Saddest Moment

[Wererat42]

I'm not sure if this poll has already been done. If it has, I apologize in advance.

[jeffrabb]

Nope! Good choices too!

Jeff

[JrMissToughChick]

They are good ones

~JrMTC~

[Harveylives]

My personal choice is not on there. The season 3 cliffhanger.

[JrMissToughChick]

oh yeah that one I'm with you

~JrMTC~

[chri-baby]

Can there be a sadder moment than that sole wrenching D'argo scream? there probably can and with our luck and the sadistic nature of the writers we'll be experiencing it in the Mini.
Can't wait!!! :smokin:

[MySideYourSide]

I can't believe how few people have picked Zhaan's death! She was such a great character and everyone else had such an emotional link to her. You felt their hope to help her regain her strength, and you felt their sadness when she said her goodbyes (well, I did).

She was also the first major character to die (starting a trend for the third season). It was something very daring for the show to do.

[chri-baby]

I can hear what your saying MySideYourSide but I just did'nt feel much when she died. I had expected to die ever since the season premier infact I can remember being surprised she lasted so long. I also felt that it was a good trade.. Zhaan for Aeryn.

[Gargunza]

Actually, I can't believe no one put Gilina's death up there! Poor kid never even had a chance....

--Mattttt

[Ouroboros]

Aeryn's death would be my choice. Sure I knew she was going to be back since I watched the eps out of order so it didn't really effect me but old skool snippy Aeryn was my favorite character at the time. I've got to give Guy Gross props on the music again. Without that music the scene wouldn't have been half as powerful.

I was too interested in Jool to care overmuch when Zhaan died.:aok: and I can't believe no ones feels sorry for Jenek! The man got toothpasted by a nuclear bomb and no one even cares. Who mourns for poor Jenek, is he not human, if you prick him does he not bleed... and threaten you with a screaming death at the hands of his heat beam? It's just because he's a Scarran isn't it! Isn't it!

[JrMissToughChick]

Originally posted by Gargunza
Actually, I can't believe no one put Gilina's death up there! Poor kid never even had a chance....

--Mattttt I think I read somewhere that she was originally going to die in the Flax but the liked her so much they wanted to write a two parter for her to die in later. So you are right she had no chance.

~JrMTC~

[chri-baby]

in answer to your question ouroboros, NO.. Actually if you pricked him he would'nt bleed! that boys got skin as tough as a crocodiles after its been reinforced with titanium soaked in concrete and left to harden through a million years of evolution.:lizard:
It would take a Bazuka to prick his hide!
:elol: :signlol:

[Ouroboros]

What if I "pricked" him with this

[chri-baby]

it might do the trick, as long as you dont look like your posing for an "accountants with ammo" calender doing it.

[leeturnbull]

at the time ending of season four, double sad! as we thought that was us left high and dry with no more farscape, here in the UK after the episode ended the commentator for BBC2 said "Despite what it says on the tin, that really was the last episode of farscape...unless, go to the Farscape website to find out more"

It was horrible moment for me, as all the above are sad, and there has been a lot of them in the 88 episodes, but I am sure you will agree the thought of no more Farscape and no conclusion is the saddest by far!


Lee

[Eiley]

My choice also is the season three cliff hanger. The conversation between Crichton and Aeryn is so sad and frustrating.

[Jat]

Originally posted by Ouroboros
It's just because he's a Scarran isn't it! Isn't it!

Yea it is cause hes a smelly scarren, I feel sorry for Chiana more than him cause she tried kicking one in the nuts :D

Yea I agree with leeturnbull, when I was half way through season 2, I was wondering how come there way no season 5, since the show aired so long ago. Then I searched on the net and found out that the show was cut by sci fi :'( and I was so damn annoyed, I wanted to shoot every sci fi person.....

The show rules, but because of them its a year delay, and I get cranky when things get delayed!



:grr: - like my m8 d'Argo here does too

[JadedLegend3]

I voted Zhaan's death, only for Stark's scream. The fact that he couldn't be with her when she died was just too much.

But, Tayln-John's death was a close second.



