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VBKatLou
06-21-2003, 06:06 AM
Snurched this off the dom. Here's the link:

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030620-020308-5731r

Interview: Sci Fi -- the future is now

Published 6/20/2003 2:51 PM
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NEWTON, N.J., June 20 (UPI) -- Are you a science fiction fan?

Not so fast. Take a moment and think about it because you probably are and don't even realize it. Since technology is part of most of our daily lives, and the future is, in a sense, now, the definition of "science fiction" is broadening, as is the genre's audience.

"Whether it's 'The Matrix,' 'Harry Potter,' 'The Lord of the Rings,' or 'The Sixth Sense,' (the growing popularity of the genre is) amazing," Sci Fi Channel President Bonnie Hammer, told United Press International in a recent telephone interview. "People weren't aware they liked the genre because they themselves defined the genre in an unfair way. It was like the perception of liking sci fi wasn't cool or wasn't right, but if you look at big box-office wins, millions of people are attracted to it. They just wouldn't necessarily define themselves as sci-fi fans because their own definitions were limited."

Technology is evolving so rapidly and embraced by so many people, Hammer noted, that it is no longer reserved for that small segment of the population that once spent considerable time considering what conveniences and miracles the future would hold, what happens after we die and if there is, in fact, life on other planets.

"I think the audience for sci fi is different now than when we grew up," Hammer remarked. "But now in many ways the population is very different because they don't necessarily care about the things we used to care about because the future is now, and technology to a lot of the new younger viewers is just another day in the office, and space operas or futuristic series isn't what they want. They just want a different twist on the here and now."

A glimpse at this summer's slate of Hollywood offerings reveals a variety of feature films and projected blockbusters with sci-fi elements: "The Hulk," "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen," "Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life," "Pirates of the Caribbean" and "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines," just to name a few. Television is also home to more than a dozen series featuring action, horror, magic, technology, creatures or some blend of those characteristics, among them: "Andromeda," "Alias," "Angel," "Charmed," "Beyond Re-Animator," "Futurama," "John Doe," "Smallville," "Stargate: SG-1," "Threshold," "Tremors: The Series," "The Twilight Zone" and "Veritas: The Quest."

Asked to explain the one quality that ties together all of these different types of stories, Hammer refers to the Sci Fi Channel's marketing campaign, in which the "i" in "Sci" and the "F" in "Fi," pop out at viewers, challenging them to wonder, "what if?"

"All the possibilities that exist, which live in our imagination (make up science fiction,)" Hammer explained. "That's what really makes the genre amazingly broad and wonderful... One thing that is wonderful about the genre is that it is thought provoking. It allows you to use your mind and your imagination. Everything is not spelled out. It's not like simple action adventure where you know what's going to happen and everything is derivative. It's right in front of you on the screen. There are no surprises. In science fiction, you're left with the 'what if?'"

She added: "I think that's why you can watch and re-watch (sci-fi films and television programs.) I can't even tell you how many times I've watched the original 'Matrix,' and I still have questions. I loved it, but I'm still trying to figure it out in a lot of ways."

While many of the major networks seem more concerned with ratings and budgets than creative, intelligent storytelling, Hammer said the Sci Fi Channel remains dedicated to bringing "fabulous fiction ... steeped in our myths and our lore" to television.

"We've become known for our mini-series events," Hammer said. "We know that a good portion of the sci-fi audience loves literature. Loves reading. Loves great storytelling and great characters, so we know that we can do quality programming and people will come and see it."

Noting that last year's 20-hour mini-series, "Taken," directed by Steven Spielberg, broke viewership records and introduced a whole new audience to the channel, Hammer said her team's commitment to provocative programming and creative marketing are also attracting major-league players, such as "X-Men" filmmaker Bryan Singer and Oscar-winning actresses Whoopi Goldberg and Susan Sarandon.

"A couple of years ago, we had great ambition, but we couldn't necessarily get the talent we wanted to buy in because they said: 'Oh, yeah. They've been doing some nice stuff, but it's just a little cabler.' Now, what's happening is people are calling us, and if they're not calling us, when we call, they pick up our calls on the first ring."

