Bad Timing ?

[Chi27]

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Watching it again a second time the other night, Aeryn said that she went to see the surgeon because she was concerned about what had been done to her by the Scarrens and that the baby was no longer in stasis. So was she saying that she had the surgeon remove the stasis or the Scarrens did it?

Another observation -- After they had initiated the sustained starburst and everyone was feeling the effects of it with the nausea, Noranti seemed to make a special point of asking Aeryn if her nausea w(which could be baby related or not) is better. I never paid attention to her concern until I noticed what Aeryn said later about the stasis being removed. More to the point, could Aeryn have gone to the surgeon because she was having symptoms that didn't quite make sense to her given that the baby was supposed to be in stasis only to find out otherwise?

[Jeff O'Connor]

I'm probably not answering your question, but let me give it a shot...

The Scarrens, more specifically, that Jenek frellnick, obviously did more harm than good to her on the freighter. That was why when on the Command Carrier she had someone check in on her fetus... I think the surgeon didn't release the stasis - or if they did that the lock could have prevented the baby from perishing due to Jenek? Either way... I think Noranti's care about the nausea with Aeryn was just a sentence-filler; she was feeling the same about John and his effects, as well as Stark and Rygel... and something tells me none of them are going to be pregnant in the mini. Of course Aeryn is pregnant, so undoubtedly she could have worse effects.

Aeryn went to the surgeon, I think, because she was terribly concerned with what Jenek had done to her baby, in stasis or not.

I may well have in no way helped, but I tried. :(

[stlscape]

My $.02 - I think that Aeryn discovered during her captivity just how much she wanted *her* baby (no matter who the father was), and that due to her torture she was worried about her own health (with regard to carrying the baby to term) as well as worried about the baby's health.

I *don't* think the Scarrans released the stasis, due to Jenek's remarks about being able to extract the wormhole knowledge from fetal DNA on Katratzi (as opposed to on the ship), and by the attempt to transfer the fetus to Chiana. (Also, the Sebacean nurse was the one aware of the Peacekeeper stasis effect. From her explanation to Jenek, it doesn't seem to have been common knowledge among Scarrans.) I *do* think Aeryn had the stasis released on the Command Carrier during her "check up", as well as had DNA testing done to affirm that the baby is Crichton's.

Also, the amount of time between her rescue and Moya's arrival at Katratzi doesn't seem to have been very long, so I'm not sure (based on human pregnancy symptoms and not having any knowledge of Sebacean pregnancy symptoms) that she'd have been able to tell in that short length of time whether or not the Scarrans had released the fetus from stasis. Any "different" symptoms she felt could easily be explained away as a result of her torture.

I'm on the fence about Noranti's line - she could be referring to nausea because of extended Starburst, or she could be referring to nausea because of pregnancy-in-statis, or she could be referring to nausea because of pregnancy-no-longer-in-stasis.

[Chi27]

Originally posted by stlscape
My $.02 - I think that Aeryn discovered during her captivity just how much she wanted *her* baby (no matter who the father was), and that due to her torture she was worried about her own health (with regard to carrying the baby to term) as well as worried about the baby's health.



I think you're probably right about her realizing how much she wanted this baby. From the dialogue, though, it sounds like the fetus had been already released -- perhaps due to the torture she had endured had caused it come out of stasis. But she no doubt took the opportunity to see a doctor on the command carrier to find out whether or not the baby was stasis and if it was she had it released.

Aeryn nods, and swallows: "When I was on the Command Carrier, I went to see a surgeon. I was really worried about what the Scarrans did to me. The fetus has been released from its stasis. So, I'm having a baby."
John: "You okay?"
Aeryn shakes her head and nods.
John: "And the baby?"
Aeryn: "It's yours. I just wanted to tell you. Hope it doesn't change anything."
John looks away, his mouth working. He starts to say something and stops.
John: "Umm... well, it changes everything."
Aeryn watches his face.
John stands up in the middle of the boat and throws his arms up in the air. He shouts: "We're gonna have... a baby! Yah! Frell you!" He holds his middle finger up to the sky. "We are gonna have... a baby!"

[rinnicbob]

Aeryn had the surgeon on the Command Carrier release it.

Remember, when Vreena (the nurse in WSS: FA) is describing PK women's pregnancies to Jennek, she says "only a surgeon can release the fetus from it's stasis."

Why would the Scarren's want to release the stasis, anyway? All they were interested in was the fetal DNA, not the fetus as a potential being. They would've taken what they wanted and discarded the rest. Aeryn knew that, hence her desperation.

