If ever a spinoff... scorpius based?

[dzynz]

He's by far the most interesting character as far as motives and the like go, he was a good villain and argueably a better anti-hero. If the sohw was to come back succesfully, and then spinoff a FS TNG kinda thing, anyone think something scorpy based could ever pull things off? I mean, if you bring Braca back into the mix his character still has plenty of potential, and sikozu could of course fill out the carry over roster. Just throwin this all out there.

And yes, yes of course it loses that touch that john as a human adds, but whos to say crichton's son wouldn't make it into the mix or some other human.

[Jeff O'Connor]

That's a wonderful idea. Looking at Farscape I've often thought of how the characters are so deep and inspiring that virtually no amount of expansion on them would truly complete them, because they're so... well, can't say Human because most aren't... I should say... 'real'.

A Scorpie-based spinoff, complete with his boy Braca and the illustrious Sikozu, could be quite entertaining indeed.

[Antrobus]

I think there are numerous spin off potentials to Farscape. There were so many running lines that could support a spinoff. There's the Nebari resistance, the Pathfinders, etc.

Of course it would make financial sense to keep the show PK based because otherwise the make up and costumes would be costly.

Of course there could always be the Furlow spinoff!! What race was she??

[Doc Holiday]

I just want the old Farscape back right now. Stark is also a good cast member for the Scorpie based spin-off.

[dzynz]

would stark be a villain in scorpy based spinoff?

I think he'd be the one character that couldnt carryover because he's too crazy for scorpius to tolerate considering he hates scorpius as well. (However a stint where he finds a need for the former slave, well thats another matter entirely)

[Ouroboros]

I suggested a while ago that if they were ever going to do a movie it should be about him. His struggle with the Scarrans and his own demons makes for a great story. I don't know if they could work it into a show though without wussing him out.

I'd definatly vote for Natira as a cast member. She's integral to his background. Maybe the show could be about the life of a young(er) Scorpius?

[dzynz]

did Natira die? or not?

That would definatly be an interesting story that was only ever hinted at and never fully made sense.

Natira took scorpius in, funded him, got him the coolant suit and then continued doing business with him. But in the story scorpius tells john's mental clone he just appears wearing a primitive coolant suit, after working for the peacekeepers. Nothing is ever explained about what happened between.

[Jeff O'Connor]

I remember Natira not dying, if memory serves correct. I think her last words were "Fine! Frell you, Crichton!" as she so "heroically" ran like all hell away from the Peacekeepers. I think she'd definitely have a place in a spinoff.

[Ritual]

Actually, it seemed like some people wanted Natira to come back but I don't think Claudia liked the makeup and ect. that she had needed to put on for the role. I don't have exact quotes but my impression was that it was troublesome wearing it, which is why she never resurfaced except for her mention in DK's last Farscape story.

If there ever is a spin-off of Farscape made, then it should star Gigi Edgley as Chiana. :cool:

[witchdoctor]

Originally posted by dzynz
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Natira took scorpius in, funded him, got him the coolant suit and then continued doing business with him. But in the story scorpius tells john's mental clone he just appears wearing a primitive coolant suit, after working for the peacekeepers. Nothing is ever explained about what happened between.

This would be an interesting area to explore, though I would rather not see a Farscape spinoff set in the past. I think the above (Scorpius backstory) would make for an excellent feature film though.

For a spinoff, I would much rather see something take place after the mini-series and resolution of some of the major plot lines. I like the idea of exploring the Nebari contageon and I definitely would like to see more of Scorpius. I think John is heading toward some kind of eventual reconciliation with Scorpius, but don't see Chiana letting go of her distrust and dislike of Scorpius. Therefore I don't think you would believably have Chiana and Scorpius as a team against the Nebari conspiracy. On the other hand, if Scorpius were to decide the Nebari were a serious threat after the Scarrans were dealt with, then he may involve himself despite any objections from Chiana. If he had something on Chiana's brother, for example, he might be able to force some level of cooperation from Chiana. That could be an interesting dynamic: reluctant fueding allies. -Just my 2 cents and speculation on a possible spinoff. :)

[witchdoctor]

Maybe they could do a remake of Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo called Jothee: Male Gigolo. :D

[witchdoctor]

Then again, maybe not.:mad:

[dzynz]

you have to wonder, because the Nebari plotline was improvised from what i can tell. Chiana was never meant to stay, when she did, they decided to create a plot line, but whether that has a serious impact is up to speculation. I love the writers and am constantly amazed by how they set stuff up then tie it together (pathfinder beacon, moya going through the wormhole, einstein grabbing john), but sometimes you gotta wonder if they just set up some plots as extraneous things that one day they might be able to just say, "hey, this could work!"

