b-bumps (the *one* thing that bugs me)

[SaraD]

Somebody is bothered by a lack of bruises when people get beat up. I'm bothered by... not sure what to call them...

the breast bumps

they gave some of the women (Natira all the time, Sikozu some of the time).

The bodice is flat and then there are two apparently hard perfectly shaped bumps that stand up... like an external skeleton. Gives me the willies.

[Judith]

I always thought that Sikozou had such a molded breastplate so that when she "rearranged her center of gravity", her breasts wouldn't peek through her top.

<shrugs>

It seemed logical to me.

[Selena]

er ... um ... there's no real delicate way of saying this ... and there is no slight intended towards either lady - both of whom are wonderful people and fine actresses ... both Ms Edgley and Ms Hill are not amply proportioned in the loomas department so they had them enhanced by airbrushing and other ... er ... augmentations.
From a seamstress point of view, it's not at all easy to make leather fit certain contours without it being somewhat bumpy.
Loomas are predominantly adipose (fatty) tissue and as both the above ladies are extremely svelte and lacking in the adipose tissue department they do not have an abundance of said tissue where those of us otherwise endowed do... if you get my drift.

[Judith]

That bothers me. Not about Farscape, but society in general.

They're both very attractive regardless of breast size. Why "add" any? Is that really that important?

[SaraD]

I get the reasoning, Selena, but it still looks awful, in my estimation. Like a Looma Straightjacket (whether or not there's anything in there, that's irrelevant). I'll betcha guys wouldn't want jockstraps made out of the same material, even if it made them more... appealing. And a big IF on that one.

[Selena]

SaraD I don't think guys would go for leather enhancements although in days of old when knights were bold .... etc .... they did wear cod pieces :dunno: why they were called that is anyone's guess ... of course the modern day version is the football sock in the Y-fronts!
If my junk mail box is any indication - size is ultra important to guys.

[MJS]

How they say it " It´s not the boat, it´s how you paddle" (?)
I like bumps in all sizes.

[brokendj23]

come on, we're complaining about these fine beautiful women and their breast bumps, anyone remember batman and robin's in the new movies? now theres breast bumps to complain about!

[RydraWong]

why they were called that is anyone's guess

Because "cod" in Middle English meant a bag, and hence was used as slang for the scrotum. Truth.

(Yes, I have a thing for weird bits of etymology :D).

[Selena]

Well thank you for that piece of enlightenment RydraWong :hug: ... I was going to lose sleep not knowing.

[RydraWong]

I think someone's pointed out that the Scarran Emperor also has quite impressive breast bumps ... :D

Personally, I think it has to do with the fact that they're using rigid molded plastic. That given, you either get isolated breast (or pectoral) "bumps", or you get the monobosom/pigeonbreast effect. Neither option is really great, IMHO.

[TajaKayScaper]

I'm just loving that we're calling them 'breast bumps'.......and that there is a whole thread devoted to bumps, monobosom (HA) and all such others, that's just too frelling funny!! You guys are GREAT!!:D

[trubador]

Heck, as long as they're bigger than bee stings and smaller than the average grapefruit...

[Selena]

My ex used to say that anything that didn't fit into one hand was utterly wasted ... :rollin:

[fiona-maria]

Monobosom...*laugh* Brill.*laugh*

Rydra, thank you for that interesting bit of trivia. I love stuff like that!

Yes, trying to fit leather to small bumps is tough. The nature of leather, etc. I notice that Ms Edgley's are emphasised by the makeup on her chest. Those two painted on curves located under her collar bones do a lot to create the illusion of said adipose tissue.

And Judith, I would agree about the perception of society that women have to have ample boobs in order to be attractive, when it is obvious to ANYONE that Ms Hill and Ms Edgley are beautiful women.*sigh*

Fiona

[Shipscat]

Originally posted by trubador
Heck, as long as they're bigger than bee stings and smaller than the average grapefruit...

Well, that leaves me out.

But you know, the one that bothered me was Rygel's girlfriend..I mean, why do you need breasts on a Hynerian? They're amphibians, right?

[Selena]

:pace: me too.

[grinner]

I like em... breast are good. anything bigger than a hand full is to much... and I have big hands...

[SaraD]

smaller than a grapefruit... no more than a handful. crickey, y'all are fussy. those of us who aren't wearing plastic-molded monobosoms designed to indicate that there's more to the matter than really is are looking for ways to de-emphasize what we've got. Looma girdles? boob cloaking devices?

