talyn bridge blueprints....attention to details

[scarranbionoid]

im making blueprints to talyns bridge ill post them when they are finished and i get access to my coz scanner. i also made a schematic of the two forward consoles...i.e. the one aeryne first turns on when she first baords talyn. ill start on the others when i finish the two im doing now.

[Meurig47]

I half-made a 3d model of talyn's bridge a while ago, while I dont have the renders i did then to hand any more, and I dont really have the time to render out new ones, I do have an image of the layout for talyn's comms console that might be of use to you, I consider it pretty accurate, spent a lot of time eyeing up the actual one to get it accurate :p

http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/farscape/pics/talyncommsconsole.jpg

[scarranbionoid]

i got pics from every angle to make a complete image

[Meurig47]

Well in response to your PM, i dug it out.
Heres what I made, dont think im going to continue it any time soon - I just have way too many things on the go at once to continue it right now.

http://www.tgu.org.uk/users/farscape/pics/talynbridge01.jpg

[scarranbionoid]

there were 2 types of consoles on radial ribs...the lever type and the...other type.

[scarranbionoid]

these are my reference pics for the "door knob"

[scarranbionoid]

they appear to have different centers...but that may be because on is from bridge and the otherone is from the airlock...or was it somewhere else?

[oziscififan]

You would think they would sell the diagrams of the ships they used for their set design. Maybe they're waiting for liscensing issues to disolve when skiffy's rights expire.

[scarranbionoid]

but they are too big to upload....any ideas?

[scarranbionoid]

two diff types of same from a wierd angle?

[scarranbionoid]

the radial rib from the "front"

[scarranbionoid]

rib in profile

[scarranbionoid]

there are 2 types of consoles on the radial ribs....these are them

[scarranbionoid]

i made a drawing of the 2 front consoles but meruig47's are much better then anything i have ever created.

[scarranbionoid]

this is the last one i made....cept for a side profile of the front consoles but there to crappy to show u.

[scarranbionoid]

ive just started drawings/schematics of the overhead object on the bridge, u know the thing aeryn shorts out to stop talyn from sooting her.....next ill prob diagram the guns themselves.

[scarranbionoid]

anyone have any screencaps of pics or ideas what the ceiling of talyn's bridge looks like?

[scarranbionoid]

ive started the ceiling drawing but dont know much about it ill post what i have and if u have any revisions or additions please just edit it and repost it here.

[scarranbionoid]

i really do wish people would help me with this.....i appreciate meruig47's renderings.

[JadedLegend3]

Hi! I think this is a cool idea, but I don't think I'll be much help. I'm not very graphically inclined! :) But good luck! I'll pat you on the back every now and then!

PS-what's your sig from? I can't place it! :)

[INeedMoreLight]

I have found a few good screencaps at the site in my banner for music videos. They also have great screencaps. I was thinking about you and your idea which sounds cool and although I do have some interest in helping you out I don't have a lot of spare time.

Go to http://www.farscapefantasy.com/ and lookup Episode Everything. You will find some good screencaps from Season 3 Image Gallery "Into the Lion's Den" page 3 image# 146 and page 4 image#'s 154, 163,and 164. There are lots of good captures on this site and i just ran across these while looking for prowler captures.

Hope that helps. If you run across any Prowler captures from other sites I would be interested in their location. If I find anymore Talyn ones from other sites I will post here.

[Anubis]

Here's a pic of the ceiling:

http://imageshack.us/files2/talynceiling1.jpg

I'll post more as I find them.

By the way, why are you drawing up Talyn blueprints?

[Wolvster]

BTW ,if you someone need's some
screencap's you can email me ?

khart2@woh.rr.com

I do them all the time for people.. :D

[scarranbionoid]

i ggot screencaps i just need help from people to develop them into blueprints for my project...building a full scale replica in my basement...and yes its big enough...old 5 car garage when we only have 2 cars and dont even pull them in cause its right next to the bedroom.

[INeedMoreLight]

Holy hesmana you are going to construct this in your garage?

Wow thats a pretty big project. I was at the most just going to be putting images and diagrams on my website.

You will definately need an architect or at least a drafting student to help with this. The ceiling is supported by I think 6 beams which slope downwards in the middle like a huge 6 legged insect that unless the large red circular thing in the center is extremely light would be dangerous to be under.

Good luck on this it would be awesome if you can pull it off!

[scarranbionoid]

the central figure is mad of foam or even wood in the show and i will prob use metal or resin molds.

[scarranbionoid]

can anyone find high quality screencaps of those two lights under the windows in talyn's bridge?

