Howard Stern off the air?

[NYPinTA]

I just saw this on MSN: http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=150856

Gee, guess I would have noticed if I listened to his show....

[Kurt_eh]

They were afraid he'd expose his nipple on his radio show!

[NYPinTA]

:rollin: I think everybody is afraid of that! oh wait....

[darius]

He was taken off in like 5 or 6 markets. I won't miss the show only because it's still on in NYC, I think it's a great show.

[Third EYe]

He was taken off all Clear Channel stations he was on, that's it. Clear Channel made a descision based on whatever.

The idiot that he is, Stern thinks it's about Bush.

Oh, and just because Stern is an idiot, I don't think Clear Channel should have shut him off, I especially think that the gov should keep the frell out of it, I'm sick of cencorship.

I don't listen to Stern, like I said he's an idiot, and he provides a service, and I dont' want it, so what.

[stellar]

Clear Channel is bowing to the Facists at the FCC so that their blind devotion to "truth, justice and the American way" can be looked upon kindly so that the FCC might see clear to letting them buy as many radio stations as their shriveled little hearts desire.

I saw the pompous show of schock and awe on the news this evening at the hearing. The kind of thick abhorent swill spewing out of the self important mouths of the mummies in that hearing is worse than any amount of Lesbian pondering and felatio meanderings that Howard Stern could conjur on his best day with no censors.

I don't want a thousand year old man deciding what is apropriate for me to hear, see, or think about. This kind of liberty-pollution has got to stop - it's worse then any number of nipple shields.

[darius]

Censorship? Fascists? Oh please! That kind of rhetoric went out long ago.

I'm sure McArthy said something like that

It isn't censorship to cancel a program.

It is when you cancel it because you are bowing to government pressure. I don't see how you can honestly think they didn't know what kind of shows they were carrying all these years.

[Third EYe]

I don't like that Clear Channel got rid of Stern, however I do understand thier right and respect thier decision to do so.

The government is practicing censorship and has been all along. I don't care who is in office, they are always telling us what can say and when we can say it.

There is far worse on Cable everyday than there is in a year on Stern.

Stern is still an idiot and reprobate, I don't listen to his show or anything like it.

[Harveylives]

Originally posted by stellar
Clear Channel is bowing to the Facists at the FCC so that their blind devotion to "truth, justice and the American way" can be looked upon kindly so that the FCC might see clear to letting them buy as many radio stations as their shriveled little hearts desire.

I saw the pompous show of schock and awe on the news this evening at the hearing. The kind of thick abhorent swill spewing out of the self important mouths of the mummies in that hearing is worse than any amount of Lesbian pondering and felatio meanderings that Howard Stern could conjur on his best day with no censors.

I don't want a thousand year old man deciding what is apropriate for me to hear, see, or think about. This kind of liberty-pollution has got to stop - it's worse then any number of nipple shields.

I agree they gov't should get out of all of this. Let the media consolodate, and let the people choose in what they want to hear and not hear. That's what the dial is for on the radio.

[bouyantman]

Originally posted by Harveylives
I agree they gov't should get out of all of this. Let the media consolodate, and let the people choose in what they want to hear and not hear. That's what the dial is for on the radio.
my thought's exactly!....and all this talk about stern...anyone ever hear of bubba the love sponge?...he too was on a clear channel down here in florida,and they yanked him off too!...and in my opinion is better than stern......and yes,i listened to stern for about 6yrs while i lived up north. :cool: it's a shame that we can't choose what we listen to.....quess i'll have to go pick up an xm reciever..:D

[mfa96]

Originally posted by stellar
Clear Channel is bowing to the Facists at the FCC so that their blind devotion to "truth, justice and the American way" can be looked upon kindly so that the FCC might see clear to letting them buy as many radio stations as their shriveled little hearts desire.

I saw the pompous show of schock and awe on the news this evening at the hearing. The kind of thick abhorent swill spewing out of the self important mouths of the mummies in that hearing is worse than any amount of Lesbian pondering and felatio meanderings that Howard Stern could conjur on his best day with no censors.

I don't want a thousand year old man deciding what is apropriate for me to hear, see, or think about. This kind of liberty-pollution has got to stop - it's worse then any number of nipple shields.

You said it Stellar!

Amazing how they pull Howard Stern on the eve of the head of Clear Channel testifying before Congress. They have had him for years, and it didn't bother them while they were making money hand over fist- now they've discoverd he might be a little blue for them? Please. :rolleyes:

The timing is very much like CBS not running the Child's Play commercial during the Super Bowl, and then Congress voting to make it okay for networks to own a greater percentage of local meida outlets (something CBS and Fox benefitted from)....