[Shipscat]

Ack..um..uh...grinner, there's nothing I can say to that that won't get me in trouble.

[grinner]

:spew: warning... maybe?

besides... I love 'em in all sizes.

[Selena]

Were you a breast fed baby grinner?

[grinner]

yup

why?

[Selena]

I have a theory about men who were breast fed babies and how they end up having looma fixation when they grow up.

[grinner]

well... they are comforting.

not to sound wierd... but having your head held up to them... is very comforting and gives a secure feeling thru-out the body.

[Selena]

Not something I have experienced personally ... kind of hard to bend one's neck into that position. I do however agree that having one's head on someone's chest has a soothing feeling ... something about hearing a heart beating and the gentle rise and fall of the chest with respiration ... I think I'll go home and take a cold shower ...

[Shipscat]

In my experience it's the bottle babies that are fixated-trying to make up for deprivation early in life..

[grinner]

I am not fixated on breasts... I am more of a leg/ankle man. I love the look of a svelte ankle/calf... but then... thighs are really nice... and butts... and stomachs... and...

[JadedLegend3]

My friend and I once came up with a list of over 100 uses for loomas...although, I prolly can't remember them all now...


Jacqui :love:

[Hmpf]

Originally posted by SaraD
the breast bumps


Makes a certain sense if you lead a life where you may expect occasional violence - getting hit on the breasts hurts a lot!

And Scorpius has the equivalent of the breast bumps over his private parts, so it's not strictly a gender thing. ;-)

[Judith]

Originally posted by Hmpf


And Scorpius has the equivalent of the breast bumps over his private parts, so it's not strictly a gender thing. ;-)

It's called a mangina.

[Hmpf]

Originally posted by Shipscat
Well, that leaves me out.

But you know, the one that bothered me was Rygel's girlfriend..I mean, why do you need breasts on a Hynerian? They're amphibians, right?

For that matter, why do you need breasts on Zhaan? She's a *plant*!!!

[trubador]

Originally posted by Shipscat
Well, that leaves me out.
Maybe I shoulda said, "Bigger than a bee sting, smaller than the average bowling ball"??? :D

Originally posted by grinner
I am not fixated on breasts... I am more of a leg/ankle man. I love the look of a svelte ankle/calf... but then... thighs are really nice... and butts... and stomachs... and... [/B]
Well, I'm an "ass" man. I know this because every time I walk down the street someone always comes up to me and yells, "You're an ass, man!" :P

[BlackThorn]

Originally posted by trubador
Well, I'm an "ass" man. I know this because every time I walk down the street someone always comes up to me and yells, "You're an ass, man!" :P

:roflmao: Bad! Bad trubador!

Big, small, it all depends on how it goes with the rest of the package. Personally, I think both Ms. Edgley and Ms. Hill would look wrong with grapefruits up top -- imbalance.

[sny]

Originally posted by trubador
Maybe I shoulda said, "Bigger than a bee sting, smaller than the average bowling ball"??? :D



Finally, a category I fit into, as well! (34FF. Try asking for that in your local lingerie section...)

I'm thinking I agree with the bit about "unexpected violence". If I were on Moya, and got shot at, kicked, hit, and generally tumbled about like some of the residents, I would want all the molded breastplate between the world and my loomas I could get.

And on a side note, wouldn't it be nice if everyone were satisfied with what size they were? Kills me when I hear these little "I can get away with not wearing a bra" girls complain about having nothing up top. I'm awed by girls who can actually *jog* without endangering their dental work. I can't even buy bras that fit me in the store. I have to order 'em from Britain. I figure you got what you got for a reason. It went with the rest of your body.

I'm pretty happy with mine, now that I know where I can get my hands on those Bioform bras with the molded side cups. Not only am I all "lifted and separated and relatively jiggle-proof", but thanks to that hard molded side cup, I could probably take a round under the armpit and be none the wiser. Actually, I was always happy with mine. It was the bra and clothing industry I was unhappy with. I'm kind of glad I'm built on the "amply endowed short girl" model. Gives me a low center of gravity. And lots of room to store spare change.

Stacie

[Shipscat]

Well, hmpf, maybe Delvians nursed their little plant children with sap..after all, Zhaan ate, so she needs more than soil and water and air. Or perhaps they evolved as man eating plants on a world with a humanoid life form that they preyed on, and her 'shape' is a decoy.

