Any Bloopers on Region 2 DVDs?

[atlantagirl]

I was watching my new 4.1 DVD last night and had a big laugh over the Season 2 bloopers that were included, and I was wondering if any of the Contender DVDs have bloopers? I've been thinking about buying a region free DVD player and getting the Region 2 sets (despite the fact that I have all the Region 1 ones already). I know they have more deleted scenes and some different extras and since this is the first DVD ADV has put bloopers on it made me wonder if Contender had some on their disks.

Also, from Amazon.uk it looks as though Contender only has boxed sets of S1 and S2, is that right? Do y'all know if they are planning to put out boxed sets for S3 and 4 too?

[Sawyer's Miller]

There are plenty of deleted scenes to be had on the Contender DVDs - there is also a really good blooper real on the 4.5 DVD. There is also the "Farwell" extra on 4.5, which I consider to be required viewing for any Scaper.

As for the boxed sets, yes Contender have done a set for S1 and S2, if you want newer episodes, you'll have to buy the individual boxes (five boxes per season)

[leeturnbull]

Having a few of the season region 1 DVDs and all the region 2 DVDs I think the American Ones have good content and The UK ones look great, the menus are great the content is great too especially 4.5 which also I think would be a great purchase for anyone in the US, well worth the money.

http://www.contendergroup.com/KULT-TV/FARSCAPE/fs4dvd.asp?pagename=fs4dvd

Just take a look at those extras!!

Leee

[Kalliope]

Originally posted by atlantagirl
I was watching my new 4.1 DVD last night and had a big laugh over the Season 2 bloopers that were included, and I was wondering if any of the Contender DVDs have bloopers? I've been thinking about buying a region free DVD player and getting the Region 2 sets (despite the fact that I have all the Region 1 ones already). I know they have more deleted scenes and some different extras and since this is the first DVD ADV has put bloopers on it made me wonder if Contender had some on their disks.

Also, from Amazon.uk it looks as though Contender only has boxed sets of S1 and S2, is that right? Do y'all know if they are planning to put out boxed sets for S3 and 4 too?

Contender UK is working on Season 3 Boxset, let's hope it'll be later this year... :)
I recommend you Season 2 Boxset, you can find there 3 commentaries previously released only in Australia - MTB with Lani Tupu, Andrew Prowse and David Kemper, WGFA with Rowan Woods and David Kemper and DMD also with Rowan Woods and David Kemper, + 2 commentaries from US ADV - CDM with Claudia Black and Ian Watson and WGFA with Rowan Woods and Ricky Manning.

[atlantagirl]

Thanks everyone! :D

[Under A Dying Sun]

anyone have ANY idea why r1,r2,r3 have are all not the same and have different extras/menus.

i understand that they are different companies, but why not just have one uniform menu/extras sets for worldwide distribution?

[General]

Here's a question for everyone. Will region 1,2 and 3 all play in the same DVD player, and what is the difference in the regions?? I Dunno

General

[atlantagirl]

They'll only play on the same player if you have a multi-region dvd player (some single region players can be converted using codes you can find on the internet).

Region 1 is North America
Region 2 is Europe and Japan

I don't know all the other regions.

An off-the-shelf DVD player bought in the US will not be able to play anything other than a Region 1 disk (although you might possibly be able to convert it with the proper codes).

[JrMissToughChick]

4 Oz

[General]

Thank you AG:aok:

[vhsiv]

Originally posted by Under A Dying Sun
anyone have ANY idea why r1,r2,r3 have are all not the same and have different extras/menus.

i understand that they are different companies, but why not just have one uniform menu/extras sets for worldwide distribution? The movie studios and manufactuers instituted the region-coding scheme in ordr to have greater control over the distribution of their products and wares, but it seems to only create more problems since some products exist only in R2 and R4 markets, though there's a global demand for many films and serials that have been published on DVD.

