Anyone watch Joan of Arcadia?

[LiLOrion]

I did, basically cause I had no new DVDs to play and there was nothing else on. :)

Personally I didnt think it was bad. If forgot how slow some premieres can be though until they give you some background story. Half-way through I started to wonder if I should bother since it will probably be canned after 3 eps, but I stuck with it.

Now I'll probably forget when the heck its on and miss the next couple eps and be totally lost. :)

[grinner]

I actually liked it. I was kind of suprised by how well written and acted it was. I might have to watch it and see where it goes. It takes the thought of coincidences quite far.... and are the coicidences or acts of God? hmm.

[Selena]

No I didn't watch it, something else was on at the same time. The preview advertising had few redeeming qualities.

Joan of Arc was a corageous young woman who ended up being martyred for her beliefs and I was put off by the play on the name that seemed disrespectful.

[grinner]

Originally posted by Selena
No I didn't watch it, something else was on at the same time. The preview advertising had few redeeming qualities.

Joan of Arc was a corageous young woman who ended up being martyred for her beliefs and I was put off by the play on the name that seemed disrespectful. it really wasn't all that bad. I do agree with the name issue... play on words and all... but it was decent. Not as good as Miracles... man I wish that show would have been given a chance.

[LiLOrion]

True about the name....they also at one point had the main character looking at Joan of Arc in a book at the book store she worked at...I guess that was just in case no one "got" the name of the show.



Along the lines of "Miracles" and other shows that were canned before their time (in my opinion "Keen Eddie" and "Veritas" would be in that category - although "Keen Eddie" may just be playing hide and seek at the moment), does anyone think they should put these shows on DVD/video, especially if they actually made more eps than were shown and if there was some kind of "closure" at the end of their production run?

I have no idea what the cost of this would be so maybe it isnt worth it, but some shows that were canned early clearly had an audience, just not as big as the networks would have liked.

[grinner]

Originally posted by LiLOrion
does anyone think they should put these shows on DVD/video, especially if they actually made more eps than were shown and if there was some kind of "closure" at the end of their production run? yes I believe that these shows should be released. Then maybe I will be able to watch Strange Luck again.

[Twich]

I enjoyed it. Loved the banter and the twists...now we need to see where they take us. But I will be watching next FRIDAY (we CAN'T forget that time slot eh? LOL) and see what they do next. :D

[Hank]

Originally posted by LiLOrion
True about the name....they also at one point had the main character looking at Joan of Arc in a book at the book store she worked at...I guess that was just in case no one "got" the name of the show.

Maybe. But if we're being charitable, we might think that the point of the scene is that Joan herself finally gets the connection. She's a teenager who's just had an encounter with God. And he's not exactly forthcoming about why he's talking to her or why he wants what he wants.

What I found interesting is that we don't know either. This isn't the smarmy "God is love" of Touched By An Angel or Highway To Heaven. In the pilot God's commands to Joan have a couple of positive results. But the connection between her actions and those results is so tenuous that we're left wondering if they were the reason for his commands. Or were there other results that were the real intent. Or was there any intent at all? Maybe God just likes to play with the heads of cute sixteen year olds.

Personally, I think this show will be interesting just as long as it stays ambiguous. And I just don't see that lasting very long.

[atlantagirl]

I enjoyed it too. And I liked the dynamic of the family -- they are certainly not the typical Brady Bunch or Dallas dynasty type.

I did get distracted part of the time by how much John Ritter's son looks like his father, and I thought that having the science geek brother expound on theories of light and consciousness was rather ridiculous for a young teenage boy. But all in all, I thought it had promise. I'll watch it again.

[LiLOrion]

Well the good news is that "Joan of Arcadia" apparently won its time slot against the muchly hyped Alicia Silverstone show "Miss Match".

Heres hoping that trend continues and it wont get canned abruptly.

And I agree Atlantagirl, he even has some of his dad's mannerisms.

[Mickie]

This fell in the liked but didn't love. We'll see how next friday goes. I'm trying to figure out how her parents think that she's nuts because she saw someone out her bedroom window who was gone by the time she got downstairs and trough the door. And ever if he did think she was prone to halucinations, why didn't dad the cop, ask her for some more details about the guy who tried to push her into the car??

I did like how God was portraid though :D

[LiLOrion]

SPOILERS....











I agree with the dad and the guy trying to push her into the car. What the hell!! He knows there is someone going around killing girls. Though it looks like the other cop is keeping the guy in jail overnight on a "feeling" that he might have something to do with the murders, but we'll have to see what happens next week. Makes me think maybe God wanted her to get that job so that she could almost get kidnapped by the murderer and he could get arrested.

If I found that out, (God using me as bait) I wouldnt be talking to God no more I tell you that! :)

I think they are all still dealing with the older brother's accident, maybe thats why they are acting kinda wierd about the dude outside the window. Who knows.

