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Harveylives
11-28-2003, 07:27 PM
The incredible disappearing twin
November 28, 2003

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How a woman consumed her twin and became two individuals - genetically speaking. By Garry Barker.

The woman was in shock. At the age of 52, she had just been told that she was not the mother of two of her three grown sons, yet she knew she had conceived them with her husband and delivered them naturally.

The case, encountered in Boston and the subject of a report in New Scientist magazine this month, has led researchers to conclude that the woman is a chimera, genetically two individuals in a single, otherwise normal, body.

The US researchers suggest the woman was formed when two non-identical twin embryos — two eggs released into her mother's womb at the same time and simultaneously fertilised — that would have developed into sisters, fused to develop into a single foetus.

But, says Alan Trounson, of Monash University, one of the world's leading experts on human reproduction, the facts could be even more bizarre. The chimera could be the product of what is known as the "disappearing twin" phenomenon, in which one twin foetus consumes the other and, in the process, absorbs some of its cells.

"Disappearing twins are relatively common in human pregnancies — certainly a few in every hundred pregnancies," Trounson said. "They are diagnosed as twins and then one disappears."

Nobody was yet sure why it happened, he said, but the phenomenon had been found "very frequently" in IVF cases where several embryos were implanted at the same time.

"Then they went and looked at general pregnancies and found the disappearing twin was relatively common there, too.

"It happens fairly early in a pregnancy," Trounson said. "Not early, early, but usually in the first third of a pregnancy."

As a result of, say, fusion of blood vessels, "one twin could consume the other so that cells are transferred. One twin becomes parasitic on the other and eventually that second twin disappears."

Trounson discounted the fusion of embryos theory. "But nobody really knows," he said. "Certainly, it can be done artificially in animals by mixing embryonic cells to form a chimera, so it is at least possible. But it might be unlikely.

"Mixing as is suggested in the Boston case would have to happen in the first week and I cannot see that happening because of the impervious shell around an embryo."

But, later in the first third of a pregnancy, "one of the twins could form a fusion with the other. Say the blood vessels fuse, which has been reported, and one twin then consumes the other — basically draws out the material of the other twin and it disappears," Trounson said.

Nothing comparable with the Boston case had so far emerged in Australia, he said, but that did not mean chimeras did not exist here. "We have not tested for them," he said. "I doubt there has been any large-scale testing of IVF children for chimerism. It would be interesting to check it out."

The Boston case emerged after the chimeric woman found she needed a kidney transplant. Her three sons volunteered as donors. Blood tests showed one son to be equipped with the two blocks of genes, known as haplotypes, that humans inherit, one each from the father and from the mother.

But while the other boys had their father's haplotypes, they had different haplotypes from those the tests determined to be their mother's. In fact, their mother had two sets of haplotypes, one dominant.

Chimeras are rare, but far from unknown. Some have eyes of completely different colour, others, according to the New Scientist report, are discovered when they seek medical help for reproductive problems and are found to have both male and female structures in their bodies.

In almost all cases, chimerism causes no problems and remains undetected. Yet there may also be an advantage: when an organ transplant is required, a chimera has twice the chance of finding a match as an ordinary human because they have two sets of haplotypes on which they can be matched.

Johnsgirl727
11-28-2003, 07:31 PM
I'm speechless.

AyuRocks
11-28-2003, 07:31 PM
That's...erm... creepy..

Ashley

Third EYe
11-28-2003, 07:32 PM
I never heard of this. Strange, really strange.

BrowderChick
11-28-2003, 07:42 PM
I went to school with a girl with two different color eyes. Could it be?

vikingscaper
11-28-2003, 07:51 PM
Wow! That is really weird.

Harveylives
11-28-2003, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by Harveylives


As a result of, say, fusion of blood vessels, "one twin could consume the other so that cells are transferred. One twin becomes parasitic on the other and eventually that second twin disappears."




Didn't Stephen King write a book or movie about this?

I just googled.

"The Dark Half"

atlantagirl
11-28-2003, 09:30 PM
Where is this story from, HL?

Harveylives
11-28-2003, 09:56 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/11/27/1069825920727.html?from=top5

The case, encountered in Boston and the subject of a report in New Scientist magazine this month, has led researchers to conclude that the woman is a chimera, genetically two individuals in a single, otherwise normal, body.

Here is the online New Scientist site. I couldn't find the article on this site, probably becuase it's only in the print editon.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/

atlantagirl
11-28-2003, 11:33 PM
Thanks! My sister has 2 different color eyes and I want to mess with her mind. :devil:

trubador
11-29-2003, 12:34 PM
Oooo... you're mean, AG. :lol:

Judith
11-29-2003, 12:36 PM
Better yet,

The Incredible, Edible, Dissapearing Twin.

Harveylives
11-29-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
Better yet,

The Incredible, Edible, Dissapearing Twin.


I think the original works as well:

The incredible, edible, egg.

samati75
11-29-2003, 02:00 PM
So the other son is her nephew, or her brother? Oh lord....

Darth Buddha
11-29-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by BrowderChick
I went to school with a girl with two different color eyes. Could it be?
If they were blue and brown, a much more likely explanation is damage to the retinal tissue during birth. FROM WHAT I RECALL (this isn't my field of study in a long time) that can lead to a blue eye turning partly or entirely brown.

vhsiv
11-29-2003, 04:23 PM
Would that explain David Bowie's eyes?

Darth Buddha
11-29-2003, 04:30 PM
It Might!

BillFrugge
11-29-2003, 04:57 PM
Bowie's eyes are the result of a fight during his school years. The bloke who punched him designed many of his album covers.

Chryse
11-29-2003, 05:04 PM
True chimeras are rare, but with the advances in technology and better pre-natal care, what is being found that disappearing twins is a common occurance. Doctors now say that over 1/3 of all pregnancies start as twins, but that sometime during the first trimester, one of the zygotes disappears... no one is really sure where they go or why they go, chimera is only one explanation...

And different colored eyes aren't always becuase of chimeras. People with different colored eyes are far more common than chimeras.

aileen
a mother of twins who did tons of research during pregnancy.

Darth Buddha
11-29-2003, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by BillFrugge
Bowie's eyes are the result of a fight during his school years. The bloke who punched him designed many of his album covers.
Cool, so later inury can cause a similar effect. I suspected as much.

And I was thinking the damage hypothesis for eyes, not the chimera, from the get-go. Just didn't know the when.

BillFrugge
11-29-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Darth Buddha
Cool, so later inury can cause a similar effect. I suspected as much.

And I was thinking the damage hypothesis for eyes, not the chimera, from the get-go. Just didn't know the when.

His right eye is blue and normal. His left eye is the damaged one: It is permanently dialated, causing it to appear hazel. If you look close enough, you can see a thin band of blue. (Okay, maybe you can't look that close...) The fight was when he was 13 and it was over a girl.

Ha! This is actually on-topic in a wierd sort of way: Bowie was in Henson's Labyrinth.

JadedLegend3
11-29-2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by BillFrugge

Ha! This is actually on-topic in a wierd sort of way: Bowie was in Henson's Labyrinth.

Great movie!!!

To continue this aside, when we were at the NYC Henson office delivering the basket, we got to see some of the original masks from the masquerade ball scene in "Labyrinth." How cool is that?


Jacqui :love:

ilianexsi
11-30-2003, 01:56 AM
It'd be cool if the disappearing-twin thing could happen to the Olson twins..... ;)