How do you see Braca?

[JrMissToughChick]

I don't know about you but I think Braca is a very interesting Charactor he became interesting in season three and developed that more through season four I just wanted to know what everyone thinks of him.

~JrMTC~

[JrMissToughChick]

If you vote some other way I kinda wanted an explanation. just FYI I am not tryng to be snippy I am just interested

~JrMTC~

[Jat]

I dont go with any of them tbh, i think hes trying to do the right thing, and he belevies its his duty or something....

[DRD2001]

With my eyes. :)
I see him as a soldier, who follows orders, but knows that he has to keep an eye on the greater good.

[JrMissToughChick]

Originally posted by Jat
I dont go with any of them tbh, i think hes trying to do the right thing, and he belevies its his duty or something.... I kinda think that is the Consamate PK one right?With my eyes :)
Thats funny me too

~JrMTC~

[Lindsay White]

Well, I voted for the "Consummate peacekeeper," but really I think he's "more" than that. He really came through when Grayza was out of control. I liked the decent way he treated Aeryn in "Into the Lion's Den" and "La Bomba,"

[Anhayla]

Hey, you didn't put "shirtless" as a choice... :duck:

[Ouroboros]

Some combination of 1,4 and 5.

I think he wants to get ahead in a machiavellian sort of way and probably likes to think of himself as the next up and coming peacekeeper hero. Every time he's been bought or betrayed someone it's been with the goal of furthering his carear. Unfortunately his ambitions sometimes outway his actual ability. He's really never done anything well except for follow other peoples orders. He's been inflated way beyond where he should be in rank (blame Grayza for that) and now he's running an entire command carrier by himself despite the fact he never really did anything to earn his way past lieutenant let alone a command of his own.

Braca could be a good captain some day with more experience under his belt but he' not ready to be one now. Step one: Stop getting beat up by IASA scientists.:rollin:

[chri-baby]

consummate peacekeeper who will find a place on the ruling council someday.

[JrMissToughChick]

Originally posted by Anhayla
Hey, you didn't put "shirtless" as a choice... :duck: ROFLMEO

~JrMTC~

[Jat]

Originally posted by JrMissToughChick
I kinda think that is the Consamate PK one right?

~JrMTC~

Errrm not really, I don't know the exact meaning of the word consamate but he has at times been pretty gutsy, such as taking control of the command carrier, but I do think you are right, at the core he does anything to get the goal done. Such as in LGM part 3, he killed his fellow peacekeeper mate so they could get through the door.

[Roland]

He is a survivor! Smart, calculative...always one step ahead of the others. When others fall, he rises even higher! :cool:

[Dominar Rygel XVI]

Frell!I see him dead...

[Roland]

Welcome aboard Dominar! :hi: I see we disegree on this issue... ;)

[AnnieBW]

My husband (D'Argo Museveni) and I were just having this discussion last night. We finally got around to seeing "Master and Commander" (which, BTW, is a great movie for anybody writing military fic!). :aok: I'm also writing a section on Braca in my latest fic. I'm thinking that the PKs, especially when you get to the higher ranks, rely on patronage as much as actual experience, for promotion. Braca sees Scorpy as his patron - someone to look out for him as long as he is loyal. Since Braca didn't get his command out of direct experience, but by being at the right place at the right time (and having the right loyalties), he didn't really come into his own as a captain until "La Bomba". By stopping Grayza from needlessly sacrificing the crew of the Command Carrier in a pointless battle, Braca earned the respect of his crew. Contrast that with S1 Crais, who commanded by fear and intimidation.

In "Master and Commander", Russell Crowe's character - a charismatic British captain named Jack Aubrey - tellls a junior officer that he "has to find the commander within himself" or else the men will never respect him. They make a big point about Admiral Nelson being the kind of man that others would follow to the ends of the earth because he had their respect.

In short, I see Braca as someone who is in the process of finding the commander within himself. He's been rewarded for being a good lackey. Now he has to step up and become a leader.

[Antrobus]

Now he has to step up and become a leader.

But he's got to unattach himself from Scorpy's hip.

