What do you think will happen to the baby?

[Chi27]

What do you think will be the outcome of the baby, if there is a resolution in the mini or a subsequent feature film?

1. J&A have a healthy baby. Birthing the baby is relatively normal.
2. Aeryn tragically loses the baby later in the pregnancy
3. Baby is kidnapped by Scorpy
4. Baby is kidnapped by the Scarrens
5. What baby - oops the baby is not reconstituted?

[Chi27]

I posted this poll because I've read a fair share of fics where Aeryn either loses the baby or there's something wrong with the baby after birth and wonder what others think.

[JrMissToughChick]

They've suffered too much loss in thier relationship let them have a healthy baby!

[Chi27]

Yeah, they have suffered tremendous losses. I'm all for an angst-fest, but I want them to have a healthy baby in the end. :) I don't think I could watch it if they lost their baby. Sheesh, it was downright traumatizing watching Aeryn watch T-John die in IP and then a whole episode devoted to Aeryn's grief in "The Choice.

[zelbinion]

something has to happen to the baby, heck, it would be boring to have a healthy kid on moya with no one trying to kidnapp him or do something funky to him.
Unless of coarse the show ends with a happily ever after cliche

[Chi27]

Originally posted by zelbinion
something has to happen to the baby, heck, it would be boring to have a healthy kid on moya with no one trying to kidnapp him or do something funky to him.
Unless of coarse the show ends with a happily ever after cliche

Ugh! Why is it cliche if they have a normal baby? I've been down that road with a...um...less-than-normal baby-everybody-and-their-momma-want-to-kill-it-or-experiment-on-it on The X-Files. Believe me you don't want to go there. It reeked on that show and it won't work on Farscape. I did read a fic where Aeryn was kidnapped by Scorpy and PKs before she gave birth. Aeryn went into labor and gave birth. Scorpy's interest in the baby was because she was part human/Sebacean and thus he subjected the baby to high temperatures to see if she was immune to heat delirium. At any rate, the story was quite good and great ending. That doesn't mean I want to see that on the show. I think it's just a bad writing to endanger a helpless baby because it demonstrates a lack of creativity on the part of the writers for writing drama for the adult characters.

[DorothyGail]

None of the above. I expect to be dazzled by whatever they come up with, and slap myself and say, "I can't believe they just did that!"

They've been dropping little threads all through 4 seasons about how much it means to John to be a father, what it means to Aeryn to be a mother. It would be too easy and predictable and boring to just hit the reset button and get rid of the baby in some way, and it's never sappy on Farscape.

You need a category for - "They'll probably come up with something I wouldn't have thought of ..."

[Chi27]

Originally posted by DorothyGail
None of the above. I expect to be dazzled by whatever they come up with, and slap myself and say, "I can't believe they just did that!"

They've been dropping little threads all through 4 seasons about how much it means to John to be a father, what it means to Aeryn to be a mother. It would be too easy and predictable and boring to just hit the reset button and get rid of the baby in some way, and it's never sappy on Farscape.

You need a category for - "They'll probably come up with something I wouldn't have thought of ..."

Well, there's always room for an "other" category even if I didn't include it in the poll. You're so right about the little hints that were dropped like John talking to his daughter in LATP or when Aeryn comforted that little girl in...(forgot the episode) and then was accused of being weak by Henta. Didn't DK say something to the effect of don't be surprised if the baby is not that important or something like that. That could be a good thing from my experience in another fandom. As far as sappy goes, there's nothing sappy about J&A's relationship and I don't think adding the baby to the mix is going to change things.

[dzynz]

Well, the x-files was a horrible outcome...
Angel did a good job, albeit a bit predictable it was done so well it didn't matter, and was still suprising when it happened.

I think it would be interesting for it to be a normal child growing up on moya, with noranti as a nanny, I mean come on, how frelled is that to begin with?

The problem with introducing a baby, which they delt with the only scifi way possible in Angel (and to a lesser degree, earth final conflict), is that it takes a child a very long time to mature and babies are not ineresting characters in and of themselves. At least if it was a five or 6 year old it could be intersting, but infants are just burdensome. I'd say if they have the baby expect it to be a season finale with them leaving moya and settling on a planet then some crazy fate befalling moya as rygel tries to regain power or something... that has to come into play somehow.
Regardless, expect the break between one season and the next to be upwards of a year and a half in the farscape realm. Then the child is old enough to have a character and Aeryn and John will probably have a whole new set of relationship issues.

[Chi27]

Originally posted by dzynz
I think it would be interesting for it to be a normal child growing up on moya, with noranti as a nanny, I mean come on, how frelled is that to begin with?

Noranti as nanny. :rollin: Perhaps if the baby is normal (which I hope) it will be what sets Farscape apart from those other shows like TXF which was putrid.