[Third EYe]

I'm not sure yet, my wife watched it with me, and we are of the same opinion. We will watch again, see how it goes, looks ok anyway.

[Sparky]

I liked it and agree with Hank that the main character's look at the pic of Joan of Arc was introspective about why God
may be talking to her and what may be next. I don't think any of it is disrspectful, and some of it was funny and some was sad and dramatic. The actors are good as is the writing in the first one.

I missed it last night because friends like to do things on Fridays other than watch tv. What is it that Network's series make, 13 episodes or something like that? I know I can catch up in
reruns. ...Since it isn't on the Sigh Fiction channel.:kitty:

[MediaSavant]

Originally posted by Sparky
What is it that Network's series make, 13 episodes or something like that? I know I can catch up in
reruns. ...Since it isn't on the Sigh Fiction channel

If the show is successful--and so far, so good--the show will probably get a first season order of 20 or more episodes.

Regarding reruns, CBS is usually pretty good about running them. But, it's becoming more common for the big networks to drop rerunning series in the Summer and do reality shows instead because the reality shows get higher ratings.

And if a show isn't successful, forget about it.

The thing to watch for is that reruns often run in December and January so that they can spread their series out to May, the last big "sweeps" period.

Reruns aren't a guarantee on any channel these days, though.

[jayelsee]

I intended to watch this, but forgot it was on. I plan to give it a chance, though.

Our guy Matt Rousch LOVES it. That's one reason to give it a try.

[Twich]

I give it two thumbs up. :aok: :aok: It's great!!!

[ipimen]

just watched the second episde and i think i like this one...i'll keep on watching :D

[grinner]

One of the things that I like about it... is the way it says that if you do your best... and strive to be good/decent... that good things will happen.

I don't care for the theology of the show... they portray God as a Deist... and that he is pretty much hands off... he created the world and then left it. But???

[SabaceanBabe]

I missed the first ep, watched the second, and definitely enjoyed it. I think I'll keep watching...

[grapeshot]

well, I just tried it tonight, and thought it was pretty good. In fact, I thought it was just about the best thing I've seen so far this season. It's not smarmy, holier-than-thou, or quirky and cute. And it's surprisingly deep for a teevee show. I think I'll be watching it again.

[Third EYe]

I'm liking the show, my wife don't. I like the family, the interactions. I'm really curious about how the brother will do, as the eps move foward. This is a serious setback for anyone, especially a young man like this character.

The "god" stuff is my least liked part of the show. The theme song sucks, pure trash, but then again, my last hit single has never happened.

Yeah, I hope the show does well.

[Twich]

I'm enjoying it more and more. I get such a kick out of this show. I love that she questions God...and that he makes HER figure it out. He never gives her the answers flat out. It's...great. :) I'm extremely surprised and impressed.

And so far, it's winnning it's time slot...so I have hope that this is a lasting show. At least for another season... :)

[grinner]

quick question... is the Priest that the mom goes to see... Bill Mumy? If it isn't... it looks amazingly like him.

[Third EYe]

Originally posted by grinner
quick question... is the Priest that the mom goes to see... Bill Mumy? If it isn't... it looks amazingly like him.

No it is not Bill Mummy, he would be David Burke, I looked it up on the web. It seems there are two guys with this name, one who was in the newer Sherlock Holmes series, and one that did guest roles in things such as voyager.

Jason Ritter is in the show, he plays Kevin.

[grinner]

Ah yes... he played Arthur in the Tick television show. Damn I miss that show.

[frellyou]

So far the show is alright. I don't usually like to watch family dramas. If nothing more is going to happen with Joan other than following God's orders to play chess, get a job and take AP chemistry I'm outta there. I wouldn't have as much a problem with this if the show were at least high on drama or comedy but it doesn't seem to be either.

[Twich]

Did you see the first ep? With the stalker who is out killing girls? I have no doubt that that storyline will come back. I think it is quite a dramatic show...just that there are some times that are more dramatic than others.

[PrairieScaper]

Originally posted by grinner
Ah yes... he played Arthur in the Tick television show. Damn I miss that show. Thank you! I've been racking my brain trying to place that actor. Terribly underrated show, the Tick. But I'm relieved to see that Joan of Arcadia is doing well. It's much better than any other new show I've seen, so I naturally expected the worst for it.

[Twich]

I saw in the store the other day that The Tick has been released on DVD.

And it's quite different seeing him dressed as a priest. Kinda miss the ears..

[PrairieScaper]

Originally posted by Twich
I saw in the store the other day that The Tick has been released on DVD.

And it's quite different seeing him dressed as a priest. Kinda miss the ears.. :harvey: There are some ears for ya, Twich.

Excellent news about the DVD's! But oh no, another set to add to my wish list. Damn...