Course that still doesn't explain the Hynerian...

[Shipscat]

Originally posted by trubador
Maybe I shoulda said, "Bigger than a bee sting, smaller than the average bowling ball"??? :D



Works for me.

I'm not complaining-I've nursed two babies til they could walk, I can fill out a sweater, and I don't have any backaches or other problems that some people seem to have, so I must be just right.

[grinner]

too right. :D

[auroraSun]

someone mentioned Zhaan with breasts, and something to go along with that: most/all the females on Farscape have breasts. Now it is not necessary for every creature to have them (our lovely ape and monkey relatives don't) but every bipedial being has them on the show.

Now I know that probably has more to do with the actors inside the costumes, but if we are going to go really in depth here...
:shrug: it is worth mentioning.

[Ouroboros]

One thing I have to give them a lot of credit for is the female PK armour. As in there is no "special" female pk armour that features ridiculous armoured breast bumps apparently intended to create a shell trap right over the poor lady's heart. You see it a lot in sci-fi, especially animated sci-fi, and occasionally in live action as well. Voyager's laughable breasted space suits come to mind, but we didn't see it here. I thank them for that.

As for Natira who says they're breasts at all? They might vaguely resemble breasts but considering she's naked and they seemingly have no use in feeding young (no openings) I'd say they're something else that simply looks like breasts.

I still await they day when someone will actually grow the mivonks to depict a primary female alien character without breasts of any kind.

[Judith]

Originally posted by Ouroboros


I still await they day when someone will actually grow the mivonks to depict a primary female alien character without breasts of any kind.

If it were a live action show, that would certainly limit actresses they could hire.

[Ouroboros]

If makeup's reached the point where they can convincingly make Fran Buller look like Ahkna I'm sure they could work out some sort of wardrobe/makeup arrangment. It's not like it's going to have to hold up to a topless shot...

[FieryHands]

Not alien, but I think I saw something like it on Welcome to Paradox. A woman got rid of her breasts. They used some guy's chest I think to show what she looked like without them. I guess they tapped her boobs down or something for the rest of the episode while she was uh, still female.

A female alien with no breasts. Moya counts sort of counts doesn't she?

[trubador]

Well, remember now... there was Stanz! :P

All kidding aside, though... I (for the life of me) can never understand why "cup" sizes for bras are not consistent. To me, it would make sense that an A is an A is an A, and a C is a C is a C.

I once thought that cup size was a standard "volume" no matter if you were a 32-C, 34-C, 38-C. But (apparently) that is not the case. No wonder it's so confusing for women to try an find a bra that actually fits.

[FieryHands]

These days you need a talk show to tell you how to find the right "size". How sad is that?

[Shipscat]

I'm blushing here, grinner.

But can I point out here that there were NO actresses playing the female Hynerian?

[grinner]

:innocent:

[ljenab]

Originally posted by Selena
er ... um ... there's no real delicate way of saying this ... and there is no slight intended towards either lady - both of whom are wonderful people and fine actresses ... both Ms Edgley and Ms Hill are not amply proportioned in the loomas department so they had them enhanced by airbrushing and other ... er ... augmentations.


Well, I suppose I ought to get myself in as much trouble as the rest of you . . . so here goes! :g2f: Having seen both of these lovely ladies sans clothing, :shocked: I agree with Selena's comment as it applies to Ms. Edgely, but beg to differ as to Ms. Hill. No looma deficit there, I'm afraid. There! I said it! If only this darned thread had died a few hours ago I would have been able to resist chucking in my two, er . . . cents.

:wall:

Is it safe to come out yet???

:wall:

[Selena]

You think that previous statement got you into trouble ... boy are you niave ljenab ... you definitely can't get away with such scant details ...
...Having seen both of these lovely ladies sans clothing...
... we would like you to clarify the above ... do tell ... just how did you happen to be in this predicament???

[Selena]

Originally posted by Ouroboros
... I still await they day when someone will actually grow the mivonks to depict a primary female alien character without breasts of any kind.
Didn't they do that in EFC .... Da'an and Zo'or were as androgynous as I have ever seen.

[Selena]

Just because a Hynerian is aquatic does not mean that they do not nurse their young. There's all manner of strange creatures on our planet so why would they be any different on UT planets?
Take the Platypus for instance ... it is aquatic, has a bill like a duck, fur and webbed feet, lays eggs and suckles it's young ... I've heard Aussies refer to it as God's left overs.