The problem with introducing a baby, which they delt with the only scifi way possible in Angel (and to a lesser degree, earth final conflict), is that it takes a child a very long time to mature and babies are not ineresting characters in and of themselves. At least if it was a five or 6 year old it could be intersting, but infants are just burdensome. I'd say if they have the baby expect it to be a season finale with them leaving moya and settling on a planet then some crazy fate befalling moya as rygel tries to regain power or something... that has to come into play somehow.
Regardless, expect the break between one season and the next to be upwards of a year and a half in the farscape realm. Then the child is old enough to have a character and Aeryn and John will probably have a whole new set of relationship issues.

True, babies are not interesting, except for being cute and that's fine with me. See, that was the downfall of the X-Files when they wrote a storyline around a newborn by making him...well you know what happened there. At any rate, letting this baby on Farscape just be J&A's baby for now is, imo, the best way to go. If there is a S5 (I still have hope), or another movie to follow this one then the baby won't be a baby anymore and will be a little kid. Chances are that had Farscape not been cancelled that this baby would've been born near the S5 finale, but it was my understanding that there were to be a S6. So were they planning to advance the story by year or so after the baby's birth? Who knows.

[Ouroboros]

Didn't the shows creators more or less state that the baby was not going to be very permanent? I'd say it'll have something to do with them getting put back together. It'll either happen by accident or John will have to chose to lose the baby or both the baby and Aeryn. IE he can bring her back but the baby won't survive the re-animation process.

This baby, if it is born, will only serve to center the storyline even more around John and Aeryn. They already dominated season 4, they don't need 5 as well. Let the other characters have some time and development, like Noranti.

[Chi27]

Originally posted by Ouroboros
Didn't the shows creators more or less state that the baby was not going to be very permanent? I'd say it'll have something to do with them getting put back together. It'll either happen by accident or John will have to chose to lose the baby or both the baby and Aeryn. IE he can bring her back but the baby won't survive the re-animation process.

This baby, if it is born, will only serve to center the storyline even more around John and Aeryn. They already dominated season 4, they don't need 5 as well. Let the other characters have some time and development, like Noranti.

I wish someone had the exact quote, but I thought the word was "important" in reference to the baby.

I think they have done a wonderful job of developing the characters in the past when the show was centered around J&A. I don't think bringing a baby into the mix is going to alter that... if a S5 comes about.

[Clarsax]

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Farscape doesn't know how to have a happy ending. I think Aeryn will have a troubled pregnancy and lose the baby (or maybe she lost it when she was neutralized, after all, the aliens didn't know she was pregnant and may not have calculated for that), or else Scorpius or the Scarrans will kidnap it and it will become even more lost than Jothee was for D'argo.

[JrMissToughChick]

I'm not saying it will ever end happy but still they should get the baby in the end it wouldn't be fair otherwise.

[Chi27]

I think this piece of dialogue from BT perfectly illustrates why doing something tragic to the baby is a bad idea. I'm not saying that their road is going to be easy, but we've seen how much family and kids mean to him. Perhaps FS will go against the grain and do something different to bring angst in their lives besides endangering their child.


John: "What did you imagine... for your life?" He turns his head to look at her.
Aeryn takes a deep breath: "Service, promotion, retirement, death. You?"
John: "This is exactly what I imagined."
A tiny smile starts on Aeryn's face.
John: "And a coupla kids." He turns and walks away, scratching his head. He picks up a tool off the rack and starts back.

[Bronathar]

Here's my thought on the whole "baby" thing. The guy that "neutralized" J/A study them for further analysis, and say about the baby to the person on the other side of the coms. Well I think the baby may be kidnapped yes... But then what happens is they rescue the baby and start running... still.


... Since the baby is only born and all the danger is lurking around every corner, John tries to find another wormhole leading to his solar system or around his home planet. Even though J/A may not want to do such a thing, wanting to be there for the baby growing up, they give the baby to John's dad to watch, until a time they can return when it is safe.

Just a lil thought

[dzynz]

I totally forgot about the possiblity of time dialation, if john gets seperated from aeryn through a wormhole or something, its concievable he wont catch uo them again for months/years... I'd rather not see that very extreme because of the whole Angel thing, but thats just my opinion.

[Selena]

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Fear not! Rockne has already revealed that Rygel attends Aeryn when she gives birth and the baby is just fine. It's a girl. Read the Rockne story Horizons in the last edition of Farscape magazine.

[Harveylives]

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Fear not! Rockne has already revealed that Rygel attends Aeryn when she gives birth and the baby is just fine. It's a girl. Read the Rockne story Horizons in the last edition of Farscape magazine.

Yes, but it never stated what happened to the child after it was born. I think it would be best for "Einsteins" race to come and take the child and protect it in his dimension/universe/ wherever he lives. If after the mini the the child stayed on moya, I would not watch further. That would be just a little too happy of an ending for me.

