New Rumors

[blueaeryn]

Found this on the Kansas Site:

A few weeks ago, I'd met a girl at a gathering I went to, and we were chatting about various things. She'd happened to mention she had a friend in Australia, and so (of course) I asked if he knew about Farscape. She hadn't heard of the show, so I told her about it, and said I was a big fan of the show. She was intrigued, so she said she'd ask him to find out if he'd heard of it.

I pretty much forgot about the whole exchange, but yesterday we all got together again, and so she told me she'd asked her friend.

His response was something like this: "It's really funny that you should ask me that, because my girlfriend (an actress) just got a part on that show!"

my face was then:

I'd never explained the part about the cancellation, so she didn't understand my reaction. To make sure, I asked, "You mean, RECENTLY? She was JUST hired?" And she said "Yeah!" So I told her about the cancellation, and that there were a bunch of rumors about a miniseries or film or both, so that if this were true, it would basically be confirming the rumor.

She has promised to try to find out better details, but the Burbank con may come before I see her next, so I'm not holding my breath for more news right away.

Anyway, so this is just a little more fuel for the rumor mill. Of course "a friend of a friend said" hearsay is not always reliable, so season this one to taste.

however...I feel the wheel a'turning...

chemx

[Riot Chik]

Hope it's true!

[witchdoctor]

Wooo hooo! Lets hope it is true. The last big set of rumors of a mini-series or movie had me excited. If this one is true, then it would seem a mini-series is more likely. I don't think they would be in the hiring stage or a full movie yet. Then again I'm thinking of Hollywood and maybe the Aussies would be more informal or efficient about it.

[vikingscaper]

Interesting. I will hold of on celebration until we actually find out.

[Sunderflame]

:swing: :woohoo: :woohoo: :bump: :bump: :woohoo: :curtsey:

[Judith]

Originally posted by vikingscaper
Interesting. I will hold of on celebration until we actually find out.

Or we could just celebrate that we know EVENTUALLY the show will come back in some form or another.

[padmeskywalker]

*prays it's true* yes, let's all cross our fingers..

You know, Wed or Thurs, I think I'm gonna set up a notify to my cell phone, so the second a mem posts from the con, I will know..


;)

[Mike@Pilots Chamber]

Originally posted by vikingscaper
Interesting.

My thoughts exactly. It could be that they've mistaken it for another Australian sci-fi, but what other Australian sci-fi is there?

On the other hand, I'm not sure they would be into the stage for season 5 where they'd be hiring actors and actresses yet without us knowing. Or would they?

[divinedaydreams]

Maybe its just the biggest surprise ever to be kept secret. After all one hint to us and it would be plastered all over the internet. I think it would take the wind out of the big announcement.

[padmeskywalker]

yes, hope, hope..
As John said "hope is what keeps me alive"

[mfa96]

fingers and eyes crossed...


okay, uncrossing the eyes...that hurts;)


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[VBKatLou]

This was posted on the dom today:

Date: 11/08/2003
From: Maybourne

This was posted on the Stargate board by a regular.
A friend of the poster said that she/her company recieved orders to ship the props back out to the set, though she doesn't know anymore than that.

Just another string of hope to hold on to. Has anyone else heard anything?

MÅYBOURNE OUT!

I posted both of these on the Aussie Mafia board to see if anyone in Oz can confirm.

edited to add: I just checked the Stargate board (should have done that before posting). I don't know about this one. Here's the link - ya'll can decide for yourself:

http://bboard.scifi.com/bboard/browse.cgi/1/5/2741/3041848?

[MediaSavant]

Be careful with these rumors, folks. If it sounds unlikely, it probably *is* unlikely.

The only thing we know for certain BECAUSE IT WAS PUBLISHED IN A TRADE MAGAZINE is that Ben is doing a movie that's filming from late November to mid-December.

The following appeared on alt.tv.farscape yesterday. It sounds good up to a point, doesn't it?:

>>Reliable sources have confirmed a return of the
ground-breaking science fiction drama "Farscape", with
an official announcement of the project currently
scheduled for the weekend of November 14-16, at the
annual Official Farscape Convention in Burbank,
California.

An unresolved cliffhanger left fans of the show in
agonized limbo last year, after increasing production
costs and a very public falling out with the show's
previous home, cable's SciFi Channel, led to the
cancellation of the award-winning series at the end of
its fourth season. Irate fans, to whom SciFi had
previously promised a fifth season, mobilized in
impressive fashion in response to the cancellation,
landing coverage of the show's situation repeatedly in
major media outlets, including CNN and TV Guide, for
over 14 months.