Jacqui :love:

[MySideYourSide]

I found the season 4 cliffhanger more shocking than sad. We know Crichton and Aeryn are coming back (well, we do now), at the time it was just a big shock (which definitely counts for something too, but the question is about the saddest episode).

Zhaan's death was less shocking because she was already dying, but it was still extremely sad to watch. Stark had been hoping so much that they'd find a planet for Zhaan that he was diluting himself from reality. He definitely wasn't prepared for her death. In "Different Destinations" (the next episode), Stark is still saying "She's gone, she's really gone".

[Antrobus]

It's always been Zhaan's death for me. I think the reason that some people don't feel that much about her death is that she didn't die in a real "tearjerker" manner. She just sort of faded away - which didn't LOOK like death.

The tearjerker part of her death was what preceded it with her goodbyes. The scene where Aeryn says "no!" and tried to move towards Zhaan only to have John hold her back is where I've always "lost it". One almost senses that at that point Aeryn is losing the closest thing to a mother that she's ever known.

And then there's Zhaan's little speech "allow me...". Just chokes me up!

....and of course Stark's scream!

[Anhayla]

I picked TJ's death, just because of Aeryn's aunguish in the scene. But any of the three deaths listed make me cry every single time!

[scaperbuddy]

I picked the season four cliffhanger because John and Aeryn died and it meant our show was at an end. But all of the deaths made me cry. Even some of the ones not in the poll.

[tribsaint]

I've always thought that the whole frelling episode "The Choice" was heart-wrenching. I'd also vote that episode as the one with the best acting. I felt so bad for Aeryn, being frelled with like that when she was so deep in grief for John. That whole episode made me want to cry.

[SCAPERFOREVER1904]

I chose Zhaan's goodbye. She was the mother of the crew and the one whom always held everyone together. Without her nothing felt the same amongest them. I believe that Zhaan giving up her life for Aeryn was a good choice. Aeryn and John's relationship is something very special to the show. It was worth sacrificing.

[Clarsax]

There are a lot of sad moments to choose from but I had to go with Zhaan's death. She was such a special character that I never even noticed how much she brought to the Moya crew until she was gone. I think that one came as the biggest shock to me because she was a motherly character and such a vital part of the show. Zhaan was sick for most of her part in S3 but up to that point there had never been a real death among the crew, only Farscape deaths, and I kept thinking they would find the planet at the last minute or somehow bring her back in the next episode, the way it always happened with the other characters whenever they died. I think Zhaan sacrificing her life was a good choice to make, but it has still left a hole in among the others.

[Sayadina]

Mine was a toss up between John dying and the season 4 cliffhanger

I don't cry at movies, but I was devistaed was John died.

And when they ended the show LIKE THAT?!?!?!!?
That warrented tears.

[MJS]

Saddest moment is easily the scene with Crichton and his daughter. Sorry but can't remember the eps name.

[MySideYourSide]

Originally posted by MJS
Saddest moment is easily the scene with Crichton and his daughter. Sorry but can't remember the eps name.
That's Crichton leaving the Royal Planet at the end of the Look at the Princess triolgy. Great scene, very sad (though not the saddest, in my opinion).

[Anni]

Personally, I thought the last scene of Differant Destinations was saddest...then, that's just me!

[ScapeFreak]

Aeryns death tied with the end of Dog With Two Bones. Especially after the end of 3x22 i felt as if i had been hollowed out.

[JrMissToughChick]

What about the tag for WSS: LB?
That breaks my heart

























"Honey geuss what I did at work today..."
and Aeryn trying to comfort him

~JrMTC~

[Anni]

OH YEAH!!!

Okay, I changed my mind...I think that bit's saddest!
Well, okay...tie breaker

[MySideYourSide]

JrMTC:
I originally thought that WSS: LB was the series finale (mostly due to SciFi's ads). When I saw that ending I was ready to flip (and then I saw the real season four ending and flipped anyway).
We were seeing some of that season one "Pascifist Crichton" resurface (about time, too).

[trubador]

For me... the saddest moment is in Won't Get Fooled Again. Although it's a totally wacked out ep, there are layers behind layers to it. And that scene in the bar with is dying mother approaching him.... man, that just gets me every time. :bawl:

From the choices above... T/J in IP:2 (with Aeryn's a close 2nd).

