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StarsGoBlue
02-10-2004, 03:59 PM
From today's Stockton Record:


County tries to help couple
Supervisors' appeal denied by homeowners
By Francis P. Garland
Lode Bureau Chief
Published Tuesday, February 10, 2004

SAN ANDREAS -- Calaveras County supervisors Monday approved asking a Copperopolis homeowners association to do whatever it can to keep a Lake Tulloch-area family from losing its home to foreclosure.

But the attorney for the Copper Cove at Lake Tulloch Owners Association said the group would do nothing to void the December foreclosure sale of Thomas and Anita Radcliff's Quill Road home, which took place after the Radcliffs failed to pay $120 in association dues.

"There is no basis to set aside the foreclosure sale," Michael Woodbury, a Sacramento attorney, said when asked about the board's written request, which was approved unanimously Monday.

"Ultimately, (the Board of Supervisors) would like the association to fix the Radcliffs' problem for them. And that's not fair."

The Radcliffs' problem came to light last month when they told the media they had lost their home to foreclosure for failing to pay $120 in homeowners dues.

Thomas Radcliff said he and his wife sent a dues payment to the association, but it still turned the matter over to a collection agency.

Supervisor Victoria Erickson said the Radcliffs' payment was $1.50 short -- and the agency and the association chose to pursue the foreclosure. "That's sickening," Erickson said.

A Bay Area man named Robert Vardanega purchased the home at an auction for a reported $70,000 -- less than half of the assessed value and only about one-fourth of what the Radcliffs claim the home is worth.

Calaveras supervisors, in their letter to the homeowners association, said this wasn't the first time the association had foreclosed on a home for similar reasons. ::: Advertisement :::


The board said it found such action "entirely inappropriate" and that foreclosure never should be used to collect unpaid association dues.

Erickson, who represents the Copperopolis area, said that although the association had a legal right to do it, she called the action "morally wrong."

Erickson called the law that gives associations the right to foreclose for unpaid dues "absolutely disgusting."

In addition to approving a letter to the association, the board agreed to send a letter to state Sen. Rico Oller, R-San Andreas, urging him to consider amendments to the current law that governs homeowners association foreclosures.

Among the board's suggested changes are a requirement that associations wait at least a year before foreclosing for unpaid dues, giving homeowners a 90- to 180-day "right of redemption" and requiring proof of personal contact for all notices.

An assessment firm that handled the Radcliffs' case for the Copper Cove homeowners group said it had sent numerous notices, but the family never responded.

Erickson, though, said the association should have made personal contact, given that the Radcliffs lived in the neighborhood.

"Why didn't they ever knock on the door and say, 'Hey, how you doing? Is there a problem? Can we help you out here?' " Erickson said.

Erickson said that when people are having medical problems, as the Radcliffs claim to have had, $120 can be tough to find. She said the association should have worked something out with the family.

Woodbury, though, said the Radcliffs had ample opportunity to make good on the dues, because they were due in January 2003 and the home wasn't sold until December.

Woodbury said he doesn't believe the law should be changed, because removing the "motivating factor" of foreclosure might prompt some homeowners not to pay their dues.

That, Woodbury said, would just put the burden on those who pay their dues and pay them on time. "That's fundamentally unfair," he said.

The Radcliffs, meanwhile, continue to battle to keep their home. They hope to convince a Superior Court judge Wednesday that Vardanega's eviction notice was flawed.

If that motion fails, the family plans to file a civil lawsuit against the association and its collection agency for breach of contract, unfair debt-collection practices and negligence, said Michael Macomber, a Sonora attorney representing the Radcliffs.

NYPinTA
02-10-2004, 04:05 PM
"Ultimately, (the Board of Supervisors) would like the association to fix the Radcliffs' problem for them. And that's not fair."


And taking someones' home for 120 dollars is??!

grinner
02-10-2004, 04:12 PM
sickening.