International corporate deals have since led to the
reacquisition of The Jim Henson Company by the
founder's offspring, and the sale of SciFi Channel's
parent company to NBC. There remains little love lost
between the two former partners, and a return of the
show to its original venue was reportedly never
considered feasible by either side. The show's
long-term value as an entertainment asset, however,
could have been severely damaged by the lack of a
clear resolution to storylines left hanging at the end
of its original run.

The production team wanted a way to satisfy their
vocal fanbase; more critically, they needed a way to
protect the long-term value of the asset. Most team
members had already moved on to other projects, making
the reassembling of cast, crew, and the show's massive
sets a financial impossibility. In what critics
consider Farscape's trademark style, however, the
producers will try a new twist to resolve the problem.

Production will begin in December, on a full-length,
animated film, with the entire original cast returning
to voice their characters. The originally planned
fifth season of the show is being used as the basis
for the script, which will resolve a number of major
storylines and provide viewers with an appropriate (if
abbreviated) conclusion to the adventures of John
Crichton and Crew in the Uncharted Territories.

While character-design is still in the early stages,
there are strong indications that the producers will
follow a style based on the popular "Farpark"
parodies. The show used extensive cartoon animation
in an original episode, to great critical effect and
general accolades, and producers express confidence
that fans will similarly embrace the new project.

Distribution of the film was an early concern. The
production partners have no way to effectively bundle
and market the entire asset to broadcasters as a
single package, until the SciFi Channel's contract to
air existing episodes expires. Taking another page
from the fanbase playbook, the production will follow
the risky approach of releasing the animated film
directly to the internet via peer-to-peer file sharing
programs (such as BitTorrent and Kazaa), relying on
the proven fan devotion for distribution.

Some concerns already raised include the potential
disruption of the film's distribution by anti-piracy
vigilantes, who are likely to claim that this endeavor
does not have the endorsement of the "Farscape"
property's copyright holders. However, the production
partners have expressed confidence that wiser heads
will prevail, commenting, "Our fans are smarter than
that. They know the difference between theft by
downloading, and
downloading a fix to hold you over until the DVD is
released. This is our way of saying thanks."

The scheduled release date for the project is April
1st, 2004. <<

[Shipscat]

Up to the point where it's animated or the point where it's on the net?

I don't believe this one at all.

[Dominar of Action]

I'm with you, ships ;)

[generic_screenname]

The scheduled release date for the project is April
1st, 2004 Hmmm...April 1st, eh? That day has some significance, doesn't it? If only I could remember what it is...:rollin:

[grinner]

hmmm... you are probaby right about that g_s

[Selena1]

April Fool's Day anyone?

[CrystalMoon]

Animated films take years to make. Even if there's a way to make an animated film faster, there's no way anyone could get one done in 4 months. It's completely impossible.

[Kalliope]

Someone's trying to sound very professional, but it's a total bulfrell. I don't believe this one.

[NeilGartner]

Originally posted by CrystalMoon
Animated films take years to make. Even if there's a way to make an animated film faster, there's no way anyone could get one done in 4 months. It's completely impossible.

Not to mention such a project done so quickly will look like crap! :grr:

Farscape deserves much better than that. I want to see the actors together again to finish the job, not to watch a two hour return of an all animated 'Revenging Angel' Part 2. :(

Neil

[Quadrifoglio]

Ditto that.

Animatin is great on it's own, but couldn't hold a candle to the original show. Bring it back 'live' or not at all.

Sounds like a lot of BS to me though.

[Judith]

Originally posted by MediaSavant
Be careful with these rumors, folks. If it sounds unlikely, it probably *is* unlikely.

The only thing we know for certain BECAUSE IT WAS PUBLISHED IN A TRADE MAGAZINE is that Ben is doing a movie that's filming from late November to mid-December.



Yeah, but that's not a very long time at all. I don't think his being in another film makes it less possible that Farscape will come back.

If anything, it could get him new fans, who might become interested in other stuff he's been in, who night end up googling Farscape because it just sounds damn interesting, and might find this board!

[Sunderflame]

I know some of you would embrace an animated form of Farscape, but if this true, my heart and faith have just been dashed against hopes of all hopes....excuse me while I go find a cliff to throw myself off of.....walking away with my head bow down with overwhelming grief.........

[Judith]

Originally posted by Sunderflame
I know some of you would embrace an animated form of Farscape, but if this true, my heart and faith have just been dashed against hopes of all hopes....excuse me while I go find a cliff to throw myself off of.....walking away with my head bow down with overwhelming grief.........