The Sci Fi Channel is currently reinventing the landmark science fiction series "Battlestar Galactica; recently closed a deal to make Ursula Le Guin's "The Left Hand of Darkness" into a four-hour original mini-series; and secured producer Gale Anne Hurd ("The Hulk," "Terminator 3") to executive produce the six-hour mini-series, "Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars."

Copyright © 2001-2003 United Press International

Roland
06-21-2003, 06:11 AM
quote:
While many of the major networks seem more concerned with ratings and budgets than creative, intelligent storytelling, Hammer said the Sci Fi Channel remains dedicated to bringing "fabulous fiction ... steeped in our myths and our lore" to television. end quote.

WHAT!!!!
:mad:

What a piece of frellin' lies. Now I'm really pissed.

How the frell can she spit out thoose things!!!

Roland
06-21-2003, 06:14 AM
They killed Farscape for exactley thoose things:

Low ratings and High cost!

AND FARSCAPE HAD AN INTELLIGENT STORY!!! :mad:

Johnsgirl727
06-21-2003, 07:40 AM
While many of the major networks seem more concerned with ratings and budgets than creative, intelligent storytelling, Hammer said the Sci Fi Channel remains dedicated to bringing "fabulous fiction ... steeped in our myths and our lore" to television.
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Dominar of Action
06-21-2003, 08:57 AM
You know, this read very differently than other BH interviews ... seems she's been prepping a bit better these days because she didn't put her foot into it quite so badly this time. However, I am annoyed at the UPI reporter (and, for that matter, all reporters who just take whatever is dished out to them, without challenging it).

You can e-mail UPI with polite comments here: tips@upi.com

This is what I sent:

You know, "Interview: Sci Fi -- the future is now" (6/20/2003) is little more than a free advertisement for the Sci Fi Channel. Where's the reporting? Why not ask Ms. Hammer about the deep discontent genre fans currently have for her network? About the Battlestar Galactica fans who are boycotting the upcoming "reimagined" series that bears no resemblance to the original? About how, exactly, the most recent Sci Fi original series like Scare Tactics, Tremors: The Series, and The Dream Team exemplify the network's supposed dedication to bringing "fabulous fiction ... steeped in our myths and our lore" to television? And most of all, about why the network abruptly decided to cancel its only award-winning and critically acclaimed series (Farscape) despite a publicly stated and oft-repeated commitment to another season? If ever a TV show involved creative and intelligent storytelling, Farscape was it ... yet Sci Fi killed it, without even giving the producers a chance to conclude its epic story. Why?

Essentially, the Sci Fi Channel is a niche network that wants to leave its niche behind and go mainstream. Instead of trying to change the public's perception of science fiction as the exclusive domain of geeks, they are trying to change the definition of science fiction itself, which is a non-starter. Science fiction is what it is: "science" + "fiction." Ms. Hammer would like us to forget the first part of that equation.

Those of us who have been following this network's evolution away from the very genre it claims to celebrate recognize Ms. Hammer's spin when we see it. It's a shame your reporter did not.

Frunium Slip
06-21-2003, 09:04 AM
scIFi

As in IF you hadn't canceled the best show on TV you wouldn't have to be coached so much for interviews...

PS she is getting better, but she can't quite seem to not say at least something completely stupid...

Frell I wish I could write a polite letter, but I may have to take a walk first...

vhsiv
06-21-2003, 11:11 AM
There is *no* author by-line on that Article/Interview, whatever you want to call it.

It might even be an elaborate press-release, since it seems to tip-toe across many sore topics quite effesctively. Look at the 1st three paragraphs:Are you a science fiction fan?

Not so fast. Take a moment and think about it because you probably are and don't even realize it. Since technology is part of most of our daily lives, and the future is, in a sense, now, the definition of "science fiction" is broadening, as is the genre's audience.