I saw something about the network asking to see some more scripts of Joan, but they still haven't really committed to an entire season of eps. What is the deal?
:pace:

[Twich]

Thx for the ears. Nice pick me up! :D

As to the scripts but not committing....what else do you think it is? It's US! We like it...

*sigh*


I already miss Boomtown.

[PrairieScaper]

Originally posted by Twich
As to the scripts but not committing....what else do you think it is? It's US! We like it... Yes, I'm afraid we are the fan version of an albatross.

I never saw Boomtown, but I've been told that since I loved Homicide I should give it a chance. Now I can't! :irate:

[B Sharp]

Originally posted by PrairieScaper
Yes, I'm afraid we are the fan version of an albatross.


I'd like to think that we're an advertiser's dream, given our demographics and passion, but jeesh, now that you mention it- I saw the posts here, watched a tape of last week's ep of Joan, thought to myself- hey, this one is pretty good...and then immediately started wondering if the show is doomed for an early death b/c we're enjoying it.

[Twich]

I :love: this show. I leave every episode excited to see GOOD tv again.

And the actress? She's just cute...her facial expressions are fantastic. :D

[PrairieScaper]

Okay, I spaced and missed Friday's ep. What happened?

[Twich]

Found this at joanofarcadia.com It's pretty concise and I just added a few extras that I thought important.)

Once again, Joan is given a mysterious task by God – he asks her to build a boat. Although Joan is inexperienced at such a task she finds that she possesses a certain knack for boat-building and even impresses her mom, Helen, by becoming somewhat consumed by the assignment. Unfortunately, as soon as she finds her rhythm, she feels that she looses whatever it was that made “boat-building” come so naturally. (Cause of the moronic school principle who tells her that she CANNOT build boats and he KNOWS it will fall apart and not float. Then Adam comes over to the house and tells her the boat is beautiful...and he loves it and she shares with him that she lost her "mojo" of boat building...he tells her the same thing happened with the Principle when he shared HIS talent with the principle. Mocked him, made fun of him...and now he can't do it. He tells Joan that he's sure the principle has a big coffin with all of the kid's talents in it that he has sucked out of them.)

In her frustration, Joan almost reveals to Adam that she speaks with God. (Except that God intervenes and tells her that maybe she doesn't know Adam well enough to tell him. It's a burden to get people to believe you. Joan says that Adam would believe her. And God says that maybe Adam is carrying enough burdens. He even says that maybe it's time for Joan to think about helping Adam carry some of his burdens rather than adding more for him. So Joan opts against telling Adam...which was really awkward, but I hope opens the door to a more open relationship with them...where we learn a little more about him. I think he's a cool character.)

The strain on Will (dad) and Kevin’s relationship is not easing up in the slightest. Kevin asks Will for a new transmission, and in turn Will introduces his son to Bear a paraplegic he works with. Will’s intention is for Kevin to start playing basketball with the wheel chair bound man, to get into shape. Kevin is convinced that his father loved him more when he was a jock, and once Will leaves the gym, Kevin wheels himself home – an entire seven miles. When he gets home, Kevin burns his father’s memory book – a scrapbook filled with photos of Kevin’s achievements as an athlete. Kevin’s actions hurt Will and compound the stress in their already fractured relationship, but it’s Joan’s boat in the garage that puts them back on the road to recovery. (Joan comes home at the end of a rather difficult day...and finds her brother pulling the boat apart and wondering how she got that far. Dad has also found Kevin doing this and the two of them end up working on how to make a boat work instead.)


Hope that helps! Next week's ep...we find out that mom was an artist who has some rough things in her past. Looks good! :D

[PrairieScaper]

Thanks for the quick synopsis, Twich! I didn't even know there was a joanofarcadia.com.

Was the priest (Tick's Moth) in this ep? I hope they keep his character in the show regularly. I love the way Mary Steenburgen just blindsides him with these heavy questions on the streetcorner. Poor guy.

[Twich]

I know! I was laughing at that the last time she did it. She keeps throwing all sorts of money into his pot after she asks him, like a fortune teller or something. (I know it's guilt..but still...I LOL every time!)

And her questions are always SO huge and heavy! Poor guy! I hope they do continue his character, but I don't think he was in this last ep.

[grinner]

This was a very interesting episode. I had a feeling that the radio dude was going to be an idiot... the backstory on the mother was interesting... and how the father reacted to the rape.
Anyone thing that the Lt. Michael Daghlian is really gone... or will he be back.
I still think that the whole situation is starting to appear more like happenstance and coincidence.

[Third EYe]

Coincidence? Like what?

The Lt will back, in my estimation, he will do the right thing. He may get demoted or put on disciplinary probation.

We still don't know what has the mommy character all tied up in bundle of nerves.

I'm still watching, mostly to see what happens to the brother. It's a busy show, lots of characters, I like that.

[grinner]

Originally posted by Third EYe


We still don't know what has the mommy character all tied up in bundle of nerves.
. she was raped while in College and the rapist was never caught.