Hey,

That article didn't seem right to me...I don't think it's true.

I know that when Farscape comes back, it will be very high quality.

[Shipscat]

C'mon Sunderflame, it doesn't make *any* sense..no producer or any of the PTB are going to believe that an animated version (while not necessarily a bad idea) is going to finish off the series and preserve the franchise! That's ridiculous! Not to mention what Crystal Moon said-it takes a lot longer to produce animation. I believe it took longer than four months just to make RA, and probably longer than that in man hours.

And they wouldn't release anything on the net. You can't make money that way. They couldn't even make money selling Stephen King's stories on the net. This is bogus.

And what's their source supposed to be, anyway?

[Imlego]

An animated series which is published into p2p network? Oh, please. That'd be a way to "take care of the assets", for sure.

Bullshit.

[Sunderflame]

I remember that the main director griped about how much trouble it was to do RA and they almost didn't get through it, due to financially breaking their budget. So of course when they keep bringing up doing an animated project I'm just beside myself. All of here have invested our time, money heart with everything our very being has to give to get Farscape back.
I want my Dargo fix. I want to see the REAL FARSCAPE. I'm actually distraught about this.
You guys that have been here along time know how I get. I'm praying that Henson or Kemper wouldn't do this to the fans.
Especially sence we all have worked so hard putting the show out there. Free Frelling advertising...at alot of our own expense. Would that not be a slap in the face to most of us here?
I'm taking deep breaths and repeating....this is not real...this is not real.....deep sigh....ok...I'm still hesitant......:mad: where's my xanax.....it's around here somewhere...throwing cushions off the couch now....:rollin:

[Shipscat]

Hey, don't worry about it..everyone has their meltdown points. That's what happens when you care about something so much. But I honestly do believe that this rumor (which does not match up with the other rumors-why would they need props shipped for an animated flick?) is just someone pulling our chain. I also honestly believe that some sort of announcement is coming soon. (okay, my definition of soon is some time ago, but still). I Do NOT believe that it will be animation-why would it need to be when all the talent is only a year older and still fairly avaliable?

It makes no sense to put the kind of money into animation that it costs to create, and put it out on the net. And Farpark? Puh-lease.

[Sunderflame]

Our sh0w is coming BACK:hugz: :swing: :bump: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Shipscat]

Hell Yeah!!!!

:aok:

[CrystalMoon]

I don't believe this is a rumor at all. I think it's a hoax. Someone is laughing at us for even discussing this. They got enough of the facts right at the beginning to suck us in, they they turned ridiculous with the notion of the animation. And completely ludicrous when they talked about finishing something that would normally take years in just 4 months.

It's a hoax. I'd bet my last DVD on it. ;)

[MediaSavant]

Originally posted by Shipscat
I don't believe this one at all.

I would hope not.

It's a demonstration of how someone with the right knowledge can construct a rumor that can sound reasonable, yet it is a hoax.

One hopes that everyone question all rumors in the same way. The same goes for the rumors that initiated this.

Everyone wants to hope they are true. But, if something in the back of your head--not your heart--says "this can't be right," then it probably isn't.

[trubador]

So... let me get this straight.... they're gonna try to cram 22 hours of Season 5 script indeas into one 90 minute animation movie, all done in a 4-to-6 week production schedule.....

.......... rrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! :rolleyes:

[grapeshot]

My hope is no more higher now than it has been for the past year. I have always believed that Farscape will be back.


Keep the faith, baby!!

[Sunderflame]

That's Hope and Support all rolled into One Huge Fandom of FARSCAPE Love . You all are the BEST

[generic_screenname]

Originally posted by trubador
So... let me get this straight.... they're gonna try to cram 22 hours of Season 5 script indeas into one 90 minute animation movie, all done in a 4-to-6 week production schedule.....

.......... rrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! :rolleyes:

There are so many things that scream this is fake, for example:

While character-design is still in the early stages,
there are strong indications that the producers will
follow a style based on the popular "Farpark"
parodies.

You can stop reading right there. Nevermind the fact that we're supposed to believe that the show's creators would finish the story arch using South Park lookalikes, but I'm pretty sure they legally cannot do that.

Then there's the release date of April 1, 2004. First of all, that's a Thursday. New video releases are always scheduled for Tuesdays. Second, there's no way in hell they can finish a full-length animated movie by April. And third, it's April Fool's Day, people!

Nice try, but this isn't even close to being legit.

[CrystalMoon]

MS,
Why did you post this if you knew it was a hoax?

