Songs of Die Me Dichotomy (spoilers thru CK)

[stellar]

I watched the Die Me Dichotomy - Season of Death eps on DVD this afternoon and noticed two things.

(1) When Crichton tells Aeryn that he can control Scorpius by staying busy, or singing... is that the 1812 Overture that he starts singing, or is it Ride of the Valkyries?

If it's 1812... is this why we find Crichton obsessing over the 1812 Overture in Crichton Kicks? Is he staving off the madness of being alone with only himself and Harvey to fill the void.

(2) At the end... when we see Scorpius walking to the Operating Room he's humming something... after a carefull listen - it's the Star Spangled Banner. Of course, he couldn't know this unless he garnered that from the Aurora Chair (doubtful).

That is all the minutia I have for this evening. Your thoughts?

[stellar]

After a second listen, I think it's Ride of The Valkeries. Nevertheless, it's still a horn-intensive symphonic movement. Does the 1812 thing come about as a way to stave off Harvey?

[jayelsee]

I watched LG&M, Die Me Dichotomy, & Season of Death this weekend.

A thought about question 2.....John was shout-singing "The Star Spangled Banner" at the top of his lungs at the end of LG&M-ANSSP, as he was "escaping" from Scorpy (when Scorpy was "commanding" John to replace his coolant tube after the one J&A doctored blew up in his helper's face).

[jayelsee]

I have had a question about LG&M for forever.....and even after watching it very carefully, again, I still have the question.

Scorpius buys the Bannick (sp?) slave ship to acquire Jothee as a tool to manipulate D'Argo into betraying JC----and of course, JC surrenders himself in exchange for Jothee.

My question is in regards to the slaughter of the slaves that occurs a little later (which we see through Stark's reaction). Earlier, when Scorpius was preparing to buy the slaves, he told Natira that he cared nothing for any of them except Jothee, and that she could have them to do with them as she wished. The implication was that they would be resold for profit.

After the slaves die, Scorpius is accused of killing them and he doesn't deny it. But why were the killed? And who really had them killed? I can't see the motive. Supposedly they were given to Natira. Why would she have them killed, no profit in that? And even if Scorpius kept them, why would he kill them? Revenge for revenge sake? Knowing what we know of Scorpius, that doesn't seem in character.

What did I miss? This has always befuddled me.

[stellar]

Good catch on The Star Spangled Banner!!!

Natira actually paid for the slaves. Once Jothee was accounted for (and once Scorpius learned that no Stykera was among the 10,000) he gave the remainder to Natira. Natira is the one who ordered them spaced.

This does seem somewhat out of character for Natira. On the one hand she is a banker, on the other she's a sadist. Banker... sadist... sadist... banker. Which one wins in this case? Sadist. Could have easily gone the other way.

[Clarsax]

It's hard to say why she would kill the slaves. The best I can guess is that she didn't need them, or else the money she would have gotten for reselling them wasn't enough to be important to her. If she owns her own bank, then its reasonable that she could be well off, and maybe the money the slaves would have sold for wouldn't be much compared to what she already has.

Another thing is the way Stark always describes his race. I can't remember any specific lines, but whenever he talks about Baniks, and Baniks in relation to other races, he seems to suggest that other races see Baniks as rather worthless, lesser beings, probably why they were enslaved in the first place. If Natira thought of them that way, as a sort of lesser subspecies and she didn't think she could get a lot of money for them, then perhaps her sadistic side won out and she thought it would be best just to throw them away by killing them.

[jayelsee]

Natira is the one who ordered them spaced.That makes more sense to me than if it were Scorpius. I still don't really understand why, though. She is definitely a sadist, but more "hands on". I would think having them spaced wouldn't provide as much pleasure as "up close & personal".

...he [Stark] seems to suggest that other races see Baniks as rather worthless, lesser beings, probably why they were enslaved in the first place. If Natira thought of them that way, as a sort of lesser subspecies and she didn't think she could get a lot of money for them, then perhaps her sadistic side won out and she thought it would be best just to throw them away by killing them.That may well be it. It just left me wondering, since it really never was explained, that I could remember. I guess I just have to assume Natira did it for whatever reason....economics, sadistic pleasure, or a little of each.

Thanks! At least I know I didn't miss something obvious.

[Ouroboros]

Ok for the slave ship thing my top speculations are...

1: Scorpius hands them over to Natira but upon realizing how much it'll cost to keep them (food etc) she decides to blow their ship up instead.

2: Scorpius gives them to her but she (off camera) says she doesn't want them for the reason above and that he was the one that wanted/needed them for his plan so they're his problem. Not knowing what else to do with them he tells his command carrier to blow them up.

3: Some random accident causes the cargo ship's froonium drive to blow up and the whole thing goes sky high for basically a random reason.

4: Crais. He was in the area and Talyn could certainly frag a cargo ship. The only question remaining is why. Perhaps he like Stark just wanted to kick Scorpius in the nuts for revenge and figured blowing up his valuable slaves would be a good way to do it. Of course he didn't know anything about Jothee then. One would also have to account for how he knew they were Scorpius' slaves.

[stellar]

You're forgeting several possibilities involving Bizaro-Crichton.

[Ouroboros]

You're forgeting several possibilities involving Bizaro-Crichton.

Oh rest assured we've already dealt with him, oh yes.

[Frell-n-Grok]

Scorpy "learned" the Star Spangled Banner from Crichton at the end of LG&M part 1. That was the best example of continuity FarScape has ever done!

John/Scorpy is humming "Ride of the Valkyries" when Aeryn catches up with him in DMD. (He also hummed it in CDM.) I think he may even hum it in RA. I guess the guy likes his Wagner!