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LadyCrais
01-22-2004, 10:17 AM
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040122/D807V9A80.html

Biotech Insects Raise Hopes, Concerns

Jan 22, 11:04 AM (ET)

By PAUL ELIAS


SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Some high-tech insect experiments soon may be flitting out of the laboratory: Mosquitos genetically modified to eliminate malaria. Silkworms engineered to produce bulletproof vests. Bollworm moths designed to self-destruct before they can wipe out cotton crops.

Genetically engineered insects hold the promise of benefiting millions, eradicating diseases and plagues that cause famine in the developing world. But despite such good intentions, many scientists are alarmed that few safeguards exist to keep unintended consequences from harming humans or the environment.

Fast-producing insects anchor food chains around the globe. Yet the impact that genetically engineered bugs could have on ecosystems is only now being explored, even as researchers push to release biotech insect experiments into the wild.

Such questions could be vitally important, particularly since many researchers are engineering insects designed to change the genetic makeup of their very species.

Unlike with biotech crops or livestock, which are at least designed to be controlled, the goal of much of this insect research is to introduce genetically engineered traits into natural insect populations - for example, rendering tsetse flies incapable of carrying deadly sleeping sickness, a disease that afflicts millions in Africa.

No biotech insect experiment has been conducted outside a laboratory yet, but a few projects are getting close - a prospect that prompted the Pew Initiative on Food and Biotechnology, in a report being released Thursday, to call on the federal government to adopt strict regulations.

"Usually, biotechnology seems to move more quickly than the regulations," said Michael Fernandez, Pew's science director. "But in this case, we have the time."

No U.S. law specifically addresses biotech bugs. The U.S. Department of Agriculture's written policy on engineered insects asserts regulatory authority only over "plant pests," requiring that any outdoor experiment get prior federal approval.

Bob Rose, a USDA scientist, said federal agencies can and probably will assert authority over many of these projects - with some creative categorizing. For instance, Rose said the USDA has authority to regulate insects that cause disease in animals. Mosquitoes are livestock pests and Rose said genetically engineered malaria fighters could be brought under USDA's authority in that way.

Rose also says biotech insect research is still in its infancy. Still, he concedes more explicit regulations as called for by Pew would eliminate many of the regulatory loopholes being exploited by biotech companies.

For example, no regulator stepped in to monitor the Glofish, a fluorescent zebra fish recently put on the market, because no federal agency was specifically tasked with overseeing biotech house pets.

The USDA has received only one application for an open air-test of an engineered insect, the cotton-destroying pink bollworm moth in Arizona, which could occur this year.

Other insect projects developing in mostly unregulated territory include industrial products, like the attempt to make silkworms mass-produce spider silk. By weight it is stronger than steel and tougher than the artificial fibers now used in body armor worn by troops in Iraq and elsewhere.

Still other researchers are engineering honeybees to be more disease-resistant, and medflies to be less damaging to crops.

Anthony James at the University of California, Irvine, is trying to synthesize a gene that boosts the mosquito's immune system, giving it the means to fight off the malaria parasite.

Malaria afflicts between 300 million and 500 million people each year, killing more than 3 million annually. Simultaneous publication of the genomes of the mosquito and malaria parasite in 2002 has spurred development in James' once-obscure field.

"It shaved years off my research," he said.

While he doesn't think engineered mosquitos are a silver bullet, James predicts they will be important, along with drugs and vaccines, in the fight against malaria. He hopes his research won't be slowed by the concerns being raised in the Pew report and elsewhere.

Thomas Miller at the University of California, Riverside, also believes in biotech insects - but for reasons that have as much to do with farmers' profits as healthy crops.

With a $1 million grant from the California cotton industry, Miller is working to genetically modify the crop-killing pink bollworm to be sexually active but unable to reproduce properly. The idea is that the biotech bugs would mate in the wild, passing on a lethal gene instead of child-creating genes to the offspring.

The test in Arizona would not involve the lethal gene yet - instead, scientists plan to release thousands of bollworms with genetic markers to determine just what it takes to overwhelm natural reproduction among wild bollworms.

For his part, Miller concedes that more research needs to be done on environmental impact before biotech insects can be widely released.

"I have no idea," he said, "what they're going to do out in the wild."
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I actually interviewed for a job making those Glofish, and said emphatically no when I was told what the project was for ethical reasons.

But here we're faced with yet another dilemma of can we do good (reducing insect disease vectors) without doing bad (completely trashing the ecosystem ). As scientist (ecologist trained and molecular biologist in practice), I can't just give a flippant no based on ignorance.

NebariNookiee
01-22-2004, 10:51 AM
Let me quote the great H. P. Lovecraft:
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age." -- The Call of Cthulhu Published February 1928 in Weird Tales, Vol. 11, No. 2

I think that pretty much says it all.

LadyCrais
01-22-2004, 04:38 PM
Great quote, NN!!