"Whether it's 'The Matrix,' 'Harry Potter,' 'The Lord of the Rings,' or 'The Sixth Sense,' (the growing popularity of the genre is) amazing," Sci Fi Channel President Bonnie Hammer, told United Press International in a recent telephone interview. "People weren't aware they liked the genre because they themselves defined the genre in an unfair way. It was like the perception of liking sci fi wasn't cool or wasn't right, but if you look at big box-office wins, millions of people are attracted to it. They just wouldn't necessarily define themselves as sci-fi fans because their own definitions were limited." Looks like 'sales' talk to me. And who, if anybody is this article directed at, who does it serve? None other than BH and Skiffy. No Farsacpe mentions, and it includes many of the patented BH referernces we've come to know and expect - 'Harry Potter', 'The Lord of the Rings', 'The Sixth Sense' - and it presents the network in nothing other han glowing terms. I suspect it's an inside job. A Skiffy press-release to pump Wall Street as VUE goes to auction. Only this time, they haven't bothered to quote outside 'experts' and consultants.

Forget the 'apologetic' tone folks, it's an inside job.

vhsiv
06-21-2003, 11:21 AM
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Dominar of Action
06-21-2003, 01:05 PM
I agree it's a handjob (thanks, g, for that very apt term!), but I don't think it's a press release:... Sci Fi Channel President Bonnie Hammer, told United Press International in a recent telephone interview...

generic_screenname
06-21-2003, 05:14 PM
Nothing like a Bonnie Hammer interview to trigger my pent up rage and disgust. Grrrr! Hulk smash Bonnie!:smash:

Eve11
06-21-2003, 07:30 PM
"We've become known for our miniseries events"...

Bonnie says. After six months. Six months and they're suddenly mainstream on miniseries events. RIght. She and the execs have been itching to say these words ever since Dreamworks and Steven Speilberg said, "okay, okay, we'll do Taken" however many years ago.

:headbang:

DangerWillRobinson
06-21-2003, 08:16 PM
Quote

"While many of the major networks seem more concerned with ratings and budgets than creative, intelligent storytelling, Hammer said the Sci Fi Channel remains dedicated to bringing "fabulous fiction ... steeped in our myths and our lore" to television."


What the frell is she talking about? Maybe it is Scare Tatics that falls into this category? Or maybe it is Dream Team? What frelling fiction is she talking about other then a non-miniseries show? She had "fabulous fiction" and she canned it like bad tuna.
:mad:

The dren that comes from her mouth.....Does her mother know she eats with that mouth?

palascaper
06-21-2003, 08:29 PM
Ms. Hammer doesn't have a clue what sci fi is. She never liked sci fi, right?

Who gives them the right to "redefine" sci fi? The Sci Fi channel has totally abandoned its sci fi fan base.

And, the Sci Fi channel is totally dedicated to the lowest budget cheapest thrill shows they can possibly produce, and even if their ratings for such shows as Tremors and Scare Tactics aren't that high, it doesn't matter because they haven't invested much money.

Just how many shows has Sci Fi produced and then dropped after a few eps? I don't know because I only got DISH to watch Farscape, but from what I've heard they've been thru quite a few.

Vampgrrl
06-23-2003, 01:58 PM
How long is SciFi going to continue to circle jerk themselves over Taken...
Everyone I know who watched it really didn't like it. I do think to a limit that if you advertise something enough at least to start...it you can good ratings (Tremors).


I just want to know 5 years down the road, if Bonnie will still be going, oh yeah we kicked ass with Taken...and we are proud to annoce Taken 2: Electric Boogaloo:rollin:

blueassbitch
06-23-2003, 03:45 PM
Hammer remarked. "But now in many ways the population is very different because they don't necessarily care about the things we used to care about because the future is now, and technology to a lot of the new younger viewers is just another day in the office, and space operas or futuristic series isn't what they want. They just want a different twist on the here and now."

