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[SilverKat]

They say it's "Breaking News"

"In The News: Farscape, Box Office and More!
Monday, November 17, 2003
Claudia Black and Ben Browder

SO NEAR, SO FARSCAPE: Frellin' awesome!! As reported in next week's TV Guide magazine, the Jim Henson Company is producing a four-hour Farscape miniseries that will tie up the loose ends left dangling when the cult hit was prematurely axed last year by Sci Fi Channel. "It's an epic conclusion to the series," confides a source. The project — which will reunite leads Ben Browder and Claudia Black — will start shooting in December in Australia. Since the telefilm is unlikely to air on Sci Fi, word is it may be sold into syndication. So there!"

But again it sounds like all the other rumors. Why must they torment us if they have no REAL proof?!

[Lucky]

That is amazing! I have had so many people tell me that Farscape was never coming back and that it was a lost cause. It feels good to know that we were able to make a difference. :)

[LiLOrion]

That'll be a heck of a wait though wont it?

I mean if someone buys the syndication rights since now the series has a proper ending...or however "proper" a Farscape ending could be... :)...I would assume they would run the series from the beginning and not show the mini-series first.

Its awesome news regardless of course. :aok: :D Although they are still quoting a "source".

[Vampgrrl]

4 hour mini series still seems strange to recreate Moya and all the money involved..for just 4 hours of syndicated TV.

[TechnoBoY]

Thats what I was thinking too! Why spend all that money on only 4 hours? :D

Oh here is a screenshot.

http://members.cox.net/very_loyal_scaper/tvguide.jpg

[mysticalseeker]

I just want to know how they plan to tie up all the loose ends in 4 hours?? There are a LOT of story arcs that are hanging loose. I hope its a "stand alone" mini series and we get at least season 5 at a later date. Then season 6, 7 and 8 :D

But anything new is good. Just more is better :rollin:

[Under A Dying Sun]

Don't get me wrong, on one hand I am glad FS is returning. However, i am not pleased if the rumors are true to conclude the series. I would rather have the original ending than something that ties it all up in a pretty bow.

If this is an attempt to appease the fans and not to garner a new audience i will be severly dissapointed.

i still want new seasons. How can they possibly tie up everything in 4 measly hours. I hope there is something we all don't know about yet. And yes, I do understand that this *may* lead to further seasons.

[xaysana10]

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

Still happy to see more Farscape

[NeilGartner]

Don't forget that Raelee Hill also suggested that they may be doing a movie as well but nothing was set in stone. Right now anything is possible. :D

Neil

[Mike@Pilots Chamber]

4 hours. Just nice enough to finish up a few of the loose plots. Not all of them of course, but most of the major ones - the whole "Bad Timing" death scene, and then probably do a bit of meddling with the Scarrens. Hopefully leading on to a new season.

[SilverKat]

Of course, all this is STILL just speculation. The real party-ing will come with an official announcement from Henson (and oh boy, will we be un-bearable then! especially to Skiffy *eg*).

But the rest of the big picture is that No Matter What Happens, we have done a GREAT thing! Media about Farscape, a full fourteen months after the cancellation announcement, is Amazing! The Hope, the belief, that there COULD be more Farscape says what a remarkable campaign this has become.

And of course we'd all love one or two or twenty more seasons. But a four-hour miniseries is better than the dust-bunnies-under-the-bed that we had this time last year.

ANY Farscape is better than no Farscape.
...and besides, you know they're just building up for that feature film! ;)

[ipimen]

Originally posted by Under A Dying Sun
[B]Don't get me wrong, on one hand I am glad FS is returning. However, i am not pleased if the rumors are true to conclude the series. I would rather have the original ending than something that ties it all up in a pretty bow.

I don't think they can tie up all lose ends, and i don't think they intend to. Maybe they also want to leave the door open for a new season eventually, or maybe more miniseries or feature or more farscape.

If this is an attempt to appease the fans and not to garner a new audience i will be severly dissapointed.

i have never felt that henson's attitude was to appease the fans, they have always been grateful for our attentions and all the things we have done. Maybe if this was scifi i would think they are trying to appease the fans.