Ideally, you'd have similar content on all of the various iterations of the same product - R1, R2, R3, R4 - but the siple fact is that the company that publishes last has greater access to extra material than the first, and the early-birds and early-adopters just have to suffer for their hubris.

And R4 also covers Central, if not South America and S. Asia and Oz.

[atlantagirl]

Originally posted by vhsiv
Ideally, you'd have similar content on all of the various iterations of the same product - R1, R2, R3, R4 - but the siple fact is that the company that publishes last has greater access to extra material than the first, and the early-birds and early-adopters just have to suffer for their hubris.

But that wouldn't explain why the UK company (Contender) puts more extras on their Region 2 DVDs than ADV puts on the Region 1 DVDs that we have in the US. I don't know if Contender started putting their disks out before ADV, but they certainly finished their sets first. 4.5 has been out in the UK for some time and we're just on 4.1.

[Under A Dying Sun]

AG, that's what i thought as well...

thanks for the info vhsiv.

i cannot think off the top of my head of any other tvshow/movie that has a substantial amount of different extras/material on r1-r4 dvds.

[BJD]

To answer the original question the Season 2 bloopers reel on the Region 1 DVD is the same as the one on the Region 2 DVD.

As to who has most extras I'd say that for the most part they're the same except that the Region 1 DVD's have audio commentaries on the regular releases - and the Region 2 DVD's don't (although the recently released season 1 & 2 boxsets have the R1 commentaries on them.) The only thing specific to Region 2 is the "Farscape Undressed" special and an audio commentary by Lani Tupu on "Relativity" but thats it - but us folks in Europe have never seen "F.U." anyhow.

For the most part Region 1 DVD's are superior to Region 2 DVD's in terms of extras in general. They're often cheaper too and they have something 10x the number of titles.

The R2 DVD's final release does have the "Farewell to Farscape" featurette but the R1 ones will probably have it too when it gets to the final one as well.

The Region 4 DVD's have a few region specific commentaries as well but they're mostly by the directors etc:

WGFA - David Kemper and Rowan Woods
MTB - Lani Tupu, David Kemper and Andew Prowse
TWWW - Guy Gross (composer)
DMD - David Kemper and Rowan Woods
The Choice - Justin Monjo and Rowan Woods

plus a couple more.

[BritAngie]

Just to add BJD-the blooper reel we have has S1,S2 and S3 on it not just S2. :)

Although the US disks have the commentaries I find the uk ones have some extras aswell. Also the uk disks are from the PAL original Australian Farscape master recordings whereas the eps have had to be converted to NTSC for the US and this does something slightly wiggy to the audio I've been told.

I can't recommend getting Region 2 4.5 enough-it's must view dvd!

Also the reason each dvd company creates their own dvd's is because Hensons only supply the source material and let each one do their own thing menus etc wise. Consequently you get different presentation and different things.

[ranger1]

i have to agree with my scaper friends who've watched the R2 dvd's.... especially 4.5's special features! that blooper reel almost knocked me out of my chair, and the 'farewell' reel made it all feel very personal again - i don't think any other show would have included something so personal in a public release. it was almost like the fans of the show were the acknowledged 'fifth column' of the whole production - if i'm using that analogy correctly. it was like they all were just confirming that we were as much a part of their family as they are of ours. (sniff)

the only thing i did not like from R2's dvd's was in the last part of s4 where they put in the edited (BBC broadcast versions) episodes from where Aeryn kills her cellmate, the cellmate's unborn child is killed, and there was at least one other instance that was edited out - specific actions where John makes his pact w/Scorpius. i'm not saying that these instances were eye candy, but i believe a powerful story shouldn't be censored like it was. in fact, i think some of the scenes were very difficult to watch, but stayed true to the story. the US broadcasts did not edit anything of these instances.

