IGN say Miniseries is 100% certain [Archive]

LadyCrais

11-14-2003, 11:00 PM

sources have also confirmed that the new project will be independent from the Sci-Fi Channel

Well it's good to see someone finally address this issue. I have figured there is precisely zero chance of anything further developing from this mini-series/movie scenerio if Skiffy is involved. So maybe there is hope for a much longer future of Farscape afterall.

auroraSun

11-14-2003, 11:00 PM

the article says Henson would not confirm, take it as a RUMOR. Richard said there was NO NEWS as of yet (went to con). Please be patient and untill Henson or an OFFICIAL word is put out, be careful about the rumors.

Darkflame

11-14-2003, 11:04 PM

Dude, a rumour is something someone told you ver someone else.

THIS IS IGN, and HUGE farscape return skeptic, and a MAJOR internet site saying that the Austrailian studios have reopened.

This isnt just another "rumour".

The only remote possiblity is Jim Henson are using the same studio to film another project...highly unlikely i think.

And as for not confirming, they didnt denigh it either.
As we most companys, they cant "casualy" say anything, they need proper press release's to be made.
So there is a delay between things happening and things being announced.

Veauger

11-14-2003, 11:14 PM

*ugh*.... IGN.

I feel like I just ate an extra large helping of grulak (or whatever the heck its called).

Oh and hi again, all. Been away for a while. Nice to be back.

Kurt_eh

11-14-2003, 11:36 PM

Crossing fingers, waiting for the official announcement.

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Kaerie

11-14-2003, 11:37 PM

Heh..I work for IGN, as Senior Editor (basically assistant to the boss) of their Vault Network section. They're not a news organization, they're in the entertainment business...that means that they can and do post rumors - all the time, in fact.

That doesn't mean this one won't turn out to be true (I actually believe that it is true, personally) - but at this point, it is a rumor still, and will remain so until officially confirmed by whatever means the Henson's decide upon - probably the upcoming press conference.

Until official word is out, anything published anywhere, no matter how reliable the source is, is still a rumor.

I gotta say, I love rumors, though. They really keep hope alive and get the blood pumping, don't they? :D

Veauger

11-14-2003, 11:44 PM

The articles over at IGN (about FS) have traditionally been so negative that I distrust what they say almost out of reflex now. I suppose they just concentrate on whatever will get the best reaction -- can't blame them for that, its a business after all.

Rowsdower

11-15-2003, 01:27 AM

Veauger is dead right. This "article" was written by someone named KJB, who spent a great deal of time and energy flaming Farscape fans when the show was cancelled last year. I wouldn't put it past this misfit to make something up just to get everyone riled up and then point at us and laugh.

VBKatLou

11-15-2003, 04:59 AM

I remember the KJB "experiences" both last year and last summer. His articles last year were a bit snarky and IIRC, our own tempers were a bit high. He seems to be a regular columnist at ICN and I don't think his writings are designed to trick us. I think they're designed to get a high hit count on his page and for the ICN site.

The way I look at it, every time the word Farscape is in print, it's free promotion.

Skat510

11-15-2003, 06:46 AM

I'm taking IGN with a grain of salt myself BUT I wonder if there was a project independent of skiffy, who would pick it up? would skiffy still air it? hmm

I gotta say, I love rumors, though. They really keep hope alive and get the blood pumping, don't they?

Yeppers!!

Darkflame

11-15-2003, 07:09 AM

The fact that IGN was sooo anti-Farscape return makes it MORE LIKELY this is true, not less you fools. (as i said at the start).
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And, IGN when IGN post rumours they say its a rumour.
Sorry, but you can hate IGN for lots of reasons (i do too), but i cant think of one case of them posting missleading information as fact.
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And im sorry, but i really think the impact of Farscape on their hit count is pretty minor.
IGN is still mostly a gameing site with bits pasted on really. The Gamecube section i imagined gets the most hits, because it started as just a N64 game site and nothing else.

heck, if this is just a stunt to get hitcounts why isnt it even on their front page?

Twich

11-15-2003, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by Darkflame
The fact that IGN was sooo anti-Farscape return makes it MORE LIKELY this is true, not less you fools. (as i said at the start).
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And, IGN when IGN post rumours they say its a rumour.
Sorry, but you can hate IGN for lots of reasons (i do too), but i cant think of one case of them posting missleading information as fact.
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And im sorry, but i really think the impact of Farscape on their hit count is pretty minor.
IGN is still mostly a gameing site with bits pasted on really. The Gamecube section i imagined gets the most hits, because it started as just a N64 game site and nothing else.

heck, if this is just a stunt to get hitcounts why isnt it even on their front page?

Darkflame...everyone here has been dealing with rumors since day one. We've all heard them. We've heard a lot of them from IGN itself and we've been disappointed. We are NOT saying THIS is a rumor, but most people here would rather wait until we hear it from Henson. That does not, in any way, shape or form cast any doubt or slams upon you, but neither does it allow you to refer to us as fools. Please respect the fact that others may want to take it with a grain of salt and don't take it personally.

grinner

11-15-2003, 07:55 AM

Hey Darkflame... take it down a notch. Foreverything good you say about IGN... I can counter with negative things about it. Don't call us fools for not following blindly what IGN posts... because many of us remember the disdain they placed upon us at the begining.

