Which should Aeryn and John's baby be??? [Archive]

Judith

11-04-2003, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by talyn3
Doesn't it say what it should be in Horizons?? Their eldest child was..... or something like that.

But I thought Horizons explicitly stated that it was just O'bannon's view of what COULD happen...and it wasn't necessarily the view of anyone else involved in the show.

padmeskywalker

11-05-2003, 06:39 AM

Doesn't it say what it should be in Horizons?? Their eldest child was..... or something like that.

Havn't read it, that I know of,

But this is more of what do YOU want it to be...

Kalliope

11-05-2003, 07:56 AM

In "Prayer" Aeryn talked about her baby as "she"...

generic_screenname

11-05-2003, 09:33 AM

I think it should look like Rygel.

blueaeryn

11-05-2003, 09:47 AM

The baby has to be a daughter. Has to be and her name will be Hope.

BA

padmeskywalker

11-05-2003, 11:34 AM

prayer you say? I'll have to look for that, when sci-fi finally re-runs (Jan prob)

I'd like a boy. Just me. Of course, since we are 'wishing' let it ve twins and one of each. ;)

talyn3

11-05-2003, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by generic_screenname
I think it should look like Rygel.

That could go so many ways....

to quote Rygel XVI-
"My prodgeny are Handsome, handsome and tiny."

Judith

11-05-2003, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by padmeskywalker
. Of course, since we are 'wishing' let it ve twins and one of each. ;)

Ow! Poor Aeryn....

I don't know why I want it to be a girl...I just do.

fiona-maria

11-05-2003, 01:38 PM

Girl. Girls rule.*grin*

And besides, look at John's face in LATP when he sees his daughter....omigod talk about heartbreak...*sigh*

Fiona

padmeskywalker

11-05-2003, 01:42 PM

*sigh* havn't see it yet, Dec though... (boy, Dec needs to hurry up and get here)

Scaper989

11-05-2003, 10:59 PM

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Stillborne.

Why? 'Cause Farscape ain't a kid's show. I'd HATE to see a
Will Robinson or Wesley Crusher saving the day. That REALLY
brings a show down.

Kids and space adventures don't mix.

Go ahead and boo me, I don't care. I like science fiction for
adults, not teenagers or kids.

divinedaydreams

11-05-2003, 11:24 PM

Well they could still have one and ...could be stolen
...could be hidden away to keep it from being stolen
...could be some genetic freak that grows really quickly
...could be some sweet little thing that knows nothing of the world and the whole crew fights to keep it that way

The possiblities are endless.

Oh Oh how about John finds another way back to Earth and sends the child there to be raised by his dad. I like this option, out of the way but still not dead.

auroraSun

11-05-2003, 11:34 PM

I wish it were a girl, but I agree with scaper 989 it will either be a stillborn or die shortly after. I really don't want to see a kid in the show, unless the girl is all grown. And that girl better know how to fight (not innocent). Anyways, if there has to be a child, let it be a girl, my opinion totally.

Judith

11-05-2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Scaper989
I'd HATE to see a
Will Robinson or Wesley Crusher saving the day. That REALLY
brings a show down.

Kids and space adventures don't mix.

Go ahead and boo me, I don't care. I like science fiction for
adults, not teenagers or kids.

It doesn't have to be that way though. I don't want a little Wesley Crusher running around either. But we don't know what the gestation period for Sebaceans is. If they give us season five...Aeryn could be pregnant throughout almost the entire season. That's really how I see them doing it, if the baby survives.

As for it being an adult show...yes, I agree that it is. But one very important aspect for many adults is children. And one of the thing the Farscape has been very good at is...even though it's a very outlandish show...that DO make it relate to real life. That's one of it's great stregnths, I think.

atlantagirl

11-05-2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by divinedaydreams
Well they could still have one and ...could be stolen
...could be hidden away to keep it from being stolen
...could be some genetic freak that grows really quickly
...could be some sweet little thing that knows nothing of the world and the whole crew fights to keep it that way

The possiblities are endless.

Could be a pilot! :spin:

padmeskywalker

11-06-2003, 07:08 AM

Boy, some of you can be mean, the whole stillborn thing and all.

It won't ruin the show, If they tried to do several seasons w/ the baby yeah that could get rough. Realisticly speaking we are prob talking about ONE season w/ a baby. Season 6. It will still be the tv 14 show it has been, that won't change it. It'll just insert some good new conflicts for them to all deal with.

Kalliope

11-06-2003, 07:25 AM

Or Season 5, if Season 5 would appear (God forbid!!!) to be the last one. I wonder why some people here have so little faith in Farscape writers? If they do it wisely, it won't ruin the show at all. As for me, I really want to see John/Aeryn's baby.

padmeskywalker

11-06-2003, 07:36 AM

Thank you, someone who understands. Couldn't have said it better,

Ariadne

11-06-2003, 10:37 AM

I've always loved this little exchange re: the baby

JOHN: Uh... maybe it's not mine at all.
AERYN: You just won't let that rest, will you?
JOHN: Maybe it has a little ponytail or a teeny-tiny goatee.
AERYN: Maybe.
JOHN: Maybe it has half a metal face on it.
AERYN: Maybe.
JOHN: Maybe it's a royal pain in the ass, eats all the time and farts alot.
AERYN: Then we'll know it's yours.

