View Full Version : It would be great if Farscape were renewed, but what if . . .
haesan
05-19-2003, 08:49 PM
I REALLY want to see Farscape continued. I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY do. BUT, there's been talk in the past of a 13-episode fifth season or -- horror of horrors -- a mini-series to finish the story. I DO NOT WANT THIS. Farscape's fourth season was written and filmed with the expectation of a fifth season, not a miniseries or half-season. I do not want to see any continuation of Farscape that does not follow the original outline that the writers had at the time of the cancellation. Share your thoughts above. (By the way, let's forget a Farscape anime and a feature film for now. I think it's almost a given that either one of those would be some sort of "altered universe" deal or -- in the case of a movie -- serve as a "lost episode" from a previous season.)
Also, kelley brought to my attention that a mini-series could be as long as eight hours and have no commercials (on showtime, for instance) making it roughly equal to a half-season of normal TV. If you would be okay with THAT kind of mini-series, vote on the half-season option. When I said "mini-series," though, I meant a six-hour mini-series with commercials. (The real question the poll is asking is "how much could you stand to see Farscape squished? . . . to one half its planned length or to a third?")
KellEy.. "red"
05-19-2003, 08:59 PM
well.. what about this?? say showtime (i'm kinda stuck on them atm) says, "okay we'll buy farscape".. then instead of running a 5th season, they run something like a mini-series event.. say 4 2-hour movies to tie up the show?... because, on showtime, there wouldn't be any commercials, so we would get the equivalent of close to a half of a season... personally, i think i could handle something like that.. :)
waltersgirl
05-19-2003, 09:00 PM
depending on what's happening behind the scenes, we may very well have to accept an initial something like what you propose. we *must* be open to whatever will help get us a fifth season of Farscape.
haesan
05-19-2003, 09:01 PM
Well, in my opinion, you should just vote on the half-season option in that case. I was thinking of a more "mini" miniseries, something like six hours with commercials. (I'm about to update my poll to include something about that.) If I were you, I'd just vote on the half-season option. That's sort of what you're saying: "I could stand if the story were squished by half."
haesan
05-19-2003, 09:07 PM
But that's my point, waltersgirl: that WOULDN'T be a fifth season. I, for one, would prefer no Farscape at all to something like that.
RescueFarscape
05-19-2003, 09:17 PM
I am fighting, not for myself, not for Farscape, but for our childrens' children. Who will one day look back and see that bright shining star in the miasma of reality television, and they shalt know that THIS is Farscape:D
And, uh a season five would be cool...or a movie...mini-series? Hey! You know, DK, Brian, et al, if Farscape is just too expensive to produce, you can always send me the season five scripts. I've got a fan-frelling-tastic imagination:ewink:
season five scripts and a comfy chair...;)
haesan
05-19-2003, 09:19 PM
If a fifth season weren't possible, I think the next best thing would be the scripts. BUT, you know how the cast are always saying that a lot of Farscape is improvised? We would lose that personal touch that it gains during filming! Darnit! (Plus, we wouldn't get to see any more of The Creature Shop's marvelous creations. They were at the top of their game in season 4.)
waltersgirl
05-19-2003, 09:25 PM
you said: But that's my point, waltersgirl: that WOULDN'T be a fifth season. I, for one, would prefer no Farscape at all to something like that.
i said: we *must* be open to whatever will help get us a fifth season of Farscape.
"...will help get us a fifth season of Farscape."
if fans want to be all demandy about what they will and won't "accept", imsnho, that isn't going to help the cause. TPTB need to know they have our complete support. putting parameters on that isn't complete.
haesan
05-19-2003, 09:28 PM
I'm not suggesting that we put parameters on it, I'm just hoping we (or some of us) don't find ourselves in an "oh, frell" position where we've resurrected Farscape in a form we don't wish to see it in. This is a "what if?" post. I really don't have a solution to the problem I present, and I don't think we should change our tactics with the networks in any way . . . I'm just curious to find out if my sentiments about continuation are shared with a majority or a minority of other Scapers.
RescueFarscape
05-19-2003, 09:38 PM
I don't know that 'we' will be the ones 'resurrecting' FS. ;) Many have poured their hearts, souls, and energy into this campaign, but ultimately the decision is up to the people with the money. We just have to keep poking them with sharp sticks until they see reason:)
I walked into this with my eyes wide open, fully cognizant that nothing was guaranteed. I hope, hope, hope for a fifth, and try to help others here to work toward convincing TPTB that FS is worth it. Anything we get will bring mixed feelings with it, you know? No matter is it's the fifth season or not.