[Third EYe]

I must not have been as much attention as I thought I was.

[Lord Loser]

I was wondering why I'd never heard of the show, but then I realized it was probably on CBS. It is, and that's why I don't watch it. CBS is a bunch of morons and I don't watch their channel, regardless of what's on.

[SabaceanBabe]

Originally posted by Third EYe
We still don't know what has the mommy character all tied up in bundle of nerves.

Not only was she raped in college and the rapist never caught, but he also got her pregnant and she had an abortion. Pretty harsh stuff.

[PrairieScaper]

Sounds like I missed a pretty important ep as far as character development goes. For the 2nd Friday in a row, I missed Joan! Now I just have to find someone who tapes this show or I'll go nuts. Or, more nuts, to be honest.

[frellyou]

I watch the show but damn it is boring. I just finished watching the most recent episode and I still don't have any clue at all why god would bother with Joan. Not because he's god but because she is so ordinary. There is absolutely nothing special about the character. So ok what does god tell her to do? So far get a job, take AP chemistry, take up chess, build a boat, have a yard sale. Holy christ! WTF?! These of course are all things that supposed to benefit joan but how is that remotely interesting? I've just about had it with this show. I would highly recommend anyone tune into Wonderfalls on Fox instead.

[PrairieScaper]

I didn't think Wonderfalls had even started yet? Did I miss it?

With all due respect, frellyou, I think maybe you're missing the point? Joan certainly is not an extraordinary person but God still talks to her because even her small actions can have ripple effects on others' lives. She is only beginning to see how far the consequences to her actions can reach, whether they really benefit her or not -- and frequently they don't. God is teaching her about herself, but maybe more importantly, about what she can do for others.

If you find it boring, well, watch something else. Not everyone here is going to love the same shows -- with one obvious exception. C'est la vie. :)

[Twich]

Frellyou, I disagree wholeheartedly. (But respectfully.) God does not use only extraordinary people. If He did, we'd all be screwed because some of the most incredible people throughout history have actually just been people who were "ordinary" and didn't think they were special.

And God does look at the little things in people's lives. We never have any idea what the little things in our life might mean to someone else.

THAT is what's cool about this show. I'm sorry you find it boring. I happen to think it's quite possibly one of the best shows currently on television. ESPECIALLY on network television. ;)

[PrairieScaper]

Here's some good news from today's TVGuide Online:
"HIGH FIVE: CBS has extended full-season, 22-episode orders to five of its new fall series: Joan of Arcadia..."
http://www.tvguide.com/news/entertainment/

:sun:

[ipimen]

YAY!!! a full season!! awesome.

I really like this show and i don't find it boring at all. I agree that Joan is an ordinary teenager, but that is THE POINT! It means that everyone's actions (either suggested by God or not) have an effect on ppl's lifes. I like the fact that simple things like joining AP chemistry, going to the chess club, building a boat or having a yard sale, can create ripples and have ordinary (but important) outcomes. This is not a show about God talking to someone, it is about action and reaction, it is about doing something with your life, it is about being more (and we know how important that is). It is a show that has a message but it doesn't lecture you, and it is really entertaining. I am not religious but i believe in God and i find the way that he/she/it is portrayed here very amusing.

Wonderfalls is also a really fun show, i watched the pilot, and i don't see why i should choose since i like both :D Keep the intelligent shows coming please!! I need them

[PrairieScaper]

From what I can find on Wonderfalls, it doesn't seem to be scheduled until maybe January in the States.

[Mickie]

Originally posted by PrairieScaper
From what I can find on Wonderfalls, it doesn't seem to be scheduled until maybe January in the States.

Whew. For a second there, I thought I'd missed it. (I didn't, did I?)

[frellyou]

Originally posted by ipimen
YAY!!! a full season!! awesome.

I really like this show and i don't find it boring at all. I agree that Joan is an ordinary teenager, but that is THE POINT! It means that everyone's actions (either suggested by God or not) have an effect on ppl's lifes. I like the fact that simple things like joining AP chemistry, going to the chess club, building a boat or having a yard sale, can create ripples and have ordinary (but important) outcomes. This is not a show about God talking to someone, it is about action and reaction, it is about doing something with your life, it is about being more (and we know how important that is). It is a show that has a message but it doesn't lecture you, and it is really entertaining. I am not religious but i believe in God and i find the way that he/she/it is portrayed here very amusing.

Wonderfalls is also a really fun show, i watched the pilot, and i don't see why i should choose since i like both :D Keep the intelligent shows coming please!! I need them


Er, you can do all of those things on a show that doesn't involve god in the least bit. If GOD is going to be in a tv show then there should at least some valid plots for why he is there, why he has chosen Joan and what the outcome will be because of it. Never in my wildest dreams would I ever imagine that THE God would become family guidance counselor and big brother to the Giradi family. All he does is direct Joan on how she can bring joy to her family ever week. Talk about favoritism. Get into boat making so that her brother and father can find the boat later on and find something they want to do together. I mean cmon that's idiotic. Wouldn't it make more sense for god to give joan superpowers to fight the forces of evil, free the slaves and part the red sea rather than watching her every move to see if she'll take up chess?!?