[Grippy]

I know that Gigi has done some nudes, and I'm guessing Raelee (spelling?) has done some as well. Who knows what sort of clothing is attractive to aliens?

I noticed someone said that the molded plastic/leather/ whatever would be good for protection purposes, but I'm suprised no one has mentioned Aeryn's lack of such protective covering. Yeah, she's leather on, but it's not arranged in such a way to be protective to her asthetic anatomy. :O

I must agree with handfull is best....:D

[Shipscat]

Well, they must be monotremes, Selena, because Rygel has made those caustic comments about body breeders...

And I sat next to Raelee at the cocktail party last year, and she was almost exactly the size and shape of my daughter..which means,ummm... no looma deficit.

[fiona-maria]

Fiery Hands wrote: "Not alien, but I think I saw something like it on Welcome to Paradox. A woman got rid of her breasts. They used some guy's chest, I think, to show what she looked like without them. I guess they taped her boobs down or something for the rest of the episode while she was, uh, still female."

Why did they use a guy's chest? Have you ever seen a woman who has had to have a double mastectomy? Larry LaBonte, a photographer here in the Twin Cities, took a series of photos, absolutely gorgeous, black and white, and very much art.

Two women meet, greet, one takes off her shirt, you think, omigod she is taking off her shirt, and she has no breasts. Her chest is flat, not even any nipples, nothing. You can see her ribs, just, no fatty deposits. Then the other woman takes off her shirt and she is also without breasts, flat, not even nipples.

And yet they are women, and it is obvious they are women, in their faces, in the way they stand.

The cultural assumption is that identity is embodied (if that is the correct word for it) in our physical attributes. Breasts make the women as much as testes make the man.

And there was a cultural assumption operating in the fact that they chose a guy's chest to show a woman without breasts. As if they couldn't even imagine what a woman looks like without those particular secondary sexual characteristics.

Interesting conversation.


Fiona

[sny]

Originally posted by trubador
Well, remember now... there was Stanz! :P

All kidding aside, though... I (for the life of me) can never understand why "cup" sizes for bras are not consistent. To me, it would make sense that an A is an A is an A, and a C is a C is a C.

I once thought that cup size was a standard "volume" no matter if you were a 32-C, 34-C, 38-C. But (apparently) that is not the case. No wonder it's so confusing for women to try an find a bra that actually fits.

Ah, Stanz. One of my favorite guest stars!

As far as bra sizes go, I'll do you one better. That ain't the half of how confusing they are.

For one thing, there is no "standard". A 34C will be a different "size" from manufacturer to manufacturer, and sometimes, even from style to style within a certain brand. There is no regulation or even "generally agreed upon" standard. Some manufacturerers tell you to add 4 or five inches to your chest (just the ribs) measurement to get your band size. Others want you to add 2 or 3. Some ask that you do no math at all. Some don't bother telling you how they came up with their sizing.

Cup sizes are a rough measure of relative "projection and volume". A 34D is "bigger in relation to the measure of her ribcage" than someone who is a 38D. Generally, to get a cup size, you measure around the fullest bit of your chest, holding the tape loose but level. How you are supposed to accomplish this alone is a complete mystery to me, unless you are a contortionist, and very teeny to boot, because measuring tapes do not conform to something the rough size and shape of a mini-topology of the Andes easily. This measure, you subtract whatever whacko measurement you got for your band size, and it gives you a difference in inches, a number, generally 1 to whatever. In most manufacturers, 1 = A, 2 = B, 3= C, 4 = D.

Beyond that, cup letters don't even stay consistent. Some larger bras in the U.S. then progress DD, DDD, DDDD, like they're afraid to use the rest of the alphabet. (Assuming they even make anything over a D. Some don't even make Ds!) In Britain, they tend to go E, F, FF or G, G if last size was a FF. Some in Britain even extend through H in standard sizes. In the U.S. if you actually find something in a DD and up, the band sizes typically start at 36 or 38, making them useless for me.

