Dog With Two Bones-Pointless goings on about this ep for no reason at all (SPOILERS)

[The Keeper]

hey all.

I finally got to watch the season 3 final and all i can say is: Why the hezmana do farscape season finals always have to end with a cliffhanger? Not that i dont like cliffhangers, no I love 'em, but thats not the point.

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I couldnt get over the lovey dovey scene where Aeryn and John did the "Do you love john Crichton?" thing, that was just too sad and so typical of a season final! I almost cried...
then to find out that Aeyrn was pregnant! and then moya being sucked into a wormhole leaving john drifting in space with limited fuel and with (i dunno if im right on this one) not all that great amount of life-support.

Ahhh! its soo frustrating how some of us select few will have to wait a whole year before we see "crichton kicks" but oh well dren happens.

Oh another thing, completley off topic of what ive previously said, some of the things that Rygel said in this particular ep really cracked me up: for eg.
"Respect?! My tiny, shiny, hiney! It's gonna get us killed!"

oh and the fact that no one knew who the old woman is and they always said "Who is that woman" hehe :D

This was an AWESOME eppy, i think that its just about my fave of the season so far. Great twist, but like i said frustrating cause if the way it ended leaving us all hangin in suspense.

From tonight onwards i am not so patiently awaiting the arrival of season 4 into my possession...:(

cya's
-Serena

[JrMissToughChick]

What about the looks on Aeryn and John's faces when Rygel is going on about how everyones alive and everyone can go home... That was sad to me. I love this ep but you are right all season enders are sad.

~JrMTC~

[Farscape Forever]

I think Crichton put it best himself on this one: "You have got to be kidding me."

It was sad when John and Aeryn went their seperate ways..The whole exchange between the two was really.. but then you get the suprise of a lifetime that Aeryn is pregnant. Then (if your like me) your right there with John wanting him to go after Aeryn right then and there.. and then those evil people write that wonderful cliff hanger :)

[Imlego]

I saw Dog With Two Bones just yesterday for the first time and it's definately an incredible episode. Although the b-plot with crazy Leviathan was for nothing else but to show-off the magnificient power of D'Argo's little ship, the main plot (the old woman, everybody going their own way and the situation of John and Aeryn) was just gorgeous.

And the cliffhanger was a real jaw-dropper. Once again. Well, only three months to season 4 boxset... Only? You have got to be kidding me! I want Farscape!

[The Keeper]

Originally posted by Imlego
Well, only three months to season 4 boxset... Only? You have got to be kidding me! I want Farscape!

me too!:bawl:

dunno how long ill be waiting for the 4th season :(

[slider]

Well, I think it exactly Farscapes ability to stir up this kind of emotion in us that keeps us coming back and screaming for more. I too just finished watching DWTB and I couldn't help but laugh (I've already seen the whole series when it was on SciFi) b/c it's so typical FS, Love IT.

[MrX]

Agreed. Poor John. Thing just suck for him between Fractures and this ep.

I love the fact that at the end of this episode, he's in the same position as he was at the beginning of the year when it comes to potential conversation. Him, and Harvey. But, unlike John, I always love Harvey's appearances. The first time I saw the ep I couldn't wait for him to show up.

[Martincore]

I just saw the episode again; it's a wonderful season ender... I love it!

There are lots of good lines and dialogue in this ep (Rygel's "tiny, shiny hiney"-line is definately one of the more memorable! :) ), but the one I found funniest was D'Argo's "Revenge is a meal best served immediately..." (as opposed to the Klingon saying; "Revenge is a dish best served cold..."), that one really cracked me up! :D

[so-much-4-sanity]

This, so far, is my favorite Season ender. I remember vivdly seeing it when it aired originally and then the subsequent yelling at the TV that took place afterwards. Of course, I've seen it a b-guillian (sp?) times now that I have the DVD and I never cease to stop and become engrossed in that final scene with Aeryn and then the tag. Sigh...I also think CK is a great follow up to all that emotion, I mean how would you react if you were in JC's shoes (or pants ;) ).

[Antrobus]

Although the b-plot with crazy Leviathan was for nothing else but to show-off the magnificient power of D'Argo's little ship,
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[UnixWarrior]

I think this episode was excellent also.

I believe it marked a major change in Crichton.

For three seasons Crichton was obsessed with finding a way home,
hence his preocupation with wormholes.

Now the realization sets in that he has to make a choice: earth or Aeryn.

He can't have both.

He makes the right choice, for us shippers anyway, but not in time to stop Aeryn from leaving.

Notice how everything about Farscape revolves around time and timing?

I hope the mini covers some of what Aeryn experienced while she was away from Crichton and Moya.

I'd like to know what events made her decide to return to Crichton.