But, in the end, just call me a Farscape junkie, happy with her fix, whatever it may be (Crashfics are good). And I told myself I wasn't going to regret anything I've done here.
waltersgirl
05-19-2003, 09:46 PM
RF, amen.
I am here for the story. In whatever form it can be continued and told. That's all I want. Just tell me the story however it can be told and I'll be there.
RescueFarscape
05-20-2003, 07:09 AM
Speaking of stories, Red, how's UFO coming?:ewink::flee:
:D
Roland
05-20-2003, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Red
I am here for the story. In whatever form it can be continued and told. That's all I want. Just tell me the story however it can be told and I'll be there.
Hm... I don't know Red. 22 is such a nice even number.
And I liked the way season 4 ended. I don't want to see a rushed mini-series ending were every body dies or make little babies and live happely ever after. I want a mind frelling Farscape kind of ending. Wich in my meaning is that there is no end! :)
It's Jool time!!! :goof:
haesan
05-20-2003, 09:58 AM
Amen, Roland. (But, judging from the poll, the "under-22's" are the majority.) That may be best, though. If Farscape DOES return in a form you and I won't like, at least some people will be happy. (By the way, I can't believe no one has chosen the "I'd take a half-season, but not a mini-series" option yet.)
Wouldn't it be awful, though, if Paramount announced: "We at Paramount -- in response to rising fan interest in the series "Farscape" -- have decided to create a Farscape feature film starring Ben Affleck as John Crichton and Jennifer Garner as Aeryn Sun. The role of Rygel XVI will be filled by Danny DeVito." ;)
(Oh, and nice pic, Roland. I'm not even a Jool fan and I like it. :- )
trubador
05-20-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by haesan
... Wouldn't it be awful, though, if Paramount announced: "We at Paramount -- in response to rising fan interest in the series "Farscape" -- have decided to create a Farscape feature film starring Ben Affleck as John Crichton and Jennifer Garner as Aeryn Sun. The role of Rygel XVI will be filled by Danny DeVito."
Don't laugh... that is not that far-fetched, the way many studios think nowadays. The Producer/Director of the film "The English Patient" had to stand his ground against the stupid studio execs. The studio was insisting that the rolls of the Nurse (played by the amazingly charming Juliette Binoche) and Caravagio (played by Willem Dafoe), be instead played by Demi Moore and Danny DeVito.
Thank goodness Anthony Menghella stood his ground!
haesan
05-20-2003, 10:30 AM
Never seen the movie, but amen to directors doing what they frelling want to do in their OWN movies. Nothing good can come of one person messing around with someone else's vision.
palascaper
05-20-2003, 11:38 AM
What would be even worse than that is if none of the FS writers were involved in a returning FS.
Although the collaberative effort on FS made it the great show it was, one of the most important aspects was the quality of the writers: Justin Monjo, DK, Manning, Matt Ford. etc Those scripts were always outstanding. Some of the new writers, IMHO, never really understood the characters or FS. And you could tell.
It would be a massive, expensive undertaking to bring back the actors, writers, producers, from around the world to make Farscape the unique show it was. Anything less wouldn't be FS. It wouldn't matter to me whether or not it was a full season, a mini series or a movie. Just so the actors, directions, writers, producers etc were all involved.
Selena
05-20-2003, 11:44 AM
I'm being purely selfish!
I would like not just a 5th but a 6th season of Farscape. Plus, I'd like to see Ben, Claudia and the others on the BIG screen too! And it would have to be the GENUINE article no substitutes would do!
I do not completely buy David Kemper's shtick about a movie being too hard to sell to the general public. Fans are crying out for good science fiction films and Farscape definitely falls into that category. With the right story, the brilliance of the talented cast and the Henson creatures and the continuing excellence we've had from the crew that produced the series so far, it would be a very family oriented show at a PG-13 rating and would make a mint ... way beyond what it would cost to film and promote.
Farscape's entire premise has been about stimulating, gut wrenching, tear jerking quality entertainment. That alone is enough to sell the product. I truly believe that the Henson's have completely underestimated the attraction and the power of their product. Farscape is thoroughly compelling and a potential goldmine. The fans have shown Henson just how marketable their product is over the last 8 months, and I believe he's been surprised out of his socks by it. The show Farscape is eminently marketable to a wide audience - from children to seniors.