It sounds like you're trying to teach us a lesson. First you posted something as a rumor, with the admonition that if it doesn't seem right, it probably isn't. And then you come back later and talk as if you knew it was a hoax all along. Am I reading this right? I want to make sure before I feel insulted. And I apologize if I'm off base.

One hopes that everyone question all rumors in the same way. The same goes for the rumors that initiated this.

The way you worded the above is what made me think you're trying to "teach" us to be careful about rumors.

[thinkum]

Originally posted by MediaSavant
The following appeared on alt.tv.farscape yesterday. It sounds good up to a point, doesn't it?:


As noted above, the referenced piece was originally posted in an entirely different forum. What wasn't noted is the fact that the communal sense of humor in that forum is uniquely warped, even by Farscape standards.

Pop over to Google Groups and have a look at the post in its original context; take into account the specific personalities involved in that discussion, and the effect is quite different. It's only when reposted here without any of that surrounding context, that it approaches being irresponsible rumor.

As several of the posters over in ATF noted, it's obviously a shaggy dog story. Take it in the spirit intended and have a good chuckle.

[CrystalMoon]

MS should be familiar with the humor of ATF. Interesting how the context wasn't conveyed initially.

[akimbo]

Originally posted by MediaSavant
I would hope not.

It's a demonstration of how someone with the right knowledge can construct a rumor that can sound reasonable, yet it is a hoax.

One hopes that everyone question all rumors in the same way. The same goes for the rumors that initiated this.

Everyone wants to hope they are true. But, if something in the back of your head--not your heart--says "this can't be right," then it probably isn't.

I had not commented in this thread earlier because I thought what MS posted was absurd and wasn't going to bump it to the top with an answer (hoping it would fall off the page into oblivion), but I will say this: You may have meant it as a lesson or demonstration, but IMO it's a mean-spirited one.

[MediaSavant]

Originally posted by CrystalMoon
MS,
Why did you post this if you knew it was a hoax?

Because I thought it was obvious it was a hoax. That's what my introductory sentence alluded to it sounding good up to a point.

Not for a second did I believe any one here would believe it.

The denizens at alt.tv.farscape saw through it immediately. I assumed everyone here would, too.

This leads to the following question... why didn't everyone here see it as a hoax as quickly? !!!!

And, yes, maybe I was making a point about believing what you read and how rumor-mongering makes you vulnerable.

[Dominar of Action]

Vulnerable to what? Hope??

[Lindsay White]

Whoah, just reading through this initially, I went from elation to despair! We're not rumour-mongers here or anywhere, we just like to share a little Hope when we can. Given a few seconds to think about it, you can see it's false, but Yikes. Somebody could have a heart attack or at least a panic attack!

[Judith]

Originally posted by MediaSavant
Because I thought it was obvious it was a hoax. That's what my introductory sentence alluded to it sounding good up to a point.

Not for a second did I believe any one here would believe it.

The denizens at alt.tv.farscape saw through it immediately. I assumed everyone here would, too.

This leads to the following question... why didn't everyone here see it as a hoax as quickly? !!!!

And, yes, maybe I was making a point about believing what you read and how rumor-mongering makes you vulnerable.

MS...that doesn't read to me. Either you thought we would take if for a hoax OR you were trying to make a point. Which was it? I mean, especially since thinkum pointed out that you posted this out of context. What's going on here?

[thinkum]

Originally posted by MediaSavant
The denizens at alt.tv.farscape saw through it immediately. I assumed everyone here would, too.

This leads to the following question... why didn't everyone here see it as a hoax as quickly? !!!!


Because context is everything.

(Edited to remove remainder of my original reply, as I've already stuck my oar in enough for one day. - Th.)

[the_cadpig]

Come on guys, give MS a break. I really do believe she meant well here. As you can see from the responses, there were very few who thought that article was legit. And from the wording of her post I took it as a warning about some rumors can sound very real and pull you in. You have to be careful. It's all perception. I wasn't offended. In fact, it made me kinda chuckle cause I could see how ludicrous it was.

No harm, no foul, kay?

We're hopeful Scapers here. That hasn't changed.

~cp

[generic_screenname]

Originally posted by the_cadpig
Come on guys, give MS a break. I really do believe she meant well here. As you can see from the responses, there were very few who thought that article was legit. And from the wording of her post I took it as a warning about some rumors can sound very real and pull you in. You have to be careful. It's all perception. I wasn't offended. In fact, it made me kinda chuckle cause I could see how ludicrous it was.

No harm, no foul, kay?