[FieryHands]

Scorpy & the PKs. That would be an excellent show. Out of everyone, Scorpius has the biggest potential due to his connections and his complex life. It would be hard to watch any of the other cast members without the others. Angel had his two Sunnydale pals so in theory, Scorpius would have Braca and Sikozu, possibly Grayza, and who knows who else. It also would give plenty of opportunity for other races, like say the Nebari or Scarrens to be seen through a big picture lens. It would be like zooming out from a group of individuals to a whole society, which could be a good or bad thing, depending on how you look at it.

[Doc Holiday]

Scorpius and Stark having to work together would be an interesting story arc IMHO.

[Jeff O'Connor]

I just had an idea for a movie like that. Where Stark ends up at the mercy of Scorpius once more - or vice versa - but they end up having to work together. It would be a fascinating idea to explore that, seeing as how they uh... *swallows hard* Wouldn't miss the opportunity to frelling snap each other's heads off. Or rather, that's Stark. Scorpie would just constantly prod at Stark's brain.

[Doc Holiday]

Jeff. I completely agree in the show it could be similar to the relationship between Dr. Smith and the Robinsons in Lost in Space.

[Paul Cousins]

Originally posted by FieryHands
Scorpy & the PKs. That would be an excellent show. Out of everyone, Scorpius has the biggest potential due to his connections and his complex life. It would be hard to watch any of the other cast members without the others. Angel had his two Sunnydale pals so in theory, Scorpius would have Braca and Sikozu, possibly Grayza, and who knows who else. It also would give plenty of opportunity for other races, like say the Nebari or Scarrens to be seen through a big picture lens. It would be like zooming out from a group of individuals to a whole society, which could be a good or bad thing, depending on how you look at it.

Could you imagine what they could do with Braca in a Scorpy spin-off.

Think a sci-fi version of "Wesley Wyndham-Pryce".

[FieryHands]

Originally posted by Paul Cousins
Could you imagine what they could do with Braca in a Scorpy spin-off.

Think a sci-fi version of "Wesley Wyndham-Pryce".

:aok: It only took Farscape writers four years to give him a first name, he's just a character begging to be cracked open and his mind messed with.

[dzynz]

Well yeah, I think at the end of S4 we saw Braca really growing a pair, I don't think he should quite be wesley styled just cause that was a very different story and he was at his coolest when he was walking in the dark gray. Braca on the other hand never started out a good guy... What is his first name?

[Paul Cousins]

Originally posted by FieryHands
:aok: It only took Farscape writers four years to give him a first name, he's just a character begging to be cracked open and his mind messed with.

FieryHands, Dzynz: Braca is the only reoccurring Farscape character who has yet to experience any life altering deep psychological torment and suffering.

I think he is long over due. :D

[Jeff O'Connor]

About Braca...

I've always found him as awesome, in some weird way. I totally agree that it's time for some serious beefing up on his character, which in Farscape "life is real, and it hurts like a -beep-* terms means he'll be shot, slapped, thrown from a cliff and end up missing a ligament. John's played "Break that Braca" a couple of times and won with flying colours, but it's time for everyone's favourite "consummate Peacekeeper" to get some remorse flung into his flawless promotions.

I envisioned personally something to the effect in the miniseries or Season Five where Peacekeeper High Command themselves or someone from them has Braca stand trial in an effort to determine the true nature of Scorpius, and Braca could either crack and reveal things that they'd love to hear, or not crack and get his arse thrust out of the ranks, in which case the idea for Scorpius and Braca to be on their own with their ship's crew and whatnot is really intriguing to me.

I'd love to see Captain Braca's past explored... we all know he was born and raised as a part of them but nevertheless there could be some more interesting finite points, and his seemingly relentless determination to aid a half-breed seems odd considering his resentment for anything non-Sebacean.

He's a really mysterious character... one that's often overlooked in my opinion based on the fact that he isn't too frequent, or, as frequent as I'd want him to be. I really hope he's opened up more in the future.

[Paul Cousins]

Jeff O'Connor, I agree with you on Braca.

For some reason Braca reminds me of Thrawn (Timothy Zann's Star Wars book trilogy) in training to Scropy's 'Vader'.

Also, on your plot idea, don't wait for the mini-series, just write the fanfic yourself. It sounds like a very good solid plot.

[Jeff O'Connor]

That's a very good point Paul. And... three cheers to Thrawn! He ruled!!!

[Paul Cousins]

Originally posted by Jeff O'Connor
That's a very good point Paul. And... three cheers to Thrawn! He ruled!!!

I know, he is my one of my favorite Star Wars characters.

Wouldn't it be ironic if 300 hundred years later (during Farscape Horizons) that Braca was in charge of the Peacekeepers.