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grinner
11-14-2003, 06:56 AM
Man Fined for Scratching While Driving


By Associated Press

November 13, 2003, 1:53 PM EST

MADRID, Spain -- Highway police who stopped a driver they believed was using his cell phone erred twice. First, he was just scratching his ear. Second, he was a lawyer.

Tomas Valdivielso showed the two officers that the last call from his phone went out the night before. The duo huddled, then came back and fined him $70 anyway.

The charge: driving while "holding his ear with his right hand in a permanent fashion."

"Am I on hidden camera?" Valdivielso recalls saying, according to Thursday's edition of the newspaper El Mundo.

The flap happened Nov. 7 while Valdivielso drove into Madrid on a busy highway in the morning rush hour.

Valdivielso filed a 10-page appeal that El Mundo praised as a work of tongue-in-cheek art.

The appeal says the fine failed to say which ear was being held, or even how many ears Valdivielso has, and argues that Spanish law does not bar scratching them while driving or oblige motorists to pull over to do it.

Valdivielso wrote: "To presume that this unconscious act cannot be performed would lead us to the absurd situation of having to wait to stop the vehicle in a place that does not pose a danger for other occupants of the road in order to scratch, by which time, depending on how bad the itch is, I probably would have crashed before finding an adequate place to stop, or the itch would have gone away, reducing the pleasure I get from scratching." oh my... and might I say... whoops. What a mistake those police officers made.

BlackThorn
11-14-2003, 07:04 AM
As long as the guy wasn't scratching the way my dog does (hind foot stuffed in ear,) what's the problem?

trinamick
11-14-2003, 09:31 AM
Better he was scratching his ear rather than south of the border - they could have fined him for pubic indecency! :D

Jeff O'Connor
05-29-2004, 08:52 PM
This is pretty sad.

Third EYe
05-29-2004, 08:55 PM
they would have shot him here.

Jeff O'Connor
05-29-2004, 08:55 PM
they would have shot him here.

Nice place you live in... :shrug:

faustus
05-29-2004, 09:10 PM
Um i need to say this, how stupid are people?

Jeff O'Connor
05-29-2004, 09:12 PM
This stupid.

Third EYe
05-29-2004, 09:15 PM
This stupid.


i've seen stupider

Jeff O'Connor
05-29-2004, 09:16 PM
Hmm...

This stupid, then?

faustus
05-29-2004, 09:19 PM
yeah getting closer

Jeff O'Connor
05-29-2004, 09:19 PM
:aok:

faustus
05-29-2004, 09:22 PM
I said closer you wern't there yet :aok:

Jeff O'Connor
05-29-2004, 09:23 PM
How is this... this stupid!? ^_^

faustus
05-29-2004, 09:28 PM
yeah you got it. i'm happy now:)

Jeff O'Connor
05-29-2004, 09:29 PM
:aok:

^ Has probably posted more :aok: posts than anyone else on FMD...

faustus
05-29-2004, 09:31 PM
possably :aok:

soyarma
05-29-2004, 10:06 PM
Only in Europe

Does anyone get the feeling that maybe Europeans have too much time on their hands?

Jeff O'Connor
05-29-2004, 10:07 PM
Some of them, it seems, as of late...

grinner
05-30-2004, 12:58 AM
damn... this was brought up from the depths...

soyarma
05-30-2004, 02:42 AM
LOL... I didn't even realize how old the original post was... what did someone do, search for the word scratch?

grinner
05-30-2004, 02:46 AM
you would be surprised at some of the article that I have posted here...

BaseLine
05-30-2004, 06:10 AM
Only in Europe

Does anyone get the feeling that maybe Europeans have too much time on their hands?

This is nothing what happened in Spain. Last week, in Schagen (a town nearby where I live) a student was pulled over by police. He was asked for his papers, but he couldn't find it because it was his dads car. He knew his dad had the papers somewhere in the car, so he asked if he could call home to ask. The officers said he could do that. While he was dialing they asked him to drive the car back a bit, so there was more room for other cars. When he did that, they gave him a fine of 140 euros, because it's not allowed to drive a car and use a cellphone. And it turned out his papers were also not in order, so that was an extra 50 euros, so that made it a total fine of 190 euros.

This is not a single event. This happens frequently. Last week in Amsterdam some tourists driving around stopped near Central Station to ask the road to 4 (four!!) police officers who just stood there. Before the officers gave him directions, they fined him because he wasn't allowed to stop there.

And at the same time there was a prisoner (convicted for murder) who didn't came back after his weekend leave (they get that when they behave in prison). The criminal also visited his sister who got suspicious and called the police. The police said they had released him. She knew he couldn't have been released so she went to the media. After the media gave attention to the matter, the police found out the sister was right and that he was missing for two weeks. In a similar case there was another criminal missing. He decided to rape a little girl and got caught in Germany.

I loathe the police over here.

soyarma
05-30-2004, 10:10 AM
wow... they sound more corrupt than the criminals. Here that backing up cellphone bit wouldn't fly cause its entrapment.

BaseLine
05-30-2004, 11:06 AM
wow... they sound more corrupt than the criminals. Here that backing up cellphone bit wouldn't fly cause its entrapment.

The guy is now going to court. Entrapment is also prohibited over here, so I guess he makes a good chance for not paying that fine. The reason why the police writes so many fines is because they have to meet a certain quota at the end of the month. The police is not really helping the citizen anymore, they're making money of him.

AgentSun
05-30-2004, 11:16 AM
ohh geesh speaking of quota. here, at the end of quota time, you better watch out how you drive on major roads. the county police will catch up right with you if you're speeding. ugh. its sickening sometimes. and they never catch the people who are really doing something wrong, like swaying in and out of lanes or swaying into another lane and then back because they're doing something else, like eating in the car...