Question about Aeryn [spoilers for 3.22 DWTB & beyond]

[padmeskywalker]

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I was wondering, cuz I havn't figured it out. In 'Bad Timing' she tells John the 'statis' has been shut-off and all. My question is did the scarrans release it when they had her, or did she get it released when she went to the medical thing in (part 3??? I think)??? Just wondering if anyone knows...

[fandom]

It was the nurse in the cargo ship, there is a moment in which she says that she is going to give Aeryn a shot to calm her but when she does, Aeryn screams that she is taking something from her.

Later the nurse explains the scarran that the fetus is keept in stasis by some liquid.

So, that's what she was taking from Aeryn thereby activating the pregnancy.

[Judith]

Originally posted by fandom
It was the nurse in the cargo ship, there is a moment in which she says that she is going to give Aeryn a shot to calm her but when she does, Aeryn screams that she is taking something from her.

Later the nurse explains the scarran that the fetus is keept in stasis by some liquid.

So, that's what she was taking from Aeryn thereby activating the pregnancy.
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I didn't get that at all. I thought the nurse was taking stuff from her to do a pregnancy test...cause she wasn't sure if Aeryn was pregnant.

Here's my question:

In Prayer, she seems to know the baby is Crichton's, although she avoids telling him until the final episode. Do you guys think that she has known the baby was Chrichton's since she first found out about the pregnancy? And how, in Prayer, did she know it wasn't Velorek's? And if she has known the whole time that it was Crichton's baby, what are her motives for telling him that she doesn't know who the father is?

[padmeskywalker]

It was the nurse in the cargo ship, there is a moment in which she says that she is going to give Aeryn a shot to calm her but when she does, Aeryn screams that she is taking something from her.

That doesn't make sense.. cuz in WSS part 1- When they are afraid for the baby, they are gonna transfer it from Aeryn to Chiana, IF the baby was at that point out of 'statis' how could they do it? The baby would be continuously growing from that point, and that should be impossible.

Judith- I don't know, maybe she thought he'd be freaked out and all????

My orginal question remains, did the scarrans after that point or during that point in part 1 release the statis, or did Aeryn herself do that in part 3???

[Judith]

Originally posted by padmeskywalker


Judith- I don't know, maybe she thought he'd be freaked out and all????

My orginal question remains, did the scarrans after that point or during that point in part 1 release the statis, or did Aeryn herself do that in part 3???

Yeah, I don't look at her not telling him as a plot problem but as an...Aeryn not knowing how to deal problem. I wish we knew more about it, but I had a feeling we were going to, and then they had to end the show!

I thought that the Scarrans accidentially released the baby from stasis because of how much they messed with her, and because we know that pregnant Sebaceans aren't supposed to be able to deal with all that. But now I don't know if she did it herself...On one hand, it doesn't seem like she'd do that without talking to John, but then on the other hand, apparently she's known that it's his baby and has deliberately misled him so that he'll be uncertain, so she hasn't really been giving him much input on baby decisions.

I guess...one thing that makes me wonder if she'd try and have it released from stasis herself...is that they are in a lot of danger at this point in her lives. I'd think she'd want to keep it in stasis in case things get safer in a couple years.

[Judith]

Here's another question I have about the pregnancy...or Peacekeeper pregnancy in general, I guess.

When she originally tells John that she doesn't know who the father is, she explainsn that the fetus can be kept in stasis for up to seven years, before it's released.

What happens if you wait the full seven years? Does it release from stasis on it's own, and the Peacekeeper begins gestation? Or does it, like, expire after seven years?

[padmeskywalker]

I thought that the Scarrans accidentially released the baby from stasis because of how much they messed with her, and because we know that pregnant Sebaceans aren't supposed to be able to deal with all that. But now I don't know if she did it herself...On one hand, it doesn't seem like she'd do that without talking to John, but then on the other hand, apparently she's known that it's his baby and has deliberately misled him so that he'll be uncertain.

Yeah, plus when she came back in NE, he asks if that's why she left (to release the statis) and she says she didn't get that far. Plus if I remember right, she looked pretty happy when she walked into that medical thing in part 3... that's why I was wondering. Also in BT, she doesn't say the scarrans released it, she says remember when I went into *forgot the word* and he says yeah or nodds, and then she tells him, the baby is out of statis, so I wasn't sure what to think...

[Judith]

Originally posted by padmeskywalker
Yeah, plus when she came back in NE, he asks if that's why she left (to release the statis) and she says she didn't get that far. Plus if I remember right, she looked pretty happy when she walked into that medical thing in part 3... that's why I was wondering. Also in BT, she doesn't say the scarrans released it, she says remember when I went into *forgot the word* and he says yeah or nodds, and then she tells him, the baby is out of statis, so I wasn't sure what to think...