I voted, but I wish we knew more about the character. He's been elusive. Mainly, I think, because the role started as just a sort of walk on part which happened to grow into something more. Therefore he has "snuck up" on us and we don't know anything about his background at all.

[GeneralBraca]

He is doing what he feels is right for the Sebacean species as a whole. And doing right means following orders... except, as with Grayza, when it is obviously NOT the right thing. So he does not simply blindly follow orders. Does this make him the consummate Peace Keeper or not? I'm not sure. Does a consummate Peace Keeper only follow orders? Or do they think for themselves when necessary? At any rate, it makes him a hero in his own mind, but I don't think he's doing it for power. He's doing it because he wants to be the "good guy" (which, to him, he is). He wants to see the further glory of the Sebacean race. I'm going with the "other" option on the poll.

[Ouroboros]

Ok I get the feeling I'm going to be doing this a lot but there's a very good case to be made that he's the one that screwed up at Katratzi.

I make it here (http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17928)

To summarrize, once Crichton exposed to Staleek that the Peacekeepers did not actually have wormhole weapons (the threat of which Grayza was using as the only thing to keep the Scarrans from attacking) there was nothing to stop them from launching their attack the next day. It became beneficial for Grayza and the Peacekeeper cause to kill Stalleek and Ahkna, if not to prevent the now inevitable war, then to at least give them a fighting chance by decapitating the Scarran leadership early on. She had gunnary crews picking out targets on Katratzi and spent an awful lot of time stalling for someone who was supposedly just out to throw their life away in a mindless act of passion.

Braca decided either because he didn't know the whole story, which I find unlikely as he was Grayza's right hand for so long, or because he didn't want to die, that running away to die with the rest of the Sebacean race a little later was a better plan than trying to badly injure the enemy when he had a perfect all be it very risky chance to do so. He lacked the foresight to see beyond his immidiate dillema to the bigger picture or did see it and simply chose not to risk his life for the benefit of his people.

[JrMissToughChick]

Just noteced no one thinks he respects authority! ROFLMEO

~JrMTC~

[Scaper989]

No option for boot-lickin, coat-tail-riding, opportunistic lacky?

[JrMissToughChick]

Originally posted by Scaper989
No option for boot-lickin, coat-tail-riding, opportunistic lacky? I was thinking Bubbeling Sidekick covers that I had about 20 options but some were in my eyes redundent.

~JrMTC~

[Clarsax]

Braca does seem to be the brown noser type but then he's loyal to Scorpius more than to the Peacekeepers or Grayza. The way he acts like a boot licker and then sneaks around spying on people or secretly filling out Scorpius's wishes makes me wonder whether there's a lot more to his character than he's revealing. Maybe the problem is that he is very elusive and occasionally does the unexpected, waiting for his chance and then taking charge.

[Jat]

It would be just brilliant is he was a spy for the scarrens, that would make my day, it would be a brilliant plot twist if he scews scorpy over at the same time..

[leeturnbull]

i like to think of Scorpy being bi sexual and Braca his M&S slave (or you know what i mean and not Marks and Spencer either)

Especially when Scorpy is on a leesh

[Paul Cousins]

Originally posted by leeturnbull
i like to think of Scorpy being bi sexual and Braca his M&S slave (or you know what i mean and not Marks and Spencer either)

Especially when Scorpy is on a leesh

I think Peacekeeper Barbie and Natira give us a clue as to what Scorpy's tastes are. :D

Anyway, Braca knows Scorpy is a hell of a leader and a genius.

Scorpy was able to take over Crais' Command Carrier without firing a shot. Also, I love his little speech in 'The Hidden Memory' to Crais' two bodyguard troops as he talks them into lowering their weapons and puting Crais in Aurora Chair.

And lets be honest, Scorpy has been good to those under him, the only time he has not is when he suspects betray or going rogue. Or when someone under him wastes someone elses life needlessly. And the is reasonable by most standards.