We're hopeful Scapers here. That hasn't changed.

~cp

I agree. It was obviously a hoax and hopefully people will see the clues that give stories like this away.

I still have hope for the original topic about the person who got a job on Farscape...

[akimbo]

Originally posted by the_cadpig
Come on guys, give MS a break. I really do believe she meant well here. As you can see from the responses, there were very few who thought that article was legit. And from the wording of her post I took it as a warning about some rumors can sound very real and pull you in. You have to be careful. It's all perception. I wasn't offended. In fact, it made me kinda chuckle cause I could see how ludicrous it was.

No harm, no foul, kay?

We're hopeful Scapers here. That hasn't changed.

~cp

I'll agree it was a ridiculous story and many saw through it from the start (some posted and I'm sure some didn't and just lurked).

I'm sure that those who did believe it, however and I think its in very poor taste that she would knowingly do this and not make clear (without allusion) from the start that it was a hoax.

Everyone will have to decide for themselves of course, but I think the posts drip with condescension, not humor.

[akimbo]

My english apparently sucks let me fix a sentence in the last post:

I'm sure that there are those who did believe it, however, and I think its in very poor taste that she would knowingly do this and not make clear (without allusion) from the start that it was a hoax.

[CrystalMoon]

I agree with Akimbo. I saw through it right away. But to find out later that MS knew it was a hoax and posted it as a possible rumor smacks of manipulation. I feel like I've been used in a little experiment to see how quickly I can catch onto things.

I would chalk it up to an honest mistake if I hadn't seen MS post similar nondirect, hint-about-rather-than-come-right-out-and-say-something posts.

[LAScaper]

Originally posted by blueaeryn
Found this on the Kansas Site:

His response was something like this: "It's really funny that you should ask me that, because my girlfriend (an actress) just got a part on that show!"

I'd never explained the part about the cancellation, so she didn't understand my reaction. To make sure, I asked, "You mean, RECENTLY? She was JUST hired?" And she said "Yeah!" So I told her about the cancellation, and that there were a bunch of rumors about a miniseries or film or both, so that if this were true, it would basically be confirming the rumor.

...I feel the wheel a'turning...




MS' post notwithstanding, I'm curious about THIS possibility. I still think it's unlikely that the show's production would be to the point of hiring actors, while no official announcement has been made to the fans. I don't see the Hansens or David Kemper allowing that to happen. What would be the purpose?

Still it's nice to think it could happen.......... :aok:

[thinkum]

Originally posted by LAScaper
I still think it's unlikely that the show's production would be to the point of hiring actors, while no official announcement has been made to the fans. I don't see the Hansens or David Kemper allowing that to happen. What would be the purpose?

Why does it seem unlikely to you? I'm just curious; the two things don't seem related, to me. After all, it's not like the fans' approval would be needed (or in doubt!) for a new FS project... :D

I actually think it would be more the other way around. Nailing down production deals is a tricky business, and I think O'Bannon et al would probably want to get the thing firmly funded, and contracts for the core cast members signed, before setting off our inevitable happy hysteria.

[StarsGoBlue]

There's also a post on the Dom (yeah, I know, but the Scaper in question has been reliable) pointing to an off-the-cuff remark from the Stargate bboard dated 11/7/03.

Apparently someone (or their significant other?) works for the Australian company that is storing the set stuff and props, and let slip *paraphrasing* that the company was called and instructed to ship stuff back to the set (I assume they meant Homebush Bay).

I will spare you the snarkiness of what followed that gem of info; suffice it to say, maybe --- just maybe, there is something in the works.

Then again, it could all be dren. So until something official... :bored:

[Judith]

Originally posted by CrystalMoon
I agree with Akimbo. I saw through it right away. But to find out later that MS knew it was a hoax and posted it as a possible rumor smacks of manipulation. I feel like I've been used in a little experiment to see how quickly I can catch onto things.



Well, yeah. That's my problem too. If someone has a point to make, I think most people would rather he or she come out and say. Granted people might not always listen. But people are less likely to listen when they feel like they've been manipulated.

[Judith]

Originally posted by StarsGoBlue


Then again, it could all be dren. So until something official... :bored:

I guess...I never pin all my hopes on any one rumor. But I like to hear them. It serves to further remind me that I'll get to see new Farscape someday. And also...I like to speculate on what COULD happen.

mmmmmm....gossip

[LAScaper]

Originally posted by thinkum
Why does it seem unlikely to you? I'm just curious; the two things don't seem related, to me. After all, it's not like the fans' approval would be needed (or in doubt!) for a new FS project... :D

I actually think it would be more the other way around. Nailing down production deals is a tricky business, and I think O'Bannon et al would probably want to get the thing firmly funded, and contracts for the core cast members signed, before setting off our inevitable happy hysteria.