DRD2001
02-10-2004, 04:15 PM
Read your association contracts. I'm sorry this has happened to these people, but they blew off the letters, they never contacted anyone and they racked up a bunch of late fees. They chose this community, they signed a contract and now they do not want to follow the rules. I do feel sorry for them, but they should have treated this matter more seriously.

Lord Loser
02-10-2004, 04:15 PM
Starzie, starzie, starzie...

grinner
02-10-2004, 04:17 PM
the foreclosure of a house over a failure to pay $120 is a spurious case. The Homeowners association should NOT be allowed to do these things.

BrowderChick
02-10-2004, 04:20 PM
Hi LL...I wont get into it with you again on this but I am glad to hear that someone is trying to do something about getting that home back to its rightful owners.....

DRD2001
02-10-2004, 04:23 PM
The total came to more, once you included late fees. But people these days are so anal about the community they live in being "perfect", that they allow these contracts to exist. In our city, one homeowner's association does not allow trucks to be visible on the property. Even if it is a shiney new delux truck with all the bells and whistles. One woman didn't read her contract. Now she has to park down the block at a church, since she has no garage to hide her truck. You should read your contracts before you sign them.

As for what is morally right and legally right, that is the distinction that let people lose all their money on Enron stock. The world is not run by what is morally right, but what is legally right. Personally, I would prefer morally right, but I don't know whose morals they would pick as the standard and I could get burned on that one.

StarsGoBlue
02-10-2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Lord Loser
Starzie, starzie, starzie...

:confused: What? :confused:

AyuRocks
02-10-2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by DRD2001
The total came to more, once you included late fees. But people these days are so anal about the community they live in being "perfect"...

Arcadia... ::shiver::

(X-Files fans will get that one :))

Ashley

DRD2001
02-10-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by AyuRocks
Arcadia... ::shiver::

(X-Files fans will get that one :))

Ashley I did like that episode. :) Me and my pink flamingos.

PrairieScaper
02-10-2004, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by AyuRocks
Arcadia... ::shiver::
:rollin: My thoughts exactly!

What an odious situation. I cannot excuse the actions of the Arcadian homeowners assocn. at all. They are wretched and heartless. But I also cannot grasp why these homeowners did not act to prevent things from getting this far, which it seems they had a chance to do. I am entirely puzzled by both sides. What a sad situation.

Hell will be colder than Kansas in January before I'll ever move into one of those draconian conformist neighborhoods. Ugh.

gurnemanz
02-10-2004, 08:31 PM
The "padron y peon" system is alive and well in that part of California. I lived there, briefly. The system favors the well-heeled in such places far more than is normal.

Mrelia
02-10-2004, 10:16 PM
I still say that if they're forced to move out, they oughtta torch the place behind 'em! :ewink:

SabaceanBabe
02-11-2004, 06:33 AM
If you read the article a little more carefully, though, it's really over $1.50. The Radcliffes sent in a payment for the dues that was $1.50 short, so the homeowners association refused it.

Frelling morons.

PrairieScaper
02-11-2004, 11:13 AM
Ahhhh, obviously I missed that detail. It seems this assocn. just wants to get rid of these people for some reason, then?

DRD2001
02-11-2004, 11:35 AM
Here is the original article.
Couple lose their home over $120 debt
By Michael Kolber -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 2:15 a.m. PST Saturday, January 24, 2004

COPPEROPOLIS -- A retired couple's dispute with their homeowners association has spiraled out of control in this Calaveras County community -- and now they have lost their home less than a year after failing to pay $120 in annual dues.

Anita Radcliff, who owns the home with her husband, Thomas, said she had little hope of winning back the house, which the association's collection firm sold at a foreclosure auction in December for $70,000.

"One of the unfortunate things about people is when you get a little power, it goes to their heads," said Anita Radcliff, 61. "The homeowners association has a lot of power."

Michael Woodbury, attorney for the Copper Cove at Lake Tulloch Owners' Association, said the association aggressively pursued the debt because unpaid dues increase the financial burden on other homeowners.