IMO Farscape has greater potential than The Matrix: Reloaded which was released with an R-rating. Last week-end for example that movie netted over $90M and people at this site are griping about how they didn't like it for one reason or another, yet they went to see it, and some are saying they will go see it again.
Darth Buddha
05-20-2003, 12:46 PM
Let's face it, most people will settle for what they can get here... I voted for whatever form, period.
I sure as hell would PREFER a whole season... but I suspect that at this point, if anybody goes to the effort of aquiring the property, starting production up, rebuilding sets, contracting actors, etc., wouldn't it make more sense to do a whole season, or more?
The RE-start-up costs have got to be pretty damned high, when you have to rebuild sets, resign actors for a short gig, and start if not from scratch, then at least with a lot less than if you'd gone directly from Season 4 into "miniseries" or "half season" mode.
Moreover, it seems to me this is a property that only makes sense if you are going to push it, and market it aggressively. A half season or mini-series would be a "placate and market to the existing fan base" approach.
But if somebody could handle right and turn into the next "Star Trek" franchise, or at least a long runner like "Stargate". If Showtime were to buy it, for example, they might be looking to replace the hole left by Stargate that wasn't successfully filled by Odyssey 5 and the other one (Jeremiah? I don't get Showtime -- and probably won't unless/until they pick up Farsape).
My personal favorite would still be for Viacom to buy it (yes, I know Showtime is Viacom) and put the reruns on Spike or even Sci-fi if they purchase it, along with their Trek re-runs for cross fan generation. I know a lot of fans of DS9, TNG, etc., who just a haven't seen it yet -- but could probably be hooked if Farscape reruns followed reruns of either.
But if you are going to try to grow the fan base, then the half season or miniseries approach makes little sense.
Somebody has got to see that potential. I mean, we are out gaining fans on DVD's and Midnight Reruns... that's gotta say there's potential for growing the fan base.
haesan
05-20-2003, 03:18 PM
Selena, I disagree. I think a Farscape feature-film would be a dice roll. Sometimes things like that succeed, and sometimes they don't, and I think it has nothing whatsoever to do with their quality. (I don't think most people know what good, quality entertainment is.) Plus, a lot of people don't even READ reviews of movies before they go to see them. How else are they supposed to find out that a totally unfamiliar franchise is unbelievably good? (Word of mouth would probably need a few more mouths to make a sizeable impression.)
I remember a movie from a while back called "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within." It was totally computer-animated, and the animation was VERY good. Plus, the movie was spun off of an incredibly successful video game franchise. The plot of the movie wasn't that great, really, but the animation was pretty, and it had some great action. Theoretically, with an existing fan base and eye candy, it should have been a modest success.
It failed MISERABLY. Theaters dropped it after one or two weeks. No one could see it. After that, of course, advertisers stopped promoting it. It was on and off the radar within two weeks, and made something like 30 million dollars (and it cost something like 140). Things like that can happen. I'm not saying they would, I'm just saying that audiences are fickle.
By the way, I'd be the first one to dance happily if a Farscape feature film DID come to pass, I'm just the kind of person who likes to think about negative "what if"s . . . That aside, though, here's hoping! :aok:
trubador
05-20-2003, 03:21 PM
Personally, I'd prefer a full Season 5 & 6 (minimum), the entire series in syndication on UPN, Fox or WB to gain a wider audience, and at least TWO Farscape motion pictures with the original actors.
SEE... I'M EASY TO PLEASE!!! :D
Farsight
05-20-2003, 03:34 PM
As long as the crew is the same and the budget-per-hour is similar, I'd be happy with whatever length Henson finds satisfactory to tell the story.
Selling a Farscape movie to the public isn't the hardest part. You first have to sell it to investors, as there's no way Henson could fund a full theatrical movie on their own. Increasing public awareness of the show, getting good syndication ratings, those things are what will make an investor more likely to drop a check on to the project. :)
I would, of course, prefer a full season. However, I know that TPTB will tell the story the best way they are able. I don't believe a mini-series would be rushed - nor do I believe that it would be the end of the story. I think we'll see multiple Farscape projects. Saying "we only want this" may limit your enjoyment of what will be offered.