[Deletham]

After reading the article it's rather surprising what finally did it to him with the Clear Channel. Being only 19 years old I listen a lot to Howard and usually catch the show when its on tv on E but I have to say it's ridiculous WHY they did it. Granted he's vulgar and that's one reason why I find him so humorous to listen to but to cut him off after a caller used a racial slur.... come on, it seems that it would have been fine only if he had lost his cool and went off on the caller. I'm not saying that I am fine with racial slurs, far from it in fact but I think hanging up on the guy was enough... Then again I didn't listen in so I don't know what exactly went on

Even though his show is something that some would listen to everyone must realize that their are those out their who would. I think if anything they should have realized what he was all about and decided if he was in their best interest to pick up. Oh well, it was only six stations. Honestly though I don't believe it was them bowing to the FCC, they saw that it wasn't for their stations.... No worries to me though since we still get it out here on the West Coast on a rock station. To really know the situation it would have been nice to have had a list of what the stations were all about (genre).

[hmissesh]

You certainly do have to choose to have cable--but I personally dont see the difference between the choice to have cable and the choice to turn the channel from Howard Stern's radio show.
Seems like theres a lot of other programs.
I happen to like Howard's show very much--I find it very entertaining. BUT I would never let my kids listen to it--its for adults. I also dont think any of this nonsense is necessary, there are so many worse things to see on the internet than Janet would ever show us on TV or that Howard broadcasts everyday.
I listened to Howard's show pretty much everyday for almost 10 years straight--and I'm fine. Theres at least one person on these boards that can verify that I am a normal, well adjusted father of two.
I dont get all the fuss--maybe its like someone else said--Clear Channel is just showing that they do indeed uphold standards and that, that tricky Janet Jackson pulled one over on the industry--"dont blame us" sort of attitude.

[Third EYe]

That's it, you chose, and that, whether I agree with your choice or not, is what I thought it was about, being free to make choices.

[stellar]

The statements that Censorship and Facisim are rhetoric and knee-jerk monikers is not false. However to simply write the meaning of those terms off as insubstantial is dangerous.

If a group of people find Howard Stern's radio show basely offensive then that's their choice - unless they have the new knobless radios. What the contention of the FCC is that somehow his show is detrimental to society and will censor it - this is not a violation of free speech because he can still say anything he wants, just not on the air. It is a crippling of genuine participation of free speech. The FCC is using its regulatory power to establish certain boundries outside of which IT determines what the people of the US should not be allowed to participate in. It's using power to enforce it's ideas on the people - that is Facisim.

The FCC is a facist organization. If they recognize their position in the government then thay have to recognize that part of themselves.

[NebariNookiee]

Originally posted by BillFrugge

Personally, I'd like to see Bob & Tom go. I'm familiar with what they put on the air, and it's far worse.

Have you ever even listened to Bob & Tom? Howard Stern relied only on shock value to get where he is… er – was. Bob & Tom are at least funny! I listen to B&T every morning. They've won how many awards for broadcast excellence? At least one a year for the last 10 years! Stern's won what? :mad:

[stellar]

Originally posted by BillFrugge
Yeah. And Clear Channel made a choice.

Clear Channel is out for money. Fines are small potatoes to them. Their goal is to take more of the market and FCC regulation on how much of the air waves one entity can control conflict with Clear Channel's quest for more money. So they kiss the FCC's ass - that was their real choice.

And hey, if I wanted to listen to Dr. Laura, I can't. It seems a small group managed to get her taken off the air in this area. (Not that I like listening to her, but it's better than listening to Glen Beck! I'd rather listen to static.) So where's my freedom of choice?

That's how regulation should occur - through the free market, not some regulatory agency. I'm not advocating boycotting Dr. Laura. I've never listened to her so won't make judgements. If one group boycotts advertisers, or the radio station then the answer is to retalliate in support of her program. There's no retaliation against the FCC barring lobbying congress to desolve that organization.

I'd suggest buying a cd player.

[NYPinTA]

Originally posted by hmissesh

I listened to Howard's show pretty much everyday for almost 10 years straight--and I'm fine. Theres at least one person on these boards that can verify that I am a normal, well adjusted father of two.