The type of cups make a difference, too. Two women with the same "size" may have totally different shapes to their breasts. I, for instance, wear a cup size bigger than my measurements (best I can tell, who can tell with this method?) indicate I should, because apparently, I am shaped very "round". If you looked at me from behind, without a bra and my arms up, you would probably see that my breasts are wider than the rest of me. I can't wear little shelf bras that only come up halfway. Gives me that "breast on a platter" look, and I get spillover, or worse, spillunder, where part of your breast is hiding out in your armpit. Stretchy cups, in general, can be worn smaller, because they will stretch to accomodate. The width of the cups makes a difference. Again, different from manufacturer to manufacturer. I found one that works for me, and those cups don't stretch.

In short, either you guess, give up, or stick with what you've always worn or what your mother wore, or whatever you can find, no matter how uncomfortable or unflattering it is, or you do some research and trial and error, and find something that works by trying it on, at least if you've got anything to hold up. Some women hate that plastic side insert in Bioforms. I love them. Once I got used to having something rigid under my arms, which I did in about a day. Ordering a bra is fun now that I have something I can wear. Biggest decision I have to make is which style and which color. Used to be agonizing trying to find a Playtex with stretchy enough cups that I didn't look too smooshed. And sadly, all women's clothing seems to be based on the same "nobody knows what the hell we're doing, not even us" sizing model.

Why can't women's pants also be sized by just waist and inseam? Why, oh why? And a chest measurement would be handy with women's shirts.

Anyway, back to bras. Basically, a cup size can't be a consistent measure of volume. They must take into account that a woman with a wider chest will likely have a breast with a wider "base of attachment" so to speak. And likely more space between her breasts, where, do to a decent job, a bra must come into contact with the chest wall. Also, breasts extend upward differently. The curve of mine "start" not too far below my collarbones. I need a deep cup, or half of me isn't in it. Add to that the fact that it is nigh on impossible to measure the "volume" of a breast. Breasts aren't perfectly round, on most people. (Unless you bought them and had them installed.) They're more teardrop shaped on most people. In short, "Oh, that it were that easy!"

On the other hand, I can use my bra as a pith helmet, in a pinch, so I shouldn't complain.

Stacie

[Nicola]

Originally posted by sny
On the other hand, I can use my bra as a pith helmet, in a pinch, so I shouldn't complain.

Stacie

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

And yes, bras are impossible to figure out. Trial and error.

[canadadoc]

Originally posted by Nicola
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

And yes, bras are impossible to figure out. Trial and error.

Yes and when you do figure one out they discontinue the "model", just like your favourite lipstick colour !!! I hate that.

c.

[Selena]

My sister is always telling me how lucky I am to have cleavage whereas she is the B-Bump person ... but then she's very thin, blonde and tall too. :pace: sigh ... I got shortchanged on everything but cleavage ... short, round and dark haired and one of the most unphotogenic people on this planet and several others I suspect.:rolleyes:

But I do so agree with your bra comments sny, I too cannot find 2 brands that fit the same way.

And every time I find one I really like they discontinue it if I don't buy a dozen of them when I find them ... that's if there's even more than 1 of my size on the rack in the first place.

Bras are not the only clothing item I have an issue with. I am 5' 1" tall which puts me in the petite category for height {not width :pissed:} but can I ever find anything my size for my height? Nope :g2f:

Everything is made for people who are 5' 3" and taller and if one buys an item the right size (width-wise) the item usually ends up being 4 to 6 inches too long.:dunno: It's a conspiracy of discrimination against short, round people and short thin people!

[Judith]

Originally posted by Selena

Everything is made for people who are 5' 3" and taller and if one buys an item the right size (width-wise) the item usually ends up being 4 to 6 inches too long.:dunno: It's a conspiracy of discrimination against short, round people and short thin people!

I am 5'5'', which is actually quite average, and whenever I buy pants, they are always too long. Frustrates me.

Maybe I have short legs and a long torso though. Don't know.

[grinner]

try being a guy 6'5" and not fat. I have not been able to buy clothing at any so-called value store in years. It seems that clothing manufacturers think that if you are tall... you have to be fat as well. I have wide shoulders and not a fat belly. So I find a shirt that fits my shoulders... and I swim in it over the rest of my body. Or the pants are the right length... but the waistline is halfway up my belly because the clothing manufacturers think that because I have long legs... I must also have a big belly.

Or try finding size 15+ shoes/boots. Under $100.

I have been looking for a pair of glove that FIT my hands for 10 years. I have looked everywhere and have NEVER found a pair that actually fit. I had a pair made... but that was an exhorbenant amount of monies for gloves.