Anyway, they should know by now that there is nothing that would satisfy us besides more and more farscape :D

[Mickie]

A four episode wrap up would also make any potential syndication packages more valuable. I really doubt that this will be the true end of farscape. Not with Henson et. al. as dedicated to the series as they've shown themselves to be.

[Under A Dying Sun]

i hope you guys are right. :D

[atlantagirl]

And I can't see any business, no matter how much it loves a particular product, doing anything as expensive as this is going to be "just to appease the fans." They have to see this as a way of advancing their franchise.

We'll know the official story soon. (PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!) Until then, I'm not going to get upset about what we think we don't have or too excited about what we think we do have. :pace:

[RydraWong]

something that ties it all up in a pretty bow.

Whether this is a conclusion or not, when has anything on Farscape ever been tied up in a pretty bow? :D

[Under A Dying Sun]

'epic conclusion' just irks me.

[SilverKat]

Well, this IS Farscape. We know DK will make us laugh and weep and scream and cheer. In Crighton's own words "it's never easy," and you can bet your last brandar tile that there won't be any pretty bows in sight. But we'll get our ending.

[Angus]

'epic conclusion' just irks me.
:dunno:

More Farscape can mean more Farscape. They've got to wrap up some of the big huge threads left hanging so that there's some sort of whole package for syndication or whomever might pick it up.

One big package, with resolution, is more attractive than 88 episodes and a honking cliffhanger. More attractive to potential networks and more attractive to new viewers.

And depending on how a mini-series is done, if it is appealing to potential networks and potential viewers, just looking at the entertainment industry as it is now, they'll milk it for all it's worth and that will equal more Farscape.

To get there, a first step has to be taken and it has to be made into a pretty package for networks. That's the first thing on the priority list to continuing the franchise.

[RydraWong]

And hey, four hours is the same length as two movies. Since when is that chopped liver? :D

[RescueFarscape]

Welcome, Angus and SilverKat! :hi:

And Angus, very well said.

Where TV Guide sees a 'conclusion,' we see new beginnings. As has been stated many, many times over the past few days, This Farscape can lead to more Farscape.

We just need to keep (or as the case may be, START! ;) ) writing letters, converting viewers, keeping the pressure ON.

[kechara420]

Originally posted by Under A Dying Sun
'epic conclusion' just irks me.
Yeah, but remember, those are most likely the TVGuide writer's words, not Henson's, DK's or those of anyone else involved with the project. They want it to sound jazzy and momentous ...

And I have to say that I agree with others here ... this 4-hour mini (if that's what it really turns out to be) is likely a stepping stone towards more Farscape. A network would want to hedge bets, and might green-light a mini with an option of expanding to another season if the mini does well.

[Sunderflame]

I'm frantic about this....but very optimistic..It seems a lifetime ago we've been fighting to get this dream come true...waiting isn't easy..but we never lost hope...
oooomy better take a breath....I can't hold it that long..That's really dying to get the show back.
http://www.emotipad.com/newemoticons/Tempted.gif:thud:

[Sunderflame]

and who has a darn neilson box...those darn things...that's what did us in with skiffy. can you see them now....tragic...hahhaha

[Under A Dying Sun]

seriously, the neilsen system needs to be upgraded with more accuracy. i understand that its more expensive but its simply not fair. for instance, my girlfriend works on "arrested development" on fox. its a great smart show. i suggest everyone check it out. sundays after malcolm. still even so, it doesn't matter unless you have a nielsen box. 5,000. bah. we need 20 million. its too bad quality shows get bounced because of stupid nielsen. the show gets nothing but critical acclaim as well.

ps - i figured it was just tvguide saying 'epic' as well.

[Hmpf]

Who knows. Thirty years from now we may find ourselves wishing for the death of the franchise, as many former Star Trek fen now do... (Not making fun of ST fen here, used to be one myself.)
;-)

In other words, I agree that a miniseries could be a stepping stone even if it provides a conclusion to some storylines.