Mickie you didn't miss it. I only mentioned it because I saw the pilot episode and thought the show was a much more worthwhile show to watch. The writing is much more innovative and creative. It's like comparing Star Trek Enterprise to Farscape. You could watch both shows and enjoy them but you'd really be wasting your time with the former when the other show is so much more superior. My point being? Why bother?

[Twich]

Frellyou, I believe you are missing the point of the show entirely. If you are a believer in God, you will see that He CHOSE simple people to do His bidding.


-Mary, for instance, wasn't anyone spectacular...and He chose her to be the Mother of Jesus.

-Jesus, by trade, was a simple carpenter.

-David, who grew to be king, the youngest in a family of shepherds.

- Moses was also a shepherd at the time he was called. Sure, previously he was the "son" of a Pharaoh...but at the time he was "called" into service, he was out tending sheep.

-His disciples were tax collectors and fishermen.

It could be argued that God really wouldn't use ANY of those people. They are just like us. Every day people that ended up doing extraordinary things.

And as for WHY he chose Joan and her family, we have no idea of what implications the future might hold because of the Girardi family. It's called CHAIN REACTION. Ever seen Pay it Forward? One person does something that sets off a reaction we may never understand. That was outlined in one episode where she asked "why" and God rattled off several timelines that could be possible from her one act of joining the chess club. (I think.) Look at ALL of the people that this family touches every day. You have no idea whose life she may touch.

And.....you don't believe it's possible that God would be interested enough in Joan and HER life to care what happens to her and her family? That's not enough? I do.

(Warning...'bout to get religious here...so look out.)

I personally believe that Jesus Christ was sent here to die for ME. My family. No one on earth would be able to justify that if they looked at my husband and myself. We are just "normal" people. Why would God DIE for us? Yet I believe He did and that He has a plan for our lives. Simple and small as we may be and that He cares enough to be involved in the details.

[grinner]

I loved the cheer that Joan gave at the end of the show... very impertinent. This was a pretty heavy episode with regards to group dynamics and how children/teenagers will turn on each other with very little regards to the others wellbeing. A very good episode.

[marandken]

Joan has become one of the family's favorite show. My usually gruff husband puddles up at the end of almost every episode. There have been great lessons and examples for the Boy (9 years old) and we have some wonderful conversations about the topics. I will say that there are very few shows that all three of us can watch, enjoy and have some interesting values conversations.

Grammer is my life (NOT) ;)

Miss Match...eh. Too bad too, because I LoVe Alicia. This show is just too ordinary. They did move it to the later time (I think) because it just started appearing on my TiVo; where before there was this conflict.

I will say that most of this season's (and last) new shows have been a big disappointment. Glad I still have 26 Farscapes on the machine, plus a new boxed set on the way. :D AND, always, this great board!! :D :D

[Twich]

Miss Match is just a feel good...."Ed" ish type of show. It's not bad, but it's not exceptional either.

And this episode of Joan was one of the stellar eps. My husband and I both watch it and love it. I hope they continue along this same path...and don't let it get stupid. :D

[PrairieScaper]

Yes, Joan's cheer was fab! Good ep. I honestly can't remember the last time I really liked a show that was generally considered a 'family show.' I think that's because most shows that get tagged as family shows seem to be either simplistic or sappy or both. Here's hoping Joan continues to avoid those pitfalls -- and avoid network-induced stupidity, as Twich said!

But I want the sidewalk priest back, durnit...

[grinner]

Wow, what an interesting episode.
I am liking this show more and more. I love the questions that the show raises. How people don't listen... they just either ignore or don't want to hear things. All the incidents that occur in the show lead back to the main point of the episode. The cops didn't listen to the man that they beat... because they had pre-judged the man... and they didn't realize that he was mentally disabled.
Joan didn't listen to either the little boy when he tried to explain that he was dying... or that her friend didn't like November because his mother had died 3 years previously in the month of November.
Helen wasn't willing to talk to her husband Will about her feelings...

I am liking this show more and more.

[Twich]

Me too! And I loved it when it started! Every week I hold my breath....afraid that they are going to somehow screw it up, and every week I find myself saying "I LOVE THIS SHOW!"

[trubador]

The scene with God as the little girl on the swing was hilarious. :rollin:

[PrairieScaper]

Hurray, the sidewalk priest (AKA Tick's sidekick the Moth) was back! Turns out he's actually pretty wise, despite his befuddled responses to Mrs. G's blindsiding questions on the sidewalk.

