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Madre Farbot
12-17-2003, 12:12 PM
Taken from the BostonHerald
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Fur flies over flier: PETA targets ‘Nutcracker’ kids
Animal rights advocates will single out small children at performances of 'The Nutcracker' in the next few weeks by handing out fliers saying "Your Mommy Kills Animals'' to youngsters whose mothers are wearing fur. "Children can't look up to a mom in a battered-raccoon hat or a crushed coyote collar,'' said Ingrid Newkirk, president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. "Maybe when they're confronted by their own children's hurt looks, fur-wearers' cold hearts will melt.''
The fliers include a color drawing of a woman plunging a large bloody knife into the belly of a terrified rabbit. The fliers urge kids to "ask your mommy how many dead animals she killed to make her fur clothes. "And the sooner she stops wearing fur, the sooner the animals will be safe. Until then, keep your doggie or kitty friends away from mommy - she's an animal killer.''
Brookline child psychologist Dr. Carolyn Newberger called the tactics "terribly dangerous to children.'' "It's using children in the worst possible way,'' she said. "If (the activists) want to legitimately work to protect animals from destruction for fashion, they have every right to. But to do so by targeting children and making them feel their mothers are murderers is absolutely unconscionable.''
Lisa Franzetta, a national coordinator for PETA, said the group will launch its "fur-ocious'' protest at `Nutcracker' performances in as many as 20 cities across the United States. Franzetta, who is based in California, said yesterday she did not yet know when the protests will begin in Boston, where "The Nutcracker'' is playing at the Wang Center for the Performing Arts in the Theater District.
Franzetta acknowledged the anti-fur campaign might spark a backlash. "It's definitely provocative, I will give you that,'' she said.
Wang Center officials could not be reached for comment about the planned protests.
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There really ought to be an organization for the protection of normal human life against the stupidity of animal activists.
fermicat
12-17-2003, 12:15 PM
I think children should be left out of this, and other issues. Trying to reach adults in this manner is reprehensible.
NebariNookiee
12-17-2003, 12:18 PM
I'll tell you what -- someone were to pull this type of thing to my kids they're going end up with a broken jaw. :evil:
How to tell if someone is full of sh!t -- if someone preaches about fur but wears leather shoes.
Jaxa Logan
12-17-2003, 12:20 PM
I like animals as much as anybody, but the true crime here is what they plan on doing to those poor kids! This is way more than crossing the line of common decency.
Jax
How would the Protesters like it if someone gave there kids a flier that said "Your mommy is insane!"
DentArthurDent
12-17-2003, 12:23 PM
Agreed. Making a child into a pawn in this way IS reprehensible. And Stupid. It won't be long until they are vigorously sued for taking such actions. If you have a problem with FUR talk to the person that owns it. Do not blackmail them, or hold their children hostage. Provacative? yeah, so is the fist at the end of my arm...
AFD
Mrelia
12-17-2003, 12:24 PM
OK, this might be treading on thin ice here in regards to "Da Rules", but it really does relate to this thread, not the banned topic. If it's out of line, I hope the mods won't be too mad at me.
It's like some protesters who recently came from out of town and set up their big, color pictures of aborted fetuses outside a women's clinic across the street from a Montessori school. Many local groups with the same desires regarding abortion were outraged that these people were terrorising innocent children to further their agenda.
People who abuse children's trust and innocence in that way are one of the lowest forms of life!
PS - Here in Texas, the fur-fighters' tactic is likely to backfire. "Momma didn't shoot that racoon...I did!" :D
You know why they protest fur and usually not leather. It's more fun to pick on rich women than bikers!
NebariNookiee
12-17-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Mrelia
You know why they protest fur and usually not leather. It's more fun to pick on rich women than bikers! :roflmao: AMEN!!!!!
talyn3
12-17-2003, 12:37 PM
Using little kids is crossing the line. Don't they have any common sense, I hope this isn't an idea of how they can get in papers and stuff. Stupid
Judith
12-17-2003, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by talyn3
Using little kids is crossing the line. Don't they have any common sense, I hope this isn't an idea of how they can get in papers and stuff. Stupid
Do they have common sense? Of course not. It's PETA. Crossing the line? Damn, just add it to their list. I'm outraged but not suprised.
PETA is already responsible for making animal groups who want to fight cruelty towards animals through sane methods (such as legislation) look less credible. You want to increase penalties for animal abuse (as is my goal)? You must be one of those PETA psychos.
But that's not enough for them? Now they're gonna traumatize children? I HATE these people. Fine. Make inflammatory comments towards me and other adults. You'll annoy us, but most of are used to it. LEAVE KIDS OUT OF IT. In any political tactic. LEAVE KIDS OUT OF IT. They're too young to even really weigh the pros and cons and come to their own conclusions. Bastards.
<rant over>
For now.