This is all rumor and conjecture UNTIL someone from HENSON says otherwise.

Mickie

11-15-2003, 08:10 AM

Guys Please,

Just wait a little while longer. Remember what Red said, baring catastrophe we'll have hard and fast answers soon enough.

Given that this is Farscape we are talking about, everyone should put there energy into thinking non-catastrophic thoughts :meditate:

Vampgrrl

11-15-2003, 08:21 AM

I believe this to be true not just via IGN but *cant say any more*

What I want to know if SciFi didn't bankroll this who did?
If what DK said was true after FS cancellation, the start up costs are at minimum $20 million and that's pretty steep even for Henson.

jpinMoya

11-15-2003, 08:49 AM

Yeah if this is independent from Skiffy, I would think we would hear where the US rights have gone.

LadyCrais

11-15-2003, 08:50 AM

Agreed Vampgirl. Who's behind this is by far the most interesting part of the equation to me. DK's always said it didn't make sense to spend the start-up money for anything less than a full season, or at least that's how I've interpreted his ramblings about the money. It's just way too much for just a few episodes a la a mini-series. So you really got to wonder who is footing the bill. Without some possiblity of a continuation so the investment isn't wasted, it just doesn't make a lot of sense. I think where this airs is going to extraordinarily important to how much momentum for new seasons can be built. I know we've got more Farscape. But I really, really want to know WHERE that Farscape is going to be aired. Not on Skiffy is the one thing I've seen in this IGN piece that I haven't run across elsewhere.

Off topic, I got one of my TV news blurbs in the email the other day with just the beginnings of each story, and one of them had a headline to the effect of "Henson Project rolls at Spike TV". I about had a heart attack when I read it, thinking it was the big news. But apparently it's some comedian named Henson who's getting a show.

vhsiv

11-15-2003, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by LadyCrais
sources have also confirmed that the new project will be independent from the Sci-Fi ChannelWell it's good to see someone finally address this issue. I have figured there is precisely zero chance of anything further developing from this mini-series/movie scenerio if Skiffy is involved. So maybe there is hope for a much longer future of Farscape afterall. I've been wondering the same thing myself. Even if they get the cameras rolling on this thing, who's going to broadcast it? And with what *guarantees*? Is this new miniseries - or whatever - going to be part of a syndication package or what?

Maybe it's only my own interest in the 'fine print'...

Vampgrrl

11-15-2003, 08:57 AM

Well I doubt it's syndicated exactly. If I had a guess and they used outside financing, I'd guess Paul Allen of Charter Comm, TechTV...hell I could really see him buying b/c he liked it and to run it on TechTV (if TechTV got a 1.0 it would be the best rating they have ever gotten...ever).

TechnoBoY

11-15-2003, 09:32 AM

I wanna know who it is so I can mail stuff to them!

Shipscat

11-15-2003, 09:32 AM

It's a rumor-and it doesn't sound like they know anything we don't. We know it's a rumor because the official press conference hasn't happened, so by definition, it's not fact yet.

I too, am extremely curious as to who's financing and where it's going to be aired. I can't wait to find out.

And Lady Crais, perhaps (and this is pure speculation) the miniseries and the movie rumors are both true. Remember, the movie's been being talked about for a while, and one assumes they have some ideas for that that's outside the story arcs...and the miniseries could finish off a lot of what's going on now. If that was the case, then it could easily justify twenty million in start up costs.

Darkflame

11-15-2003, 10:42 AM

Excuse, me, but err...where in this forum did you "already know" they reopened the austrilian studios?

There is different scales of truth, if IGN post the official press release, you could still not believe them.
If you see the press release on the official site, well, it could have been hacked.

Each is progressively more likely to be true, but to see it as black/white deffiniton is just wrong.

Originally posted by grinner
Hey Darkflame... take it down a notch. Foreverything good you say about IGN... I can counter with negative things about it.

Where did i say good stuff about IGN?
I only said they were reliable, if you have some examples of things they have posted as fact that arnt true, list them.

Originally posted by grinner
[B Don't call us fools for not following blindly what IGN posts... because many of us remember the disdain they placed upon us at the begining.
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I dont mean offensively but come ON..i have made the same point 3 times now.

YES IGN was ver anti-farscapes return.

You can look at the history of Farscape articals too see that skepticism.
As I said earlier, I had an email conversion with the writer of those articals to that effect too. I know very well what your talking about.

HOWEVER, the fact that they didnt think farscape would return wouldnt not make them likely to lie or boast rumours in fathor of its return.
Quite the opersite, if they have been preaching it wont return, they wouldnt say it is unless they have extreamly good reason too.
(after all, who would admit they are wrong till they have to?)

