PLEASE READ!!! Could it be true?

[RescueFarscape]

Okay, rescuefarscape, where are they going to find a theater that fits five thousand?


I don't know, I've never been to LA.:D And really Shipscat, we should be a couple more thousand by then;)

*sighs* Still, that would be really cool...Staggered screenings? A huge, 20-screen multiplex?

[RescueFarscape]

NeilGartner, hope springs eternal.:D

[EPIT]

I, for one, am glad to hear this rumor! :aok: Even if it's not official, it gives you something to think about and play with that wonderful question (sometimes): What if?

While we won't know for certain until something is released, I tend to see the mention of the feature film in the same light that MS does; perhaps a strategy?

In any case, whether it is a strategy or not, there are number of equal possibilities, the strategy possibility being but one. I'd like to think, though, that the most likely reality is that the comment was made out of a sense of appreciation for what this community has done and a desire to share that appreciation in the form of this information. :hug2:

Still, a feature film has exciting possibilities and while a number here have explored a few, I wanted to explore another one.

With movie successes like Lord of the Rings and The Matrix, who can know for sure if one production will result in one movie? We could end up with 9 hours of film spread across "three" feature films minus trimmings.

If Year of The Matrix can work, I don't see why Year of Farscape couldn't.:banana: :banana:

But then again, I'm an optimist. :cool:

The one thing we all share, though, is our faith in Henson. Whatever Henson decides to do, I have faith that I'll end up happy. :love:

Cheers,
EPIT

[Huh]

Originally posted by RescueFarscape
I don't know, I've never been to LA.:D And really Shipscat, we should be a couple more thousand by then;)

*sighs* Still, that would be really cool...Staggered screenings? A huge, 20-screen multiplex?

I will be satisfied with nothing less than an outdoor showing at the Boston Common. It can easily accommodate more than 5,000.

[Judith]

Originally posted by AnnieBW






Farscape appeals to a lot of people that don't like traditional sci-fi. That's one thing that Bonnie got wrong. And with her, Jackson, and the other doofi out of the loop, Universal can market it to death. :)



- Annie

I agree, and I would also add that Farscape appeals to a hell of a lot of people who DO like traditional Sci Fi, but DO NOT like the direction that it has been taking.

[Judith]

Originally posted by Mivonks


And, I believe the best way to introduce a 'box office drawcard star' (if we really need it!) would be as a bad guy for the film. Bad guy gets offed in the end and we have no continuity problems. :D



Do we need a 'box office drawcard' star? Would it be enough that US fans who don't watch Farscape might have already had some exposure to Claudia Black in Pitch Black and Queen of the Damned?

Don't know. Don't know how these things work.

:kitty:

[MournsZhaan]

Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
Do we need a 'box office drawcard' star? Would it be enough that US fans who don't watch Farscape might have already had some exposure to Claudia Black in Pitch Black and Queen of the Damned?

Don't know. Don't know how these things work.

:kitty:

Good question. I've seen both Patch Black and Queen of the Damned and Claudia's character was relatively unimportant in both of them. How significant having (or not having, as the case may be) a "major" star is IMHO going to be very dependent on how well a movie (should there be one) is marketed and the amount of "buzz" the industry and fans (yes, I mean us) generate.

Chris
Who, if he could predict the future, would go the local racetrack, win big and quit his job. ;)

[stellar]

Too bad that CB gets offed in both of those films. Who do I blame for having to sit through that exruciating movie, QotD, when the only reason I watched it was for CB (also the only reason I stayed past the first 90 seconds, only to catch a glimpse of her as the camera raced by because she ended up on the cutting room floor)? How's that for sentence construction?

How US casting agents don't cast her in leading roles, or in major supporting roles at least, is beyond me.

- Stellar

[AnnieBW]

Originally posted by RescueFarscape
*sighs* Still, that would be really cool...Staggered screenings? A huge, 20-screen multiplex?

We've got a theater here in the Baltimore area, Muvico Egyptian at Arundel Mills, that has about 24 screens. It can easily accomodate huge crowds, it's close to an airport (BWI), and has hotels around it, and is attached to a humongous mall. And, it has this really cool Egyptian theme, like the "Luxor" hotel in Las Vegas. We always joke that they should show the "Stargate" movie there.

Or, if it's in during the summer, I suggest the National Mall. :D We could call it the "million Scaper March"!

- Annie

[Mike@Pilots Chamber]

Hmm... just pondering how a Farscape movie could work. I believe someone in the crew of Farscape once said that, if they decided to do a movie, it'd be a retelling of the beginning of Farscape. They wouldn't just be able to pick up from where they left off - Farscape is too sequential. So basically, it'd be another beginning.

I'm just hoping that, if they do, Scorpius HAS to be in it, as the villain character. Whether he is evil or driven by his motives, Scorpius DOES make an excellent villain, more sadistic and suave, for want of a better word, than any other villain I know of (the only two that come close, to my mind, is possibly Darth Vader, and Megabyte from ReBoot).

But in any case, I believe a worldwide film release would do very well if it's advertised correctly. Frell, IGN has been harping on for ages how every episode is cinematic quality.

[Judith]

Originally posted by Mike@Pilots Chamber


I'm just hoping that, if they do, Scorpius HAS to be in it, as the villain character. Whether he is evil or driven by his motives, Scorpius DOES make an excellent villain, more sadistic and suave, for want of a better word, than any other villain I know of (the only two that come close, to my mind, is possibly Darth Vader, and Megabyte from ReBoot).



Yes, I agree. And Wayne Pygram (sp) has such PRESENCE as Scorpius...that's not the best word, but really, I can't think of any other word to describe it.