Torraway
01-22-2004, 05:24 PM
... and for balance's sake, here's one from the other side of the optimism/pessimism spectrum:

"It is possible to believe that all the past is but the beginning of a beginning, and that all that is and has been is but the twilight of the dawn. It is possible to believe that all that the human mind has ever accomplished is but the dream before the awakening. We can not see, there is no need for us to see, what this world will be like when the day has fully come. We are creature of the twilight. But it is out of our race and lineage that minds will spring, that will reach back to us in our littleness to know us better than we know ourselves, and that will reach forward fearlessly to comprehend this future that defeats our eyes. All this world is heavy with the promise of greater things, and a day will come, one day in the unending succession of days, when beings, beings who are now latent in our thoughts and hidden in our loins, shall stand upon this earth as one stands upon a footstool, and shall laugh and reach out their hands amidst the stars". (H.G. Wells)

the_cadpig
01-22-2004, 08:00 PM
Didn't people learn anything from "Mimic"?

Seriously, though.... think about that. I don't think we can ever run enough tests or come up with enough extrapolations, correlations, etc. to accurately predict what something like this can do to our planet. Nature has a way of finding equillibrium and when we throw it out of whack, it comes up with something even nastier (from our perspective) to restore the balance.

Humans are progressing (if you call it that) too quickly for their own good.

It's scary... really.

~cp


and NN, that was an excellent quote. Nail on the head, buddy.

Frellster
01-22-2004, 11:55 PM
OK, bullet proof vests for the military are now made from a goat with a spider gene to produce thread in goat's milk. Compared to that, how exactly are silkworms strange?

Whats all the frikk'in hoopla about florescent fish for. Its just a bloody fish with a jellyfish gene so it floreces. Hardly a danger.

This is GOOD stuff. Not frightening.

NebariNookiee
01-23-2004, 06:19 AM
Knowledge isn't enough -- we need wisdom. The problem is the human race has striven for all of this knowledge, but never developed the wisdom to use it properly. How short some memories are – anyone remember “Africanized Killer Bees?” Look what we did just by transporting a certain species of bee to an exotic part of the globe. Now you want to talk about “genetic engineering?” It's a Pandora's Box that we don't need.

What’s that old saying? The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. I’m all for progress – but the price is too damn high and the human race isn’t prepared to pay the tab.

The most intelligent man is still an infant when faced with the cold harsh reality of the universe. -- that's all mine. Feel free to use it.:D

Torraway
01-23-2004, 09:35 AM
Whats all the frikk'in hoopla about florescent fish for. Its just a bloody fish with a jellyfish gene so it floreces. Hardly a danger.

I agree with you, Frellster. If Glofish escape into the natural environment of their non-modified fellows, they simply get eaten away because glowing fish are more easily seen by certain predators. And even if they didn't get eaten away, what would it matter? Color mutations happen all the time naturally without causing problems like, say, rabbits in Australia or bullfrogs in Europe.

The one only thing I don't like about Glofish is that they're patented. I would much prefer a more "public domain" approach to genetic engineering.

Wisdom is a combination of life experience and intelligence. Timidly staying where we are, just waiting for someone or something to enlighten us won't help humanity as a whole to become wiser. Breaking various vicious circles we are in requires aiming high and taking reasonable risks. Progress in biotechnology is not without risks, but those risks lie with engineered bacterial and viral weapons rather than with pet tweaks. In order to peacefully prevent threats from bioweapons, I think it would be a good idea for certain governments to take a more multilateral approach and support a well-funded United Nations institute devoted to speeding up the research processes that lead to the development of cures and vaccines against new and possible contagions. (phrased broadly enough not to touch a banned topic, I hope). If medical remedies could be made available considerably faster, the military value of bioweapons would probably be too low for dictators to bother producing them.

NebariNookiee
01-23-2004, 09:40 AM
It's playing God -- plain and simple. Twisting nature to meet a desired effect -- our desire.

I can't wait for this planet to teach us a lesson.

Frellster
01-23-2004, 03:09 PM
Playing God!!! What do you think selective breeding of wolves was to create a more compatible domestic version? Gene manipulation is just faster. What do you care if my fish glows, or my cat for that matter? How 'bout if I make sure my child doesn't carry the gene that predisposes them for breast cancer or addiction? Nobody is talking about introducing new species to the wild (except for Malaria-free Mosquitos) and since malaria doesn't kill mosquitos anyway, it only changes them in terms of desease transmission (as long as it gets fully researched). Everytime I draw a picture, or write a poem, I'm playing god. God is the creative, loving force in the universe.

Darth Buddha
01-23-2004, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by NebariNookiee
It's playing God -- plain and simple. Twisting nature to meet a desired effect -- our desire.

I can't wait for this planet to teach us a lesson.

You know, NN, it isn't really the playing God that gets to me, it is the fact that we are doing it FOR PROFIT!

After all, these are the motives that gave us endless studies showing cigarettes were safe, that asbestos was nothing to worry about, and that Agent Orange was perfectly safe to bathe in!

I'd be a lot more comfortable if you COULDN'T patent genes, and therefore the only people doing it would be non-profits. Less evil and easier to keep under control.

NieMMY
01-23-2004, 06:14 PM
Ohhh how about a footlong ' bulldog ants , they could drop them on our enemies :P "Finally genetics has become fun" :P hehe

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