In fact, if IGN hadnt been so negative as to farscapes prospects I
wouldnt have put so much weight on this artical.

witchdoctor

11-15-2003, 10:58 AM

Dark flame, personally, I think we are going to get our show back and this looks like the time, but I am still going to treat the IGN story as rumor. There have been so many emotional highs and lows in the past few days and even some of the rumors didn't pan out in the past few weeks and months, that I am going to wait for an official announcement. I do believe that Farscape is coming back and probably IGN is correct about a mini-series coming, but for my own sanity and to keep from burning out, I have to tone down the exuberance until its official. Though in retrospect, some of the past rumors that didn't pan out may have been early harbingers of what is surely coming very soon.

grapeshot

11-15-2003, 11:04 AM

Say, I'm with darkflame on this. IGN was v. cynical about the chances of Farscape returning -- as were A LOT of other people, including some who post regularly ON THIS SITE! But that doesn't mean these Farscape rumors are wrong.

and Twich,
Darkflame...everyone here has been dealing with rumors since day one.
I have to say I don't recall a lot of rumors about Farscape returning in the first 10 months of this campaign. I don't recall ANY rumors to that effect until IGN published one on July 15th. To me, it looks like they may have been right on the money with that rumor.

I agree, nothing is certain until it is confirmed by Henson. And even then, I'd say wait until filming actually starts. And then? Let's see if something actually gets broadcast. Heck, if you want to take the glass is half empty position, why, you could be a stubborn non-believer until the very end.

DangerWillRobinson

11-15-2003, 11:09 AM

I will take any Farscape I can get, but how can a six hour mini-series be profitable to the people who fund it.

Remember when DK said that to get the series back into production you needed to rebuild set hire all the people again, rent studio space...etc..etc. Didn't he say the start up cost could be millions? Then you just add what the mini-series cost to make to the 88 episodes in the can already. Someone must have deep pockets because this wont turn a profit for awhile I would think.

But whoever it is THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Twich

11-15-2003, 11:11 AM

A miniseries can always lead to more. It can be a jumping off point for anything. You never know.

RydraWong

11-15-2003, 11:27 AM

but how can a six hour mini-series be profitable to the people who fund it.

Easily - there are plenty of stand-alone miniseries made and sold. And a lot of them are made and/or distributed by Hallmark, who make a lot of their money with miniseries (they were behind Merlin, Dinotopia, Gulliver's Travels, etc. etc. etc.).

So I'm wondering if they're involved here. They are known to have very deep pockets, have shelled out tens of millions on miniseries in the past, have been involved in making Farscape from the start - and Rockne mentioned them in his hints at ToBeCONtinued.

I guess we'll find out what's really up when that official announcement comes <fingers crossed>, but my point is that in financial terms it wouldn't necessarily be crazy at all.

It would require whoever-it-is to feel pretty sure that the show would continue to get an audience in re-runs and on DVD and video years down the line - but I think that's what the fan campaign has been busy demonstrating :D.

LadyCrais

11-15-2003, 11:31 AM

Excuse, me, but err...where in this forum did you "already know" they reopened the austrilian studios?

I'll leave it to someone else to give you links, but it's been floating around for at least a couple of weeks now. It may have been IGN who started that particular rumor (I don't remember the sources), but certainly not with anything published recently.

And really and truly, I wouldn't take ANYTHING printed by ANYBODY over words directly spoken by someone directly involved with Farscape to someone directly from SaveFarscape.com. eg. Raelee Hill's comments come to mind, and the emphasis is and continues to be, nothing is set in stone yet. So for IGN to claim otherwise is to know more than the people involved do. Likely? I didn't think so. Speaking of which, Raelee's who provided the confirmation to earlier rumors that a studio is indeed in the process of rebuilding the sets. Apparently the original studio from the first year. IGN a day later could easily simply have read our board and used that as their confirmed source. She also said that the actors are on hold and that Ben has signed a contract. So you see, we, in fact, know more than IGN published because Raelee told us specifically which studio was being used and a bit about the actors' status. There are people all over the board giving extremely specific directions to the studio so that any Aussies will be able to do a driveby.

Red

11-15-2003, 11:45 AM

Hey guys. Checking in from con.

Look, this is just like every other bit of news we've gotten - no better or no worse for the source.

I personally can't say anything about the subject of the rumor, but I won't post any information like this to the main page of the site, regardless of the source, because this is something I don't consider confirmed until Henson has confirmed it. That's just my own personal stand on the issue of this or any other rumor. I'm waiting for Henson.

You all know something's going on - it would be silly to deny that. I just have to ask that you have a little patience because, as I said, barring something catastrophic, you'll know for sure how things look in just a few more days.

Kaerie

11-15-2003, 12:03 PM

Thanks Red :)

I think that's all any of us are saying - just because it's IGN reporting it doesn't mean it's true. And just because it's IGN reporting it doesn't mean it's NOT true.

Once Henson confirms it, we'll have the party of our lives - and then go back to work. If Henson (heaven forbid!! Ack!!) denies it, we'll...well..go back to work.

If anyone is investing their own ego into believing or defending the rumor (even though I don't think it needs defending..just a caveat that at this point it IS still a rumor), I'd suggest a step back. That's a good way to give yourself a heart attack or an ulcer or something. We have better uses of our time and energy! :rollin: