some unlear things

[Pengu]

We all know the events and stories that happened for Crichton, Rygel and Chiana in the 1st episodes of the season but I have little clue about the others.

D'Argo ended up with Jool and Noranti on that planet. How?
Jool and Noranti was on Moya when they went through the wormhole while D'Argo went for Macton in Lolan.
How did they end up together on that planet? Why?
And how did Jool and Noranti got seperated from Moya?
And Scorpius...
What is his part in all this?
He becomes Graysa's pet and gets shot and buried then shows up as Aeryn's savior. Eh?
How did he found her?
And Aeryn? What did she actually do all that time. Do we really know?
And Moya?
What really did she and pilot do all that time?
How did they get away from their passangers?
I guess i can go on but that's just a few questions

[Pengu]

And I have one other question. In "twice shy" Aeryn goes on about she did everything for them to stay together and putting the blame on John for taking Noranti's drug. What a load of dren.
She dumps him and joins the peacekeepers again. Doesn't tell him about the child. She won't let him save her in "promises" cause of he her loyalty to the peacekeepers. She tells him nothing about what she really did as an assassin.

[GARNET]

Pengu that is just Aeryn. She blame John for everything in her life. All the problems, all the feels and love she has now is because of John. Aeryn had her life map out, promote, retirement and dead as she put it in Bad Timing. The enter John and it all gone and she can't and won't give it up. She refered to John as a plague that destroy her life but she keep coming back for more in Green Eye Monster. Even in Look at the Princess Part 1, Aeryn blames him for a kiss she starts so it just Aeryn blame John for the fact she loves him.

On leaving John at the end of season 3, I think she was always planing on coming back in few months once her emotions have stablized. That is were Moya was when Arntesk was fall apart, going to pick up Aeryn. You think with Arntesk going to come unlivably in short time Moya would come back to pick up Noranti and D'Argo and when she hear John, Chiana and Rygel had come too after the Interon scientist sent the call. But she doesn't but instead go out look for Aeryn if I remember if it was Jool or Noranti told them that was what Moya was doing.

I believe Aeryn and Moya had made plans to meet again in few months and that why Pilot was so uneasy about going after her at end of season 3 and why Noranti use hurting Jool as way to get Pilot to do what John ask when the wormhole up and suck them up.

I think in Aeryn's mind had John found away home and left before she came back, then it would be him not her end the relationship because there would be know way for her to get to him. As she said "Do not make me say good bye or meet me stay" as way of saying that it was not over in her mind.

Aeryn has always been this way, it been the relationship on her terms and her time table. That why in Natural Election ending was blow to her, she wanted the relationship to start and John said he wanted more proof that she was really behind it (as well as protecting her from Scorpius) this time. Which was the first time John really stood up to her in the relationship. That why in Twice Shy, she said what she said. She learning English, made nice with his family, tru to fit it, even try to act more atractive to him (with the help of Chiana) and in her mind for him but he was still taking a drug to keep her a bay. That why she frrell him out in Twice Shy.

[B Sharp]

i thought for sure that the title of this thread referred to Ben''s penchant for Shakespeare- as in "items that were un-like King Lear"

Oh well...

[Zantar]

Here is a question imagine you are John's friend. Imagine seeing him go through all of that stuff for Aeryn and the way she treated him. Would you tell him to forget her and move on? I think if i was his friend...id be tempted to. What do you all think?

[auroraSun]

spoilers ahead:










that is just what D'Argo tells him: to forget about Aeryn, cause he will only get hurt again.
Then Again, if I was Aeryn' friend I would tell her to forget him becuase he: killed her, had a fling with someone and then married someone else, destroyed the only home she every knew, is taking drugs, and has a mental clone/"imaginary friend" in his head.

[grapeshot]

A lot of fans were confused by those very same questions.

I look at it this way: Farscape requires you to THINK, and you have to think about these things. If you think about them long enough, you can figure out plausible answers. In my opinion, a lot of these will be cleared up during the soon-to-happen fifth season. I'm sure that there's at least ONE episode to come that's devoted to Aeryn's adventures away from Moya. (After all, it took FOUR seasons before we found out D'Argo's complete back story.) No one really knows anything about Noranti, or Sikozu, either. There's clearly a lot of back story yet left to tell.