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Fear not! Rockne has already revealed that Rygel attends Aeryn when she gives birth and the baby is just fine. It's a girl. Read the Rockne story Horizons in the last edition of Farscape magazine.


ROFLMAO Rygel plays midwife???? :rollin: Rockne must be kidding, right. I can't see Aeryn letting that little slug anywhere near that part of her anatomy. :rollin:

[Selena]

But of course it happens ... that would be the last thing we would expect ... we all know that we've been taken on the ride of our life over the last 4 years and that Farscape came out of the quirky, demented, bizarre imaginations of Rockne, David and Ricky et al!

[Chi27]

Originally posted by Selena
But of course it happens ... that would be the last thing we would expect ... we all know that we've been taken on the ride of our life over the last 4 years and that Farscape came out of the quirky, demented, bizarre imaginations of Rockne, David and Ricky et al!

Nah, ain't gonna happen. Yeah, he probably said it because it was so totally unbelievable. I do think Aeryn is going to have a girl, though. But I don't think he'd give out a huge spoiler and I'm in complete denial that Rygel is delivering Aeryn and John's baby. :rollin:

[dzynz]

I honestly don't treat horizons as an ips facto for the farscape universe, just a story of what might be.

[Dangermousie]

Well, I voted for baby is not reconstituted. That way they don't have the baby issue any more (always a tricky thing on any show), and give Aeryn and John more angst (something the writers delight in.)

However, this being Farscape, I think that what they do would be something I cannot predict.

Alternative: Speaking from "caring for characters" POV, as opposed to "great storytelling" POV, it would be nice for the baby to be fine and be born normal. A&J have enough grief in their lives, they don't really need more. They could have the baby be in the background. Not a supernatural being, but a normal baby, and thus not deserving of much storytime. If we see it a minute or two out of the hour, that is not too bad. I don't find DRD's interesting as characters, and they don't have much screentime, so that's fine. Same deal with the baby would be OK.

[bummer23]

I think I'd like for the baby to be born, normally and all that. No baby-napping, or experiments, etc. I'm sure there'd be quite a bit of keep-away, since several species would want a piece of the baby for various reasons...leverage against John, plus the half-human aspect and potential for study, etc. I could deal with the threat hanging over them regarding people wanting the baby; but I'd like to see them as relatively normal parents waking up at all hours of the night and needing a babysitter! :swing: Plus, putting up with a toddler wanting to touch everything on Moya and disappearing to who knows where on the ship :prop:

[Chi27]

Originally posted by Dangermousie
Well, I voted for baby is not reconstituted. That way they don't have the baby issue any more (always a tricky thing on any show), and give Aeryn and John more angst (something the writers delight in.)

However, this being Farscape, I think that what they do would be something I cannot predict.

Alternative: Speaking from "caring for characters" POV, as opposed to "great storytelling" POV, it would be nice for the baby to be fine and be born normal. A&J have enough grief in their lives, they don't really need more. They could have the baby be in the background. Not a supernatural being, but a normal baby, and thus not deserving of much storytime. If we see it a minute or two out of the hour, that is not too bad. I don't find DRD's interesting as characters, and they don't have much screentime, so that's fine. Same deal with the baby would be OK.

Well, now that we've read the press release from Henson, it was a little spoiler-ish in regard to the baby...

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Seems that the baby is reconstituted along with J&A. So this option is a moot point. :)

Others may seek out to kidnap the baby for whatever...the baby being a link to John's wormhole knowledge, etc. But that baby couldn't have better protectors than J&A. IMO, DK, Rockne and writers haven't let us down in regard to J&A's relationship and I no reason to fear that they can't incorporate a baby into their life. I'm also aware how bad it can go, I only have to look M&S's baby on The X-Files. But there's a difference -- the baby on TXF was a plot device plain and simple with no forethought as to how they were going to incorporate that child into the show. The outcome was horrendous and I'll never forgive the writers for what they did.

[evilnos_unholy]

wouldn't it be great if the baby is born with a tiny tight pony tail?

lol ... anyways, I think what will happen is that the baby will be born and held prisoner by someone, I am not sure who right now, but it seems plausible that they would try and use him/her (it better be a him, john already has a daughter from "look at the princess" ) to make john do as they please, also one more thing, would it be possible that harvey gets transfered to the baby? now that they (ayrin and JC) are gonna get reconstructed somehow? or what if ayrin ends up with harvey in her head?

[StarsGoBlue]

Well, now that we've read the press release from Henson, it was a little spoiler-ish in regard to the baby...