[ChianaMuse]

Originally posted by RydraWong
And hey, four hours is the same length as two movies. Since when is that chopped liver? :D

or one semi-long movie with commercials! :D
but hell, i'll take a heaping helping of liver. if liver means farscape. and heaping helping means anything more than what we have now!

[quendi]

Has anyone called/emailed Matt Roush about any of this? Perhaps he may have some "inside information" for us.

[Truemyth]

And just think of the commentaries we'll get on the mini-series... *drool* Although I kinda hope they sell the DVD rights to someone other than ADV. Gosh. I'm thinking about DVD rights? I'm doing this all backwards. :whip:

Must stay calm.
:meditate:

when has anything on Farscape ever been tied up in a pretty bow? Chiana would look pretty cute tied up in a pretty bow.:huh:

[BillFrugge]

Originally posted by Truemyth
Chiana would look pretty cute tied up in a pretty bow.:huh:

I forgot what I was going to say... that image!

Oh yeah! I remember now...

About this 4 hours being enough to finish loose ends. I think it was in one of the on-line chats, but DK said essentially said that there are two ends of the story: The beginning and the end. You can take the story straight through, or take the long way.

Since they were renewed for 2 years, they were taking the longer way. They could have finished the story in season 4. I believe they'll just go straight through the rest of the story in four hours without taking any side-trips or smelling the roses.

[harveywhispers]

I am going to wait for the official word to be given by Henson, but there were subtle hints over the weekend which made me believe that this is only a begining. Either way, our work is only really begining!

[Nato]

Under A Dying Sun, please, just relax.

The Jim Henson Company doesn't have unlimited resources, nor can they change the laws of economics. They've already put forth a remarkable effort to keep the show alive in some form or another, and I doubt they're prepared to give up any time soon.

Kemper, O'Bannon and co. don't owe you, me, or any of us anything. We got four fantastic years of Farscape-- and now despite all odds... well, something more. Any new Farscape after "Bad Timing" is a very generous gift to us, the fans, from a company that is by no means in smooth financial waters. To grumble about what has doubtlessly been the result of a lot of hard work and dedication on the part of the Henson folks strikes me as a little... shortsighted. (Rygel-ish, if you will.)

Whatever we're getting, it doesn't sound like some cheap knockoff. David Kemper, Rockne O'Bannon and Brian Henson-- who's only a dyed-in-the-wool Farscape supporter and the co-CEO of the entire dang company-- are all apparently personally involved. If they want to end the series after whatever is coming, it's their right-- Farscape is their creation. (We just love the heck out of it.)

But honestly, these guys have fought tooth and nail to give us really amazing television for more than four years now. Do you really think it's justified to even begin to lose faith in them so quickly, when we don't even know the real facts yet?

-- Nato

[Spacepiston]

I myself am extremely excited about the current news and/or rumors. Obviously something is in the works, and something is better then nothing.

Henson would be smart to keep Farscape as far from Sci-Fi channel as possible. Skiffy is all things bad. Bonnie has to be embarrased at this point, though im sure she will spin it into a "im glad for the fans" speech. But we (the fans) will all know better.

Once this news is confirmed I say we start compaigning for a commercial to promote the mini-series or whatever is coming.

[waltersgirl]

amen, Nato. :smokin:

Scapepiston,
you might to read here. (http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12076)

[Spacepiston]

Yea i have made donations to the funds in the past, but now we should focus on the news at hand, and what we might be able to do with that.

ahh i see this thread is way ahead of me:
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17326

[waltersgirl]

but now we should focus on the news at hand, and what we might be able to do with that.


that's what the project is all about. promoting Farscape. finding new viewers, expanding the fanbase and doing it through advertising on other channels.

when news is confirmed, we swing into round 2 of our fight....becoming watchfarscape.com with all the name implies.

[Susana]

Isn't it interesting that a show nobody watched merited front page coverage on tvguide.com?

[harveywhispers]

I can hardly wait to start Round 2!! This weekend really rejuvinated my spirit!!