[Judith]

No, I do understand the difficulty of not being the standard as far as clothes go. Like some other people here...my bra size is bigger than it should be in proportion to the rest of my body. I actually have a hard time finding shirts sometimes. It seems like lately in America (don't know about anywhere else) there's been a fashion trend towards smaller breasts. Lately it seems like the prettier a shirt is, the more likely it's made for smaller breasts. And ALL button shirts are out.

[sparkyXVI]

You know you've been hanging around FMD far too long when you stumble across a post asking "Hey, why DO sentient evolutionarily advanced plants have knockers?"

[Nicola]

Originally posted by sparkyXVI
You know you've been hanging around FMD far too long when you stumble across a post asking "Hey, why DO sentient evolutionarily advanced plants have knockers?"
:spew: :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

[JrMissToughChick]

Originally posted by sparkyXVI
You know you've been hanging around FMD far too long when you stumble across a post asking "Hey, why DO sentient evolutionarily advanced plants have knockers?"
ROFLMEO :rollin:

Much Love,
~JrMTC~

[ljenab]

Originally posted by Selena
You think that previous statement got you into trouble ... boy are you niave ljenab ... you definitely can't get away with such scant details ...

... we would like you to clarify the above ... do tell ... just how did you happen to be in this predicament???

Yikes, it sounds like I really had fun at a convention, but alas . . . . :rollin: OK, kids, here's the story of how I saw Ms. Edgely and Ms. Hill all nekkid:

I swear I didn't go looking for them, :ewink: but I came across the pictures (and in Ms. Hill's case, stills and a clip from the movie "Hotel de Love") on the web and in alt.binaries.multimedia.farscape. Gigi did a nude photo shoot for a magazine (I don't know which). There is a full portfolio of picures, both black and white and color, which are artsy and feisty (as you might imagine) at the same time. It's all a bit too much for a fanboy to handle, actually.

Raelee also did a photo shoot with another woman (Allison Cratchley). They appear to be "buddy" shots promoting something or other (though exactly what, given that their naked or close to naked in every picture) I'm not sure. Sigh.

Please don't ask me to post anything, because (a) I didn't keep them and (b) this isn't that kind of board (thank goodness) (though this thread has me wondering . . . .)

[grinner]

just post links... :lech::huh:

[ljenab]

Originally posted by grinner
just post links... :lech::huh:

No, no, DOWN BOY :whip:

[grinner]

whips and chains... whips and chains... :lech:

[Selena]

Well thank you for that scintillating report. We were getting worried that you might have had far more fun than anyone should be allowed to at one of the Cons where the said ladies were present.

[Judith]

Originally posted by ljenab


I swear I didn't go looking for them, :ewink: but I came across the pictures (and in Ms. Hill's case, stills and a clip from the movie "Hotel de Love") on the web and in alt.binaries.multimedia.farscape.

She was in Hotel de Love? I saw that a long time ago...don't remember her, but I barely remember the movie. It was kinda weird though.

[JadedLegend3]

Originally posted by grinner
whips and chains... whips and chains... :lech:


grinner, why is it you can't behave anywhere? :P


Jacqui :love:

[BlackThorn]

Try having arms and legs that are too long for the size of your torso -- or a torso that is too short for the rest of you. And hips that are imbalanced according to the size of your waist and chest. Can't buy most dresses because they're too long in the torso or too small in the hips (or on the reverse too large in the chest.) I've only found one specific kind of jeans that work for me because all the others are either too short in the leg, too tight in the hips, or too big in the waist. General problems buying long sleeved shirts because my arms are too long compared to the size of my torso.

Thus the reason why I tend to find one pair of pants (or anything) that I like and buy multiple pairs of the same thing because I never know when they're going to discontinue it, and if they do, I'm SoL.

Random fact: Most people's arm width from tip to tip is as long as they are tall. Mine are a couple inches too long.

And sports bras are my hero.

[I-am-so-Johns-girl]

Originally posted by JadedLegend3
grinner, why is it you can't behave anywhere? :P


Jacqui :love:

Seems like you can't dress him OR take him anywhere! ;)

[ljenab]

Originally posted by Selena
Well thank you for that scintillating report. We were getting worried that you might have had far more fun than anyone should be allowed to at one of the Cons where the said ladies were present.

I wish. ACTually, my heart belongs to Claudia anyway. Sigh. :love:

[JadedLegend3]

Originally posted by I-am-so-Johns-girl
Seems like you can't dress him OR take him anywhere! ;)

LOL prolly not!


