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Kurt_eh
02-24-2004, 11:18 PM
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An art exhibit of a usable toilet enclosed in a cube of one-way glass is seen across the road from London's Tate Britain Museum. The person inside the outhouse can see passersby while remaining invisible to them.
By Jennifer Carlile
Reporter

MSNBC
Updated: 9:10 a.m. ET Feb. 23, 2004LONDON - Visitors to Britain will find a new stop on London’s site-seeing route this spring: a usable public toilet enclosed in one-way mirrored glass situated on a sidewalk near the River Thames. The contemporary art exhibit, which allows the user to see out while passers-by cannot peep in, toys with the concepts of privacy and voyeurism.

“I think there’d be a twinge of not believing that people outside couldn’t see you,” said Jeff Boloten, as he peered into the glass cube to see the metal prison toilet and its transparent walls.

The exhibit, entitled "Don’t Miss A Sec," is on display at a construction site across the road from Tate Britain, the national gallery of British art from 1500 to the present.

As museum-goers inquisitively press their noses to the reflective glass, and construction workers mill about, it isn't difficult to see why people would feel uneasy about using the glass outhouse.

'Playing with the idea of the most private bodily function and having to sit on a street corner is just bizarre.'


“Playing with the idea of the most private bodily function and having to sit on a street corner is just bizarre,” said Boloten, who works at the Tate Britain.
— Jeff Boloten Tate Britain employee

“The construction site makes it interesting because portable toilets are at construction sites all the time, but, the Tate Britain’s a respected institution; the juxtaposition makes it more unique,” he said.

Far from testing the viewers’ levels of embarrassment versus exhibitionism, the artist, Italian-born Monica Bonvicini, conceived of the idea while watching people at art openings. Amid the gossip and pageantry, nobody wanted to leave the room for fear of missing a key entrance or comment. The "Don’t Miss A Sec" exhibit -- which was unveiled in December -- reflects peoples’ reluctance to leave the spectacle, and allows the art-goer to remain in the action, even while on the toilet.

While some viewers meditate on the exhibit’s psychological and cultural implications others revert to telling potty jokes.

British dailies and art commentaries have also had fun with the subject: “Loo with a view” and “Bathroom humor in London” have been among the headlines.

Panoptican surveillance system
The use of the sterile prison toilet and sink unit stems from the fact that the site once housed the Millbank Penitentiary, where prisoners were held before being transported to Australia in the 1800s.


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A person cleaning the exterior of the ‘Don’t Miss A Sec’ art exhibit, in London, is photographed from inside the one-way glass cube that houses a functioning prison toilet and sink unit.


The prison's architect Jeremy Bentham had hoped to create a Panoptican, or all-seeing, surveillance system for the penitentiary.

His design envisioned a cylindrical central tower, from where a guard could see all the prisoners in their cells, which radiated out from the tower, without being seen himself.

Bentham believed that the knowledge that they were being watched would prevent prisoners from being disobedient, and that they would come to internalize the watchful eye and be able to act as their own guards if they were eventually released.

Although Bentham’s Panoptican was never realized, 21st century surveillance systems, like closed circuit television (CCTV), have taken on a similar role.

"Don’t Miss a Sec" turns the tables by taking the all-seeing power away from the camera and giving it to the person on the toilet, while letting them remain invisible to the world.

But peoples' fears of being seen with their pants down still hold strong.

Live Vote
What do you think about the toilet as an art exhibit? * 82923 responses


Dumb. A big waste of time
20%

Cool. If I go to London, I'll check it out
68%

Snooze. This kind of stuff is no longer shocking
12%


In 2000, a pair of self-proclaimed performance artists caused an uproar when they relieved themselves on artist Marcel Duchamp's 1917 sculpture of a urinal, on display at London's Tate Modern gallery.

But, even with full permission to defecate on Bonvicini's work of art, Britons and tourists alike tend to shy away from the challenge.

Considering that four-man outdoor urinals are a frequent site in the U.K. capital, some may question the need for nerves. And in some cultures using the toilet is not considered a private matter at all. In fact, it was common for ancient Greek aristocrats to discuss political and business affairs while attending to their own "personal business" in communal bathrooms.

Whatever one's take on toilet etiquette, visitors "Don't Miss A Sec" while viewing, or using, this exhibit.

© 2004 MSNBC Interactive

BrowderChick
02-24-2004, 11:26 PM
:snicker: Thats all I can say....:D:D

Kurt_eh
02-24-2004, 11:30 PM
Reading the article the first time, all I had in my head (for the strangest reason) was Homer's

"I'm wizzing with the door open, AND I LOVE IT!!!" :D :rollin:

BrowderChick
02-24-2004, 11:38 PM
:spew:

:rollin:

But could you use that bathroom and have someone come up to the wall thinking its a mirror and pick thier teeth? I would fall off the throne....

:rollin:

Kurt_eh
02-24-2004, 11:42 PM
:roflmao:

BrowderChick
02-24-2004, 11:44 PM
Not much room in there though....:):)

Kurt_eh
02-24-2004, 11:48 PM
:lol

Does this count as toilet humour? :D

BrowderChick
02-24-2004, 11:49 PM
What if someone came up to use the "mirror" and you suddenly start knocking on the wall...:rollin:

Or if you run out of toilet paper, who do you ask?

Deletham
02-25-2004, 12:26 AM
Quiet an interesting article... Only problem I have with it, and I guess it's just me and my sick mind what good would it be if you had some perv in there jerking off as he watched people pass by? Anyways don't know if I'd try it, toilet looks uncomfortable anyways... and one can never have an uncomfortable time on the toilet. :rollin:

Nicola
02-25-2004, 03:43 PM
:spew: Appeals to the sociologist in me... heheheheh.

AgentSun
02-25-2004, 03:47 PM
question is, how do you know its being used and uh...for those who ignored the warnings against a breakfast burrito, is it soundproof?

Scarran Raptor
02-25-2004, 04:02 PM
the problem with this is should something go wrong anyone using this could be faced with charges of both indecent exposure and relieving oneself in public, and it doesn't help that the only magazines in there are "look" "spy" and the french magazine "La Vouyeur d' merde"

Third EYe
02-25-2004, 04:36 PM
It's exactly what I need

MsWiggi
02-25-2004, 04:49 PM
I've got to say that is really cool! I would love to pee in there!

Kurt_eh
02-25-2004, 05:44 PM
I wonder if there's a warning on the outside:


Warning, do not use in a hailstorm!

Mrelia
02-25-2004, 05:59 PM
If not a perv in there, maybe an adventurous couple?
:lech:
Hmmm...I have an idea for a new artwork. I wonder if I can get a grant for it?

bouyantman
02-27-2004, 11:46 PM
i'd give it a shot http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage22/16.gif 2 if i liked it! http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/naughty1.GIF

Daffy
02-28-2004, 12:55 AM
:dunno:
Twisted :gasp: but cool. :lol
Seems to be a little small, though. :sumo:

Defect9
02-28-2004, 04:07 AM
Hey BT. want to join me?

BlackThorn
02-28-2004, 06:49 AM
No thanks. I'm sure you can find a more amicable companion for that sort of thing. :D

bouyantman
02-28-2004, 11:50 PM
http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/drink9.gif oh damn!.....i gotta go pee now!