Good ep. I like how they didn't try to tack an 'up' ending on the little kid's story, just to make it more palatable. The boy will die (as everyone will, he pointed out, he's just going to die sooner than most do), that's God's plan, and God does not have to explain it. Interesting stuff.

It was cool to see in the end how all of the storylines somehow tied into the theme of needing to listen.

The only thing I don't like is that I now have to wait an entire week for another ep.

[Twich]

Originally posted by trubador
The scene with God as the little girl on the swing was hilarious. :rollin:

I know. I loved it the first time they had God as the little girl. When she was walking by the playground, I was like "Yay! Please let God be a kid again!!!" :lol They have such a great sense of humor on this show!!!

[grinner]

Originally posted by Twich
I know. I loved it the first time they had God as the little girl. When she was walking by the playground, I was like "Yay! Please let God be a kid again!!!" :lol They have such a great sense of humor on this show!!! this may sound silly... but I wrote a letter to the creators of this show... something I have only done for 2 shows... Doctor Who and FarScape.

I told them to keep up the good work and keep the intelligence in the show... don't make it all platitudes. I really like this show.

[Twich]

It most certainly does not sound silly! I'm glad you did. Now you've inspired me. I might have to do so too. :)

I have such hope for this show. I'm scared to like it too much. Anyone else feeling that way?

[grinner]

Originally posted by Twich
It most certainly does not sound silly! I'm glad you did. Now you've inspired me. I might have to do so too. :)

I have such hope for this show. I'm scared to like it too much. Anyone else feeling that way? that thought is in the back of my mind with any show that I start to like... the dread that it might not last, or will be to intelligent for the majority of the ZOMBIES that sit in front of the boob tube.

[grinner]

I really must say this... I LOVE THIS SHOW.
There, I said it.

[Twich]

Yay! Someone else says the same thing!!! :applaud:

[grinner]

Originally posted by Twich
Yay! Someone else says the same thing!!! :applaud: I am actually starting to look forward to Friday night television again. I typically go out after Joan now. I would tonight... but my buddy's daughter is sick... so he had to stay home. Oh well, family is important.

[Twich]

Yup. Family is important. And for those of us who have little kids...it's NICE to have something to watch while we're at home on Friday night.

I'm beginning to look forward to it too.

Here's hoping they don't royally frell it up. :beer:

[grinner]

Originally posted by Twich


Here's hoping they don't royally frell it up. :beer: I'll drink to that... :beer:

[Third EYe]

I went to Best Buy this morning, to get Dreamcatcher and T3 along with Pumping Iron (5 bucks off) and on the way out the door guy asked to see my reciept.

I couldn't stop thinking that if I had brought a weelchair that I could have gotten it all for free!

Some people really are that way, they feel guilty for something that has nothing to do with them. It's sad. I spent a 6 week stretch in a chair and people did treat me diferently, very much so. They were kinder and less inquisitive. They seemed to want to just get the hell out of where they were at that moment. Others though, didn't seem to make a diference to them. My friends were mostly cool, they helped when I needed it, didn't offer if it looked like I could manage.

Strange behavior from us humanoid above ground dwellers.

[PrairieScaper]

I like the way they're handling the Kevin storyline. It's not maudlin and there are no easy answers.

I also liked when the Moth priest told Joan that she reminded him of her mother. :rollin:

I appreciate how character development is not being rushed, and that issues are continuing ep-to-ep. They aren't sticking to a format of strictly stand-alone eps. As Martha would say, it's a good thing.

[frellyou]

Boy gOD really doesn't have much to do does he? Now he's trying to keep Adam in school. Btw, on an upcoming episode of Joan of Arcadia, god helps Joan with a tough decision......should she wear the red or blue sweater to school. You decide, next week on Joan of Arcadia.

[grinner]

if you don't like it... fine. But don't denigrate those of us that do with your inane posts.

[grapeshot]

I think that even the most mundane-seeming decisions, even the ones involving what to wear, have deeper ramifications -- even if you are not conscious of them. Nor can mankind pretend to comprehend God, and what He does, or how He does it. (Or the Eternel Divine, or whatever you call Him/Her.) This show uses the device of God speaking to Joan through different people at odd times as a way to symbolise that God is always speaking to us, but not always in a way we're willing to accept, or with a message we want to hear, or that we can understand.

Joan gets direct contact from those odd messengers, but her brothers, her parents, and her friends, who all struggle with their own troubles and conundrums, have to find their own answers. Most of the time, after all their consultation with family, friends, the odd priest or rabbi, they find their own answers. Usually this answer comes after they finally listen to their inner voice. That's the voice that tells you the difficult things about a dilemna that you've been avoiding. That's God talking to you. This show's message seems to be that the important thing is not just to do the right thing, but also the struggle it takes to figure out what that right thing is.