I definately think they would use him in a movie. He's just so...so....I don't know what it is. Someone say the word I am thinking of.

And OH! Wouldn't it be cool if Harvey was in the movie too?

:kitty:

[cbooth]

Why would a Farscape movie have to start from the beginning? The first Star Trek movie didn't start from scratch and neither did the X-Files movie. Granted, those particular shows have large followings, but I think that Farscape could pull it off just as well. Backgrounds for characters could easily be summed up without going into tedious detail, yet still draw the audience in.
For example:

The opening scene starts with John Crichton, sitting on a table in the Maintenance Bay. He's holding his mini tape recorder and thinking back to when it all started. John mentions each crew member and a brief description\past for each one, during which time the scene opens up on each character doing whatever on Moya. The final scene would be John talking about Moya and the scene pulls back until the Leviathan is in full view of the audience.

Something like that...but I'm no director. :)

[stellar]

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[cbooth]

Originally posted by stellar
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As has been mentioned before, a Farscape movie would probably take place in between the second and third season. This makes sense, considering that there's a lot of history you need to be aware of. I don't think that they would continue from where the fourth season left off; they would want it to be more accessible for viewers that are new to Farscape, or for those heathens that have never heard of it. ;)

If a movie is made, it will be a stand alone story.

[stellar]

I was just trolling on that whole [edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler]. To be perfectly honest with you, I be kinda PO'd if a movie didn't resolve anything from the season 4 finale.

However, that said... I'll take what I can get... I'm starting to get the shakes... 6 more days until 3.5!

[cbooth]

Heheheh...yeah, I hear ya. :D

The way I see it, the only way that the end of season four will be resolved will be through either a mini-series, or one more season. No way a movie could encompass all of that.

I don't care what format Farscape comes back as...I'm not picky. :) Beggars can't be choosers and all of that, know what I mean?;)

[divinedaydreams]

Well after spending all day reading this thread from the beginning I'd have to say... Hurray!!! Rumors even untrue ones mean interest. Interest is what we are all about and hope of course.

[witchdoctor]

I would rather have an entire 5th season, but I will be happy getting a movie, especially if it leads to more.

One thing good about Farscape coming back as a movie, would be the possibility of an extended directors cut version, with an extra hour (or three :D <---just plain old greed, that :devil: ) of deleted scenes, the same way Peter jackson did for the Lord of the Rings. Except hopefully they wouldn't wait several months to release the extended vs theatrical version.

Just my hopes for the movie anyway.

[witchdoctor]

One other thing just occured to me. If budgeting the movie is a worry, maybe they could offset some of the cost by a few product placements. All right, this was said somewhat tongue in cheek, but it does amuse me to think what kind of current products or brands might be used in a Farscape setting.

[Twich]

That sounds like a new thread idea...LOL

[B Sharp]

spoiler alert for those that haven't seen the last eps...














Originally posted by stellar
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are they? I don't remember anything about death, just...."particularization". What was it that the alien said to his boss before shooting that ray at them??

[stlscape]

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[Judith]

Originally posted by stellar
Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler.

Hey. Thanks. Now me and the rest of the people who didn't get to see Season four the first time don't have to waste all their time sheilding themselves from what that cliffhanger WAS. Boy, it was getting pretty hard too. Well, now I guess we don't have that burden anymore.

(major sarcasm)

[Judith]

It's not like the mods didn't JUST post a thread about putting in spoiler alerts or anything.

[MediaSavant]

I don't have any concern about the backstory being a problem with the movie. I can easily see the story picking up where it left off, if written properly.

Think a little movie called "Star Wars". If you recall, it started with the 4th chapter. After a brief intro, Lucas jumped right into the action--a battle scene.

Rather than confusing moviegoers, Lucas's technique drew them in. The feeling that we didn't know all that was going on, enticed us to delve into Lucas's universe. If Kemper executes the movie in a similar way, he can please us fans AND intrigue newbies at the same time.

I also wouldn't bet that any earlier ideas circulated about the movie's setting or premise--like the one about it being in between previous seasons--are still in place. If they ever were.

Farscape was a famously flexible project. O'Bannon and Kemper firmly said on many occasions that there wasn't a "five year arc" or any set arc. Kemper described his plans more as themes he wanted to address. O'Bannon said he had a vision of Crichton at the end of the story, but getting there was a flexible road for the writers.

If there were a movie, I think their key goals would be to tell a big story and a cinematic one that is accessible to fan and non-fan alike. I think they will choose the best story they can tell in two hours of film (and that is the equivalent of more than two episodes).

[harveywhispers]

I just want to reiterate two things about any possible Farscape movie:

1. It would likely be a stand-alone pre-422 piece.

2. It would make a hell of a lot of things happen which could bring
about that Season 5 WE ALL WANT!
- Sets built
- Team together
- Henson getting exposure
- Farscape getting exposure
- Time will have passed on Skiffy's rerun rights
- ALL FANS A CHANCE TO COUNT (the Nielsen rating system
sucks)!
- etc........................

*Just a note: Be kind & remember that there are folks on this &
other boards who have not seen all the eps. After
all, they are just going through their first run in Oz.
Dropping spoilers just to get a reaction isn't cool.

[MediaSavant]

Originally posted by harveywhispers
I just want to reiterate two things about any possible Farscape movie:

1. It would likely be a stand-alone pre-422 piece.



...and I reserve my right to disagree about this.

I think a post-422 piece has equal, if not greater, chance.

I believe stand alones that are squeezed into an existing story have a narrative weakness and they will see that. Did anyone ever see Babylon 5's "Thirdspace" movie? It just didn't feel right.