Originally posted by RescueFarscape
Speaking of stories, Red, how's UFO coming?:ewink::flee:
:D
:P it's coming, it's coming. Have you read Figment (http://www.wdsection.com/redsplace/library/figment.html) ? :lol
DangerWillRobinson
05-20-2003, 05:45 PM
I hate "to be continued". All I want is the story to be told and finished, and if TPTB see fit for a more Farscape, then that is icing on the cake.
DWR
haesan
05-20-2003, 07:09 PM
DangerWillRobinson said:
"I hate "to be continued". All I want is the story to be told and finished, and if TPTB see fit for a more Farscape, then that is icing on the cake."
. . . So you would want them to tie up at least one season's worth of story into a tidy, little ending in the length of a mini-series . . . and then, if the show were popular, to somehow start it up again after they'd ended all the storylines prematurely during the miniseries? What good would that be? The only thing worse than a cancelled show with story left to tell, would be a show with no story that's still being made. I'd rather see Farscape die at the top of its game than see a decrease in quality. I want it to KEEP winning Saturn Awards, right up to the end of its life. :cool:
waltersgirl
05-20-2003, 08:46 PM
I'd rather see Farscape die at the top of its game than see a decrease in quality.
forgive me for being blunt, but...then what are you doing here? this campaign is to bring the show back on television. there is inherent risk in that. i am not devoting the time and energy to a show that i love because i am unaware of that risk.
haesan
05-20-2003, 09:36 PM
waltersgirl, of course, I'm here because I love Farscape and I want more! But, it seems that my speculations on the "infinite possibilities" that exist for Farscape is rubbing some of you the wrong way. I really don't understand that.
"I'm getting a really bad bibe." I feel unwelcome, as though my comments are found distasteful. This IS a forum. I'm just discussing the "inherent risk" that you mentioned being aware of. We are all aware of it, but some of us like to talk about it.
In my last post, I was just trying to point out something some people may not have thought of: that something as elaborate as Farscape can't be wrapped up like a gift and subsequently reopened, at least not without sacrificing that feeling you got when you first opened it on Christmas morning.
waltersgirl
05-20-2003, 10:00 PM
in any discussion, there will be people who agree with a position and people who don't. that is the nature of a discussion.
my confusion lies in your rather blanket position of all or nothing. Farscape the way you specifically want it or no Farscape at all.
nothing works that way, least of all television. there will be fans who like a show in all its aspects, fans who don't, fans who like most and fans who like some. nature of the beast.
this campaign is here to bring about a fifth season of Farscape as its penultimate goal. we recognize, however, that to achieve that goal, Henson et al may have to take some baby steps along the way to convince those who lack faith that Farscape is worth their money. those baby steps may include a mow or a mini-series. the storylines would, of necessity, require a degree of self-containment. to discount such steps would be to discount a possible avenue for the return of Farscape to television in its fifth season where it can tell the rest of the story.
haesan
05-21-2003, 12:36 AM
"In any discussion, there will be people who agree with a position and people who don't. that is the nature of a discussion."
Right. My position is that I want to see Farscape as close to the way it would have been if it hadn't been cancelled last September. On everything else in your post, I don't disagree, and I don't want to stretch this out any longer. I don't think either of us wants or wanted this to turn into an almost-argument. This is the last I'll speak of it.
waltersgirl
05-21-2003, 01:08 AM
My position is that I want to see Farscape as close to the way it would have been if it hadn't been cancelled last September.
absolutely. however, what i've been trying to say is that we may not get that right off the bat. we may, we may not. we need to be open to whatever will bring about the fifth season as DK and Co meant to tell it.
AgentSun
05-21-2003, 01:13 PM
i want farscape, but i also understand that actors have to work too, and we can't expect them to drop everything on the speculation that their next paycheck will come from Network X who may or may not want to buy farscape.
i want farscape, but not if it's forced. i don't want it back just because the fans wanted it. the actors and writers themselves have to invest in the project before it becomes believable to others. it's the love of farscape that made it what it is.
waltersgirl
05-22-2003, 01:09 AM
if the cast and crew didn't want it back then they wouldn't have told us to fight. that's why we're here.
haesan
05-22-2003, 08:24 PM
Amen to that.
This is for you, Ben, Claudia, Gigi, Anthony, DK, Ricky, Rockne, Lani, Paul, Brian, Wayne, David, and even you, Virginia!!!