[tribsaint]

oooh...forgot that, tru. That one gets me too.

[Lindsay White]

"Infinite Possibiliities; Icarus Abides, was just devastating! It remains the single Farscape episode I have only watched once.

[Otto the Mild]

So, I'm the lone holdout for "John Leaving the Royal Planet," eh?

Well, you'll never take me alive! :wb:

Seriously, that moment got to me because of the fact that he was never going to see his daughter, but had a moment to visit with an extrapolation of the person she would likely become. I wish they had somehow touched on this later on in the show, since one would think he'd continue to brood on it afterwards.

[Ouroboros]

"Honey geuss what I did at work today..."
and Aeryn trying to comfort him

That was an awesome scene. One of my favorites in the entire show.

[JrMissToughChick]

Originally posted by Ouroboros
That was an awesome scene. One of my favorites in the entire show. Mine too

~JrMTC~

[Roland]

Zhaan dies! But Talyn-john is better played out by the actors/actresses!

[Anni]

Is everyone on this board kinkoid?!

two words...the choice...
I withdraw my earlier saddest posts...the choice gets me right here! I can't even pick one specific part...it's all amazing! Some of the best acting I have ever seen! I don't think I have ever cried so much in my life!
Then again...I look at it as a psychology student and pick up on a lotta little stuff loadsa people don't...all adds to it!

[Roland]

I also think Matt, Mario, Fiona, Sean, Jonathan, Tim and others I do not know of should get some cred for some sweet Rygel moments. You almost cry because of a puppet... Now that's tough to act! Overall their acting diserves more cred. then given...

[JadedLegend3]

You know, I rewatched ...Different Destinations last night, and that is a horribly sad episode. Especially the end. Also, the scene with Chiana and Rygel both showing up in Zhaan's quarters to "steal" things, and both deciding they don't want anything. That was sad.




Jacqui :love:

[BlackThorn]

Each of those hit me harder than the one before. John leaving the royal planet made me cry. Aeryn dying made me cry more. Zhaan dying made me cry more. Talyn-John was one of the saddest moments I'd ever seen. Then came the end of Bad Timing. I cried for the last five minutes of the episode and went on crying for a half hour after it was over. So, the cliffhanger gets my vote.

[Sayadina]

Originally posted by BlackThorn
Each of those hit me harder than the one before. John leaving the royal planet made me cry. Aeryn dying made me cry more. Zhaan dying made me cry more. Talyn-John was one of the saddest moments I'd ever seen. Then came the end of Bad Timing. I cried for the last five minutes of the episode and went on crying for a half hour after it was over. So, the cliffhanger gets my vote.

I'm with BlackThorn on this one.

I tell you, when Bad Timing was over, I sat there with my mouth hanging open and tears streaming down my face. My fiance had to shake me out of it before I could move!

IT CAN'T END LIKE THAT!

lucky for us, it won't.....

[tribsaint]

Originally posted by Anni
Is everyone on this board kinkoid?!

two words...the choice...
I withdraw my earlier saddest posts...the choice gets me right here! I can't even pick one specific part...it's all amazing! Some of the best acting I have ever seen! I don't think I have ever cried so much in my life!
Then again...I look at it as a psychology student and pick up on a lotta little stuff loadsa people don't...all adds to it!

I'm not kinkoid...I said "The Choice" on page two already. ;)

Originally posted by tribsaint
I've always thought that the whole frelling episode "The Choice" was heart-wrenching. I'd also vote that episode as the one with the best acting. I felt so bad for Aeryn, being frelled with like that when she was so deep in grief for John. That whole episode made me want to cry.

Wow...we said almost the exact same thing. Great minds think alike, eh?

[Krash]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dani.fernandez-moure/10422/10422-246.jpg

Considering how this pretty much sums up my relationship of almost 7 years...I remember watching this episode with her thinking "not a good sign" (considering how we'd joked about how the writers must be following us for story ideas.

[Wererat42]

Geez... I never thought of The Choice. And I've got another one: Crais sacrificing himself to save his former enemies. I remember staring at the TV screen afterwards, not sure what to think.