I like this show, because it's unusual for television to show spiritual subjects without preaching, or oversimplifying things. It's also a show that's subtle and makes things at once both simpler and deeper. (I'm also waiting to see how long this can last -- I'm always afraid that the next episode is going to be the one that falls short. I can't imagine this show lasting -- simply because it's both different and good. What are the odds?)

[grinner]

Wow... another well written episode. Ace-ing a test brought out alot of issues... A teacher who wanted to quit, an assistant principle who is shown to be a bigger idiot, Joan's father making a decision to fight(maybe). Going to a family therapist... and having Kevin break down and tell exactly why he is being closed to everyone in the family. Good episode.

Joan's friends are being very... aloof to her... I wonder where that is going.

[Third EYe]

Thriving in the face of adversity

[grinner]

Originally posted by Third EYe
Thriving in the face of adversity yep

[jayelsee]

I really enjoyed this episode. Have to say, this show is really growing on me. This is pretty much my only "appointment TV" now that Boomtown is on hiatus. The last scene with the family counselor was.....oomph. Not overplayed, realistic responses from the family (what to say....what can they say?) I was crying, too. These actors are right on, they have their characters nailed.

[grinner]

Originally posted by jayelsee
The last scene with the family counselor was.....oomph. Not overplayed, realistic responses from the family (what to say....what can they say?) I was crying, too. These actors are right on, they have their characters nailed. Other than Ange and ERl... this is the only show that I watch live... instead of off the DVR. You are spot on about that last scene... beautifully done.

[ipimen]

Can i join the rest of you at saying that I LOVE THIS SHOW!

Friday's ep was really good. I can understan Adam and i'm wondering how is this going to get fixed (if ever). I like the fact that Joan has a lot of faith, even when God's requests are really weird and not easy at all, she always follows them. She has realized that God has mysterious ways and that they work, that the outcome of his/her requests are good.

Sometimes i wish that God would talk directly to me and tell me what to do, but then i realize that i should be carefull what i wish for, it would be a heavy burden that i'm not sure i'll be able to handle.

The fact that they ordered a full season is a good sign, but we all know that they might have a "getting off" clause somewhere. I hope this one lasts and that it stays good, intelligent and emotional :D

[Third EYe]

Originally posted by grinner
Other than Ange and ERl... this is the only show that I watch live... instead of off the DVR. You are spot on about that last scene... beautifully done.

I don't watch any shows live. I hate commercials so much it's painful.

I'm enjoying the show more for the side issues rather than Joan's interaction with God. Matter of fact, if there was no talking to God, it would still be a good show.

[blue]

The premise of this show sounded SO BAD when I heard the description, I'm flabergasted that the show is SO GOOD. The writing and acting are superlative.

[grinner]

Originally posted by blue
The premise of this show sounded SO BAD when I heard the description, I'm flabergasted that the show is SO GOOD. The writing and acting are superlative. I honestly thought it was going to be like Touched by an Angel... which I didn't care for... so I agree with you.

[jayelsee]

I didn't watch it at first either, for the same reasons. Now, I can't wait (I actually have a TGIF show again). This week, I kept thinking Wednesday was Friday (because I wasn't going to work on Thursday, so it seemed like it was going to be Saturday, well you get the drift), and I kept thinking to myself, "Gotta turn on the TV at 8, Joan of Arcadia is on tonight".

I was happy to see the rerun last night, since I had not watched the series from the beginning (it was the season opener where she first "meets" God).

[PrairieScaper]

Originally posted by jayelsee
I was happy to see the rerun last night, since I had not watched the series from the beginning (it was the season opener where she first "meets" God). I'm really hoping that the network will re-run all the eps at some point, since I've missed 2. Reruns seem to be replaced more and more by reality shows during midseason and summer series breaks, it seems. What a wretched trend. How can we ever catch up on shows we've missed? :confused:

[grinner]

Wow... very good episode. again.

I have a question for you all... would this be considered a speculative fiction television show? I think yes... but I am not 100% sure. I think I should add it to the list... but it is more of a drama... with some spiritual/metaphysical aspects.

[JadedLegend3]

Originally posted by grinner
Wow... very good episode. again.

I have a question for you all... would this be considered a speculative fiction television show? I think yes... but I am not 100% sure. I think I should add it to the list... but it is more of a drama... with some spiritual/metaphysical aspects.

I should think so. I mean, it does have God in it.

And you know, I thought the idea of this show was cute, but I never really watched it. Then last week and yesterday I watched it (b/c my ma does and I was snowed in last night and didn't really have a choice! LOL) and I really like it.

It's a lil predictable, but very cute.


Jacqui :love:

[grinner]

wow... the moral of tonights episode... be observant. You never know if by your observing and being with someone, can save someone.

Another good episode... but I am wondering what Joan needs to do to get back with Adam. And Grace... wow... who knew?

