crackers don't matter

[aeryns_newbe]

now this one is a consistancy error or I didn't follow the plot correctly. (Most likely the latter) I thought it was already settled that the light wasn't the thing affecting the crew, (it was t'raltxx) but then they send Crichton into the room because he has "defective" vision and he won't be affected as much. And chiana says the reason Crichton wasn't affected as much is because he can't see as well as all of them.

That probably didn't make any sense at all. oh, well...

[Frunium Slip]

Why oh why can't someone come up with an easy question...



Some potential spoilers...










OK, Crichton does have deficient vision compared to the other guests on Moya. However, he attempts to take on T'raltixx because he's the only one vaguely holding it together. It is Crichton that figures out it's not the light affecting them, deducting this from Pilot acting strangely, and Pilot couldn't see the Pulsars. Now whether this is completely true or not one can't say, as Pilot may have been affected through Moya.

Seems poor old John was the only one to see T'raltixx as the villian, all the others were just fighting among themselves. It was interesting that the defective one manages to corral the rest of the crew. Of course the rest of the crew still view Crichton as deficient.

[luxan general]

It is weird though. If T'raltixx was the thing affecting the crew, then why wasn't T'raltixx affecting Crichton as much. As they said, he was vaguely keeping it together, but if he is the defficient one, as humans would be, then why is T'raltixx not affecting Crichton as much as the others.

I guess it could be because T'raltixx doen't feel as threatened from Crichton but still, It just makes me think.

[grapeshot]

well, this is also the first episode that Harvey appears, and one of Harvey's missions is to "protect" John. Of course, if you're watching these shows for the first time, and in the proper order, you wouldn't know about Harvey or his mission until much later. (Remember "A Clockwork Nebari"??)

[Patrel Rushlock]

Originally posted by grapeshot
well, this is also the first episode that Harvey appears, and one of Harvey's missions is to "protect" John. Of course, if you're watching these shows for the first time, and in the proper order, you wouldn't know about Harvey or his mission until much later. (Remember "A Clockwork Nebari"??)

I'd have to agree with this explaination. It was probably due to Harvey.

[JRC]

I agree with the Harvey suggestion because it's him who also helps John in "A Clockwork Nebari" when he is apparently mind clensed ue to those temporary eye things.

[Farscapegoat]

It could also be that it was the pulsar light directly effecting the crew. With T'raltixx doing all that lighting business inside Moya maybe it was what he was doing with the light with Pilot's help that was causing the crazies :goof:

[Trip]

If you watch the episode again, you'll hear them mention that Moya is being affected by the light, and Pilot is connected to Moya.

John's vision "deficiency" is part of what keeps him together, but as someone mentioned above, Harvey is also "helping" him out to further not only his (Harvey's) own survival, but also because at this point he still needs to get the wormhole information from John's brain for Scorpius. Kind of hard to ensure either of those things if John is dead.

[ScorpSik]

Sorry to be a Scorpy pedant... but it wasn't Harvey. This first sighting *was* hallucination. Not Harvey.
As for John being the only one holding it together.... well I didn't see anyone else shooting a comrade (D'Argo), or sexually assaulting a comrade (Chiana)....

[Psychochick]

I find i can explain John's resistance because he's Human. After all no-one in UT space has come across Humans before so certain weapons, mind-controlling techniques,and such might not effect him in the same way. There are little things we can pull apart in most of the eps but if you persevere MOST things will become clear in the end. If not who cares its the best show around for sci-fi buffs so just sit back,relax & enjoy:cloud9:

[CookieCat]

John did NOT sexually assault Chiana. He threatened to after being urged on by the hallucination Scorpy, but in the end, all he did was knock her unconscious. (Not that that action was particularly admirable, either.)

[Kaiwaz]

The answer to this question is this: yes, it's not the light, it's T'raltixx. BUT, the rest of the crew in their "altered state" could not accept that Crichton was the only one "vaguely" keeping it together. Chiana says that it's the eye thing because it sort of saves the rest of the crews pride by providing an alternate explanation in which Crichton is still inferior.

That said, Crichton did have the worst eyes...

[NeuralClone]

Originally posted by ScorpSik
Sorry to be a Scorpy pedant... but it wasn't Harvey. This first sighting *was* hallucination. Not Harvey.
As for John being the only one holding it together.... well I didn't see anyone else shooting a comrade (D'Argo), or sexually assaulting a comrade (Chiana)....

Ah now, Scorpsik, that isn't canon - that's just speculation!

My own theory is that the craziness affected the neural clone, just like it affected everyone else, and it forced it out of hiding prematurely. Maybe it was even the point where "Harvey" had his genesis as a separate being apart from the neural chip!

[NebariNookiee]

The “Harvey” topic of CDM has been a heavy discussion point amongst my fellow Converts. And after such a long time debating the point we came to a conclusion –

Harvey was helping John by purposely distracting him. Everyone else in the crew had turned their rage towards each other. Yet John was too busy dealing with his supposed hallucinations – Part of Harvey’s programming was to keep Crichton safe – and knowing full well that without some type of interference, John would have gone over the deep end and would have tried to kill his shipmates and would have gotten himself killed in the process. With Harvey making his first appearance, John understands that something is terribly wrong and refuses to give in to it.

[kazsy]

Interesting perspectives on this episode. I always got that it wasn't the light affecting them, but T'raltixx. However, T'raltixx was still affecting them through their optic nerves, thus John, being deficient, wasn't affected as much. Was he a shining example of sanity, no, but he was the only one who occasionally stopped and said, "What the hell are we doing?". Don't forget that Zhann said she was more affected when she was near T'raltixx as opposed to being in the light. I also agree that Harvey was not necessarily helping in this episode, but was probably affected by the light as well - telling John to save Chiana for later and to shoot Aeryn are not good examples of lending a helping hand. So, that's my take and I apologize for any incorrect uses of the words affect and effect - never could get those straight.

More importantly, while at http://starburstcards.com/KarlswebCommercePlanet/Other-01.htm, I found a link to http://www.mambo.com.au/supermarket/, an Australian shop that sells the Hawaiian shirt Harvey is wearing in this episode (Click the Loud Shirts link). The name of the shirt is "Lost Weekend" and its 95 Aussy dollars plus 28 Aussy dollars s/h for US shipment. Not cheap, but well worth it. I got one for my husband, who, after watching the Crackers don't Matter episode, manages to work the phrase "Margarita Shooters" into every other sentence.