[chri-baby]

Originally posted by trubador
[B]For me... the saddest moment is in Won't Get Fooled Again. Although it's a totally wacked out ep, there are layers behind layers to it. And that scene in the bar with is dying mother approaching him.... man, that just gets me every time. :bawl:

Yes that actually the only time I shed real tears..I've lost people in my life and that scene rang so true thanks in part to stellar acting.
Another scene that wrenched my guts was the tag scen from Different Destinations, that was soooo unexpectedly sad. :(

[JrMissToughChick]

Originally posted by JadedLegend3
You know, I rewatched ...Different Destinations last night, and that is a horribly sad episode. Especially the end. Also, the scene with Chiana and Rygel both showing up in Zhaan's quarters to "steal" things, and both deciding they don't want anything. That was sad.

Jacqui :love: I kinda thought they both went there to be close to her but only said they were going to steal stuff to cover that... I also thought that last image from the past was sad and John saying, "why would they do that I mean what was the point?" and Aeryn saying, "there probly wasn't one"

~JrMTC~

[Sayadina]

After reading some of the posts and being a glutton for punishment, I went to Fascape Fantasy to look up some music vids.

You want more tourture, try these:
Great vid spotlighting the best of Farscape and the cancelation
http://www.farscapefantasy.com/videos/index.php?set=video&id=370

This one is my fav, but kills me everytime I see it. Spotlights John and Aeryn's relationship
http://www.farscapefantasy.com/videos/index.php?set=video&id=337

Here's one showing Aeryn after Talyn-John Dies (there are several really good ones about Talyn-John dying, but this is the best to me):
http://www.farscapefantasy.com/videos/index.php?set=video&id=257

This is also one of my favs, spotlighting Zhaan and Stark's relationship up until her death.
http://www.farscapefantasy.com/videos/index.php?set=video&id=332

After watching these, and others (and becoming and sobbing wreck) I've decided that I can't decide what the saddest moment was.
:cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:

[RescueFarscape]

Originally posted by Otto the Mild
So, I'm the lone holdout for "John Leaving the Royal Planet," eh?




I had to vote for TJ's death, but only because I cried more the first time I saw it.;) John leaving the Royal Planet and his daughter behind is certainly as heart-wrenching. *sigh* Dang, now I want to change my vote.

[JrMissToughChick]

Should we have a poll on what made you cry longest?

~JrMTC~

[fiona-maria]

John's hugging his daughter.

Fiona

[JadedLegend3]

Originally posted by JrMissToughChick
I kinda thought they both went there to be close to her but only said they were going to steal stuff to cover that... I also thought that last image from the past was sad and John saying, "why would they do that I mean what was the point?" and Aeryn saying, "there probly wasn't one"

~JrMTC~

Yeah, that's what I meant to say, but it didn't come out as well as I had hoped! LOL


Jacqui :love:

[Belial]

the part when aeryn dies didnt get too me so much because I knew she would come back (or lived in denial that she was dead)
:)

the end of season 4 I didnt find sad at all.. only shocking and frustrating.. then funny ^_^

when TJ died it was a lil sad, but there where one more and it was convenient that one of them died... I would have preferred the other crichton to die but that wouldnt have been sad would it?

No... what really gets to me is when Zhaan dies... gaddammitt.. now I'm all moisty and stuff.... curse you ppl!

*goes to watch all these moments again*

[JadedLegend3]

Not sure if this has been posted yet or not, but how about when Crais and Talyn die? My mom said that was really sad for her, and it is. Tayln was so young.


Jacqui :love:

[SabaceanBabe]

There are some spoilers in my reply... If you don't want to read them, skip to the next reply. You have been warned.

Of the choices on the poll, I had to go with Zhaan's death. Even though, by the time it came, we all knew it was coming and had time to adjust to the thought (just like the rest of the Moyans), it somehow made it even harder that we all had a chance to say goodbye.

The Royal Planet was sad, but, I dunno, it just didn't hit me. It was more a hypothetical sadness, because it was the loss of something that didn't really exist yet. It was the loss of potential, rather than loss of actual, if that makes sense.

