TN county wants to outlaw homosexuality

[vacantlook]

TN county wants to outlaw homosexuality (http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?date=2004/03/17/3)

The Tennessee county where a teacher was famously tried in 1925 for teaching evolution in the Scopes "Monkey Trial" is now trying to outlaw homosexuality.

Rhea County Commissioner J.C. Fugate introduced the measure during a commissioners meeting on Tuesday, asking for an amendment to Tennessee's criminal code so homosexuals can be charged with crimes against nature.

The audience applauded the motion, and the Rhea County commissioners approved the request 8-0.

Fugate also asked the county attorney to find the best way to ban homosexuals from living within the county. That measure is scheduled for a vote during next month's commission meeting.

"We need to keep them out of here," Fugate said of homosexuals, telling the Associated Press he was reacting to recent headlines featuring same-sex marriages.

"I think the proposal last night caught everyone off guard," observed Matt Nevels, president of the Chattanooga chapter of Parents, Family and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG). "I would say [Fugate] acted on an impulse, because it was not on the agenda."

"Some of the commissioners are having second thoughts about what they did," Nevels said, predicting some would change their vote. "How are they going to determine who is homosexual? Are they going to go on a witch hunt? Put cameras in every single bedroom? I think they're digging themselves into a big hole. There's no law that will allow them to do that."

Mitchell Katine, a Texas-based lawyer who participated in the Lawrence v. Texas case that banned laws targeting the sexual behavior of gays and lesbians, agreed with Nevels.

"How clear does the Supreme Court need to be?" Katine asked. "It's a waste of time and money to do it because it's clearly unconstitutional."

Reading this really lowered my already low opinion of the state of humanity's social evolution. They're not just seeking to discriminate against gay people, but to flat out criminalize them. I wonder how the eight commissioners and the cheering audience would choose to go about identifying who is gay and who isn't in order to force gay people to not live in the county.

:sighs:

[BlackThorn]

Are they going to go on a witch hunt?

I think that's as accurate of an explanation of this sort of mindset as any I've heard. Sometimes I wonder when some frelnik is going to bring up burning people at the stake again, and I wonder how big the crowd of applauding people will be then. :g2f:

[Scarran Raptor]

gay rednecks, I can see it now

NASCAR: the musical

[NebariNookiee]

Male dogs hump male dogs -- how much more natural do you want?

How about next they outlaw being Jewish -- or how about they outlaw common sense... oh wait -- too late I guess

[stellar]

I refer you to the bottom of NebariNookiee's signature line.

As long as education is allowed to progress, predjudices such as these will die with the current generation. They should rename their governing council to something a little snapier like the Taliban.

[generic_screenname]

NASCAR: the musical

:rollin: :rollin: :rollin:

[Antrobus]

Yea! That ought to do it - stop the "homosexual agenda" dead in its tracks!

...and while they're at it why don't they outlaw idiots!!:whip:

[generic_screenname]

and while they're at it why don't they outlaw idiots!! There wouldn't be anyone left.

[stellar]

"We need to keep them out of here," Fugate said of homosexuals, telling the Associated Press he was reacting to recent headlines featuring same-sex marriages.

No, Mr. Garrison, we can't get rid of all the Mexicans.

[Tokeya]

Originally posted by stellar
As long as education is allowed to progress, predjudices such as these will die with the current generation.

I wouldn't count it.

It may be 2004, but this is the South. Resistance to equality is as thick as a cow's hid and it has bled through generations upon generations. It's been almost 40 years since the civil rights bill was signed and there's still many places in TN where African Americans will dare not trespass. It may be unthinkable, but it's reality.

[stellar]

I'm from the deep south and I can tell you that it's largely stereotypical. The groups of whom you speak exist, but in numbers much smaller than you'd expect. And even those groups of people are looked upon as antiquated and ignorant by the general population.

This isn't Mississippi Burning, or any other movie that depicts us as Deliverance-esque rubes who drink whiskey from clay jugs and roam the countryside looking for black people to hang from moss-ridden oak trees. I'm not saying it was never like that to some degree, but not today and not for a long while.

There are places that black people won't go... the worst thing that will happen is that they'll be looked at in fear; but the amount of actual lynchings has gone down dramatically.

Of course, there are places in Los Angeles where white people wouldn't dare to trespass... and looks of ignorance and fear aren't the worst things that can happen in those places.