Ancient
05-24-2003, 10:32 PM
Are ya joking? The cast and crew were outraged at the shabby treatment of skiffy, and worked hard toward reversing the decision in the last months. They took pics of the sets for easy recreation because they knew it wasn't over.
Even now they do what they can when they can to drum up support, appearing at conventions and yes, even dropping by here and the booths to keep our hopes up.
Whataya need, a blood oath from them? :poke: Chill, man. I figure Farscape has another 2-3 years of episodes left at a minimum just to finish the current storylines.
The scarran/peacekeeper/earth war :wb:
Raising J&A's child :hi:
Jothi's Return :eh:
The Rise and fall of Grayza :smash:
the goal of the Ancients :critter:
Scorpius' revenge! :evil:
I am personally looking forward to another 6 years of Farscape. Hey if Married with Children and All in The Family can stay on so long, a quality show like farscape has rosy future IMO.
RescueFarscape
05-25-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Ancient
They took pics of the sets for easy recreation because they knew it wasn't over.
I believe they have blueprints for everything.
oorat
05-25-2003, 01:34 PM
yeah, they doctumented everything about the sets so they could rebuild them. now haeson, waltersgirl, you both have points, good points. i dont think we have much to worry about when farscape makes it return in what ever form it takes that a studio like paramount will destroy it. henson owns farscape. brian henson loves farscape. it is his baby. he wants it to succeed, he made the show the way he wanted to make the show with the people he wanted to make it with. there fore when it returns im sure that they will try and bring back as many of the hands and minds that made it such a wonderful show as they can. so what if we get a smaller version of the story that was gonna be told. do we even know what they were going to tell us? john and aeryns rescue is the only major plotline other then grayza's revenge, the scarren's revenge, and what how ever scorpy becomes a good guy. so what if we got a mini series version. a full season doesnt deal with the main plotlines of the season in every episode. some eps are there has filler, and cool stories and good stories to be told. lets say that they just presented us the eps that just had the main plot point moments in a mini series format. sure, we might miss gems like, scratch and sniff, or crackers dont matter, but we still get the main parts of the story. some people seem to have a problem with this and if they can have it all, then they dont want it. welcome to life. you dont always get everything you want. you need to be happy with what you get. farscape was cancelled. they cancelled the only show i watch on tv regularly. ive got the action figures, the dvd's.the magazines. im working on a johns pk outfit for holloween.i watch the reruns. i love the show. part of my enchantment is that i am very much crichton. a few of my friends call me crichton for the simple reason that that is exactly how i act. ive been this way before i ever watched the show, then i saw. was compared to it. accused of emulating. im very much attached to this show. has long has people who understood farscape, love farscape, make farscape are the ones creating the future of farscape in what ever form it takes i will be happy. if they give it off to the director or batman and robin and peacekeeper uniforms get nipples and codpieces, and ahnold takes over the role of dargo ill hate it. as long has henson owns it, and they bring back to the people who helped make it, and has much of the cast as they can get to return to it, i will be happy. sure i wont see the storylines i want to see, like dealing with the nebari resistance or the pathfinders, ill be happy that it is true to farscape. like lord of the rings, the movie was great, was it word for word what tolkien wrote, no it wasnt, but it was true to the spirit of the work. just like spiderman, xmen, has long as the people making it love the show, and are true to its spirit, what ever form it comes back in will be enjoyable to watch.
Roland
05-26-2003, 01:44 PM
:hi: there oorat! Like your posts, but how about splitting them up in paragraphs. (is that the right word?)
grapeshot
05-26-2003, 02:23 PM
You know, this discussion reminds me of the discussions that happened when the fourth season began. Many fans were upset over what they thought was a drop-off in quality. The way that some of them whined, you'd have thought that they were never gonna watch this show again. Personally, although I could understand some of their complaints, I still enjoyed those episodes. I always had faith that Rockne, DK, and Ricky and the rest of the production cast and crew would not let us down, and you know what? They didn't. Season 4 had some of the best episodes of all. As long as Rockne, DK, and Ricky have anything to do with whatever form FS comes back in, we won't be disappointed. I will welcome any morsel that we get.
oorat
05-26-2003, 03:18 PM
sorry roland, ill try and work on that paragraph thing.:grabbounc
kymom5613
05-26-2003, 03:38 PM
I'm ready for anything that they are ready to hand out that's FS. I couldn't give a fig less what incarnation, and I agree, the actors, the producers, writers, creators of all that we adore in this TV show have stated unequivocally that they want it back as well. I for one, will keep on hoping and keep on thinking of the story. This will be continued, it's just a matter of when. Like Zhaan said, "Time & Patience" are the answers to almost everything.