This is one of the reasons why I think Scorpy is more dangerious than Vader, because he has earned his troops' respect, while Vader only causes his troops to fear him. :aok:

[MySideYourSide]

Crais's comment about Braca being a "Consumate Peacekeeper" doesn't exactly hold true, in fact that comment may it part have led to Braca pushing his loyalties to Scorpy (it was fairly obvious that he found the comment offensive). Braca is definitely a PK, but he has his own agenda, despite the fact that he appears - or at least appeared up until WSS: La Bomba - completely loyal to Grayza.

Quite frankly, it was probably smart of Braca to stay Scorpy's little spy. He knows that Scorpius is far too smart and far too powerful to stay out of the picture for long.

That said, Scorpy's got Sikouzu working as his new little buddy (I wonder how Braca feels about that). Come to think of it, a small sub-plot on Braca and Sikouzu would be very interesting in the Mini...

[Paul Cousins]

Originally posted by MySideYourSide
Crais's comment about Braca being a "Consumate Peacekeeper" doesn't exactly hold true, in fact that comment may it part have led to Braca pushing his loyalties to Scorpy (it was fairly obvious that he found the comment offensive). Braca is definitely a PK, but he has his own agenda, despite the fact that he appears - or at least appeared up until WSS: La Bomba - completely loyal to Grayza.

Quite frankly, it was probably smart of Braca to stay Scorpy's little spy. He knows that Scorpius is far too smart and far too powerful to stay out of the picture for long.

That said, Scorpy's got Sikouzu working as his new little buddy (I wonder how Braca feels about that). Come to think of it, a small sub-plot on Braca and Sikouzu would be very interesting in the Mini...

Guys, let's not forget Scorpy's other little buddy, Harvey.

[MySideYourSide]

Originally posted by Paul Cousins
Guys, let's not forget Scorpy's other little buddy, Harvey.
But Harvey's not really Scorpy's buddy (not anymore, at least). One of the great things about Harvey's character (and why I was so glad to see him come back in the WSS trilogy) is that the writers made him a unique character. He's very influenced by John's personality and memories (it's interesting that Talyn-John's Harvey wound up a little more "evil" than Moya-John's).

Anyway, Braca: Loyal to Scorpy. :bowdown:

[Paul Cousins]

Originally posted by MySideYourSide
But Harvey's not really Scorpy's buddy (not anymore, at least). One of the great things about Harvey's character (and why I was so glad to see him come back in the WSS trilogy) is that the writers made him a unique character. He's very influenced by John's personality and memories (it's interesting that Talyn-John's Harvey wound up a little more "evil" than Moya-John's).

Anyway, Braca: Loyal to Scorpy. :bowdown:

In the last half of Season Four of Farscape, it was revealed that Scorpy is still somewhat in control of and recieving information from Harvey.

But how much control and by what means, still remains a mystery.

[MySideYourSide]

Originally posted by Paul Cousins
In the last half of Season Four of Farscape, it was revealed that Scorpy is still somewhat in control of and recieving information from Harvey.

But how much control and by what means, still remains a mystery.
It's not necessarily a case of "control," though. Scorpy basically "turned off" Harvey, but he didn't tell John all the little details. Harvey came back the second John decided to betray Scorp in the WSS trilogy.

[Paul Cousins]

Originally posted by MySideYourSide
It's not necessarily a case of "control," though. Scorpy basically "turned off" Harvey, but he didn't tell John all the little details. Harvey came back the second John decided to betray Scorp in the WSS trilogy.

I think Scorpy's blood was part of the trigger.

[Jat]

*spoiler season 4*






harvey didnt give about scorpy I believe until he was upgraded to harvey 2.0 :)

[Jeff O'Connor]

I picked he wants to rule the galaxy, because when it comes down to it, I think that's a great deal of his desire. But at the same time he's respectable in the sense that he knows where his place is... I don't think he'd side with the Scarrans for even the whole galaxy, no. He respects authority, so long as he sees it as a respectable authority. He's one of those characters is all.

[NieMMY]

Yer I would go for loyalty "you have to hope it exists somewhere!'

[Paul Cousins]

Originally posted by Jat
*spoiler season 4*

harvey didnt give about scorpy I believe until he was upgraded to harvey 2.0 :)

Scorpy made have injected another chip into John's head went he "turned off" Harvey.