So many questions, so little time!

[jerseygirl]

You're right, Unix, about the change in John. Instead of home, now his obsession is Aeryn. And (I'm not really giving anything away here) we'll see that played out in Season 4. To echo what everyone else said, this is a tremendous ep. And for me, this is the one that cranked John and Aeryn's relationship up to a whole new level. Yes, they had used the L-word before, but ep is where we really, really get the intensity between them. After seeing it, my feeling was that neither of them would ever be able to find another partner anywhere in the universe. Nobody else could be anywhere near their league. Not to get too shippy here, but you can almost extrapolate their relationship for years to come based on the intensity of their love for each other. That, boys and jirls, is a credit to some kick-ass acting.

[so-much-4-sanity]

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How Farscape is it that as soon as John looses his obesession of Earth he gets there and as soon as he chooses Aeryn he looses her.

[Spedoinkel]

hey all.
Why the hezmana do farscape season finals always have to end with a cliffhanger?
The whole point is to get people to stay interested and speculatiting until the next season starts. All live action series do this, to my knowledge.

I remeber the season 5 finally of ST:TNG where Picard is captured by the Cardassians. We had a large group at the house, and when the ep reached climax, the credits started to roll. We all screamed out heads off.

[jerseygirl]

How Farscape is it that as soon as John looses his obesession of Earth he gets there and as soon as he chooses Aeryn he looses her.

You're right - it is totally Farscape. Trust them to never follow the straight path.

[somniac]

I just LOVE reading people's reactions when they see this wonderful Episode for the first time.

:D

[Xevallah]

I cant believe no one has mentioned the b-plot, which I believe was just as moving. Moya wanting to bury the remains of her child who sacraficed himself to save them all. Ended the whole Talyn-Moya story quite nicely.

[UnixWarrior]

You're right - it is totally Farscape. Trust them to never follow the straight path.

Timing. Everything is timing.

[UnixWarrior]

Not to get too shippy here, but you can almost extrapolate their relationship for years to come based on the intensity of their love for each other. That, boys and jirls, is a credit to some kick-ass acting.

Compelling .... Ain't it!

[jfranka]

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When Aeryn first catches the coin on the first toss and says to John "Just make a frelling wormhole and go home." John replies.

"There is no wormhole, there is no home, there is only yo....." He stops himself, pauses and almost sheds a tear.

That hits me the hardest. I just know I've felt that before.....

[Spedoinkel]

Yeah.


I feel like I'm repeating myself simce we lost two days.

[UnixWarrior]

Yeah.


I feel like I'm repeating myself simce we lost two days.

Well, actually, we are repeating ourselves ...

But stuff about Farscape is always worth repeating.

The end of this episode is just riveting.

Aeryn is leaving.

John wants to go with her.

Aeryn won't let him.

Our boy JC has figured out a little late that he wants Aeryn more than he wants to go home. To put it another way, Earth, without Aeryn, is not want Crichton wants.

They kiss.

He asks what it tastes like.

She replies "Yesterday"

Timing, its always the timing.

[so-much-4-sanity]

The moment, though, that kills me is in the 2nd coin toss, where Aeryn is looking at the coin and John is looking at Aeryn. Sigh...

[Mike@Pilots Chamber]

I really don't know how to describe this episode. Initially I didn't like it that much - I much preferred the previous two cliffhangers with loads of action, death etc. But the more I watched Dog With Two Bones, the more I liked it.

It built everything up realistically - John and Aeryn (and the other John), John's fears, Moya and Talyn... the Earth scenes were very well done and woven into the story well, and the musical score was deeply powerful, especially the conversation/fight between John & Aeryn in the closing minutes. Aeryn and John always said they never say goodbye, yet they do.

I really don't know why I didn't like this ep from the start...

[MrX]

Ah yes, repeat myself.

Only ep to ever make me tear up. It's wonderful.

Though I like Season 2's actual cliffhanger more than this one. When I first saw that one, I had no idea how he was going to get out of that.

[so-much-4-sanity]

I loved Season 2's cliffhanger a lot; however, Season 3's resonnates with me more over the long run because after watching each ep millions upon millions of times, which I have, it's the emotional core rather than the unknown that stays with you.

[Moks]

Yeah, Season 3 has a much different feel at it's close. Season 2, you're left with pure bitterness for Scorpius. He's killed Aeryn, through John, and dibilitated, and helpless to do anything. You almost get a sense of panic.