That being said, I'm now gonna go and watch some more of the Season 2 DVDs I just bought from BestBuy!!!!
(I just love spending hubby's money! LOL)
oorat
05-26-2003, 05:05 PM
something else i thought of. we cant really complain if we get a shorter version of farscape. season 4 and 5 storyline was thought up when they knew there would be a 5 season. so they plotted out their ideas accordingly. that is one reason why they took so much time bringing the characters back in season 4, and the other is sci fi wanted them to reintroduce the show to fans, so newbies could follow along more easily.
so we were fortunate to get a part of what couldve been a rather epic storyline, much like the harvey nueral chip worm hole tech story line from season two and three. and another thing, kemper stated that dont preplan anything except the major plot points of where they intend to end. then they work ep to ep. and the story evolves into what it becomes. come guys, chiana wasnt originally going to be a cast member. she was supposed to die in the first ep she was in. they liked her so much they kept her.
same with scorpius, they didnt know when they created him for those eps that he would become the greatest farscape adversary. matter of fact, the original idea for him was has a puppet that was crais' second in command on his command carrier. kemper has stated when he came on board and took the reigns of farscape he knew where he wanted to end the series. he didnt have the journey preplanned. he just knew where he wanted to end up.
the thing we need to remember is that farscape doesnt tell generic stories with generic characters like most tv. it takes generic stories and generic characters and gives them real life. i forget who said it, but it was in reference to eat me and meltdown, they dont tell a story with the farscape cast in it, they tell the story the farscape way.
so in closing, i say that no matter the form, if we get a little less farscape to end the cliffhanger ending of season 4. and to tell us some of what they wanted to tell us, and reach the end they wanted to end with, so what. less time to tell a story doesnt make the story less good. it just means you have to tell the story a little different than if you had more time to elaborate or add in extra stuff. you cut the fluff or the fat and keep the meat, go without the frills. sometimes you have to.
RescueFarscape
05-27-2003, 09:58 AM
Very nice paragraphs, oorat:ewink:
:D
oorat
05-27-2003, 10:51 AM
why thank you rescue.:aok: :evil2:
Darth Buddha
05-27-2003, 10:55 AM
Well put oorat.
You are a bit of a philospher between acting gigs, aren't ya?
oorat
05-27-2003, 10:56 AM
i try:smokin: sides, i got to remain hopefull, i want a job on farscape darn it. and theres only one way thats gonna happen.:D
waltersgirl
05-28-2003, 04:23 AM
you try smoking both sides? :spin:
oorat
05-28-2003, 05:46 AM
yes, yes i do. its not as easy as you think
:lizard:
Gaussian
05-29-2003, 10:52 AM
I may want what I want.............but I'll take what I can get!!!!! :)
Asylum1812
05-30-2003, 03:09 AM
The way farscape ended makes it very difficult to continue.
I cant help thinking that resurrecting the show might involve some plotline that borders dangerously close to the absurd or cheesy.
For those who saw the end of season four, how do you come back from THAT!!! The ending was both beautiful and amazingly tragic. And tragically, that particular finale may have cut short the future of farscape, or at least the farscape that we know and love. I dont want to see farscape, which epitomises what great sci-fi can, and should be; descend into the realms of the tacky low-budget dren that is churned out by unimaginative people who only think about money. And NOT producing a rollercoaster ride that takes the imagination on a lightspeed, corkscrewing, loop-the-loop, loop, looping frelling fantastic ride!
In short, to bring back farscape, and to preserve its plotlines, characters, and all-round brilliance, WILL TAKE A LEVEL OF CREATIVITY AND IMAGINATION BORDERING ON THE MIRACULOUS!
I know there will be many who disagree with me. But I love farscape and i'd rather remember the great moments then see it brought back as a shadow of its former self.