[DRD2001]

How would they know if someone "in the closet" was homosexual and what evidence would they use. I just think it is another excuse so that the Rhea County commissioners can watch. :lech:

[Tokeya]

I agree stellar, things have progressed, but this mindset will continue to be passed down through each generation.

I'm from Scaremento, CA, but I currently reside in TN. I'm Native American/African American Air Force brat and I can only tell you what I have experienced first hand. There is a different feeling of acceptance in the West than in the South.

[Darth Buddha]

No, prejudices won't continue to erode. The Fundamental Christian Republican position has ended that. Bigots now have a place to call home, and an executive branch willing to pander to them. Bigotry is in. Separation of Church & State is OUT.

Gays, Guns, Bibles and Bigots make one hell of a platform, don't you think?

The cultural war has begun anew. And I thought for all those years it would be liberals who would lose their minds ... and would start a "civil war" of sorts!

[generic_screenname]

That's inbreeding for ya. I guess that's still legal, as long as the cousin your sleeping with is of the opposite sex.

[ipimen]

Aren't we supposed to be going FORWARD??

For crying out loud!!!!!

[Darth Buddha]

I'm resigned to Bush winning in the fall.. just wait and see how quickly we go backwards after that.

And of course the Patriot act will be able to nix any organization or protest against things... until of course we are under martial law. Heil Bush!

[zap]

Originally posted by Darth Buddha
I'm resigned to Bush winning in the fall.. just wait and see how quickly we go backwards after that.

And of course the Patriot act will be able to nix any organization or protest against things... until of course we are under martial law. Heil Bush!

I have many friends that think we wont HAVE an election this fall, because some "crisis" will "happen" and the shrub will declare martial law so there can be NO ELECTION:mad:

[Antrobus]

I have many friends that think we wont HAVE an election this fall, because some "crisis" will "happen" and the shrub will declare martial law so there can be NO ELECTION

That's a terrifying thought! Nothing the shrub and his cronies do -or might do- surprise me anymore . They do scare me though - BIGTIME!

[DRD2001]

Backpeddle! Backpeddle! Spin, spin spin! :spin:

Decision Reversed.

Tennessee County Reverses Ban on Gays; Attorney Says Intent Was to Back Same-Sex Marriage Ban

By Bill Poovey Associated Press Writer
Published: Mar 19, 2004
DAYTON, Tenn. (AP) - Commissioners in rural, conservative Rhea County never intended to create the "wildfire" of reaction that resulted from banning gay people, the county attorney said after the board reversed its 2-day-old decision.
The original vote was meant to show support for the state's ban on same-sex marriages, county Attorney Gary Fritts said Thursday.

"They wanted to send a message to our (state) representative and senator that Rhea County supports the ban on same-sex marriage. Same-sex marriage is what it was all about," Fritts said. "There has just been so much misunderstanding about this. It was to stop people from coming here and getting married and living in Rhea County."

The board voted 8-0 Thursday to rescind its Tuesday action. The commissioners declined to comment as deputies escorted them to and from the meeting, where they overturned the earlier vote and quickly adjourned.

Fritts said he advised the commissioners that they could not ban homosexuals or make them subject to criminal charges. The U.S. Supreme Court last year struck down laws on homosexual sodomy as a violation of adults' privacy.

Commissioner J.C. Fugate, whose initiated the Tuesday motion, also made the motion to rescind it Thursday. In a discussion about gays and same-sex marriage at the earlier meeting, Fugate had asked the county attorney to find a way to "keep them out of here."

Twelve-year-old Caitlin Kinney and others in a noisy crowd at the courthouse Thursday night were disappointed at the reversal.

The seventh-grader said she doesn't want homosexuals in the community. "It's not a Christian thing," said Kinney, identifying herself as a Baptist.

"I've never seen nothing like this," Fritts said at the historic courthouse where a jury 79 years ago convicted John Scopes for teaching evolution.

During the Thursday meeting, social worker Esther Jackson, 24, held a sign saying, "Breed Love, Not Hate."

"I'm just making a statement that I don't think it's right," Jackson said of the Tuesday vote. "It's just ignorance, is all."

The county about 35 miles north of Chattanooga annually commemorates the 1925 trial at which Scopes, a high school teacher, was convicted of teaching evolution. The verdict was reversed on a technicality, and the trial became the subject of the play and movie "Inherit the Wind."

In 2002, a federal judge struck down the teaching of a Bible class in Rhea County's public schools.

Fritts said he doesn't believe the issue will come up again with the commissioners.

"I think they got all the publicity they need about it," he said.