BTW, I'd love to see a little girl that looks just like Aeryn.

MournsZhaan

11-06-2003, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Ariadne
BTW, I'd love to see a little girl that looks just like Aeryn.

I'd love to see a little girl who looks like the little girl who played Aeryn as a child when Xhalax came to visit Aeryn in the nursery/dormitory or whatever it's called. What a cutie! Her eyes are gorgeous!

Chris

millahnna

11-06-2003, 12:03 PM

Personally I'd vote for a girl if I were voting for Aeryn and a boy for John (the already has a girl thing).

Also I have faith in the creators to take a concept that would destroy most shows (ie baby on baord) and make it work for them by turning it on its ear. Just like they've done with everything else in the show.

I-am-so-Johns-girl

11-06-2003, 12:04 PM

GIRL - a feisty little firecracker too! :wb:

padmeskywalker

11-06-2003, 12:30 PM

JOHN: Uh... maybe it's not mine at all.

Is that something you made up, or a episode I missed???

RydraWong

11-06-2003, 01:01 PM

It's from one of the sequences in John's imagination in "Crichton Kicks".

Ariadne

11-06-2003, 01:23 PM

Thanks Rydra. Actually I should have included the first part of that sequence too:

Aeryn and John are on the beach in John's mind; John is feeling for the baby's kicking.
JOHN: (laughs) There it is. That's the Crichton kick. Boy.

AERYN: Yeah, girls do kick harder.

JOHN: Uh... maybe it's not mine at all.
etc.

(snurched from exodus from genesis transcripts)

padmeskywalker

11-06-2003, 02:05 PM

oh, yeah missed that episode.

Judith

11-06-2003, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by padmeskywalker
It will still be the tv 14 show it has been, that won't change it. It'll just insert some good new conflicts for them to all deal with.

Well, also, a lot of the episodes have been TV PG...no one seemed to have a problem with it before.

(Yes, Padme...I am waffling on the baby issue. :D I guess I don't know what I think. I think it's possible the baby could die, but I also think it's possible that it could live, and it would still be a damn good show either way).

blueassbitch

11-06-2003, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by generic_screenname
I think it should look like Rygel.
:roflmao:

...or maybe it will have a little purple claw, or a little purple birthmark because of the pilot dna. :rollin:

Susana

11-06-2003, 11:22 PM

Kinda the whole Xena and Eve/Livia thing?

Originally posted by auroraSun
I wish it were a girl, but I agree with scaper 989 it will either be a stillborn or die shortly after. I really don't want to see a kid in the show, unless the girl is all grown. And that girl better know how to fight (not innocent). Anyways, if there has to be a child, let it be a girl, my opinion totally.

stellar

11-07-2003, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by Scaper989
Here comes a downer. . .

Okay... there's a difference between downers and beligerent downers. Guess which category your theory falls into. I think that if they went that over the top on Farscape it would be seen through as depressing for depressions sake.

This ain't no kids show, but it's not nihialistic either. Hope is the overriding message and hope is the anti-nihialism.

Susana

11-07-2003, 10:49 AM

John and Aeryn's baby

Susana

11-07-2003, 10:50 AM

It has Aeryn's hair and mouth, John's face, and Pilot's eyes. Isn't it adorable?

talyn3

11-07-2003, 11:20 AM

Ah, the magic of MS Paint.

blueassbitch

11-07-2003, 12:38 PM

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We don't even know if the baby will survive being nuetralized.

Judith

11-07-2003, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by blueassbitch
Small Spoiler For 4.22
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We don't even know if the baby will survive being nuetralized.

I think Padme based this thread on the assumption that it does. Since they're not making new eps, we all get to speculate on completely theoretical issues.

padmeskywalker

11-07-2003, 01:12 PM

Exactly...

padmeskywalker

11-07-2003, 01:13 PM

hey cool, I'm a senior member... wow.

DRD1810

11-07-2003, 03:20 PM

Jirl. :) Don't know why, but it just seems right that they have a little girl. I'm also dying to see anything about this child. :)

Judith

11-07-2003, 03:25 PM

Is spelling girl "jirl" a reference to something I am completely unaware of?

padmeskywalker

11-07-2003, 03:58 PM

typo lol

Judith

11-07-2003, 04:22 PM

No...like everyone uses it, and I feel ignorant! And left out!

Kalliope

11-08-2003, 10:18 AM

jirl power... CBC, I love this episode :D

auroraSun

11-08-2003, 06:54 PM

From Coup by Clam: right before they go into the party/female thing, I think.

AERYN: Sikozu… we have a mission.
JOHN: I'm happy to go.
AERYN: Jirl Power.
RYGEL: Hm?
JOHN: Gi-girl Power! Would you stop speakin' English?!