VBKatLou
12-17-2003, 03:23 PM
Using kids in this fashion is irreprehensible. While I don't believe in killing animals for fashion, two wrongs don't make a right. And why performances of the Nutcracker Suite?
BrowderChick
12-17-2003, 06:27 PM
OMG!!! You have got to be kidding. That is not right to be doing that to children. I hope this lady gets hers coming to her. If my child received that and I found the person who did it, I don't know how I would handle it but I would be PO'd to say the least. Can that be a form of child endangerment to be putting that kind of image in a child's head of their mommy killing a bunny?
Shipscat
12-17-2003, 06:30 PM
This really doesn't sound very likely..even as rabid as PETA can be, I doubt that they would want to deal with the lawsuits.
who45
12-17-2003, 06:31 PM
No matter if you're for or against wearing fur, using children like this is disgusting.
BrowderChick
12-17-2003, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by who45
No matter if you're for or against wearing fur, using children like this is disgusting.
I agree. And the people handing out the fliers probably don't realize that the purse or wallet they have is made from an animal. Is that being too pushy?
Judith
12-17-2003, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Shipscat
This really doesn't sound very likely..even as rabid as PETA can be, I doubt that they would want to deal with the lawsuits.
I'm not sure about that. I think they're of the "any publicity is good publicity" persuasion.
JadedLegend3
12-17-2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
I'm not sure about that. I think they're of the "any publicity is good publicity" persuasion.
I don't know about that. I'm a proud member of PETA, and I don't agree with that. I also don't always agree with the things that they do, like the article mentioned above, but I still support their efforts 100%. They're the best animal rights group out there...meaning they get the most accomplished for the animals.
Jacqui :love:
Judith
12-17-2003, 08:23 PM
Respectfully, I don't like their "ends justify the means" approach to this and other issues. Which is why I do not support them, but I do support many other animal welfare groups.
JadedLegend3
12-17-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
Respectfully, I don't like their "ends justify the means" approach to this and other issues. Which is why I do not support them, but I do support many other animal welfare groups.
I didn't mean for there to be anything hostile in my post. I know that they have their moments, but I also know that a very small portion of the members of PETA are like those mentioned in this article. But they get all the publicity because of these foolish stunts they pool. It's like how everyone remember the hippies as the big thing in the '60's, but they were only like, 10% of the population. The fanatics in PETA are a very small percentage, too.
Jacqui :love:
Judith
12-17-2003, 08:30 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound hostile either. We're both passionate about reducing animal cruelty. I know it's hard for me not to get hyped about it. :)
On a lighter note, I swear I just saw a commerical that had Santa dancing to "Superfreak".
JadedLegend3
12-17-2003, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound hostile either. We're both passionate about reducing animal cruelty. I know it's hard for me not to get hyped about it. :)
On a lighter note, I swear I just saw a commerical that had Santa dancing to "Superfreak".
Frell you and mentioning songs that get stuck in my head!!! LOL Remember that thread? Did it get pruned? LOL
P.S., I love you too! :hug:
Jacqui :love:
Judith
12-17-2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by JadedLegend3
Frell you and mentioning songs that get stuck in my head!!! LOL Remember that thread? Did it get pruned? LOL
P.S., I love you too!
I it's any consolation...I just got it stuck in my own head.
You rock, Jacqui!
JadedLegend3
12-18-2003, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by Judith_Shakespeare
I it's any consolation...I just got it stuck in my own head.
You rock, Jacqui!
hahaha good! It is a consolation! But since I just woke up and re-read this thread...it's in there again. LOL
Jacqui :love:
eta_carinae
12-18-2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by VBKatLou
And why performances of the Nutcracker Suite?
Because people tend to get dressed up for the ballet more than other performances (more likely to wear fur) and alot of parents take their children to see the Nutcracker.
chip5541
12-21-2003, 03:07 AM
Heaven help the person who hands my sons anything like this. This is reprehensible and borders child abuse!
Scarran Raptor
12-21-2003, 03:18 PM
what if the woman's wearing synthetic fur? answer that one, PETA! still, using kids, that's just WRONG! how can one group do so much good for animals on one hand pull off some stupid dren like this right afterward? as for the use of animals in clothing and food I believe in killing them as humanely as possible, I set up the pen on the edge of the cliff, in front of them is a widescreen TV playing the galactica miniseries, on the other side is an open gate leading off the cliff, either the animal becomes braindead or it keeps its wits and commits suicide, either way it's a more humane death
Madre Farbot
12-21-2003, 03:43 PM
I visited the PETA website today to try and find any info regarding a timeline that would warn people when this campaign is supposed to start and found nothing. So I'm hoping (futilely) that maybe they were testing this new campaign to gauge the kind of reaction that maybe expected.
I'm hoping that these people will see that some of their ideas for shocking some people is only going to shock and disgust most people, and I just wish that these people would stop using the old shock routine. It's not convincing anybody it's just making good people get mad.
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