[BritAngie]

Originally posted by ranger1
i have to agree with my scaper friends who've watched the R2 dvd's.... especially 4.5's special features! that blooper reel almost knocked me out of my chair, and the 'farewell' reel made it all feel very personal again - i don't think any other show would have included something so personal in a public release. it was almost like the fans of the show were the acknowledged 'fifth column' of the whole production - if i'm using that analogy correctly. it was like they all were just confirming that we were as much a part of their family as they are of ours. (sniff)

the only thing i did not like from R2's dvd's was in the last part of s4 where they put in the edited (BBC broadcast versions) episodes from where Aeryn kills her cellmate, the cellmate's unborn child is killed, and there was at least one other instance that was edited out - specific actions where John makes his pact w/Scorpius. i'm not saying that these instances were eye candy, but i believe a powerful story shouldn't be censored like it was. in fact, i think some of the scenes were very difficult to watch, but stayed true to the story. the US broadcasts did not edit anything of these instances.

Are you sure about the last lot of Season 4 stuff? Contender gets its eps from Hensons not the BBC so any cuts may have been due to the national censors to get a PG or 12 or whatever cert it needed to have. Also the scorpy scene-is that the one where he drinks his blood? I saw that on the bbc version... Also when I was screen capping the ep when Aeryn kills her cellmate I'm sure they showed that.. or I could be remembering wrong...

[ScapeFreak]

Originally posted by ranger1

the only thing i did not like from R2's dvd's was in the last part of s4 where they put in the edited (BBC broadcast versions) episodes from where Aeryn kills her cellmate, the cellmate's unborn child is killed,

It is true that the BBC broadcasts had these edited out HOWEVER all the R2 DVDs have uncut and unedited episodes. I am 101% sure of this as i still have the downloaded BBC version eps to compare.

[Kalliope]

Originally posted by BritAngie
Are you sure about the last lot of Season 4 stuff? Contender gets its eps from Hensons not the BBC so any cuts may have been due to the national censors to get a PG or 12 or whatever cert it needed to have. Also the scorpy scene-is that the one where he drinks his blood? I saw that on the bbc version... Also when I was screen capping the ep when Aeryn kills her cellmate I'm sure they showed that.. or I could be remembering wrong...

BBC showed the scene of killing Aeryn's cellmate in "Prayer" , but they didn't show the scene of "abortion", when Captain Jenek terminated Morrock's pregnancy and killed the foetus.

[ranger1]

BritAngie - i can always re-watch those eps (dang - now i have another excuse!), but what i remember from the "Aeryn killing her cellmate scene" was that BBC did show the killing, but not the few seconds where you could hear the actual snap of the neck. also, the "blood pact" scene was shown, but not the actual tongue of Scorpius licking John's finger (somehow i think that your censors might have thought this to be a little too homo-erotic), and as Kalliope has said, the scene of the fetus's death was done, but not the actual screen cap of the baby inside the mother's womb jerking until it was dead and the mom screaming at the same time (i.e., the actual abortion part). that part was the most disturbing scene, IMO, of all 4 seasons, but it got it's point across of the ruthlessness of the scarrans.

ScapeFreak - i have replied to you in another thread as well, but i may be more specific in my description of the scenes in question in this thread. concerning these parts, i propose that we all watch them again to confirm if what i have specifically described in this post is there or not. believe me, i wish i was wrong about these points, but seeing as you did not have the opportunity to see the US broadcasts (i am guessing you are from the UK) there is some material you did not have a chance to see in the first place. it totally sucks, but i believe that contender did not use - at least for these eps in question - the original US source material. i don't believe i could have had such a detailed memory of these scenes if in fact they did not happen that way, but i am willing to be proven that they did not happen, and go watch those scenes again! :)

[BritAngie]

Originally posted by ranger1


ScapeFreak - i have replied to you in another thread as well, but i may be more specific in my description of the scenes in question in this thread. concerning these parts, i propose that we all watch them again to confirm if what i have specifically described in this post is there or not. believe me, i wish i was wrong about these points, but seeing as you did not have the opportunity to see the US broadcasts (i am guessing you are from the UK) there is some material you did not have a chance to see in the first place. it totally sucks, but i believe that contender did not use - at least for these eps in question - the original US source material. i don't believe i could have had such a detailed memory of these scenes if in fact they did not happen that way, but i am willing to be proven that they did not happen, and go watch those scenes again! :)