On the other hand, a lot of fans said "See? THIS is why Bonnie Hammer is right. Farscape had become very inaccessible to the average fan. No wonder it was canceled."

Other fans said, "Look, it got a little TOO angst-y between John and Aeryn, and it all went over the top as far as I'm concerned. I've had enough!"

I personally have always liked the non-linear and exciting way that Farscape tells its story. And, it sounds like you haven't seen the final 12 episodes of the fourth season, which are among the most exciting ever. They don't answer any of your questions, but they're so good they distract you from them.

[realmsend]

Yeah, a lot of episodes season 4 left me scratching my head.

I remember thinking after watching Chrichton Kicks "so much for trying to get new viewers with all the cheezy advertising".

I thought it was funny how they said this season would be lighter...but to me it felt so much darker. Epsecially "Promises"--on of my favs.

But I ultimately I really dug it. It just took 2 viewings of every episode to make sure I really got it.

Also it made me hate Aeryn who came across as a total liar.

[blueaeryn]

Aeryn is not a liar. That is the problem with some people, they see her as human and expect her to have human emotions, when she is not and does not.

Aeryn was born a Peacekeeper, as she has said on among many. She never knew what it was like to have a real family and there was never any nurturing or fosterings of love. She has a faint memory of a battle weary woman coming to her and telling her she was her mother, but then 20 years later that same woman wants to kill her.

After the death of John on Talyn Aeryn just felt numb. She had finally given herself freely to this man and the hand of fate handed her a terrible blow by killing him. She was lost and fell back into the one thing she had faith in, her training as a Peacekeeper.

Then she returns to Moya, a place she really doesn't want to be, and comes face to face with the man she just watched die in her arms. This John still has memories of their love and he has been waiting for her return hoping to find the Aeryn that left, when she is no more.

Then the embark on Crichton's plan to stop Scorpy and finally have to blow up the place she was raised, killing people she knew. Amidst that she discovers she is pregnant. Yet another life she will feel responsible for, and she feels she didn't do such a great job with John Crichton since he died. She, from almost the very beginning she felt the need to protect him, after all her mind, he was a fragile human in this strange universe. Adding to her pregnancy is that she doesn't know who the father is. She knows that if it is John's child, no matter he conceived it, the remaining John would want to care for her, want her to stay. She can't emotionally handle that. It is why she tells John in DWTB it is too late and she has to go.

So, she leaves. A good decision? In the long run no, and she acknowledges that in A Prefect Murder. Running away was not the answer, but at the time it was the only option she felt she had.

I believe Arnessk was a meet-up point. Pilot was taking Jool to her people, she had found maps to the dig sight. John and Noranti were to go along for the ride and the others could come there if they finished what they were doing.

I think Aeryn was headed to Arnessk and was found by Scopry, who was still on the planet after the others left, and then met up with Moya. Hence the big reunion scene in Promises.

In Twice Shy Aeryn says John has been cheating because he was taking the drug to mask the feelings he was having. She tells him she did what he asked, because she was working to get them back together trying to prove to him she was staying for good, but he wasn't facing the situation by taking the drugs.

Yeah, Aeryn didn't tell him about the baby and she did confide in Chiana first instead of him, but she was lost and unsure about what his reaction would be. She made a mistake and she paid for it. John took the cowards way out, he didn't face what they were going through because he started relying on the drug.

Both of them were in the wrong and it isn't right to point fingers at just one.

[realmsend]

Like I said she came across as a liar.
Whether she was or wasn't was sort of left open to debate for a while.
They kind of kept you guessing for a while.

Which admitatedly made the shows compelling!

The show often takes the perspective of John, so when he saw her as a liar--the audience kind of did too. Thats mostly the result of Aeryn's unwillingness to talk openly about her actions

[Zantar]

Im not pointing figures at either one, im just saying if i was there friend id probably tell them to forget about the relationship at one point as it was causing each of them way to much pain.

[padmeskywalker]

I can see both POV here... realisticly though as someone said, Aeryn is NOT human, and can't be judged on those terms. John knew this and should've seen that it would not be easy. Also, as anyone can see, he has no hime, she has no home, so in that respect they are perfect together. They are 'family' and will have one another, if they spilt... they are alone

Not to mention the baby to consider now...