View Full Version : Crichton cloned or "twinned" in Eat me?
nightmare42
11-22-2003, 05:35 AM
I like this episode very much. But I don´t understand this: If Crichton isn´t cloned, but twinned; And if every one of them is equal + original, why is it that the other "twinned" persons (the whole bunch of Peacekeepers) are dimwitted? Because, if they are all "original", then it shouldn´t matter how often someone is twinned! They should be all like the original, shouldn´t they?
I´ve always puzzled about this!:(
Jellyfish
11-22-2003, 05:55 AM
Mmmm good question. Perhaps because you can only create and equal and original copy one or twice and then the quality of the copy reduces?
Otherwise that would mean that Crighton, D'Argo and Chiana would all be slightly degraded versions of the original. And there is nothing to indicate that that is the case is there?
Phantom
11-23-2003, 06:46 AM
The evil guy who did the twinning called it twinning himself so I guess its twinning.
The atmostphere in the episode was amazing, I almost felt scared just watching it.
vikingscaper
11-25-2003, 10:14 PM
If I remember correctly, everytime a person is twinned, their quality declines. I believe the guy who did the twinning (can't place his name right now) said that he had twinned the Peacekeepers onboard numerous times so they began to degrade whenever they were duplicated again.
Darth Buddha
11-25-2003, 10:41 PM
Tha's how I recall it too, vikingscaper. However, I also recall that Jool proclaimed them to have no measurable degradation or something to that effect sometime after the twining (when she was trying to figure out if one or the other was the clone). I believe she said "You are both perfect."
nightmare42
11-26-2003, 02:25 AM
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everytime a person is twinned, their quality declines.
If this is true, then one of the Crichtons would have to be slightly degraded, wouldn´t he? That would be disastrous I think! What if the remaining Crichton is the degraded one? Or the father of Aeryn´s baby? :(
Judith
11-26-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by nightmare42
If this is true, then one of the Crichtons would have to be slightly degraded, wouldn´t he? That would be disastrous I think! What if the remaining Crichton is the degraded one? Or the father of Aeryn´s baby? :(
I got the impression that you have to be twinned a LOT before it has any serious effects.
stellar
11-26-2003, 10:14 AM
Some people are REAL passionate about this topic. I played with the notion at Kansas.
The degradation idea is interesting. If each copy degrades at some level then it's cloning. It could be an exponential increase. Not even measurable with the Crichton clone, which ever one that is *cough* Moya *cough*... 'scuse me.
The Crichton clone is not measurable different, hence twinning. If it were truly twinning there would never be a degredation no matter how many times you did it.
Sawyer's Miller
11-26-2003, 10:17 AM
It can't be merely cloning - since *both* Crichtons have the same memories, and personality - remember the scene at the end of "Eat Me" where they are playing "Scissors, Paper, Rock"?
So - this twinning process is beyond our current understanding - so anything is speculation.
Which is exactly what this forum is for! ;)
Phantom
11-27-2003, 08:16 AM
Speculation is always a good thing, but at the end of the day you could just say ah screw it, its just a story. Dont need to worry about it.
SpaceMonkey
12-05-2003, 08:02 PM
Seems to me, the "twinning" uses rapid cell division to "give birth" to two copies, comsuming the original in the process...
Yes, technically, they should be perfect copies, but with such rapid cell division there is a minor chance of mutation.
The 'first generation' copy may get off with zero mutation, or an untraceably small amount---- but copies of the copies would aggravate mutations already present, AND add more-- quadrupling the effect each time.
Our friend the Replicator should have kept some "first generation" copies of the original crew, locked up somewhere safe.
nightmare42
12-08-2003, 10:37 AM
Seems to me, the "twinning" uses rapid cell division to "give birth" to two copies, comsuming the original in the process...
The 'first generation' copy may get off with zero mutation, or an untraceably small amount---- but copies of the copies would aggravate mutations already present, AND add more-- quadrupling the effect each time.
This could explain the Peacekeepers´ looks and actions! Thank you, SpaceMonkey!:ewink: :D :) :aok:
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