Jacqui :love:

[grinner]

Originally posted by I-am-so-Johns-girl
Seems like you can't dress him OR take him anywhere! ;) no I actually clean up quite well.

[sny]

Originally posted by canadadoc
Yes and when you do figure one out they discontinue the "model", just like your favourite lipstick colour !!! I hate that.

c.

That's what forced me to start bra shopping overseas. I had exactly one model of Playtex bra that I could just squeeze into, and then they stopped making it in a 34DDD. Which didn't really fit anyway, but it was the closest I could get because the cups stretched. Bali made what I like to call "alleged DDDs", but they were closer to DD cups in Playtex, so I had that lovely "quadraboob" look when I tried to wear them, and half my breasts squashed against my chest wall and under my arm. And Bali has a very wide "flat bit that goes between your breasts" in all their styles. Which I don't need. There's like a centimeter of "plain" between my "peaks". And I need an underwire, darn it. None of those stretchy "we fit nine billion sizes comfy sleep bra from 32A to 52J" things for me.

I'm telling you, if I hadn't discovered www.bravissimo.com and www.figleaves.com (I used to order from their British site, before Bioforms migrated to their U.S. site, too), it would be hazardous for me to walk fast and I would own virtually no nice lingerie and a lot fewer clothes. Bravissimo is this fabulous British site that caters to the well endowed. Strappy tops with built in underwire bras that actually work and their fitted tops are an absolute God-send, as far as I'm concerned.

Lipstick I'm not so picky about.

Stacie

[auroraSun]

Originally posted by Selena
Just because a Hynerian is aquatic does not mean that they do not nurse their young. There's all manner of strange creatures on our planet so why would they be any different on UT planets?
Take the Platypus for instance ... it is aquatic, has a bill like a duck, fur and webbed feet, lays eggs and suckles it's young ... I've heard Aussies refer to it as God's left overs.

but you do not need fatty breasts to nurse young. in other words, they do not need to stay "inflated" (I know it is a bad description), all the time. But Farscape has all the females have breast except that one in the Flax.

If you can't tell am trying to steer clear of the OT bra sizing discussion :0

[sny]

Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
No, I do understand the difficulty of not being the standard as far as clothes go. Like some other people here...my bra size is bigger than it should be in proportion to the rest of my body. I actually have a hard time finding shirts sometimes. It seems like lately in America (don't know about anywhere else) there's been a fashion trend towards smaller breasts. Lately it seems like the prettier a shirt is, the more likely it's made for smaller breasts. And ALL button shirts are out.

Like I say, Britain seems to be the most boob-friendly country there is. I love these cute little strappy tops, and yes, they do hold me up. I can even take the straps off my shoulders and wander around for hours, and they don't budge. I did that the night I received it in the mail to test its claim that the straps are mostly for looks, and the rest of the hidden bra does the heavy lifting.

http://www.bravissimo.com/scripts/viewcategory.cgi?db_charact1=strappy_tops

And they recently added a fitted top. With three sizes within each size. It's only in white for now, as they just introduced it, but I'm telling you, that's what I'm getting myself for Christmas. It's been ages (like since I was nine) since I've had a button up blouse that really fit properly. I have the additional problem of being very narrow in the shoulders.

http://www.bravissimo.com/web/shopping/shirt_info.html

I've ordered from them repeatedly, and I've always had a great experience.

Stacie

[Judith]

Originally posted by auroraSun
but you do not need fatty breasts to nurse young. in other words, they do not need to stay "inflated" (I know it is a bad description), all the time. But Farscape has all the females have breast except that one in the Flax.



And to make things more complicated...If I'm not wrong, I believe that we're the only species on earth with breasts that are "inflated" while we're not pregnant or nursing.

[sny]

Originally posted by auroraSun
but you do not need fatty breasts to nurse young. in other words, they do not need to stay "inflated" (I know it is a bad description), all the time. But Farscape has all the females have breast except that one in the Flax.

If you can't tell am trying to steer clear of the OT bra sizing discussion :0

What's to say they're even for nursing? Being the little pleasure-seeking machines they are, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't there just for recreation and nothing else. Not everything has to have some high-priority evolutionary purpose. Or for that matter, make sense.

Or, well, they're amphibious, so perhaps they're reallly flotation devices.