"Oh, this story was so important, we never mentioned it happening before." Doesn't work.

When the series was still in production, there was a reason they had to explore that idea. Now, that it's canceled, they don't have that constraint. They don't have any constraints except to tell the best damn story they can think of.

[CrystalMoon]

Personally, I think that if they made a movie it would be post-4.22. For one thing, talk about pissing off fans by not showing that J&A are alive and well. Plus, so much character development happens on the show that it would be very hard to watch a season 2 kind of episode now with J&A doing their little dance, with Chiana and D'Argo hot and heavy. We'd all know that poor John gets twinned later on and that one of the twins dies. We'd all know that Chiana betrays D'Argo. How could you get excited about watching the characers, knowing their future? All the suspense would be gone.

Farscape is way too arc-driven to do a feature set in the past. That said, they would have to write it very carefully so that new viewers wouldn't be confused or bored, but I feel confident that TPTB could do it. THey're pros. They've been thinking and working on this for years. I'm sure they considered every angle we have and about a hundred we haven't thought of.

They could even jump ahead and go beyond the point where J&A were crystallized. They'd just explain what happened to them with a brief remark, one that would satisfy fans and not confuse new viewers. Then they can move on with a new story using the characters in the time period we'd expect them to be in. Imgaine John saying to D'Argo, "Hey, at least we're not getting freeze dried this time. That was a hell of a mess ..." That sort of thing.

I feel confident TPTB could come up with a great way to move the story forward without losing character growth and backstory and still making it accessible to new viewers.

[harveywhispers]

*Contains mildish spoilers for 422 - Does not give specifics.








My apologies. I really should have prefaced part one of my two points. My mind contains no proof-positive facts as to what Henson & Crew would give us in a film. Rather, what I wrote was supposition based upon an old interview I read & some of the 2beContinued report. I felt it necessary to indicate that a movie may not immediately pick-up from the last seconds of 422. For all I know, it very well could be that Henson & crew would have the movie start at the last frame of 422. Do I think it could work? Sure. In fact, I had been giving the subject a lot of thought over the last few days. Why?

*Main Reason:

422 is the perfect spot for a movie to pick-up, as you have a situation in which the main characters could all be introduced to the audience. During the resolution of the final moments of BT, it would be fully possible to play to the character strengths of each member. An easy example could be in Sparky attempting to lie, cheat & bargain his way into helping our protagonists. Such a pick-up, laced with basic back-plot, would also appease the anxious fans amongst us. Along with giving us resolution to 422 & finding a wider audience for 'Scape, the movie could then lead us to another point at which Season 5 could begin. Face it, Henson & Crew could leave the whole lot of us screaming for more.

*Another Thought

Perhaps the mentioned "television specials" could be akin to the type made for the LOTR movies. Wouldn't it be grand to watch "Welcome To The Unchartered Territories: The Making Of Farscape"?

*The "Why wasn't it mentioned factor?"

Yeah, I was concerned about that bit too.

Let me know what you think!

[jeffrabb]

quote: Originally posted by RescueFarscape
I don't know, I've never been to LA. And really Shipscat, we should be a couple more thousand by then

*sighs* Still, that would be really cool...Staggered screenings? A huge, 20-screen multiplex?

quote: Originally posted by
Huh
I will be satisfied with nothing less than an outdoor showing at the Boston Common. It can easily accommodate more than 5,000.
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Why not an East AND West Coast showing? The Hollywood Bowl could be fun!:bgb:
As for the Midwest, doesn't Chicago have a big open park along the Lake Michagan shoreline?

Jeff
<getting very excited>:bounce:

[Twich]

Um...guys..in the interest of not spoilering for people who STILL haven't seen it (and yes, there are some), a mod went through and kindly edited out 4x22 spoilers. If you have referred to that spoiler in your post, PLEASE put a spoiler warning or edit it out of your posts. It's muchly appreciated.

[harveywhispers]

I fixed mine. There hadn't been specifics, but I wouldn't want to disappoint people.

[stellar]

Sorry... that was my fault. Although shouldn't this thread have spoiler space in the title? What about those Scapers who are still watching Season 4 and don't know about the cancellation? I didn't know about the cancellation until there were about four eps left in the season, so it follows that the viewers still watching may not know about it yet, either. In that case should we really call the site savefarscape.com? Isn't that a fairly mammoth spoiler, for those Scaper who don't want to know about the cancellation until they absolutely have to (as it pertains to the story arc)?

But seriously, I didn't intend to throw that spoiler out there. I didn't want to say how JC and AS were in that [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler] and that [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler] came out of the [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler] and [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler] and Dargo [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler], while Rygel [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler] and Chianna [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler] and then the [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler] totally frelled the [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler] and [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler] by the [Edited to delete S4 cliffhanger spoiler].

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[SabaceanBabe]

Let's see. It's been estimated that there are approximately 2 million fans in the U.S. Then there's another 2 to 2.5 million of our friends in the U.K. Then about another million or so in the rest of the countries around the world. Even using conservative numbers, that's about 5 million fans. At an average of $7 a pop for a movie ticket, that's $35 million, just in Scapers.

And who among us will be attending only one showing or by ourselves? I know I'll at least be seeing it half a dozen times and drag my husband to at least one showing, so I'll be accounting for at least 7 tickets all by my lonesome. If every Scaper mentioned above sees it only one time and takes only one person with them, we've already accounted for $70 million in box office receipts. They could splurge on this one and make it for $25 million and still make a huge profit on Scapers alone.

Even if only another 5 million peeps see it out of simple curiosity, we have a Hollywood style blockbuster on our hands.