Well...

You understand I know nothing about the way these things are put together but:

1. There are legions of Farscape fans. How could the production of the show start up again to the point of hiring non-core actors without the word leaking out? This business is OVERFLOWING with reporters working overtime to find the latest scoup.

2. DK and the Hensens have told us time and again that they will let us know when something definite is in the works. They don't NEED our approval?! :rollin: They KNOW we are waiting!! What would be the purpose of keeping a new Farscape production a secret? :dunno:

3. In any multi-bazillion dollar deal, isn't it important to show that the product is a viable money making opportunity? It is not at all unusual to read about deals that are "in the making". It just seems to me that the fans are proof that Farscape has good money making potential. Backers WANT to see there is a market for the product.

I just don't understand why DK et al would want to hide AUTHENTIC news about a new Farscape production.


Anyway, JMO :aok:

[Judith]

I think that they can show that any Farscape endeavor would make money just by pointing people towards this board. :)

[waltersgirl]

I just don't understand why DK et al would want to hide AUTHENTIC news about a new Farscape production

because if the news wasn't absolutely completely totally and truly solid, ie contracts still being nailed down etc, and something fell through, and the project got cancelled, the effect to the fans would. be. devastating.

[thinkum]

How could the production of the show start up again to the point of hiring non-core actors without the word leaking out?

Pretty easily, I think. Folks that need to know, know, and don't tell. That was always status quo on the Farscape set.

DK and the Hensens have told us time and again that they will let us know when something definite is in the works.

Until the cameras start rolling, it ain't definite. This is a highly volatile business, as evidenced by the timing of the cancellation decision last year.

Frankly, I think one of the worst possible things they could do would be to announce something and get everyone's hopes up, before they've got a rock-solid deal to make the film/mini/5th season/cartoon/whatever.

What would be the purpose of keeping a new Farscape production a secret?

What would be the purpose of saying anything before they had all their ducks in a row?

Remember, we "knew" that we'd been renewed for both a 4th and a 5th season, two years ago.

In any multi-bazillion dollar deal, isn't it important to show that the product is a viable money making opportunity? ... It just seems to me that the fans are proof that Farscape has good money making potential.

That was part of my original point - there's no doubt about the fan excitement. It wouldn't take an announcement to demonstrate that to potential sponsors in neon lights.

I just don't understand why DK et al would want to hide AUTHENTIC news about a new Farscape production.

I guess I don't understand why waiting to make the announcement until they can maximize the bang for their buck constitutes "hiding" news.

[grinner]

Originally posted by waltersgirl
because if the news wasn't absolutely completely totally and truly solid, ie contracts still being nailed down etc, and something fell through, and the project got cancelled, the effect to the fans would. be. devastating. wg probably is correct on this point. The one way to destroy a movement is to put out information and then have everything fall thru.

[StarsGoBlue]

BTW Thinky, I *love* your avatar. So cute!!! :D

[trubador]

I knew this last "rumor" was a hoax because in the previous thread "MORE Rumours Being Mongered", I had stated this in frustration:
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"...Is the next rumor (from yet another reliable source) going to be "FS will be coming back as an 10-ep anime series"???..."
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And, sure enough, here it is.

Personally, the only "rumor" that I've put any sort of stock in is the first "big" one from (was it AnnieW?) who was at the Henson Statue dedication, and got the "drop" from that lawyer. Everything since then, IMHO, has been a made scramble from three camps: (1) from Henson Co. to throw mass confusion to cover up the rumor until they're ready for whatever annoucement they really have planned, (2) some of the more passionate and over-eager fans who overindulge in speculation, and (3) those few Pishers of the world who love to stir the pot.

[waltersgirl]

i sincerely doubt that Henson would waste time putting up smoke screens. they have infinitely more important things to do.

[Judith]

Originally posted by waltersgirl
i sincerely doubt that Henson would waste time putting up smoke screens. they have infinitely more important things to do.

I don't think they would put up elaborate smokescreens. But I do think some rumors may be started intentionally to "test the waters" for certain ideas.

I don't think it's necessarily wrong either. Because...as much as they love this show, and will stand by it, they also have a business to run. They, and the people in their employment, have families to feed.

[waltersgirl]

and how does intentionally spreading misinformation help that in any way?