[Anubis]

The lights with chrome covers next to Crais?

http://www.stykera.com/hm/s2/ugly/ugly02.jpg

[scarranbionoid]

whats that grey thing in the bottom right corner? is it part of the subdivider wall?

[Anubis]

The ceiling looks like the same texture, I think the strip of black on the ceiling runs down the wall.

[scarranbionoid]

the black texture thing isnt really a strip....it runs all the way to the central dome that the radial ribs connect to...i also just noticed that the front consoles come out of a big rectagular hole in the ground...one hole for each

[scarranbionoid]

doesnt anyone hav good quality screencaps of the glass lights behind the radial ribs?

[scarranbionoid]

anyone know any lightwieght materials i can use for my talyn bridge replica? metal is too expensive and HEAVY to use on everything...

[Anubis]

Foam, plastic, wood?

How are you going to do the floor?

[scarranbionoid]

im just gonna use some creative paint/stain for the concrete floor of my garage where the replica is being built

[Anubis]

It would be cool to have the lighted windows in the floor, but you'd have to build the floor over the concrete one.

[scarranbionoid]

what lighted windows?

[Anubis]

In the middle of the bridge, the lighted acrylic covers on the floor.

http://www.stykera.com/hm/s3/meltdown/meltdown80.jpg

[scarranbionoid]

oh yeah i forgot abuot that......i can cut out resessed in the thick concrete and put lights in those

[Anubis]

Can't wait for pics, are you going to make any "Talyn-DRD's"?

[scarranbionoid]

eventually i'll make drd's and even sync the lights with noises to emulate talyn's "speech"

[Anubis]

Sounds awesome:D Have you tried contacting The henson company or whoever made the set and said you were making a full scale rep in your basement. Maybe they could help you out with some things (blueprints, set specs).

[scarranbionoid]

yeah i emailed henseon and they siad they werent planning on releaaseing any blueprints or relatred stuff. i didnt mention my replica incase i got in trouble.

[Anubis]

Just tell them you were "thinking" about it. They might like the idea and maybe they would help you out. Just because theyr'e not making them public doesn't necessarly mean that they won't help you out, right?

[scarranbionoid]

anyone got good screencaps of those glass lights seen between the radial ribs....not just the lights but the rarely seen walls behind the ribs.

[Anubis]

do you know what ep it's in?

[scarranbionoid]

their are various episodes...i dont know hwich one inparticular....i know id be on a talyn episode....amybe when aeryn first goes on boared....bone to be wild i think.

[scarranbionoid]

also green eyed monster may have a few good ones.

[Anubis]

Do any of these help?

http://www.stykera.com/hm/s1/bone/bone26.jpg

http://www.stykera.com/hm/s1/bone/bone19.jpg

I not really sure what your looking for, what are the radial ribs exactly?

[scarranbionoid]

this is a radial rib.

[scarranbionoid]

this is the wall i need screencaps of...the lights and wall behind crais

[Anubis]

Here's a pic of the wall across from the one you asked for, and assuming talyn is symetrical, the wall should be very similar if not the same on the other side. To me they look the same, what do you think (it has the same lights with chrome covers)?

http://www.stykera.com/hm/s2/ugly/ugly24.jpg

[scarranbionoid]

thats great! its probably the same on the other wall...wow its smaller then i thought

[Anubis]

I did some research on movie set design to maybe find out whats used to make sets/props/whatever basically. Apparently they use polyurethane-based products. I found a site called http://www.sprayfoam.com, and found a little thing about set design with polyurethane:


Theater/Movie Set Design
Polyurethanes vast versatility lends themselves to on-site or studio production of needed settings. The savings can be considerable when compared to the cost involved to shoot the actual setting. Polyurethanes can be formulated to provide physical properties for structural applications such as facades to lightweight boulders to the replication of tree bark, to exacting duplications of extinct animals are possible with Polyurethanes.

Also noteworthy is Polyurethanes have excellent weatherability and superior abrasion and impact resistance.

I bet it's pretty lightweight too. What do you think you'll use for most of the structure?

[scarranbionoid]

most of it would probably be best in polyeurythane. ill leave what i already made in metal i.e. the two front panels and the door. ill have to experiment with getting the texture matched. what about flamability?

[Anubis]

and the fumes, I also understand that it is very flammable. I think foam is the way to go, maybe just not polyurethanes. Maybe you could use craft foam. Find a place where you could get some large thick pieces or get some large sheets of it and glue 'em together then start cutting them into shape. What about paints, do u airbrush?