I'm just sayin'...

[stellar]

You can only count American fans if you want the numbers to be significant enough to get into the press. That's $14Million. I've already committed to go to at least 7 showings opening weekend and will drag my wife to at least 2. I'll also buy my three younger brothers one ticket a piece so that they can get some culture in their lives... So that's 12*7... $84... ok let's make it $100.

How many fanatics do we have? If it's a million... you do the math. Spiderman had the highest grossing opening weekend at $114Million. Miracles do happen especially if there's no competetion.

[Mike@Pilots Chamber]

Well, I'd watch it AT LEAST twice, once with my girlfriend (although she doesn't like Farscape, but I'd pay for her ticket) and once with my new-to-Farscape housemates.

More people may come depending, but that's at least five they'd be getting out of me and my friends.

[Jude]

Originally posted by SabaceanBabe
Then there's another 2 to 2.5 million of our friends in the U.K.

Me being one of the many I know in the UK, and I have just gotten my friend interested in Farscape too!
Seeing as I saw Matrix Reloaded 4 times at £6.20, its safe to say I would see a Farscape movie more than that...and my friend would come along too...so that would be about 12 tickets...more if drag other friends along! So even if its just me and my best friend that would be £74.40.
With all the Farscape fans going to see it and as mentioned others who are cureous they would make millions! A worthwhile envestment I say...

[fiona-maria]

Yes.

But.

It HAS to be a good movie, otherwise, I am sorry, no matter how much I adore FarScape, I won't go more than once. And I WILL complain to the movie studio if it is of poor quality.

Fiona, telling the movie studio that HAVE to do it RIGHT:whip:

[Jude]

Originally posted by fiona-maria
Fiona, telling the movie studio that HAVE to do it RIGHT:whip:

I have confidence in them...

[Judith]

Originally posted by stellar
Sorry... that was my fault. Although shouldn't this thread have spoiler space in the title? What about those Scapers who are still watching Season 4 and don't know about the cancellation? I didn't know about the cancellation until there were about four eps left in the season, so it follows that the viewers still watching may not know about it yet, either. In that case should we really call the site savefarscape.com? Isn't that a fairly mammoth spoiler, for those Scaper who don't want to know about the cancellation until they absolutely have to (as it pertains to the story arc)?


Dude. That's just idiotic. First of all, why would you assume that just because you didn't realize the show has been cancelled, that no one else knew? Jesus. I couldn't watch the forth season because of my course load. Not because I've been living under a rock.

Second, if you've been following ANYTHING that's going on, there are many scapers in other parts of the world where season four hasn't even aired in its entirety.

Third...the cancellation doesn't pertain to the story arc. They intended to continue the show. Hence the Save Farscape effort.

[harveywhispers]

'Scapers, it is time to step back from this thread and take a deep breath.

'Scapers, it is time to remember that Henson & Co love Farscape as much (probably more) than we do.

'Scapers, it is time to remember that Farscape is a business venture for Henson.

'Scapers, it is time to realize (remember) that the way for Henson to make money off Farscape is to "sell it" to all of us.

'Scapers, it is time to realize that the "selling" part means giving us the Farscape we want & making it accessible to "casual viewers".

'Scapers, it is time to realize that a movie DOES NOT NEED TO HAVE A $114 MILLION BOX OFFICE TO BE A SUCCESS!!!

'Scapers, it is time to remember that WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE does count!

'Scapers, it is time to realize that WORLDWIDE RELEASE DOES GET PRESS (LOTR)!

'Scapers, it is time to quit feeding the troll & get back to work!

That said, why not check on some of the advertising & other threads to see where you can lend a hand.

Go on......

Everybody........

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I thought I smelled a pisher.....

[divinedaydreams]

I have a question. If they are intending to make a feature film and they start production which takes awhile if I understand correctly. What would happen if in the mean time another network picks up Farscape and wants new episodes? More specifically what if they decided to use the movie to help fill in that hole they left us in at the end of the last (but sure not for long) episode?

Or maybe I am just dreaming. Someone tell me.:horror:

:think:

[stellar]

Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
Dude. That's just idiotic. First of all...

It appears my sarcasm was too subtle (this is sarcasm). I was negligent in throwing that out there (this is not sarcasm). Sorry (this is not sarcasm). I am aware that many around the world haven't seen season 4 and that many of the new fans in the US and UK haven't either; and further, that many future fans will not have either (this is not sarcasm). Sometimes I forget; I forgot this time (this is not sarcasm).

- Stellar (cumulative effect of items in parentheses constitutes sarcasm... except in this one, or maybe it does).

[stellar]

Originally posted by divinedaydreams
I have a question. If they are intending to make a feature film and they start production which takes awhile if I understand correctly. What would happen if in the mean time another network picks up Farscape and wants new episodes? More specifically what if they decided to use the movie to help fill in that hole they left us in at the end of the last (but sure not for long) episode?

I think the timing could be perfect. If the rumor is true, or even it's not and speaking hypothetically, Skiffy owns the rights to rerun the first four seasons until May 2005 (?), which if production begins (or would begin under the hypothothetical condition) sometime in 2004, that would put a release date in possible conjunction with the end of Skiffy's icy grip on our beloved Farscape. What better advertisement for the series, which they could by all rights market freely at that time, than a successful box office? Or, if sufficiently successful they could spin of a line of juicy sequels... hopefully, the fourth one wouldn't be about whales. Hypothetically speaking of course... or not.

- Stellar

[akimbo]

Originally posted by stellar
... hopefully, the fourth one wouldn't be about whales.