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Seems that the baby is reconstituted along with J&A. So this option is a moot point. :)

was there another press release? because i didn't get that impression from what i read... yes, aeryn was pregnant, but that doesn't necessarily mean she will still be pregnant whenever/however the pieces are put back together again... :dunno:

i'd be a vote for 'no baby' too.

[jerseygirl]

Well, considering all the distress we poor scapers have been through since the cancellation - in terms of story left hanging, I mean...and considering that there's absolutely no guarantee of a 5th season, I don't think they'd torture us again and leave the baby thread unresolved. I also can't imagine that they'd make the end SO tragic that we'd all end up wanting to go out and slit our throats. So my guess is that the baby will be born after frell-all kinds of crises and that it will by okay. Or perhaps the birth won't have yet occurred, but we're left with all of them looking forward to the impending birth. (Can't imagine it taking place anywhere but on Moya, right?)

The thing that's been nagging at me is the gender. It seems as though most people who've given it any thought imagine that it's going to be a boy. I kind of think it's going to be a girl. Aeryn herself has called the baby "her". It would also be nice in that they can name her after both Aeryn's and John's mothers.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Well, considering all the distress we poor scapers have been through since the cancellation - in terms of story left hanging, I mean...and considering that there's absolutely no guarantee of a 5th season, I don't think they'd torture us again and leave the baby thread unresolved. I also can't imagine that they'd make the end SO tragic that we'd all end up wanting to go out and slit our throats. So my guess is that the baby will be born after frell-all kinds of crises and that it will by okay. Or perhaps the birth won't have yet occurred, but we're left with all of them looking forward to the impending birth. (Can't imagine it taking place anywhere but on Moya, right?)

The thing that's been nagging at me is the gender. It seems as though most people who've given it any thought imagine that it's going to be a boy. I kind of think it's going to be a girl. Aeryn herself has called the baby "her". It would also be nice in that they can name her after both Aeryn's and John's mothers.

Everywhere I've gone, I hear people saying it is going to be a girl, though; I don't think I personally have heard anyone say boy yet.

[Chi27]

Well, considering all the distress we poor scapers have been through since the cancellation - in terms of story left hanging, I mean...and considering that there's absolutely no guarantee of a 5th season, I don't think they'd torture us again and leave the baby thread unresolved. I also can't imagine that they'd make the end SO tragic that we'd all end up wanting to go out and slit our throats. So my guess is that the baby will be born after frell-all kinds of crises and that it will by okay. Or perhaps the birth won't have yet occurred, but we're left with all of them looking forward to the impending birth. (Can't imagine it taking place anywhere but on Moya, right?)

The thing that's been nagging at me is the gender. It seems as though most people who've given it any thought imagine that it's going to be a boy. I kind of think it's going to be a girl. Aeryn herself has called the baby "her". It would also be nice in that they can name her after both Aeryn's and John's mothers.

Some how I don't get the feeling we'll be left hanging where the baby is concerned. I know a lot of people are probably yelling NOOOO! SHE CAN'T HAVE THE BABY IN THE MINI, but I think she does for the simple reason that as of right now (from what we know) there's no S5 on the horizon. Since the kid has been released from stasis at the end of S4 in La Bomba, it must've been the intent of TPTB that Aeryn was going to have the baby in S5. Now we have a four hour mini to wrap up some storylines including that one. The baby storyline doesn't have to be wrapped up in the mini, but it's a very nagging thread that really needs to be dealt with if there is to be no S5. (I'm still hoping, though :D )

On the contrary, I've read a lot of fics where she has a girl. In John's fantasy, when he feeling the baby kick, she calls it a girl because apparently the kick more than boys. (I might have to agree with her on that one as my daughter didn't give me any rest and was way more active than my boys :bounce: LOL ) Then again if she has a little boy she can name him Talyn John Crichton or TJ for short. ;) :D

[StarsGoBlue]

Since the kid has been released from stasis at the end of S4 in La Bomba, it must've been the intent of TPTB that Aeryn was going to have the baby in S5...<snip>...Then again if she has a little boy she can name him Talyn John Crichton or TJ for short. ;) :D

that BOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!! you just heard was dk's head exploding... :devil:

and personally, i don't think tptb necessarily had that intent. i like ben's idea of feeding the baby to moya. :elol:

[Chi27]

that BOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!! you just heard was dk's head exploding... :devil:

and personally, i don't think tptb necessarily had that intent. i like ben's idea of feeding the baby to moya. :elol:

That's evil. :elol: :elol: :elol:

[jerseygirl]

my daughter didn't give me any rest and was way more active than my boys :bounce: LOL ) ;) :D

Well, I only had boys, so I can't compare, but they really kicked the dren out of me and never sat after they were born. Now that they're taller than me, they squeeze the stuffing out of me when they hug me. (Don't get me wrong - I love that part. But couldn't they do it just a LITTLE gentler?)
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