Sorry but I don't see a site devoted to 'Save the different twist on the here & now' :grr: Maybe she is illiterate and hasn't been able to read all those letters and faxes telling her exactly what we want. :mad:
Keep talking Bonnie, I could use the motivation ;)

Dominar of Action
06-23-2003, 05:19 PM
Sorry but I don't see a site devoted to 'Save the different twist on the here & now' :spew: :lol

generic_screenname
06-23-2003, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Vampgrrl
I just want to know 5 years down the road, if Bonnie will still be going, oh yeah we kicked ass with Taken...and we are proud to annoce Taken 2: Electric Boogaloo:rollin:

I didn't see the first one, but I'd definately watch Taken 2: Electric Boogaloo.

vhsiv
06-23-2003, 05:39 PM
We try to beat her at her own game.

Why don't one of us polite and verbose-types write another response to Bonnie's nonsense, and draft letters to Entertainment Week, to TV Guide, and any other respectable, respected journal of note - Salon.com immediately comes to mind.

Frame the letter or article in terms of dissapointment and that sort of thing. House-captive Moms and Dads should have a particularly poignant tale to tell, as they can't get out of the house, like they used to, and rely on their pay-cable services more than ever. That alone should be able to topple some of the 'geek' stonewalling that we get from the major media. And then talk about Skiffy's broken promises, as if you're talking about your broken 401k plan.

Above all, don't mention this site, or our organizational powers, as it will just whet the flames of the 'geek-alert'. No planetary invasion or hostile takeover succeeded because the participants brandished their involvement in the conspiracy.

Just break out those indignant crocodile tears, and start writing those medium-profile rebuttals. If we can get at least one or two published in a national publication, we'll bbe doing something. If someone can disguise their commentary as a more general 'article' on the state of television these days, well heck, more power to you.

farscapefan4eva was off to a good start --- might I suggest an elaboration of her comments along these lines:Dear TV Guide/Reader's Digest/USA Today/Harper's, etc.:

Up until this Spring, one of the high-water marks of my home-life, was the Friday evenings I'd spend with my kids, watching Farscape.

Despite the stigmatism of it being on the SciFi channel, I found it to be a great means of blowing off the anxiety of the work-week, and sneaking some parenting in on my two boys, who generally prefer not to do things with 'Dear old Mom'.

But the Jim Henson Co. produced a show, unlike most other shows, provided both a context and a medium for me and my kids to talk about the value of friendship and family - and that, in spite of some sometimes objectionable content - but certainly nowhere as objectionable than some of the stuff that they encounter during a typical schoolday.

The SciFi channel and USA Networks and broke their promise to Farscape fans worldwide, despite Ms. Hammer's avowed dedication to 'fabulous fiction', SciFi and USA cancelled 'Farscape' because of the bottom-line: ratings, money and an inability to promote a show that would have been a hit on any other network, period. Any other broadcaster would have seen their way through to make money with this show through syndication deals and cross-promotion. But not SciFi.

Instead of the life lessons I was once able to share with my kids on Friday nights, I only have man-eating earthworms ('Tremors'), and mean-spirited practical jokes ('Scare Tactics'). I would rather leave the television off these days, rather than pollute my childrens' heads with this nonsense.

Marion Qualls
$52,000/yr.
Single mother, 2 kids
Patterson, NJ You and your 'Scaper team may choose not to accept this mission, if you wish.

This message will self-destruct in exactly ten days...

- not!Marion

gurnemanz
06-24-2003, 12:20 AM
. . . is simply stunning.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
NEWTON, N.J., June 20 (UPI) -- Are you a science fiction fan?

Not so fast. Take a moment and think about it because you probably are and don't even realize it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The implications of the question and answer, taken together, are that

1) No one likes sf
2) No one knows what sf is and isn't
3) Viewers are too stupid to have their own thoughts or know anything about that genre stuff

Happily, Bonnie is here to explain it all to us. :grr:

SciFi Execs, take heed; you are being eaten by your own illiterate progeny, who will not be happy until they have painted the entire world pissmunkle dun. Their vision is so limited that they don't imagine a future different than "more of today."

Institutionalize that ignorant self-congratulatory arrogance - it worked wonders for the Austro-Hungarians.

You could have made a difference, but all you've made of yourself is a mockery.

g.