[waltersgirl]

Susana,

that happened because of you guys. because of every letter you wrote and project you thought of, supported, pulled off. the buzz is out there. now we make it bigger.

[JA_Shipper]

Originally posted by Susana
Isn't it interesting that a show nobody watched merited front page coverage on tvguide.com?

Heeeeeee. :D

Suse

[Under A Dying Sun]

nato-

i have been fighting for the show since day 1.

relax about what? i am just as excited as anyone. i felt the energy at the con and i still feel it now. honestly, i don't need a lesson in economics as i work in the entertainment 'business' myself and realize how precious funds are. i'm not naive.

my original point is that creatively, not economically they don't wrap the show up - many others on this board were confused with 'epic conclusion' as well. But as i stated before, and others too, that is was tvguide's own wording and not from henson.

[Shipscat]

Originally posted by Under A Dying Sun
my original point is that creatively, not economically they don't wrap the show up - many others on this board were confused with 'epic conclusion' as well. But as i stated before, and others too, that is was tvguide's own wording and not from henson.

Yup. And I'm not going to worry about what TV guide says-I'm going to wait and see what the real PTB say. If they say this is going to be a definite conclusion, then I'll be fine with that (although I could see feature films in the future still). But I don't really expect that they'll say that..I think that they'll say 'it depends' because of course we know they're the master of endings that aren't really endings..what other show would actually solve the hero's quest and take him home before the series was over? Because of course, there are more stories than just 'does Crichton get home?"

And a lot of that 'it depends' will depend on us, on how much we want it.

[Under A Dying Sun]

it was just an issue of doubt and that was compounded by tv guide's wording and my profound hatred of reality television; little investment huge profits.:hork:

the other thread about this in farscape discussion has many scapers wondering also - doubting. hey, all i know is that if henson had 1 billion in profits, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. :)

i guess i'm just greedy. i can't wait for whatever is announced and i will continue to spread the word and defend the show. i will forever be amazed at all the people here and everyone's efforts.

[Shipscat]

I've seen a lot of people have doubts..and I know some of it is the wording..but my gosh, I haven't even had a chance to enjoy this victory *yet*! We haven't even gotten official word, and we don't know what it is exactly that's going to happen..and no matter what it is, even if it's Ben and Claudia acting on street corners with David Kemper using a box brownie, I am going to celebrate it to high heaven!

*Then* I might say...'well, where's the rest?" 'please sir, can I have some more? :)

Or..look! The next hill! CHARGE!!!!

[grapeshot]

I'm just very happy.

I remember ALL those people that said we never had a chance, and to give it up. Those cynics just crawled up my butt! I always thought that Farscape was different, and Farscape's fans were different, and I always thought that there was no end to what we could accomplish. See? We're not done yet. The Fat Lady ain't sung yet.

[atlantagirl]

Originally posted by grapeshot
I remember ALL those people that said we never had a chance, and to give it up. Those cynics just crawled up my butt!

:fear: :g2f:

[Under A Dying Sun]

totally. my (ex)friend, who originally GOT me into FS a few years ago told me a few months ago that FS would never come back and we all were wasting our time - and he is a die hard FS fan? well, a die hard buffy fan. well, he turned out to be a complete ass. His way of saying that buffy was better than FS was googling them both for hits. uhhhhhh... WTF. i'm not gonna write that gloating email just yet however

i don't want to jinx anything. :)

[General]

I hope it's true...I'll take 4 hours of Farscape anyway I can get it! It might even attract enough new viewers to start season 5, 6 or 7. Gimmie...Gimmie! :D

[Shipscat]

Originally posted by grapeshot
I'm just very happy.

I remember ALL those people that said we never had a chance, and to give it up. Those cynics just crawled up my butt! I always thought that Farscape was different, and Farscape's fans were different, and I always thought that there was no end to what we could accomplish. See? We're not done yet. The Fat Lady ain't sung yet.