:roflmao:

[Digger]

hopefully, the fourth one wouldn't be about whales.
Yeah, but isn't Moya just a space whale?

[stellar]

Two words: Transparent Aluminum.

[Nicola]

Originally posted by stellar
I ... if sufficiently successful they could spin of a line of juicy sequels... hopefully, the fourth one wouldn't be about whales. Hypothetically speaking of course... or not.


:bgb:

[akimbo]

Captain, there be whales here! :boat:

[RydraWong]

A good year or so ago, I remember finding this somewhere (apologies to whoever I'm snurching it from):

<Ken-from-Chicago> meanwhile FARSCAPE: THE MOTION PICTURE debuts as moya encounters a techno alien with knowledge of way to earth
<Ken-from-Chicago> followed by FARSCAPE: THE WRATH OF SCORP
<Ken-from-Chicago> "CRICHTON! You left me on that asteroid with the bone-eating alien! NOW the tide has turned! Prepare to die as you are ... eatened alive, eatened ALIVE!"
"SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP!!!!!!!"
<Ken-from-Chicago> FARSCAPE III: THE SEARCH FOR ZHAAN "You blue witch, why did you leave your mind in me, a Dominar of Hyneria?!"
<Ken-from-Chicago> FARSCAPE IV: THE WORMHOLE HOLE "You mean we have to get a frelling BUDONG to answer this alien and tell it what it can do with itself or else it will destroy the galaxy?!"
<Ken-from-Chicago> FARSCAPE V: THE UNCHARTED FRONTIER "John, what are you doing?" "I'm asking why 'god' needs a leviathan."
<Ken-from-Chicago> FARSCAPE VI: THE UNDISCOVERED TERRITORY "I'd pay real food cubes if he'd just shut up!"
<Ken-from-Chicago> FARSCAPE: TWINNERATIONS
<Ken-from-Chicago> "Oh frell, that ribbon has created a fantasy world with a whole bunch of twins."
<Ken-from-Chicago> FARSCAPE: FRELLING CONTACT
<Ken-from-Chicago> FARSCAPE: INSURRECTION (aka just another average day on farscape)
<Ken-from-Chicago> of course in the last 3 movies the DRDs get to use their new emotion chips

[vhsiv]

<Ken-from-Chicago> FARSCAPE VI: THE UNDISCOVERED TERRITORY "I'd pay real food cubes if he'd just shut up!" This Ken guy is a hoot! There must have not been a whole lot of people in that chat for him to fire these off - or maybe he's a lightning typist?...

[fiona-maria]

That's funny. Not about whales.*laugh*

Ken from Chicago, wherever you are, thanks for the grin.*grin*

Fiona

[jeffrabb]

:rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :wingnut: :roll: :roll: :snicker: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Jeff

[recklesshumor]

I know this is late in coming, but I wanted to address something said WAYYY back in the middle of this thread.

Hrmm am I right in saying that this guy was a lawyer who works for Henson? Erm.. isn't it kind of a breach of client trust or something to go around announcing his bosses future projects if his boss hasn't announced them? I always thought in the corporate world that sort of breach of confidentiality was a sackable offence.. which is why I wonder about the voracity of what he said... or who he said he was... Or maybe he was pulling someones leg?

Speaking from my experience as a lawyer, IF Mr. Alan currently represents Henson, he is only bound by attorney/client privilege to keep information confidential when it is given to him in THE COURSE OF his duties as an attorney. If the comment was just idle chatter between fans (albeit fans who are intimately involved in the show's production), then it is not confidential. Mr. Alan might get in trouble for leaking juicy information, but he won't be in trouble for violating a privilege.

I hope this alleviates any doubts that some of you may have been having about the veracity of Mr. Alan's comments. He wasn't violating any privileges, so don't doubt the comments based on that.

[AnnieBW]

Okay, I can just see Rygel and Chiana wandering around San Francisco looking for nuclear wessels. :D

Seriously, I don't think that Mr. Alan would have mentioned it to me if he knew that it would get him in trouble. Or, conversely, he probably knew that he wouldn't get in trouble because he's been the Henson Company's lawyer since Kermit was a tadpole.

[Bargaintuan]

If a feature film comes out, the benefits are twofold. First, if the movie is a hit, it will spark new interest in continuing the series. Second, the sets would all be rebuilt for the film. I'm not holding my breath, though. Then I'd pass out and miss the film. ;)

[Grippy]

First let me say WOW to the things that I miss when I don't drop by this board as often as I should. Cool! Good stuff!

Waaaay back someone said something like "...if Claudia could do a creditable mid american accent..." She has, and we've seen it. Out of Their Minds?

I'll cross all available appendages that this works out in whatever way. I'll take anything as long as it 's Farscape. I know I can commit my whole family with the exception of my two youngest brothers to going (4 people) probably more than once. Anyways, looking forward to official updates on this matter!

:kitty:

[NeilGartner]

I'm sitting here and I was wondering all this talk about a movie and then a TV show (or whatever) that we could be putting the wagon before the horse.

I just have a hard time imagining them doing a movie that doesn't resolve Bad Timing. Of course, if they do try to make a movie continuing right after Bad Timing, it will just confuse the non-fans who don't know what is going on.

So, what is stopping them from building the sets and doing something like a mini-series to complete Bad Timing which will leave the window wide open to tell up to date stories in a movie?

This is me waiting for the return of Farscape .... :pace:

Neil

[MediaSavant]

Originally posted by NeilGartner
I just have a hard time imagining them doing a movie that doesn't resolve Bad Timing. Of course, if they do try to make a movie continuing right after Bad Timing, it will just confuse the non-fans who don't know what is going on.

Neil

I think everyone should go back and look at the resolutions of every cliffhanger they've ever had.

All of them have been resolved very quickly in just a few minutes. Thus, it's not as big a deal as some people are making it to be.

Therefore, I agree that it can easily be resolved just like they always have been. It always has been.

[Perfect_Tommy]

Well not EVERYTHING gets resolved fast. I mean, season four had a few episodes without Claudia, a brave move that still left some hanging going from 3 to 4

[Farsight]

The main cliffhangers of each finale have always been resolved quickly, and often the resolutions occurred -offscreen- (seasons 1 & 3).

For a movie, it wouldn't surprise me if 'Bad Timing' were ignored completely, besides a small reference in passing like (edited for spoilers) :)

I don't -need- a detailed resolution to "Bad Timing". If the movie picked up some time after that, I could fill in the blanks. As long as the movie continues from where the main plot left off (Peacekeepers, Scarrens, Scorpy & Sikozu, Chiana, John & Aeryn & baby), I'd be thrilled.

DK has said he has a script in mind that would work well for a movie that needs to draw in new fans while telling a new story, so I'll trust that, and hope he gets the chance to make it happen.

[harveywhispers]

I have to agree with MS, they always resolve the cliffhanger really quickly & easily!

[Judith]

*sigh*

why is so hard for people to mark spoilers?

[stellar]

Maybe if the sysops were to create a sub-forum for spoiler-related topics, or somewhere where it was understood that spoilers were going to be handed out like so much electromagnetic candy. How about it?

[Judith]

Originally posted by stellar
Maybe if the sysops were to create a sub-forum for spoiler-related topics, or somewhere where it was understood that spoilers were going to be handed out like so much electromagnetic candy. How about it?

MMMM...electromagnetic candy. I just watched that one the other night. Then I wanted to watch the next one, but it was on another tape and boyfirend spilled margarita on it and now it doesn't work. He's renting me the appropriate dvds from the blockbuster this week.

So we have a movie rumor forum with no spoilers, and one for people who want to talk about spoilers? sounds good.

[stellar]

Yes! ... sorry to hear about the tape... I keep my FS DVDs segregated from the rest of my DVDs in a protective leather-like case. Meltdown wasn't on the tape was it? Oh the horror.

The yes was for the seperate forums. That would allow for stiffer penalties, or at the very least more authoratative talking-down-tos, for those inadvertant spoilers (like me) who mess up.

- Stellar
Try the dutch apple pie... it's terrific! :)

[NeilGartner]

This is by Tokyoscaper which I lifted off from the post, "Stirrin' things up... what FS movie plot would YOU like to see?" , I really like his/her idea about how a Farscape movie should be done. :aok:


Originally posted by TokyoScaper
If they did settle on a movie, I would pick it up right where season 4 left off.

However, the first 15-20 minutes or so, I would focus in on grieving D'Argo and Chiana. Drop viewers right into the middle of the shock and grief and then cut to a voice over by Rygel. I would use Rygel's voice over as was done in the Lord of the Rings to basically narrate the first four years of Farscape. Some scenes could use existing footage, some could be reshot. LOTR proved that you can get tons of exposition out in a very dramatic, compelling fashion that is still easy for a completely new viewer to digest. After the exposition, jump right back to Screaming D'argo and get right into the story from there.

The key is use humor and drama in those first 20 minutes to really suck new viewers into caring about John and Aeryn and give them a stake in wanting to see them rescued. I think Rygel would be the perfect narrator, because he is usually not central to the plots as other characters. During the narration he would exaggerate his role and really play it up. You would only hear his voice for the first 20 minutes and then have the actual character introduced in some humorous fashion that makes new viewers, say, "wait a minute, that's the guy we were listening to??" and old viewers think, "oh typical Rygel". Jonathon Hardy has the perfect voice for a storyteller and I think that he could pull something like that off incredibly well.

As for the rest of the movie, just have DK and all do whatever it was they were planning to do. I'm sure that the opener of Season 5 would have been fantastic. Just rescue John and Aeryn and beat the bad guys with all the twists, humor, action and fast pacing that we've come to expect but on a movie budget and within 2 hours. LGM and LATP were both 2 hours in length.

LOTR proved that people that are unfamiliar with the back-story are willing to be sucked into a compelling, believable world for three hours. I think that 20 minutes of well-done exposition + 2 hours of a kick-ass LGM/LATP type story would work just fine.

Neil

[Scaper989]

I just want it to end with

"To be continued..."

[Judith]

Originally posted by stellar
Yes! ... sorry to hear about the tape... I keep my FS DVDs segregated from the rest of my DVDs in a protective leather-like case. Meltdown wasn't on the tape was it? Oh the horror.



Oh, yes it was. Meltdown was the second episode on the type. And I was gonna show them to my friend who hasn't seen the ENTIRE Talyn John arc.

Can't get too mad about mistakes though. I did take in the cat who gave birth to the kitten who chewed through one of the main cords for my boyfriend's computer, costing him about $1,000 in equipment. (The cat was fine). And he (my boyfriend, not the cat) bought 3.5 for me, which shipped today.

I'm just gonna rent the dvd and make another tape. Eventually I'll do the right thing and buy the dvd itself, but I just can't afford it right now.

[MediaSavant]

Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
*sigh*

why is so hard for people to mark spoilers?

This is probably not going to make you feel better...

Most discussion groups and bulletin boards that discuss TV shows only strongly enforce spoiler protection until the episodes in question have aired in most countries. For Farcape, that was last March.

It is not feasible to enforce it to infinity. No matter how many advisories and begging, it's just not going to happen. Human nature gets in the way.