[Judith]

Originally posted by waltersgirl
and how does intentionally spreading misinformation help that in any way?

Well, one way spreading rumors might help is to discover what format would best serve the return of Farscape...movie, miniseries, or additional season(s). This is not to say that they are necessarily spreading rumors, but I think it's a situation where intentionally placed rumors might be both helpful to them, and completely justified.

It was just a thought. I don't really know much about how movies or tv are made, so I'm aware I may be way off here.

[MediaSavant]

I'm with waltersgirl. I don't see the leadership at Henson intentionally throwing up "trial baloons" even for any of the reasons proposed.

[Mike@Pilots Chamber]

I'm now pondering what our stance should be towards such rumours. As Waltersgirl said, a good way to kill a fandom is to spread such rumours, get hopes up, and then shatter them.

Personally, I'm not believing anything until it is said by the Hensons themselves, or the cast or crew. And I suggest everyone else do the same.

[thinkum]

Originally posted by StarsGoBlue
BTW Thinky, I *love* your avatar. So cute!!! :D

Thanks. :)

(Of course, they're a lot less cute when they're munching on my parents' patio furniture, chewing on car engine wires, and making a mess on the tile outside the front door. I wouldn't be surprised if they're also responsible for running around starting Farscape rumors...)

It's easy for fans to become so invested in the show, and feel so connected to the people behind it, that they find it offensive or incomprehensible to be excluded from the production team's confidences. I think that's an unfortunate reaction.

It's important not to read any motivation one way or another into the team's decisions to release or withhold information. This is their business, after all. If we knew everything that they knew about deal-making, we'd have jobs just like theirs.

And ultimately, I don't think it has any significant impact from the viewer perspective. It's like having a television program interrupted with breaking news that octuplets were just born in Peoria. Does it change your life to know that bit of info *now*, rather than waiting to read the official announcement in the newspaper? Nope. It's wicked cool news, whenever you hear it, and (more importantly) hearing it immediately or later has no impact on when the octuplets will be ready to leave the hospital.

I'm not a patient person...but I have faith that whatever comes next will be worth waiting for.

[Shipscat]

I think we're overthinking this. The hoax was, as someone said, a Pisher type rumor. The other rumors are smoke..and they might mean fire, or they might just be smoke. I doubt they're intentional, and I also think we can survive if there are rumors that dash our hopes. It wouldn't be pleasant, but Scapers as a whole are rational and well-balanced people and know that sometimes things fall through. I'm not talking about what Scifi did-breaking a promise is a whole different degree of disappointment. But I think we can survive a rumor or two. :)

[BritAngie]

Originally posted by thinkum
Thanks. :)

(Of course, they're a lot less cute when they're munching on my parents' patio furniture, chewing on car engine wires, and making a mess on the tile outside the front door. I wouldn't be surprised if they're also responsible for running around starting Farscape rumors...)

It's easy for fans to become so invested in the show, and feel so connected to the people behind it, that they find it offensive or incomprehensible to be excluded from the production team's confidences. I think that's an unfortunate reaction.

It's important not to read any motivation one way or another into the team's decisions to release or withhold information. This is their business, after all. If we knew everything that they knew about deal-making, we'd have jobs just like theirs.

And ultimately, I don't think it has any significant impact from the viewer perspective. It's like having a television program interrupted with breaking news that octuplets were just born in Peoria. Does it change your life to know that bit of info *now*, rather than waiting to read the official announcement in the newspaper? Nope. It's wicked cool news, whenever you hear it, and (more importantly) hearing it immediately or later has no impact on when the octuplets will be ready to leave the hospital.

I'm not a patient person...but I have faith that whatever comes next will be worth waiting for.

Yey thinkum-amen to that. :D

[LAScaper]

Originally posted by thinkum
It's easy for fans to become so invested in the show, and feel so connected to the people behind it, that they find it offensive or incomprehensible to be excluded from the production team's confidences. I think that's an unfortunate reaction.

It's important not to read any motivation one way or another into the team's decisions to release or withhold information. This is their business, after all. If we knew everything that they knew about deal-making, we'd have jobs just like theirs.



I agree with Shipscat. We are putting WAY too much thought into this. But here's two more cents... ;)

It's not that I find it hard to believe fans could be excluded from the production teams' confidences. It's that I don't believe that people are that good at keeping secrets.

Afterall, the reason we're having this conversation is because the girlfriend of some actor that supposedly got hired for a Farscape production (on the other side of the planet), told a complete stranger about the job. I believe that the production team would be equally suspicious about human nature. The inability to keep a secret. To keep the mouth shut. The thousands of wagging tongues (and flying fingers on keyboards) DYING to share the latest tidbit of hot gossip.