[Chi27]

Originally posted by rinnicbob
Aeryn had the surgeon on the Command Carrier release it.

Remember, when Vreena (the nurse in WSS: FA) is describing PK women's pregnancies to Jennek, she says "only a surgeon can release the fetus from it's stasis."

Why would the Scarren's want to release the stasis, anyway? All they were interested in was the fetal DNA, not the fetus as a potential being. They would've taken what they wanted and discarded the rest. Aeryn knew that, hence her desperation.

If all they wanted was the baby's DNA, then why attempt to do a fetal transplant from Aeryn to Chiana. If the baby, itself wasn't of any importance, why even attempt that. It seems like they could've taken fetal cells without all the hassle. I haven't seen this episode in awhile so my recollection isn't all that fresh.

[rinnicbob]

OK. Possible spoilers, here.

In WSS: FA, Chiana was the only female of child-bearing age who was immune to dermafollica.
Jennek, the frellnik, wanted the fetus in her because of her immunity, to protect it en route to Katratzi.

They had to wait until they got there to do the fetal DNA harvesting because of the facilites available. So the story goes.....

[Frost]

Originally posted by rinnicbob
Aeryn had the surgeon on the Command Carrier release it.

Remember, when Vreena (the nurse in WSS: FA) is describing PK women's pregnancies to Jennek, she says "only a surgeon can release the fetus from it's stasis."

I don't think so. I think it's to be infered from the line "only a surgeon can release the fetus from it's stasis." that, that is the way it is done under normal conditions. What happened to Aeryn on that freighter was anything but normal. Plunging those four giant, pointed tubes into her torso had to have a negative effect. It was most likely the force that was used by the Scarrans that jarred the fetus, releasing from its stasis accidentally.

Sensing something was up inside her own body Aeryn took advantage of being on the Command Carrier to go see a PK doctor and find out what was going on. When she found out fetus had been released she probably asked the doctor to confirm it's DNA. If it was part human (which obvioulsy it was) then she'd know it was Johns.

The way she told John "The fetus has been released from its stasis. So, I'm having a baby" seemed to be a matter of fact statement and not a matter of choice statement. If she had intentionally done it I believe she would have said something along the lines of, "I had the fetus released from stasis". The way she said it was, it has happend and like it or not, this is the way things are.

[Chi27]

Originally posted by Frost
I don't think so. I think it's to be infered from the line "only a surgeon can release the fetus from it's stasis." that, that is the way it is done under normal conditions. What happened to Aeryn on that freighter was anything but normal. Plunging those four giant, pointed tubes into her torso had to have a negative effect. It was most likely the force that was used by the Scarrans that jarred the fetus, releasing from its stasis accidentally.

Sensing something was up inside her own body Aeryn took advantage of being on the Command Carrier to go see a PK doctor and find out what was going on. When she found out fetus had been released she probably asked the doctor to confirm it's DNA. If it was part human (which obvioulsy it was) then she'd know it was Johns.

The way she told John "The fetus has been released from its stasis. So, I'm having a baby" seemed to be a matter of fact statement and not a matter of choice statement. If she had intentionally done it I believe she would have said something along the lines of, "I had the fetus released from stasis". The way she said it was, it has happend and like it or not, this is the way things are.

That's exactly how I see it. By her saying that it has been released from stasis definitely implies that the surgeon found that the fetus had already been released accidentally. Between the drugs and those prong things, it's seems possible that the fetus had been jarred out of stasis. There's also no telling how much time had gone by between the time she was rescued and when she saw the doctor, but it could've been enough where she was having symptoms not related to her torture which heightened her concern. Only to find out from the doctor that the fetus was out of stasis. So she has the baby's DNA tested and found out it was John's.

[FieryHands]

Initially, I thought Aeryn got it released on the carrier, but upon watching it last Sunday, I'm pretty sure she just checked to be sure the baby was safe and found it had been released (by whatever reason, the Scarrens were somehow responsible) releasing the baby on her own wouldn't have been good for the baby's sake, given their current fugitive lifestyle and the fact her boyfriend was walking around with a bomb strapped to his chest.

[vacantlook]

While I have nothing substantial to add, Noranti's concern over Aeryn in that scene in "Bad Timing" feels to be more than just general concern. To me, it feels as if Noranti has some form of personal concern at that point over how Aeryn is doing. It could be just me though.