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grinner
03-15-2004, 05:32 AM
It's another world . . . but is it our 10th planet?
By Louise Milligan and agencies
15mar04

SCIENTISTS have found a new world orbiting the solar system – more than 3 billion kilometres further away from the Sun than Pluto and 40 years away from Earth in a space shuttle.

NASA is expected to announce today the discovery of the space object, which some experts believe could be a new planet.

It is provisionally known as Sedna, after the Inuit goddess of the sea.

The discovery of Sedna – 10 billion kilometres from Earth – is a testament to the new generation of high-powered telescopes.

Measurements suggest Sedna's diameter is almost 2000km – the biggest find in the solar system since Pluto was discovered 74 years ago. It is believed to be made of ice and rock, and is slightly smaller than Pluto.

The find will reignite the debate over what constitutes a planet. Some scientists claim even Pluto is too small to count as one.

According to astronomer Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology, who discovered Sedna, there could be many other new worlds orbiting the Sun and waiting to be discovered.

"Sedna is very big, and much further out than previous discoveries," he said. "I'm pretty sure there are other large bodies up there too."

But physicist and cosmologist Paul Davies, of Sydney's Macquarie University, said it was folly to describe Sedna as a planet. "It's fun, it's exciting, but let's keep it in proportion," Professor Davies said yesterday.

He said scientists had known for "a decade or so the solar system does not come to an abrupt halt" and there were a number of "planetessimals" or little planets, like Sedna. link (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,8968352,00.html)
and here I am thinking that Mondas was the 10th Planet...

stellar
03-15-2004, 07:06 AM
It's an important discovery for cosmography, but not a planet. Technically, there are eight planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune). Pluto is not a planet, but a planetesimal or a really big comet. However, Pluto as a planet is so ingrained in the common culture that it will keep the designation as a planet for that reason. However, just because we call Pluto a planet because of a cultural recognition doesn't mean that if you have a object that is similar to pluto it must be a planet too.

If Sedna had been discovered 60 or 70 years ago then it would have been called a planet and it would have stayed a planet today because of cultural recognition. We know better now. It's a planetesimal - bigger than a planetoid, but not quite there yet. Sorry Sedna.

* Edited for reaons you'll never know. *

LadyCrais
03-15-2004, 10:18 AM
This makes me wonder if the satellites that we send out of the solar system actually leave, or if some proportion simply crash on something we had no idea was there.

Darth Buddha
03-15-2004, 11:33 AM
Some probes have left the plane of the solar system, so there's not much to hit.

Plus, further you go out, the larger the volume that matter IN the plane of the solar system is spread around.... I don't know for sure, but I suspect the asteroid belt between Mars & Jupiter is much more densely packed, ergo higher risk.

Too bad Sedna doesn't cut the mustard for a planet. We could really use that kind of excitement.

Of course, some of the astronomers whose studies support the asteroid or comet impact theory for the end of the dinosaurs have suggested there may be stuff far more esoteric behind the cyclical bombardment of the inner planets.. like a neutron star or a small black hole.

Now THAT would generate some excitement!

who45
03-15-2004, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by grinner
and here I am thinking that Mondas was the 10th Planet... :lol

grinner
03-15-2004, 03:49 PM
And Who is the only one to get the reference. :innocent:


should we be worried about Cybermen?

Kurt_eh
03-15-2004, 03:54 PM
Mondas doesn't count because it's not truely in solar orbit any move...

grinner
03-15-2004, 04:14 PM
that's only because UNIT destroyed it with the help of the Good Doctor.

Kurt_eh
03-15-2004, 04:14 PM
True, true, perhaps Sedna is a part of what's left?

grinner
03-15-2004, 04:28 PM
Maybe... I think I may want to make some gold purchases

Kurt_eh
03-15-2004, 04:29 PM
Gold, or gold dust?

It did seem to change over the years, didn't it?

grinner
03-15-2004, 04:31 PM
well... you can make dust out of gold bricks... :D

Kurt_eh
03-15-2004, 04:32 PM
:headbang: What was I thinking?

grinner
03-15-2004, 04:34 PM
:dunno: :P:P:P

who45
03-15-2004, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by grinner
And Who is the only one to get the reference. :innocent:


should we be worried about Cybermen? And did you doubt me,lol. :D

Fyodor
03-16-2004, 09:42 AM
A planet appearing as if from nowhere huh.... ALIENS!!! It sounds like an alien plot to me.

...gotta cut down on the conspiracy theory and sci-fi mix.

NYPinTA
03-16-2004, 12:59 PM
Not a planet, but it shouldn't feel bad. It's cool that they now know it is there & I think the name is cool too. :D

BTW I kinda figured that "Mondas" thing was a reference to something I knew nothing about. :D And I was right! :lol

BrowderChick
03-17-2004, 05:58 PM
This is still cool though :D:D