Normal is such a strong word... ;) :rollin:

I am more worried about Clear Channel taking away our choice because they own everything then I am about Howard being gone. It won't be 'censorship' it will be 'business' but it boils down to the same thing, just a different entity doing it.

[mfa96]

The real problem here is market share. Clear Channel owns most of the radio stations down here in south Florida, and when they pulled Stern's show yesterday, there was nowhere else for him to go because there is no real competition down here for him to be on. That type of monopoly restrcits- and will potentially end- any choice we may have. We will be having some suit off on high making choices about what gets heard and what doesn't. If I don't like watching something on TV or listening to something on radio, I watch/listen to something else. Very simple- that's why G-d made dials.

It is incredible scary the way the FCC is strong-arming and intimidating compnaies to fall in line and do as they say. The first step in Fascism (to stretch a point) is controling the media. Look at Michael Savage; he told a caller that all gay people should get AIDS and die- I find that more offensive than Howard Stern talking about a woman's breast (that no one sees on radio). Welcome back to the 1950's.

[stellar]

Well said, mfa96.

A monopoly on the dispertion of public information is a horrific scenario.

[hmissesh]

Originally posted by NYPinTA
[B]Normal is such a strong word... ;) :rollin:

Oh like you'd know?!!
:) ;)

Its you that makes me crazy...and you know it!
:D :D


Stellar: "...knobless radios..." thats great--can I use that?

[stellar]

You may not.

I'm just kidding, of course you can. Use it till it falls off.

[NebariNookiee]

You guys think it's getting bad now? Has anyone ever heard of the Hays Code established in 1930?
http://www.artsreformation.com/a001/hays-code.html
Make's me think of the Comics Code in how iron fisted the guidelines are.

[Sunderflame]

Since we both live with listening to Bob N Tom in the morning, I did enjoy listening to them carry on. If it get's to riskgay, I change the station. As far as, Stern is concerned it's my opinion the man is trash, pure and simple. However, I have the "choice" to change the channel....which I do. I think Stern goes way out of his way to demean society's values or lack their of. The show has no morale contribution other than that of the smut slut community.

[darius]

Look at Michael Savage; he told a caller that all gay people should get AIDS and die- I find that more offensive than Howard Stern talking about a woman's breast (that no one sees on radio). Welcome back to the 1950's.

My exact thoughts. Except that nowadays the American public in general (or it's media representation), is way too sensitive to what people say, like that kind of stuff really matters. There are a whole lot bigger problems to deal with than this stuff.

[Digger]

Hey, now Howard Stern can join that other great defender of the First Amendment Larry Flint. :D

The idiot that he is, Stern thinks it's about Bush. Yes. Just not George.

[stellar]

:spew:

[Darth Buddha]

Megacorporations who want to appeal to the government are indeed a form of censorship. It was rampant during the 50's. Now we will slide back.

From the right, we get Christian Morality imposed on everyone, Family Values, and all that dren.

From the left, we get no slurs, no homophobia, and portraying stereotypes is bad.

In the end, it will be like our schoolbooks... peices of crap due to LCD... Least Common Denominator.

As for fascism... this is the most nationalistic and socially, militarily, and internationally far right president we have had in my memory.

Fascism is a scale... and we are moving up it.

[NebariNookiee]

Originally posted by BillFrugge
Amidst all of the accusations of censorship and fascism, no one here has yet to cite a reason that Howard Stern should be exempt from following FCC regulations for broadcasting, nor why a station should be forced into carrying his show. I don't care one way or the other, I'm just saying that before you condemn the whole government at some big fascist capitalistic state designed to make the rich richer, that you get the facts straight.

Clear Channel is a huge campaign contributor which is terrified that if the present administration is removed then they will loose some sort of grip on their broadcasting power. So they are pandering to the few who actually complain in order to hang on to their communication monopoly because those people complaining are the same one’s the crooks… I mean bureaucrats listen to in Washington. (Don’t forget – Clear Channel was all for the consolidation of media and the relaxing of ownership guidelines.)

The problem is that it’s all one sided due to the fact that they don’t actually care about decency for the sake of decency – they just don’t want to loose money from any possible listener boycotts or from any stress the jokers at the FCC may lay on them. And out of the millions of people who listen to Clear Channel (for no other reason than that is all there is to listen to in their area) only a few hundred, maybe a few thousand nationwide would actually complain or threaten a boycott.