[Alexxia]

Wow...that was one of those episodes where you're waiting for the impact, and then...whoa. That was definitely awesome. I'm wondering about Adam, too. I am totally hooked on this show.

[Twich]

All I can say is :joy:


It KEEPS getting better and better!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!

I can't believe Grace. And Joan's dad. And Mr. Price. (That guy needs fired SO bad.)

And......IT WAS SO GOOD!!!!!!!!

[atlantagirl]

Wasn't that Chip from Kate & Ally?

[PrairieScaper]

Originally posted by Alexxia
Wow...that was one of those episodes where you're waiting for the impact, and then...whoa. That was definitely awesome. I'm wondering about Adam, too. I am totally hooked on this show. Agreed. I wondered how observing was going to make a difference -- and then God's explanation in the end, wow. Great ep.

(Alexxia, your Shakespearean Hokey Pokey made me LOL, literally!)

[grinner]

Originally posted by atlantagirl
Wasn't that Chip from Kate & Ally? yes it was Chip from Kate & Allie

[atlantagirl]

Originally posted by grinner
yes it was Chip from Kate & Allie

Ally must be so proud. Her little boy's all grown up and now a psychopath. It was probably being the house with all those women that did it. ;)

[Alexxia]

Originally posted by PrairieScaper
(Alexxia, your Shakespearean Hokey Pokey made me LOL, literally!)
Glad you like it. I needed a change.

[grinner]

Originally posted by atlantagirl
Ally must be so proud. Her little boy's all grown up and now a psychopath. It was probably being the house with all those women that did it. ;) :lol That is what happens when you live with so much estrogen... :shudder:

[grinner]

I've been checking out some Joan forums... and... wow. That is all I can say. There are some inane conversations over at some of them. Lots of shippers over Adam and Joan... arguing about wether they should be together or not...

seems to be a show that gets younger female viewers... as that is what most of the forums are populated by.

[Mickie]

I loved how Joan's Dad handled the phycho-guy. I also wonder if his speach wasn't supposed to be taken to heart by any viewers who are trapped in a teen-aged hell.

Is that my tie? :lol

I also appreciate that they didn't resort to a 'dramatic re-enactment' of what would have happened if Joan hand't done what she did. I think that it actually had more impact the way it was done.

[trubador]

The classic line from Friday was at the dance: "Did he just convert her from Mac to PC?"
:rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin:

[marandken]

There are so many things to love...

(In no particular order)

It was the first time god actually told Joan what would have happened and... I thought about that all weekend, pretty scarey.

I also love that Grace is the daughter of a rabbi. She may be rebelling from her family, but it's ironic that she's becoming Joan's best friend.

I also don't think that Adam should forgive her that quickly for destroying the art. From his point of view, it was an unforgivable act.

Even my manly husband puddles up at the end of each episode.

[trubador]

Puddles???.... Puddles???..... We men don't "puddle"..... we regularly relieve our tear ducts for proper eye irrigation. :cry2:

[grinner]

Originally posted by trubador
Puddles???.... Puddles???..... We men don't "puddle"..... we regularly relieve our tear ducts for proper eye irrigation. :cry2: :shrug: works for me...:lol

[jayelsee]

A little rant......

I turned on TV to watch rerun of Joan of Aradia Friday (the one where she has to build a boat), and it had been pre-empted by a Michael Jackson special. AAARGH.

I would rather watch a rerun of this show 10 times than most of what else is on now once!

Did anyone see that Amber Tamblyn was nominated for a Golden Globe; and "Joan" was one of Matt Roush's 10 ten for 2003?

[grinner]

Originally posted by jayelsee
A little rant......

I turned on TV to watch rerun of Joan of Aradia Friday (the one where she has to build a boat), and it had been pre-empted by a Michael Jackson special. AAARGH.

I would rather watch a rerun of this show 10 times than most of what else is on now once!

Did anyone see that Amber Tamblyn was nominated for a Golden Globe; and "Joan" was one of Matt Roush's 10 ten for 2003? it was on an hour later... after the pedophile's special. And yes... that was cool. The Matt Roush thing.

[jayelsee]

Well, dren. I was so disgusted I turned off the TV. Oh, well, I was probably here. Or doing something else more constructive.

[grapeshot]

Don't worry, it was a repeat episode anyway. I like Joan of Arc, but unlike Farscape, it's not a show that holds my attention a second time. I turned the channel away after a half hour.

[marandken]

Small Aside on the Pedophile (sp?)
Steve Kroft from 60 minutes was on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart (an absolutely fab way to get your news, BTW) several months ago when they were running pedophile TV on ABC and the reply on Fox (I think).

Anyways, Jon asked Steve if he watched any of it. He said he tried, but then felt he had to wash his TV set afterwards. Funny, how now Steve's very show (network) paid that PHF (tired of trying to spell it) US$1 million for that so-called interview. Ironic?

PS: I haven't watched any PHF TV.