The road ahead is perilous indeed, with many pitfalls for farscape to overcome. It may suffer greatly and still continue, but will it ever be the same again?
oorat
05-30-2003, 06:01 AM
one thing everyone keeps forgetting when they talk about how john and aeryn are "dead". it was a the season cliffhanger not a season finale ep. it was meant to continue. they had season 5 in mind when they wrote bad timing. so any talk like "i dont see how they can come back from that" is frivolous because they were going to come back from it. how were they going to do this, who knows. but they were. just like aeryns death in season 2, or john and dargo floating in space with aeryn unable to rescue them at the end of season 1. or the crew leaving and going their seperate ways and then moya being pulled down a wormhole and john floating, low on gas, in space.
but thats the thing about farscape, they always come up with great and original stuff. i dont think we have to worry about farscape becoming crap when it comes back because its not being sold to someone who doesnt get it. henson is keeping it, brian henson love it, and he's gonna see to it that it keeps its quality. thats the reason they made it in the first place, to show off their special effects dept. and make a quality show to show they can.
taechunsa
05-30-2003, 06:01 AM
I will take more Farscape anyway that I can. I have a lot of faith in the creative team behind the show and their ability to maintain the original’s quality despite the length of any future endeavors. I also have a good idea, as do others, that the ending of the series was not actually the death of our two star-crossed (cheesy cliché) lovers.
I think of it this way. Would I have liked Farscape if it had originally been only a mini-series or a movie? Yes, I think that I would have. Therefore, I am positive that I will at least enjoy the same excellent story and programming that the series offered no matter what format is decided upon in the future.
ScaperTeen
05-30-2003, 11:54 AM
i just really want farscape back!!!!!! i need new episodes..............it's driving me insane to see no new episodes.......... i need FARSCAPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please, i want my show back!
Morgan
05-31-2003, 01:38 AM
I want the full 22 episode Season 5, but I'll take a half-season or a mini-series.
I just feel that the Farscape story is too big to fit into a mini-series. All those threads that need to be drawn together, explanations that need to be given and problems that need to be resolved just could not be done justice in less than 10 hours.
However, like many people here, almost any amount of Farscape is better than nothing.
oorat
05-31-2003, 07:19 AM
what if we got a miniseries that showed the rescue of john and aeryn and something to deal with the scarrens and then left it at that for a miniseries. with the ending just being that they are still out there adventuring. and that could set up future mini series, tv movies, or feature films. they dont have to cram the full story of season 5 into a mini series. look at rockne's short story in the last farscape mag. they had tons of adventures for years. all a mini series needs to do is give us some closure with john and aeryn and let them finally go off together to adventure some more has husband and wife.
from there other stories could be told. honestly, i dont think we're going to get a season 5. unless someone picks it up now, and continues it, there is slim chances that in 2 years someone will go, lets finally do season 5. and then one or maybe 2 giving us a 6th season and then ending it.
stories can be re written to fit a different length of time. we should be open to this. like i said earlier, a mini series would just be the seasons main plot lines with out the extra eps like scratch and sniff, john quixote, green eyed monster, and other similar eps that didnt deal with the main season plot points. sure, i would hate to lose any of those eps.
but i see it like this, brian henson wants to continue farscape, he sees the show has a flagship of sorts for the creature shop and henson. so we wont just get a few eps to end the story and then no more. the to be continued will be concluded. and then from there, its where ever they decide to take us for a ride.
Strj500
06-05-2003, 02:38 PM
I would like more farscape almost anyway can get it, i wouldn't mind a mini-series, half season or even series of books(being my least favorite choice), but i still would prefer a full fifth season.
wrinkledust
11-29-2003, 08:21 PM
May one vote "none of the above?"
Do I want a 5th season? YES! Then 6, 7... then FarScape: The Next Generation... then Wormholes Revisited... then _______(you fill in the blank)
For the genre I love, I want this level of excellence for at least the next 20 years!
Will I take a mini-series? You bet!
waltersgirl
11-29-2003, 09:17 PM
:lol
welcome to the board.
harveywhispers
11-29-2003, 09:25 PM
Welcome wrinkledust!
Judith
11-30-2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by wrinkledust
May one vote "none of the above?"
Do I want a 5th season? YES! Then 6, 7... then FarScape: The Next Generation... then Wormholes Revisited... then _______(you fill in the blank)
For the genre I love, I want this level of excellence for at least the next 20 years!
Will I take a mini-series? You bet!
Welcome, wrinkledust.
Does your moniker mean that you are a Noranti fan?
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