I personally can’t stand Howard Stern – I don’t find him funny. However he is hugely popular around the country and has been for many, many years. To drop him now over “obscene” material in the wake of everything that’s been going on since the Super Bowl is nothing more than pandering to those in power. We the people have the right to decide for ourselves what we want to listen to – it is not up to a government agency, nor any other member of society, to decide for me, you or anyone else what should be considered “decent” – we’re pretty smart and can decide for ourselves. When things of this nature happen – it doesn’t remove the problem – it only removes our choice to decide for ourselves. Clear Channel buckled under the pressure because they don’t want the stress.

It’s the same thing as the Senate hearings on comic books in the mid 50s. Some huckster named Dr. Frederic Wertham claimed that comics were the soul reason for delinquency in teenagers and children and that super powered fictional characters and horror and crime comics were destroying our children’s minds. (I dare everyone to try and read his book “Seduction of the Innocent” without puking) The comic industry simply bent over and took it up the eema – because they were afraid to tell the bigwigs to “frell off!” It’s all about one organization making the decision for everyone because those that are actually effected are too afraid to stand up and be counted. The FCC says it’s indecent – who’s gonna argue.WELL, I WILL DAMNIT! AND I’LL DO IT VERY LOUDLY!!!

Freedom of speech is just that: freedom to speak your mind. There is no gaurantee that we have to provide a means to deliver that speech.

That too is such a one sided argument. That statement means that you can say anything you want, but we can’t be bothered with allowing you to let your message be heard. Communication corporations – like Clear Channel – have to answer to the bigwigs. And when the bigwigs decide something shouldn’t be heard, then it isn’t heard.

Freedom is only a concept. We are all born “free” – it’s those in power that decide how much of that “freedom” we get to use.

But I guess we’re too stupid to decide for ourselves.

[Third EYe]

I agree that CC doesn't have to provide the means by which someone delivers thier "free speech"

That's about all I agree with, as far as censoring Stern.

[Darth Buddha]

Actually, I can't see any value to what Stern does anymore.

He used to be brilliantly profane and artistically inane.

Now he's just profane. Old age, maybe?

[stellar]

I'm only tangentially familiar with Howard Stern. He comes on in New Orleans but not here. I've seen his TV show, but I generally don't stay up that late 'cause I'm a 28-year old geezer.

[Sunderflame]

OMG! I just have to say this....Howard Stern has limp#@$% syndrome....freedom of speech and all...
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[stellar]

Originally posted by Sunderflame
Howard Stern has limp#@$%

You know if someone came up with a pill or something that could fix that... well he could make a pretty penny.

[Sunderflame]

Man I'm crackin up with that remark....Then howy would stick out like a sore thumb, going my way? I don't think so....
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[Darth Buddha]

Although a rare occurrence, men who experience an :)>>! for more than 4 hours should seek immediate medical attention.

As my man Tony said, call the Rockettes first.

[frellyou]

I think we should be very afraid of what's going on. I hope everyone here realizes that the FCC now wants to regular cable and satellite. This is bigger than Howard Stern. The government needs to stay out of our homes.

[fermicat]

Howard Stern is one thing, but Sandra Tsing Loh? Apparently she was fired for one instance of saying the f-word. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=4502481 There is a world of difference between Stern and Loh. Sounds like an overreaction catalyzed by the recent flap over Boobgate. It's too bad, because she is a witty commentator. At least she'll still be on Marketplace once in a while....

[Browncoat Serenity]

Howard is finished

http://money.cnn.com/2004/12/23/news/newsmakers/stern/

[BillFrugge]

Not even close to being finished.

You must not have read the full article. Advertising is heavy during the show, and there is a lot of money to be had keeping him on the air. Every day Stern is on, he is promoting Sirius radio.

If he gets himself fired, Sirius would accelerate their efforts to get him on XM before January 2006.

Stern is in full control of this. Either way, he wins.

[witchdoctor]

,,,,, I hope everyone here realizes that the FCC now wants to regular cable and satellite. This is bigger than Howard Stern.

Is there something specific that prompted you to say this? press release? public comments by FCC personel? or is this more a statement of your fears of what they are up to?

I would find the idea of the FCC regulating cable and satellite radio very disturbing. One of the often cited justifications for regulation of the public airways is that there are other forums (cable and satellite radio for example) for views, opinions, mature entertainment and topics to be aired. But now subscription services are to be regulated and censored too? If true, this would be very disturbing.

[BillFrugge]

The comment was posted back in March. This is yet another old thread that's been ressurected...

The FCC has already stated that they have no intention of regulating Howard Stern on Satellite. Everyone can now fly back onto their handles.