"It's also important to understand the association is nothing more than all of their neighbors combined together," Woodbury said. "Somebody has to make up that difference when the association doesn't get paid."

Marjorie Murray, a lobbyist for the Congress of California Seniors on housing issues who is advising the Radcliffs, disputed that notion.

"Copper Cove is not going to go out of business because someone owes them $120," she said. "That is one of the classic arguments that debt collectors use."

The tussle began last January when the Radcliffs didn't have enough cash to make the annual dues payment. Anita Radcliff said she became distracted over the following months by a series of ailments that struck her husband, now age 64. He had a knee replaced and then was bitten by a spider, which required months of recuperation.

Radcliff said she didn't realize the importance of staying current on the bill.

"It just did not occur to me that it would go to that extreme as soon as it did," she said.

Throughout 2003, the association and its collection firm, Coast Assessment Service Co. of Garden Grove, said they made nearly a dozen attempts to collect the amount due, which has increased to $1,952 with late charges and collections fees.

The Radcliffs said they received few of these notices and didn't know their home had been auctioned off until they received a notice to vacate the property on Jan. 7, which they haven't done.

Their case is a reminder that associations have the power to foreclose for past-due bills, regardless of the amount. State Sen. Rico Oller, R-San Andreas, said Thursday that he plans to author legislation this year that would take away the rights of associations to foreclose.

"It was $120, and they're going to take away his house. That should never happen in America," Oller said. "This is a case of an association exercising what is arguably their right, but in a totally unreasonable and extreme way."

Oller, who once lived in the Copper Cove subdivision, said he is working to return the property to the Radcliffs, but that may be difficult.

The Radcliffs can receive about $60,000 from the sale of their house after paying off the homeowners association and a lien for past-due income taxes. All expect the home's current owner to demand much more than the $70,000 he paid for the house to sell it back to the Rad-cliffs.

"I doubt if that would be a viable option. He's going to look for profit," said Don Morger, the senior vice president of Coast Assessment Service.

The new owner could not be reached for comment.

A week ago, the Radcliffs were notified that the property's new owner was suing them to leave the home or pay a $43 daily rental, as of Jan. 11. They can stay at the property until a court hearing is held, likely in about a month.

But their Sonora lawyer, Mick Macomber, did not sound optimistic when asked whether the Radcliffs have a chance of winning their house back.

"We're hoping," he said. "Ask 50 lawyers, they'd probably all answer in different ways."

The episode is particularly jarring for the Radcliffs because they just finished building the home themselves last year. Thomas Radcliff is a retired construction worker and his three sons are carpenters and painters. A week of publicity surrounding their plight, including an appearance on CNN, has been draining on Thomas Radcliff, who his family said was bedridden this week with dangerously high blood pressure.

The Radcliffs bought the three-acre lot in 1999 for $30,000. When the two-bedroom, 1,728-square-foot home was completed last March, it was appraised at $258,000, the family said.

There are 2,400 lots in the Copper Cove subdivision, most of them still vacant. Some of the developed properties include mobile homes and similar small homes, while others are larger. An upscale equestrian community is being built in one part of the subdivision. All residents have access to a large softball complex, clubhouse and boat facility maintained by the association.

On Thursday, Carolyn Rad-cliff, the Radcliffs' daughter-in-law, looked down the hill in front of the house.

"It's hard to believe it's not theirs anymore," she said.

It is an aweful situation. I don't wish anyone to be in such a situation. I do feel sorry for them. But who here ignores bills and notices of overdue debt that comes to their door? Try it sometime and see what happens. The lesson is to READ AND UNDERSTAND ALL CLAUSES OF A CONTRACT BEFORE YOU SIGN IT. AND DO NOT IGNORE BILLS. I do hope it works out for them. I do not live in a neighborhood run by such an association because I understand there are a lot of strings attached.