Stacie

[SaraD]

my gawd, look what I started.

[Hmpf]

Originally posted by sny
Or, well, they're amphibious, so perhaps they're reallly flotation devices.


Oooh, I like *that* theory!

[Hmpf]

Originally posted by SaraD
my gawd, look what I started.

I hope that was an exclamation of pride, not shock! ;-)

[sny]

Originally posted by Hmpf
I hope that was an exclamation of pride, not shock! ;-)

Can't be shock. Not if SaraD was around for both the "ignore this thread" thread and the infamous "cat vomit" thread. Breasts are gonna stir wayyyyyyyy more replies than either of those.

More "breast people" in both senses of the word than there are "cat people" I bet.

Stacie

[BlackThorn]

Originally posted by sny
Can't be shock. Not if SaraD was around for both the "ignore this thread" thread and the infamous "cat vomit" thread. Breasts are gonna stir wayyyyyyyy more replies than either of those.

More "breast people" in both senses of the word than there are "cat people" I bet.

Stacie

Well, considering one gender has 'em and a good portion of the other gender likes 'em . . . yeah.

[JadedLegend3]

Originally posted by BlackThorn
Well, considering one gender has 'em and a good portion of the other gender likes 'em . . . yeah.


LOL if that isn't the understatement of the year! hehehe :rollin:


Jacqui :love:

[trubador]

Try finding a decent pair of shoes in a EE or EEE (9-1/2) that don't make you :hork: when you look at 'em. Or a decent pair of men's slacks with an odd sized waist but an even sized inseam.

[SaraD]

I'm not that easily shocked, but I am amazed at the ... turn in direction, I guess. From alien bumps to Bavissimo.

[sny]

Originally posted by SaraD
I'm not that easily shocked, but I am amazed at the ... turn in direction, I guess. From alien bumps to Bavissimo.

Well, come on, even Miss Junior Tough Chick of The Universe can't kick serious eema unless she's got the right kind of "lifting and separating" action going on.

Akhna can't concentrate on squashing entire galaxies under her heel if her underwire's poking her in the wrong spot.

And how, pray tell, is a girl supposed to walk on ceilings if all she's worried about is that her loomas might fall out of her top? I bet that's why Frau Blucher was so cranky. Couldn't find a cute little strappy top in her size. Boobs are serious business, even in the UTs.

Stacie

[JrMissToughChick]

Originally posted by sny
Well, come on, even Miss Junior Tough Chick of The Universe can't kick serious eema unless she's got the right kind of "lifting and separating" action going on.

ROFLMEO :rollin: okay did some one call, or is that a Chiana Ref?
Funny He He

BTW: I always thought "Jirls Kick Eema" should be on a tee shirt
It reminds me of that Dark Angel Quote, "'Girls Kick ass' saw it on a tee-shirt," what do you think?

~JrMTC~

[JadedLegend3]

Originally posted by JrMissToughChick
ROFLMEO :rollin: okay did some one call, or is that a Chiana Ref?
Funny He He

BTW: I always thought "Jirls Kick Eema" should be on a tee shirt
It reminds me of that Dark Angel Quote, "'Girls Kick ass' saw it on a tee-shirt," what do you think?

~JrMTC~


JrMTC,

Did you get that shirt from saneTV with your name on it? It's awesome. I got mine, but the Chirstmas Nazi has confiscated it until the big day.... :pissed:


Jacqui :love:

[sny]

Originally posted by JrMissToughChick
ROFLMEO :rollin: okay did some one call, or is that a Chiana Ref?
Funny He He

~JrMTC~

Conveniently enough, both. Girl can't lead a frontal assault when she's being assaulted by her front. Personally, I like the "Jirl Power" one. Well, that and I'd like a shirt that says "Talk Nerdy To Me."

Perhaps Santa will hear.

Stacie

[JrMissToughChick]

Yeah I like that Jirl Power tee also I am Probely going to buy it.

~JrMTC~

[JrMissToughChick]

Originally posted by JadedLegend3
JrMTC,

Did you get that shirt from saneTV with your name on it? It's awesome. I got mine, but the Chirstmas Nazi has confiscated it until the big day.... :pissed:


Jacqui :love:
No sorry I just said it would be cool I thought about making them.

Much Love
~JrMTC~

[JrMissToughChick]

oh you ment they make one that's cool I think I might get it.

~JrMTC~