What is NE? I'm sorta braindead right now.

[padmeskywalker]

NE= Natural Election.

[padmeskywalker]

I got the impression from NE, that it would expire after 7 yrs. She said the ONLY way to release it was for a surgeon to do it. So, that's why think that...

[fandom]

Originally posted by padmeskywalker
That doesn't make sense.. cuz in WSS part 1- When they are afraid for the baby, they are gonna transfer it from Aeryn to Chiana, IF the baby was at that point out of 'statis' how could they do it? The baby would be continuously growing from that point, and that should be impossible.

Why? I wouldn't be surprised if humans doctors could do it now. And even if they can't, we can't fly faster than light either.

As for how they knew it was Crichton's, after some scans the nurse says that the child is not a full sebacean and that the other half of the DNA is not in their databases. So, Verlorek is not the father, and I don't think Aeryn would recreate with other non-sebaceans.

[padmeskywalker]

Maybe, I doubt it...

I agree w/ Judith, I got the impression the scene you are refering to, the nurse was doing a pregnancy test to see if her suspions were correct.

[fandom]

After my last post I remembered my biology teacher in high school explaning, so many years ago, how they send animal embryos around the world.

They get them out of a cow and put them in a female rabbit, which is sent wherever the buyer is, then it is taken from the rabbit and transplanted into a cow.

Sounds kind of digusting even if they don't use such primitive procedures as in Farscape, but a bit googling gives many results on the matter like:

http://www.braunvieh.com/goldenlink/embro.htm

And please, excuse me for the technobabble.

Mainly I don't think the nurse would need to take a sample to know if Aeryn was pregnant, they have often shown scanners in Farscape that can do that, like the one they have in the cargo bay a single pass over the patients and you get a 3D image of their insides in the screen, and the nurse was always carring some kind of equipment she kept pointing at Aeryn.

[Judith]

Originally posted by fandom



Mainly I don't think the nurse would need to take a sample to know if Aeryn was pregnant, they have often shown scanners in Farscape that can do that, like the one they have in the cargo bay a single pass over the patients and you get a 3D image of their insides in the screen, and the nurse was always carring some kind of equipment she kept pointing at Aeryn.

The only 3D image I remember is the 3D brain scan. And even if they have others, they didn't seem to have anything like that on the Scarran ship. The equipment she pointed at Aeryn only told her how much danger Aeryn was in from the Scarran heat probe. Remember, when the nurse suspects Aeryn is pregnant, she's still not sure. She says "give me an arn, and I'll find out". That implies she needs to test Aeryn.

Also, it doesn't make sense that the Scarrans would release the embryo on purpose. In stasis, it's relatively safe. Release from stasis, and it's open to the dangers of any normal pregnancy. And it was really important of them to keep the baby alive.

[padmeskywalker]

Thank you, I knew there was something said that gave me that impression, hadn't seen that ep in a while though..

Come on, someone else join in on this convo and speak your mind.

[FL_Redleg]

Interesting thread. Okay, my 2 cents.
I agree that the nurse withdrew "something" from Aeryn, when she was still wearing her black clothing, so she (the nurse) could test for pregnancy and then genetic testing.

But I also think that the Scarrens did release the statsis. My reasoning is that in order to transfer the fetus to Chiana, the stasis had to be released. Chiana is not Sebacean and could not keep the fetus in stasis. Therefore the stasis was released in preparation for the planed transfer.

Just MHO.

Joe,
Florida Redleg

[padmeskywalker]

Interesting...
I can see that...

anyone else wanna add?

[tracyhill]

If you will remember when they are at katratzi at this conference thing she and john go to the command carrier. while there she leaves braca at the doorway of the med centre. This is where she is checked out because she "was really scared by what the scarrans did" She had a dna check done then as well which is how she knows john is the father.

[Judith]

Originally posted by tracyhill
If you will remember when they are at katratzi at this conference thing she and john go to the command carrier. while there she leaves braca at the doorway of the med centre. This is where she is checked out because she "was really scared by what the scarrans did" She had a dna check done then as well which is how she knows john is the father.

No, she knew before that. She knew in Prayer when the Scarrans were torturing her. Remember...that's what she was trying to keep secret.

[tracyhill]

I am not saying that the scarrans didn't release the stasis. I agree they probably did. I am just saying that she probably had a dna check done to make sure when she went to get checked out.

[Moya's Starburst]

Erm... this whole Aeryn pregancy thing is confusing.

She was probably unsure as to who the daddy was before she got taken, then when they were attempting to transfer the baby they could of been able to do so without releasing it from stasis..

or as it is half human, it never was in stasis...

or...After finding out it was unharmed, Aeryn got a dna check to make sure that it definatly is John's and therefore as the other John is no longer he is the remaing one who has the dna match...