I simply believe the production team would be much more suspicious than I am... ;)

[vinity]

I just wanted to ditto the group supporting the idea that we won't hear ANYTHING official untill basically the deal is unbreakable, everything is in line. I have a tiny bit of contact with some Hollywood types {not having anything to do with Farscape} and the impression I get, is deals can look completely solid then fall apart. Prolly happen more than they actually go thru.

I have immense hope and faith that stuff is in the works, but I don't think anyone is sure of an outcome on the details. ITA that an early announcement that falls thru would kill the support.

So, while we read every rumor and have huge ups {OMfrellingGOD it's coming back, I can't breath!} and downs, just realize that this process is MUCH harder for the people directly involved.

[Huh]

I believe that this issue is being overthought on both side. This is a simple rumor that is either true or not. There is no more reason to believe in it than not to believe in it.

Why do you guys think that a project should be top secret, at least to the point that someone who is hired for a bit part on the show should have a sense of confidentiality? Seriously, there is an entire industry centered around rumors of upcoming entertainment projects. If every rumor resulted in a broken deal then Hollywood would not produce a single thing. Why would the fans getting excited about a possible return somehow translate into a deal going bad? Since when is buzz bad for the entertainment industry? No one is going to put a bunch of time and money into a deal and then call it quits because a rumor is circulating on the web.

As far as I am concerned, Henson has not announced anything because there is either nothing to announce at this point, or it just isn't the proper or convenient time. Burbank seems like a good place to make an announcement, but it won't be the end of the world if there isn't one. And if some here pin all their hopes on a few rumors then they are crazy.

Common guys, don't take the fun out of rumors, just roll with 'em. If they come true, then great, if not, well you knew it was a rumor to begin with!

[Zeke]

So is it true or not? :confused:

[generic_screenname]

So is it true or not?

the one about the person getting a job might be true (I'm hoping it is!), but the animated movie one is a huge flaming lie...

[thinkum]

Originally posted by Zeke
So is it true or not? :confused:

So far as I've heard, octuplets have not been born in Peoria.

[Zeke]

"So far as I've heard, octuplets have not been born in Peoria."

I'll get right on that. :)

[Dominar of Action]

:spew:

[justanotherFSlvr]

Originally posted by MediaSavant
Be careful with these rumors, folks. If it sounds unlikely, it probably *is* unlikely.

The only thing we know for certain BECAUSE IT WAS PUBLISHED IN A TRADE MAGAZINE is that Ben is doing a movie that's filming from late November to mid-December.

The following appeared on alt.tv.farscape yesterday. It sounds good up to a point, doesn't it?:


I think MS is due an apology for the accusations thrown her way over this posting.

I just read through this thread (the last time I saw it was before it progressed to MS' post), and I would never take her posting as promulgating a rumor. To me, she clearly, *CLEARLY* intended the quote she posted as an example of a false rumor. How else would you take her opening warning in conjunction with "sounds good up to a point, doesn't it"?

I think that such accusations are a real disservice to someone who just doesn't merit such treatment here.

[grapeshot]

Speak for yourself. I read through these posts, too, and there's always been a condescending tone to her posts, and I see nothing very different in her post in this thread. No one thought that she was promulgating an incorrect rumor. As is often the case with her posts, she makes a valid point, but in a slightly mean way. This confuses almost everybody here as to her true intentions. I can honestly say that she's very much misunderstood here.

[Huh]

Sorry grapeshot, but I at least have to disagree with you. I did not misconstrue her post, or sense any meaness in it. Perhaps it came across as such to others, but not to me. I have read a lot of MS's posts and while they have a certain tone, I don't find them to be any more or less outrageous than many others who post on this board.

[StarsGoBlue]

Well, unless MS has changed her stated opinion, I'm still wondering why someone who has---in their own words, and to my knowledge nothing has changed since it was first openly acknowledged here; if it has then I do indeed apologize---given up months ago because they feel it is highly improbable FS will return, would want to post here at all?

(Aside from the ---paraphrasing to the best of my memory once again--- isn't-it-fascinating-to-watch-you-all factor.)

And if they do, it can hardly be surprising that people might be skeptical of their intentions.

I don't agree that posts in this thread have undeservedly criticized MS. People stated their confusion and/or dissatisfaction with the perceived 'tone' and motive behind such a post.

I probably shouldn't have posted this. And we probably should return to the topic or just let the thread die.