If people know that a large majority of fans have seen the episodes, they are going to assume that they can talk about them openly. No matter how much you try, you should assume failure on this.

So, you have a choice:
--Stop communicating and interacting with other fans until you've seen the episodes
--Get spoiled

[Judith]

Originally posted by MediaSavant

So, you have a choice:
--Stop communicating and interacting with other fans until you've seen the episodes
--Get spoiled

No, I disagree. Although I do admit that I overreacted when Stellar let something slip (sorry Stellar) that was really the first time in this thread there was a spoiler that big. Since then, the mods have asked people to mark spoilers, and because there was an earlier issue, I think it is inconsiderate when people have since put in spoilers. And I think that a LARGE group of fans haven't seen the end of this show, and many of them communicate on this board, and shouldn't be expected to just go away. I was just as excited as anyone else when I heard the movie rumor, and I don't think it is unreasonable of me (and others who haven't seen the end of the show) to expect courtesy from other Scapers.
:kitty:

[grapeshot]

Well, dearie, take heart in the fact that even IF you've been spoiled, you still won't be prepared for the TRUE impact of any given episode. THAT'S one of the many good things about Farscape.

By the way, I'm afraid that MS is right. At this point, you can't stop people from freely discussing FS. However, she didn't give you a THIRD option, which is to obtain a set of season 4 episodes. PM me, and I can see if the Tape Fairy will take pity on you.

[Judith]

Originally posted by grapeshot

By the way, I'm afraid that MS is right. At this point, you can't stop people from freely discussing FS. However, she didn't give you a THIRD option, which is to obtain a set of season 4 episodes. PM me, and I can see if the Tape Fairy will take pity on you.

I'd still have to respectfully disagree. The mods have requested that people put in spoiler space. I don't know if that really impinges on peoples' right to discuss farscape. I don't care if people put spoilers in. It would just be nice if people put spoiler space in so those of us who weren't lucky enough to see all four seasons could know which posts to skip.

[CrystalMoon]

I agree with MS, too, I'm afraid. For us in the US, the eps aired 7 months ago. We've been talking freely about them so much that I doubt it even occurs to people to mark spoilers. And I have to admit that your question about spoilers really surprised me.

Also, which spoilers do we mark? How long to we keep marking them? Is the first season okay because it aired so long ago? How about the second? Is it only the fourth season that has to be marked? Do we still do this a year from now?

Yes, mods might ask us to mark spoilers, but at this stage it's a losing battle, imo, and really not fair for everyone here to know what's a spoiler and what isn't one.

[Judith]

Originally posted by CrystalMoon


Yes, mods might ask us to mark spoilers, but at this stage it's a losing battle, imo, and really not fair for everyone here to know what's a spoiler and what isn't one.

I think, when in doubt, when it's a specific episode reference, mark it.

I would also like to remind people once again that this board isn't just for people in the US.

[harveywhispers]

The best advice I can give to those who want to remain unspoiled is to avoid the general "discussion" forum, & focus on the specific season sub-forums. Back in the day, pre-422, I found that this strategy was the only way to ensure total deprivation of spoilers. Other than that, I guess that I find it a bit unfair that the good of the few outweigh the good of the many. After all, if you look at the majority of longtime posters, we really do not give away that much in our posts.

[Judith]

Originally posted by harveywhispers
The best advice I can give to those who want to remain unspoiled is to avoid the general "discussion" forum, & focus on the specific season sub-forums. Back in the day, pre-422, I found that this strategy was the only way to ensure total deprivation of spoilers. Other than that, I guess that I find it a bit unfair that the good of the few outweigh the good of the many. After all, if you look at the majority of longtime posters, we really do not give away that much in our posts.

Like I said before, I am just as excited about the prospect of a Farscape movie as anybody else. If there's a rumor about Farscape being made into a movie, I'm going to talk about it. As far as the good of the few outweighing the good of the many, I don't see it that way. I see at as obeying the rules of the board, and as being courteous to other viewers.

Futhermore, before people started bringing spoilers, this was a thread to discuss the fact that Farscape may be made into a movie. I believe that there's another thread for Scapers to talk about possible plots/storylines that may be in the rumored movie. I guess it seems to me that if people want to talk about what may or may not happen in the movie, it might be more appropriate to use that space.

[Xothas]

I have started a spoiler-free thread in this forum. Please feel free to continue to utilize this thread; the new thread is simply an alternative for those concerned about spoilers.

Edited to add: In this thread, please mark spoilers appropriately. I realize it has been quite some time since 4.22 aired, but please be sensitive to other members who have not seen all of the episodes to date.

[Mivonks]

Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
I would also like to remind people once again that this board isn't just for people in the US.

Amen sister! :aok: That would be the World Wide Web? :D

I mean really, how hard is it to insert:

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Before you let rip? Or in the thread header?

Perhaps the mods could construct a vB Code button that automatically inserted the required text in the message?

It is a matter of courtesy. And it would be nice to continue to do so until the 4th season has been repeated on LieFi a few times. Just to cover those who haven't had the opportunity to view.

Matt
Pity us in foreign lands with no access to cable :(

[Boron]

Spoilers never bothered me. In fact, I looked for them. They just made me want to see the episode in question more than ever. But then again, I'm mentally disturbed.


:confused: :eek2: :freak: :shocked:

[Nicola]

Originally posted by Boron
Spoilers never bothered me. In fact, I looked for them. They just made me want to see the episode in question more than ever. But then again, I'm mentally disturbed.


:confused: :eek2: :freak: :shocked:

Me too. And I read the end of books and everything. Nice to have company in the asylum, Boron!:eek2: :shocked:

[harveywhispers]

I'm an avowed spoiler addict.