Aeryn dying was so sudden and shocking that I didn't have time to feel sad before she was back. Of course, there's no way it would have been the same for any of you who got to see it broadcast -- you would've had several months for the loss to become real, making the resurrection that much more affecting. I saw Zhaan bring her back the same day I saw her die.

T-John dying. Ok, *that* was mega sad. But, at the same time, we all knew John was still out there. Different experiences had made him a somewhat different, somewhat darker man, but it was still John and had at least some mitigating effect on the sadness of T-John's death. I still cried my eyes out, though.

As for the season 4 cliffhanger, I didn't find it sad so much as, as, as enraging. After the tears (brought on by D'Argo's scream) subsided, all I could see was red. I can't tell you how many letters that one spurred me to write to Skiffy and Viacom and Showtime and all the others that we were working on. I never say John and Aeryn as dead, as I know many others have, but rather as "neutralized" and, as such, able to be brought back.

But there are a lot of other sad moments, some minor - some major, that weren't listed in this particular poll:

Zhaan's realization that she is still capable of violence and even evil in That Old Black Magic

John's realization that he has killed someone (even though he was under his own control at the time) in A Bug's Life

Gillina's death, after risking so much to save Crichton, in Hidden Memory

The Moyans' realization of how nasty they can be, even to each other, in Crackers Don't Matter

Aeryn, in The Way We Weren't, when she realizes what she used to be and how far she's come, when she and Pilot come to terms with what is between them

It's kind of minor, but the death of the Vorc in Beware of Dog

John and his mother in Won't Get Fooled Again

90% of the Locket

The tag in ...Different Destinations

M-John realizing Aeryn's gone in Thanks For Sharing

The look on John's face when Aeryn walks past him in Fractures

Crais and Talyn's final moments in Into the Lion's Den

The fight and subsequent separation of Aeryn and John in Dog With Two Bones

John, sitting on the rocks in a little ball of misery after spending time in Grayza's hands in What Was Lost

John's realization, after having wanted it for so long, that he doesn't belong on Earth anymore in Terra Firma

John's realization that Aeryn has been taken by the Scarrens in Bringing Home the Beacon

The fact that some of these same episodes had some of the funniest moments, as well, is one of the things that makes me love this show so much.

[Jat]

Talyn and Crais was one of the best - he knew he couldnt have her, she loved (bah should read my post instead of editing it striaght after!) someone else, talyn was helping her mother, crais did it mainly to redeem himself, i dont really beleive he did it for revenge too much. Crais was an excellant character come to think of it, he had lost everything apart from talyn....

[blue]

"Aeryn, in The Way We Weren't, when she realizes what she used to be and how far she's come, when she and Pilot come to terms with what is between them"
Yeah, that one. Aeryn touching Pilot's face with tears streaming down her face, saying when she first met him she couldn't understand touching him and now she couldn't understand not touching him. That's the image that first comes to me with this question.

[recklesshumor]

I have to give props to Anni and Tribsaint here. The saddest episode, by far, is The Choice. Claudia did an amazing job in that ep, and every other element really came together to create a depressing mood. The sets, Aeryn's wardrobe, the props, even the seriously ugly aliens made that episode intense, sad, and beautiful all at once. Strange that they put that episode in at the last moment. They were originally going to move straight to the reunion on Moya. I, for one, am very glad they didn't. The Choice is one of the very best episodes of the series.

And definitely the saddest!!

[Eiley]

I originally thought that the end of season 3 was the saddest, but I just finally saw the end of season 2 the other day. Aeryn's death beats all.

[NieMMY]

I think season one when crighton destroyed the Gamek base , and the ep they destroyed his command carrier ,then Scorpius sorta become a pointless charecter "death by entrophy"

[MySideYourSide]

Originally posted by NieMMY
I think season one when crighton destroyed the Gamek base , and the ep they destroyed his command carrier ,then Scorpius sorta become a pointless charecter "death by entrophy"
Scorpy? Pointless?! One of Farscape's greatest plot twists ever was Scorpy's asylum on Moya! We got to see entirely different parts of his character, and it really changed his relationship with Crichton (especially after John destroyed Scorp's command carrier).