You should get that looked at. I hear cynics up the butt can be dangerous.

yeah, I have some gloating to do..well, not really gloating..just when the announcement comes, to casually say 'oh, yeah, we're getting more Farscape'

But it is an incredibly unlikely thing. The naysayers-and everyone I know that's even close to the industry said it would never happen- are one of the things that make me realize what an accomplishment this is for Scapers.

[thxprincess]

Yup, sounds familiar...I have a few friends myself who told me I was being overly obsessive (which might be true..) and that we seriously had no chance of getting our show back.

Yup...I think it will be fun to tell them they were wrong. I just hope they don't ruin the fun for me and act like they don't care. Sometimes maturity can be so irritating. :ppbb:

[harveywhispers]

If/when we get a theoretical announcement, I'm going to take a bit of pleasure out of telling the skeptics. After that, it's time to get back to work.

[Farsight]

All my friends, I had already indoctrinated into the show, so they were too pissed off to be irritating. :)

The only people I've known that badmouthed Farscape, were people who either never saw it, or watched 2 minutes of a random episode and decided they hated it. It's a weird thing, how so many people can have such antagonism towards something they have no knowledge about. It's like if they didn't discover a show, it must suck. Or if it's not "Show X", it can't be good, because then "Show X" wouldn't be the only good show ever made!

I guess what I'm trying to say is, people are weird. :)

[mjwillia]

I am happy our voices have been heard.

I am excited to hear the official announcement.

I am delighted that we may get a conclusion to the best love story ever told! (Because lets face it, all stories come to an end.)

I am astounded that we are getting what we wished for...

I am grateful to all the fans who made this happen.

I am thankful to Farscape's creators and actors.

I am Farscape!

[Xenajules2]

Originally posted by Under A Dying Sun
Don't get me wrong, on one hand I am glad FS is returning. However, i am not pleased if the rumors are true to conclude the series. I would rather have the original ending than something that ties it all up in a pretty bow.

If this is an attempt to appease the fans and not to garner a new audience i will be severly dissapointed.

i still want new seasons. How can they possibly tie up everything in 4 measly hours. I hope there is something we all don't know about yet. And yes, I do understand that this *may* lead to further seasons.

From Ricky Manning, at the con: (paraphrased) The way to get MORE Farscape is to get MORE viewers. Keep doing what you're doing. The length of time Farscape runs will be determined by how well WE DO OUR JOB!! (meaning the fans and specifically savefarscape)

FARSCAPE HAS HOPE!! was the message. What they're doing NOW is to test the waters. NOW is when OUR JOB STARTS!!!

Jules ;)

[Dominar of Action]

Exactly, Jules (great to meet you, BTW ;) ). From the way Henson worded the aborted "announcement-of-the-pending-announcement" to comments dropped here and there at the con, I totally agree that it doesn't seem as if TPTB are viewing this as a conclusion per se. Yes, the worst case scenario would be that the viewing numbers aren't there and this is all we get. But in that case, we will still have at least gotten a resolution to the S4 cliffhanger and Henson will have a more complete package to sell into syndication. I can deal with that, but I am just as determined to do what I can to get those numbers needed for more FS beyond this project. :cool:

[I-am-so-Johns-girl]

I hope that they always put "To be continued" at the end of whatever they do (Mini series, feature film or Season 5)...which will always leave a door open for more Farscape stories! :love:

[thxprincess]

My thing with finding the people to bring Farscape's numbers up...I read a post this morning that said only 5,000 some people had Neilson boxes? How on earth are we going to find them and make sure they are all tuned in? And how come I don't count!!!

[Mickie]

thxprincess,

We simply have to get so many people watching that we get the neilson families in by default. There's no easy way around it.

[Greenbug]

I will wait for Henson to make the announcement. However, I do feel that they (Henson) need a means to introduce Farscape into the main stream (other than limited Sci-Fi). I do believe that the ratings for the the miniseries will be extremly important if we are to get more Farscape. Our job is not over and while we can be proud that we have already managed to get (what the world said we couldn't) more farscape. We must wait and see where the miniseries will be shown and get the word out to as many people as we can to watch. And then start the writing campain again to let everyone know we were watching!

We can not give up hope

We can not give up the fight

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