[seattlescaper]

Boron and Nicola:

I read the ends of books too.

[Perfect_Tommy]

I think if I could read and if I read books, I would read the end first. But, then again, I can't read so I guess it's a moot point.

[jeffrabb]

Boron, Nicola you two have any more room in that asylum of yours for another spoiler addict?:D

Jeff

[Jellyfish]

I can't believe it I always thought I was the only one who read the end first!!!

[waltersgirl]

you read the end of books first? what's the point then?

[CrystalMoon]

On the Dom there's an article from SFX that is interesting. Apparently, SFX is reporting a miniseries, and they're not calling it a rumor. They're just reporting a miniseries. Check it out.

http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/984/9088?

Also, combine this with Rockne's comments about a miniseries being the most likely thing to come for FS and I'm seeing a pattern here. Check out Grapeshot's report in the Convention area. I think his comments on a miniseries are in part 2.

[RydraWong]

Yup, I saw the SFX piece too. They ran a piece in the previous month's issue saying that a "well-placed source" had confirmed the rumor that a miniseries was being developed.

There's still nothing official, obviously, but SFX do seem pretty confident that this is genuinely in the works.

Fingers crossed ...

[ipimen]

you read the end of books first? what's the point then?

It is not about the destination, it is about the journey :D I don't read the end of books but i don't mind spoilers at all

[jeffrabb]

CM,

That is cool news. We're now seeing this in the print media rather than from the likes of IGN. I'd say we may be in for an early Halloween present this year.:jack::pumpkin::ghost::bgb:

Jeff

[waltersgirl]

i don't mind spoilers either, depending on the type, and the medium. in a film such as The Usual Suspects, knowing the twist ruins the premise of the entire film, the journey. stories are written to take the audience on a journey, to share emotions, to evoke feelings, to spark dialogue at times...if you know how it ends before you see it, or read it, then you don't come to the journey clean, fresh, with eyes open. you're knowledge alters your perceptions.

[stellar]

How does the Usual Suspects end? I'm renting it this weekend. ;)

[Judith]

When Harry Potter #5 came out, I read it before both of my sisters, made up fake endings, and pretended to spoil it for them. They believed me, and they weren't pleased, even though what I said turned out not to be true.

[Twich]

Steller...are you SERIOUS? Wow....that's a big one.

[stellar]

You mean the part about {edited to delete spoiler about Harry Potter #5} dying from {edited to remove graphic language}?

[stellar]

Originally posted by Twich
Steller...are you SERIOUS? Wow....that's a big one.

No, I'm not serious. I did figure out who Kaiser Soze was in the first half-hour though. It was {edited to delete spolier for the US}.

I also realized the "secret" in the Sixth Sense in the first 15 minutes. That secret was that {edited to delete spoiler about 6Sense}.

;) I'm such a card, aren't I?

[Judith]

Originally posted by stellar
You mean the part about {edited to delete spoiler about Harry Potter #5} dying from {edited to remove graphic language}?

Uh, actually after one of them figured out that I was lying the first time, I made up another, very graphic ending involving Harry and Dumbledore. My sister didn't believe me this time. But she still didn't think I was funny.

[Judith]

Originally posted by stellar
No, I'm not serious. I did figure out who Kaiser Soze was in the first half-hour though. It was {edited to delete spolier for the US}.

I also realized the "secret" in the Sixth Sense in the first 15 minutes. That secret was that {edited to delete spoiler about 6Sense}.

;) I'm such a card, aren't I?

My boyfriend figured out the "twist" in The Others from watching the previews and proceded to tell me. GRRRR....I LIKE ghost stories too.

[stellar]

That's a movie that I kept thinking that I had it. I had about 3 or 4 theories going on... all of them wrong by the end of the movie.

[GcleffGinger]

Miniseries is wonderful but this is what I think about them making a movie..................mmmmmm 50 feet of tight black leather filling my view........I gotta calm down, I'm an old married broad.

[I-am-so-Johns-girl]

Originally posted by GcleffGinger
Miniseries is wonderful but this is what I think about them making a movie..................mmmmmm 50 feet of tight black leather filling my view........I gotta calm down, I'm an old married broad.

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

[canadadoc]

Originally posted by GcleffGinger
Miniseries is wonderful but this is what I think about them making a movie..................mmmmmm 50 feet of tight black leather filling my view........I gotta calm down, I'm an old married broad.

Me too !!

c.

[trubador]

I just don't want the mini-series (if it IS a mini-series) to be a quick wrap-up to the end of the entire series. If we wanted that, we (and DK, et al) would've settled for the shortened (13-ep) Season 5 that Skiffy was trying to pawn off.

[Judith]

Originally posted by trubador
I just don't want the mini-series (if it IS a mini-series) to be a quick wrap-up to the end of the entire series. If we wanted that, we (and DK, et al) would've settled for the shortened (13-ep) Season 5 that Skiffy was trying to pawn off.

Well if it wasn't acceptable to them then, I don't know that it would be now.

[NeilGartner]

Originally posted by trubador
I just don't want the mini-series (if it IS a mini-series) to be a quick wrap-up to the end of the entire series. If we wanted that, we (and DK, et al) would've settled for the shortened (13-ep) Season 5 that Skiffy was trying to pawn off.

I think they really wanted to finish the show right or they would have taken that 13 episode deal. If they did took it, it would have been a quiet death for the show. Now with all the noise that we made, it showed everyone how much the fans loves this show and are pushing for its continuation. Hopefully this mini-series or whatever it might be, could end up being the launching pad for something else.

Neil