And of course, at the end of Season 4 Scorpy and Sikouzu are off doing their thing. It looks like he's getting ready to head out on his own again. :ewink:

[NieMMY]

Well I suppose your right , yer getting Sikozoo as his new main squeeze is prolly worth losing a carrier or two!

But then again if he is not the Naughty man any more then Who is ?The Scarrens I suppose! But then again I think Sikozoo is a Scarren tart! Maybe even a modified Scarren

[NieMMY]

I got the feeling Scorpius dosen't intirely trust her

[Jat]

*season 4 spoiler space*
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u been warned! not my fault!
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Same here, when she did that little scarren trick but i thought she was a bi - loid instead...

[NieMMY]

Yer I thought that But Bioloid areyn had all this white dren inside her.

You would think it would be a simple matter of drawing some blood to see whats going on with sikozoo to see if she is a bioloid, but the again that won't tellus if she is a scarren spy "if I was Scorpius I would watch my back"

[NieMMY]

Or better still watch hers :P

[LAScaper]

This was such a good list. I had a hardest time choosing between T-John's death, and the end of season 4. As soon as John was twinned, I KNEW we were going to see one die. But expecting it didn't help at all when you could see how it was breaking Aeryn's heart. :cry2:

But that season 4 cliffhanger was brutal. After a GLORIOUS scene we watched J&A .... :bawl:

I wanted to scream along with D'Argo.

[Tox]

Definitely Talyn-John. That look on Aeryn's face!

And haven't seen the season 4 cliffhanger... so hush!

[JrMissToughChick]

still WSS but the tag for SIW

Why is it the gental ones always pay the price for others ambision

and John throwing the bottle

[JrMissToughChick]

All of todays eps have sad tags

[MySideYourSide]

Talk about a pair of depressing eps, SIW: Wait for the Wheel and ...Different Destinations.

DD is an amazing episode. Taking that ol' time travel idea and giving it that Farscape feel.

[The Keeper]

I have to say that Aeryns's death was the saddest for me, even tho i knew she'd be back the next seasosn. But the thing that made me cry the most was Rygel's reaction (as well as John's, but thats a given) when he was saying goodbye to her in her coffin.:(

[Sayadina]

OMG yes,
that made me cry too, when they were saying good bye to her in the coffin. The tears started for me, tho when John finally snapped out of it and realized what he ahd just done - and when Aeryn says, "remember what you said..."

done.

[The Keeper]

"I hope you meant what you said in the Neural Cluster...I did..."

:cry2:

[trubador]

Originally posted by The Keeper
"I hope you meant what you said in the Neural Cluster...I did..."

:cry2:
I'm racking my brain trying to remember (not which ep Aeryn says that line, but) what ep she's referring to.... what scene in what ep did John say something to Aeryn while in Moya's neural cluster???

HELLLLLP!

[JrMissToughChick]

the one in dmd where they tell each other they love each other and he bashes her skull in

[trubador]

Thanx, JrMTC! Now I gots tah go re-watch that ep an' find out what he said.... 'cuase she certainly ain't referrin' to the head bashin' moment. :headbang: :rollin:

[JrMissToughChick]

do you want me to quote it?

[JrMissToughChick]

no... no that should be would you like me to quote it?

[trubador]

Be my guest.... (Trub ain't worried 'bout poor Engwish skills here on FMD). :D

[JrMissToughChick]

John: I would be lost... without you.
Aeryn: Then you'll never be lost.
John: No matter what happens... you... have worked your way... into my heart.
Aeryn: You've shown me that I have one.
John: I love you.
Aeryn: I love you, too.
{(They Kiss)}{(Bash)}{(neuro clone licks Aeryns face nose to hair)}
Scorpy: Mm... you are so... my girl.

[Anni]

dunno if anyone else has said this, but my other saddest moment is Wayt we weren't when Aerun tells Johna bout her betrayin Velorek

This epi also wins a good spot in my sweetest moments...when he goes to see her while she's workin out and shreddin her hands and he just holds her and I'm like *awww*

[JrMissToughChick]

By then in TWWW you can tell they're in :love:

but that is a good sad moment I don't remember it being mentioned

~JrMTC~