Judith

11-08-2003, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by auroraSun
From Coup by Clam: right before they go into the party/female thing, I think.

AERYN: Sikozu… we have a mission.
JOHN: I'm happy to go.
AERYN: Jirl Power.
RYGEL: Hm?
JOHN: Gi-girl Power! Would you stop speakin' English?!

Hahaha...I don't remember that.

I just rewatched Thank God It's Friday Again, and when Aeryn said "She gives me a woody"....

I just realized today that the funniest part of that joke is offscreen. Cause at some point he would have had to say "She gives me a woody" about someone, to the rest of the crew for her to get them mixed up.

Darkflame

11-09-2003, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Scaper989

Why? 'Cause Farscape ain't a kid's show. I'd HATE to see a
Will Robinson or Wesley Crusher saving the day. That REALLY
brings a show down.

Kids and space adventures don't mix.

Go ahead and boo me, I don't care. I like science fiction for
adults, not teenagers or kids.

a) It would be a baby, not a teenager.

b) your implying that teenages have worst taste then adults.
Thats simply not true.
If you look at "adult" films, and "adult" computer games, they are almost far worse then "general audience" stuff.
Heck ,with computer games its often the most childish looking that are the best.

Thats not to say teenages would work well on Farscape, mearly that you should sterotype an audience as liking a certain thing.

padmeskywalker

11-09-2003, 02:37 PM

Yeah, that's it. You go girl.

Spedoinkel

11-10-2003, 08:30 PM

Acoordding to Horizons, which I personally take as cannon, it is a boy named JT.

Why? 'Cause Farscape ain't a kid's show. I'd HATE to see a
Will Robinson or Wesley Crusher saving the day. That REALLY
brings a show down.

Kids and space adventures don't mix.

Go ahead and boo me, I don't care. I like science fiction for
adults, not teenagers or kids.

Well we already had a Wesley. His name was Jo'thee. But kids don't always kill the show, e.g. Star Trek
DS9 Jake and Nog though a little usless early on became real character latter. Voyager Naomi was a good character, we only had one ep focusing on her but it worked out well, and she had only a few appearances so we didn't get sick of this partial unnessecary character, who's only purpose was to help give Nelix more character definition. And Echeb (how ever you spell his name) was a good character as well that was rather useful.

Originally posted by divinedaydreams
Oh Oh how about John finds another way back to Earth and sends the child there to be raised by his dad. I like this option, out of the way but still not dead.
I think this is the best approuch. Finding a short window and a way to send the child to be raised by the the Crightons, and we can have John and Aeryn fighting to protect the universe for their child, and also sending messages when they can. Of course this will cause problems when the kid is a teenager but he might be to busy working out the "I am part alien thing."

Judith

11-11-2003, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by Spedoinkel
Acoordding to Horizons, which I personally take as cannon, it is a boy named JT.

I don't see that as part of the canon. Is it O'Bannon who wrote it? Didn't he state that it was just his view and not necessarily the views of the other powers involved in Farscape? That's not canon.

padmeskywalker

11-11-2003, 06:54 AM

Yeah that is possible, remember Star Trek: TNG??? Worf's son was sent to his human parents, but then again, the real mom had been killed, unless they 'kill' Aeryn off, I dont think it would be a smart move. Baby must bond w/mother, age-old tradition... (and they better not kill Aeryn off...)

So, like you said, the baby would not nesseraily been in every episode, and not centered on (until the show comes when someone trys to kidnapp it, but...)

Judith

11-11-2003, 09:49 AM

I really think that...whether we get season five, a movie, or a miniseries, we won't see a lot of the baby, because it won't be born yet. I think the focus (at least as far as Aeryn and John's arcs are concerned) will be on Aeryn being pregnant, and the baby would probably be born VERY close to the end of the show.

padmeskywalker

11-11-2003, 10:00 AM

exactly... remeber Voyager? Baby (tom and Belanna's) was born in the series finale (of course, I would've liked to have seen his dad's reaction to her and the baby, and her dad's reaction...)

Judith

11-11-2003, 10:06 AM

For some reason, I've always felt that, given a season option, the baby would be born a few episodes from the end. That way...it avoids the whole "kid on Moya" thing that some people are worried about, but it also makes us baby crazy people happy.

padmeskywalker

11-11-2003, 10:16 AM

yeah, baby is born, we find a way back to Earth, and show everyone the baby (His family I mean...)

Judith

11-11-2003, 10:43 AM

I don't know...getting off topic a little, I think they might shy away from a totally happy ending. I don't know that he'll make it back to Earth. I could see him deciding not to use wormholes anymore.

Spedoinkel

11-11-2003, 06:35 PM

I read Horizon's as cannon until it has been made irrelevant by the series, which it hasan't yet.

And remember this is Farscape, we really don't get happy endings, we get endings. I would be fine with a sad ending as long as it was the end. Season four was not an ending because there was so much left undone.