[scarranbionoid]

i havent done any of it in anything but metal....ive been using brass,bronze, copper mixes and silver/gold paint techniques

[Anubis]

How far are you on drawing up the prints? Do you want anymore screencaps?

[scarranbionoid]

ive posted post of my drawings in this thread...the only new ones i have are of the door and the ceiling and the side walls

[scarranbionoid]

hey anubis! can u find any pics of talyn's bridge ceileing not the central dome or ribs but the place inbetween them and outside the ribs?

[Anubis]

Here's the site I've been getting the screencaps from: http://www.stykera.com/hm/uhm.htm

Maybe I'll look for some later tonight.

Nick

[scarranbionoid]

in looking at screencaps of talyn and pk command carriers...i noticed that the corridors of both look very similar....one could say that the similarity is from talyn's pk ancestry but in all actually they prob redressed the set to use for separate scenes.

[scarranbionoid]

its a tricky deal trying to figure out the layout of the side walls...can anyone help me with a drawing or such? all i know is that starting at the door its bent in twords the first rib with 2 of the white light "plates", then bends away with one "plate" then bends perpendicular to the door wall with 2 or 3 "plates" then stops at the rib on the side of the front console....any help? please?

[Anubis]

I would have to take a look at the eps and screencaps first, but maybe I'll try to get some sort of layout going, we'll see. If I do make one, it won't be super technical or anything, just a general idea of the layout.

[scarranbionoid]

i made one already and posted it but after watching "bone to be wild", "family ties", "green Eyed Monster", "Relativity" "meltdown" i noticed that the side walls were different then i first thought. u could use the drawing i posted earlyier to work from

[scarranbionoid]

this is a revised layout but i still would like some "other eyes" looking at it incase my depth perception etc. is off.

[scarranbionoid]

anyone out there who can help?

[scarranbionoid]

inside the red circle is the corner oon the wal i talked about

[scarranbionoid]

and another

[scarranbionoid]

and again

[scarranbionoid]

my revised floorplan ended up being the original just with lights added... unless anyone can back up some other claim. i dont care if im wrong just want it to be acurate.

[INeedMoreLight]

Looks good to me and from flipping back and forth between your screen caps and the floorplan it looks fairly accurate.

I don't know if your floorplan is going for exact match of Talyn's bridge or the schematic for your garage as the workplans. These are two different things. If its an accurate floorplan then I think this needs work in the area of scale as the walls look too far from the floor lights.

This looks more like a horizontal cross-section through the narrow parts of the lights you have circled in red with the floor superimposed on it as I see it. This bridge (and this is just my very rough view of it) is like the shape of a giant egg in that it is oval in shape and tapers to the bottom and the top as well as the front to the back.

Please don't take offense I think you did a grand job of it so far and I just sit back and critique, but this is my feeling. Perhaps its just because a flat 2D representation of a 3D spherical object does not render well.

[scarranbionoid]

no appreciate critisim...i just wanna get it as acurate as possible....like u said its hard to represent a 3d space on a 2d paper...the walls were placed that far cause the ribs i drew were just where they come out of the ground but stretch farther out up from the ground till the reach the ceiling farther back.......if i could get more screencaps from diff angles i could try more...the screen caps i find have like 10-20 seconds between them while the camera pans across the bridge in 10 seconds and u only get one pic.....

[scarranbionoid]

the wall lights are rectangular so the lights are uniform width all the way up fron top to bottom and the walls are that far from the lights cause the bases of the radial ribs do not got all the way to the walls cause the upper portion of the ribs bend back away from the central disc and then go up to the ceiling and the walls are right behind the ribs with no room to walk around the back of the ribs...what i do notice is that the door wall may be slightl farther from the center then i depicted.

[INeedMoreLight]

I am just looking at your posted pictures and the one just above your corrected floorplan on paper has the two red ovals circling the lights.

The lower Oval (Larger one) makes it look to me like the wall is farther away from the front of the light panel. unless what you are circling is actually not the light panel you are depicting in the floorplan. Whatever that is in the larger oval is wider and tapers as it goes up the wall towards the ceiling. Perhaps this is one of the Ribs.

I get a bit confused with these larger ships which is why I picked the Prowler to concentrate on... :) ... no ribs to it, no winding corridors, no different tiers! :D Just 2 wings, 2 cannons, 6 engines a cockpit, landing gear and fuselage.

[scarranbionoid]

yeah the wall bends inward toward the center of the room. with the ligts on the walls being vertical with the lower part bent in at a 45 degree angle...no the ribs i talk about are the 6 consoles in a radial pattern in the center of the bridge with red versions of moyas "ribs" that line moyas corridors and wierdly hold up the command ceiling.