Just a quick note on "US source material". The US tv broadcasts are not the main source for the UK DVD's. The masters are PAL (as that's the video standard they tape in over in Australia) and held by Hensons. These eps were then provided to Sci fi,ADV and the BBC and Contender independently who each did what they needed to in terms of conversion to ntsc (for ADV and sci fi) etc. So the US sci fi broadcast would have had scenes of an extreme sexual content like Scorpy and Natira in LG&M edited out which we got in full here in the UK but the US didn't,and those of a violent and disturbing nature for a 6pm broadcast edited out in the BBC version. The DVD versions for the US and the Uk *should* be completely unedited *except*when they need to get past the censors. I believe a headbutt was taken out of one of the UK dvd's because headbutts attract a higher certificate rating here. I can only think it's that sort of thing that would ulitmately effect any editing-to get a release certificate.

[ScapeFreak]

@ranger1: Like i said i am right ;) I've got the proof you need in the other thread.

http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19288

[ranger1]

i'm willing to be proved wrong. :) i will "have" to watch them over, for 'peace of mind'. :D no hard feelings, scapefreak? in fact, this is an instance i don't mind being proved wrong.

[ScapeFreak]

Originally posted by ranger1
no hard feelings, scapefreak? in fact, this is an instance i don't mind being proved wrong.

Np :) I have a crystal clear memory when it comes to things related to Farscape ;)

[Kalliope]

I believe UK DVDs are completely unedited, Season 2 Boxset is rated 18 'cause of the extreme violence in HOTR episode. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to call all of them "full and uncut".

[BJD]

Originally posted by BritAngie
Just to add BJD-the blooper reel we have has S1,S2 and S3 on it not just S2. :)

Sorry for the confusion but I meant that the blooper reel you're referring to is exactly the same on the R2 DVD's as it is on the R1 discs.

Although the US disks have the commentaries I find the uk ones have some extras aswell. Also the uk disks are from the PAL original Australian Farscape master recordings whereas the eps have had to be converted to NTSC for the US and this does something slightly wiggy to the audio I've been told.

I wasn't saying that the R2 DVD's have no extras on them just that they're the same the R1 ones, but the R1 ones have commentaries and ours do not.

Originally posted by BritAngie
Also the reason each dvd company creates their own dvd's is because Hensons only supply the source material and let each one do their own thing menus etc wise. Consequently you get different presentation and different things.

Well to be honest since the menu's etc are simply created from existing video footage I would say that its entirely up to ADV/Contender how well they package and produce their DVD's and on that score Contender wins hands down! Although to be fair the R2 discs have been released so quickly that there possibly wasn't time to release audio commentaries for them since the cast take their time to do these - for instance the commentary for "The Choice" I think it was - Cluadia actually recorded that after the cancellation was announced because she actually mentions how upset she was about it - and by that time the Region 2 disc containing "The Choice" had already been released by Contender I believe.

[BJD]

Originally posted by Kalliope
Contender UK is working on Season 3 Boxset, let's hope it'll be later this year... :)
I recommend you Season 2 Boxset, you can find there 3 commentaries previously released only in Australia - MTB with Lani Tupu, Andrew Prowse and David Kemper, WGFA with Rowan Woods and David Kemper and DMD also with Rowan Woods and David Kemper, + 2 commentaries from US ADV - CDM with Claudia Black and Ian Watson and WGFA with Rowan Woods and Ricky Manning.

Its good that they're being released here finally but its galling for those of us who've already bought the regular DVD's that do not have these commentaries, and I for one will not be going out of my way to buy them all over again!

[Kalliope]

Actually, I've always been wondering why Contender UK is so in hurry in releasing Farscape DVDs, it would be much better to wait a while and give us more. But on the other hand they released Aussie commentaries for Season 2, and ADV didn't.