Season 3's finale was much deeper. The group is splitting up. You actually feel sorry for Scorpius (along with John). Talyn and Crais are dead. Aeryn and John's relationship is in question. And then, at the finish of it all, John is left alone, stranded, and once again, helpless. Season 3's ending was much more strain and emotionally stressing for the characters, and it only enriches them. I loved DWTB. I loved Season 3. And I really love Farscape. :yes:

[Owlman]

Actually. Crichton's motivations by Seasons:

1. Get Home/ Wormholes
2. Killing Scorpius/ revenge
3. Wormholes /Aeryn
4. Aeryn/ kicking ass

[Afarscapefan]

An explanation for waltersgirl and friendly scapers who care.

( Afar lies back on psychiatrist's couch )

It all started on another thread when Patrel wanted to know the explanation for the dog with two bones. faustus pointed out it was in the episode of the same name. Then in an effort to make a joke I said the name of the episode should have been called "Narcissus gets a digital camera and accidentally presses the erase button".
waltersgirl asked what that meant. In the harsh light of day I can see that what i wrote was more cryptic than a crossword question. Sorry about that. Do I win a ScaperGoat award for silly posting? Remind me not to post when I am effectively dead and my fingers are still moving.

OK what follows belongs in this spoiler section. The dog with two bones is about the dog who carries his favourite bone with him everywhere he goes. He comes across a pool and sees another dog with a bone in his reflection. He wants both bones. In his attempt to get the illusory bone he loses the real bone. That was Crichton's situation he wanted both home and Aeryn. He knew he was about to lose both.

Enter Noranti. Her advice was good for Crichton that it was not too late to choose Aeryn. Except that Aeryn was still grieving too much to accept Crichton's choice. The right decision but at the wrong time. to be continued Why does Farscape have to have a twist?

Sooooo where does my analogy of this ep come from? Narcissus was the guy who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool. This vanity lead to his destruction. So updating the technology from waterpool to digital camera. I would imagine that Narcissus obsession would follow the same path and at the worst possible moment he would hit the erase button deleting all his good work. Not that that has happened to me but I have witnessed the angst which photographers have when they do that. Which I reckon is exactly how Crichton would have felt at the end of the season. So close BUT due to forces beyond his control, it all slips out of his grasp. No Aeryn, no friends, no fuel, stuck in a tiny module in the middle of a Leviathan cemetery.

Hellooo? Anyone there?

(Afar gets up off psychiatrist's couch)

On this episode: What amazing acting from Black and Browder! Have you ever seen anything like that? So much said without words!!! Perfect poise, perfect timing, now, captured on film forever. :)

[Natira]

Its a very disturbing episode. There is nothing really happening, the scenes don't seem to fit together, especially the ones with Noranti and the whole wedding, the dialogue between Aeryn und John is so heartbreaking.

Wohoo, my thoughts are as confused as this episode was and it is perfect for the end of Season 3. Because the whole season was a frelling rollercoaster out of controll.

Wow, I am really, really looking forward. *arrange thoughts*

[blitzed]

i loved this episode primarily for how it marks the break that crichton makes with his past. he's been holding onto this fantasy that he'll be able to bring aeryn home to "meet the family" and have the "perfect" wedding; but even in his fantasies reality keeps breaking in - he even has aeryn telling his dad that she just can't stand the life that's being planned for her. this is the episode where he finally lets go of the white picket fence he wants to enclose aeryn in.

i thought that john literally barked when aeryn gets shot at the wedding - you know the sound a dog makes when it's tail gets stepped on, or it's locked in the bathroom when company's over? did anyone else think that?

[wa11z]

I like the imaginary "storybook" feel that the wedding reception has. In my mind, it only further amplifies an undercurrent feeling that this is definitely not going to happen. Not in that particular way.

[blitzed]

i agree - the "earth" sequences in DW2B looked like "happily ever after" - just brilliant irony.

if you've heard the commentary with david kemper, he says there's a bunch of scenes of aeryn trying on various dresses which had to be cut for timing or pace. sure wish they'd included them in the special features.

*sigh*

[clint999]

I saw Dog With Two Bones just yesterday for the first time and it's definately an incredible episode. Although the b-plot with crazy Leviathan was for nothing else but to show-off the magnificient power of D'Argo's little ship, the main plot (the old woman, everybody going their own way and the situation of John and Aeryn) was just gorgeous.

And the cliffhanger was a real jaw-dropper. Once again. Well, only three months to season 4 boxset... Only? You have got to be kidding me! I want Farscape!

[Mike@Pilots Chamber]

The last few minutes of the episode are, in my opinion, some of the most powerful few minutes of any TV show. The fight between John and Aeryn and the part in the module afterwards are pure gold.

[Nicola]

Me too.

Dog With Two Bones was an absolutely stellar episode. Every single character had scenes that really said something about them, and their relationship to Moya and to each other. Brilliant.

All Farscape's season finales have been outstanding, but I think this one is the best. :)