[scarranbionoid]

im using this cool plexan type plastic sheet tht i made a frostted glass type look for the wall lights.

[scarranbionoid]

what can i do to copy the sounds talyn makes to get copies of the tones and some program to semi randomly play a tune?

[INeedMoreLight]

I see 2 options. One uses an MP3 player the other uses a cheap portable CD player, but either one must have a Shuffle or Random function AND a loop function.

MP3 idea:

Purchase a small memory MP3 Player say 68MB size which should be relatively cheap. Then rip the sounds he makes from the DVD's and creating "songs" from single or groups of his "beeps". When you have remixed perhaps 25 - 30 sounds and made sure the "dead air" is minimized in each "song" you upload the 25-30 string of songs into the player and attach that to your stereo system/amp whatever the speakers are setup to there and hit random and loop and it should work. The only drawback I see here is the power.

CD Player idea:
Burn the 25-30 sounds onto a CD and hitting random and loop on the player.

As for getting the sounds themselves if your DVD Player is a DVD Rom on your pc it should be no problem getting the audio, just time consuming. If your DVD player is separate, just hook up a tape recorder (remember what those were? I have a minidisk recorder now) to the amp/stereo or just use the built in mic to pick up the sounds then input them into your PC using the mic in jack of the audio card and using a MP3 converter (musicmatch, winamp...etc) create the MP3s.

[scarranbionoid]

hmm sounds like a plan

[scarranbionoid]

i dont have any kind of microcassette recording cords...i have a mic for my pc that i place next to the tv to record quotes...but the playback quality is terrible

[INeedMoreLight]

Ok how about the audio out from the VCR? Depending on the quality of the original signal you should get fairly decent signal OUT from that to your minirecorder. You will have to buy a plug that combines the RCA connectors into one and has a mini jack for the minirecorder.

Or even buy a combination regular small microphone jack and the other end 2 RCA-type cords to take the audio out and input directly into your PC?

[scarranbionoid]

ill give it a try next time i stop by radioshack...whenever that may be

[scarranbionoid]

i recorded some talyn sounds in wav format.....id post em online but i have no website and i dont know how

[scarranbionoid]

i finished my sketch of moya's cell/quarter's door......it will prob be easyier to make then talyn's bridge doors

[scarranbionoid]

what kind of puter program do i use to randomly play "notes" in talynspeak?

[scarranbionoid]

i wonder if i should make a replica of talyn's Sonic Assemblancy Canon?

[scarranbionoid]

does anyone have a best guess at the dimensions of moya's command or talyn's bridge? perhaps some obscure reference in the dvd extras, (i havent gone thru all the extras yet), or in the farscape magazine (which i hav never read).....help would be appreciated.

[INeedMoreLight]

Originally posted by scarranbionoid
what kind of puter program do i use to randomly play "notes" in talynspeak?

Since you seem to be putting a whole hearted effort into this rather than using random beeps and sounds why not sit down, watch a few of the eps and get a few whole strings of the replies Talyn makes rather than isolated ones. This will make it better and more "believable." Then collect them as i suggested once you have many and burn them on a CD as an audio CD and use a cheap CD player with a random function?

I know the soundbites are usually only say 2 or 3 seconds at the most but its better than nothing.

[scarranbionoid]

i recorded some talynspeak does anyone know a good puter program to randomly play them?

[scarranbionoid]

finished the cells from moya...but am still experimenting with pint to match the color...i made it out of resin with aluminum foil for texture.

[Anubis]

Yeah, I've been gone for awile, had some things going on, back now tho. If you need screencaps from ANY episode, or any ideas/suggestions, jusk ask.

[scarranbionoid]

got any good screencaps or renderings from Durka Returns when dargo enters and is inside that access shaft above the command room?

[Anubis]

Just tell me if you need more. The more specific the scene, the better because I have to go through my episodes and find the scenes then take the screencaps, thx.

Is this what you were looking for?

http://anubis.kickassmods.com/1.jpg

http://anubis.kickassmods.com/2.jpg

I thought you were just building Talyn's bridge, are you building Moya stuff too?

Also, any pics of your progress?

[scarranbionoid]

those arent what i meant but they help....in durka returns when durka takes control of moya from the command room and dargo clims into a shaft above command and gets locked in there by durka.

[Anubis]

Are you sure?

Here's one with D'argo in the shaft:

http://anubis.kickassmods.com/3.jpg

and one where he gets closed in:

http://anubis.kickassmods.com/4.jpg

Both are from Durka Returns, the only scene I could find with D'argo in the shaft.