AP-ES-03-19-04 1022EST
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA1169F0SD.html

[grinner]

Originally posted by Antrobus
That's a terrifying thought! Nothing the shrub and his cronies do -or might do- surprise me anymore . They do scare me though - BIGTIME! almost as much as John F'n Kerry and his 'One World' socialist World vision scares me.

[generic_screenname]

Twelve-year-old Caitlin Kinney and others in a noisy crowd at the courthouse Thursday night were disappointed at the reversal.

The seventh-grader said she doesn't want homosexuals in the community. "It's not a Christian thing," said Kinney, identifying herself as a Baptist.

That so reminds me of posters I saw in history class...

[stellar]

Originally posted by grinner
almost as much as John F'n Kerry and his 'One World' socialist World vision scares me.

I think its pronounce "Forbes". :)

So we have a Socialist running against a Facist running against Ralph Nader.

Watch out Kurt_eh... here we come.

[grinner]

Originally posted by stellar
I think its pronounce "Forbes". :)
. I thought he pronounced it Fucking... cause he seems to like to say it in front of cameras

[stellar]

It's hard not to curse in this economy.

[grinner]

which(the economy) really isn't that bad.

If there was drilling in Anwar, there would be cheaper fuel costs. That is the biggest reason that the Economy appears to be bad.

[stellar]

I thought oil was going to be cheaper once we annexed... I mean once we liberated Iraq.

I guess all those reindeer and snow owls are in for some good ole fashioned shock and awe.

Seriously though, a big reason why oil is more expensive now is because China is dramatically increasing their use of it. They're going through steel like nobody's business too, so steel prices have gone up too. Of course the reason they're using more oil and steel is because US corporations are shipping labor costs over there because they don't have to worry about the environment or human dignity... they build stuff and then export it back to us who happily buy it.

[AnnieBW]

This just in: Homosexuals vote Rhea County, TN, the "least fabulous place in America". The Fab Five are on their way there in a pink chartered airplane to give makeovers to the entire County Board of Supervisors. After which, they'll be interviewed by Ellen Degeneres and Rosie O'Donnell. Flannel shirts from rednecks who no longer need them will be donated to poor lesbians.

:rollin:

[Antrobus]

"There has just been so much misunderstanding about this. It was to stop people from coming here and getting married and living in Rhea County."

No "marriage" and "living" in Rhea County - everbody got that!!

Its not just about homosexuals anymore - its about PEOPLE!!

[mfa96]

Originally posted by grinner
which(the economy) really isn't that bad.

If there was drilling in Anwar, there would be cheaper fuel costs. That is the biggest reason that the Economy appears to be bad.

That's not the biggest reason the economy's bad- not drilling in Alaska. The biggest reason is Bush redistributing the wealth to his rich friends and letting corporations ship jobs overseas, and letting them pay no taxes (corporate welfare). And tell the 3 million people who have lost their jobs the economy isn't that bad.

[grinner]

Originally posted by mfa96
That's not the biggest reason the economy's bad- not drilling in Alaska. The biggest reason is Bush redistributing the wealth to his rich friends and letting corporations ship jobs overseas, and letting them pay no taxes (corporate welfare). And tell the 3 million people who have lost their jobs the economy isn't that bad. uh... outsourcing was started in the 70's and has continued to this day. There were MORE jobs outsourced under CLINTON than under Bush. There were MORE Corporate misdeeds while Clinton was President than under Bush.

[StarsGoBlue]

Or else with Bush it's just covered up better. :dunno:

[Darth Buddha]

I have a buddy who works at the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.. or Bureau of Lies and Statistics.

I'm the only one he can tell just how badly they make statistics "lie" by making categorical cuts in the wrong places, wrongly excluding groups, etc. The only one who can understand it in less than an essay, that is.

So the economic numbers we get are almost never true. Bush has just raised the art by lying even compared to the numbers that are published.

Small change.

[fermicat]

Originally posted by grinner
uh... outsourcing was started in the 70's and has continued to this day. There were MORE jobs outsourced under CLINTON than under Bush. There were MORE Corporate misdeeds while Clinton was President than under Bush.

Since Clinton was president for 8 years and Bush has been in office not even 4, this is not a surprising result, if true. The rate of outsourcing and corporate misdeeds would have had to more than double for this statement not to be true.

[Darth Buddha]

Sorry, grinner, fermicat is right...

Your mouthing lies with statistics. The proper statistic is the rate, not the net.

I've gotten enough of a background to recognize those in the newpaper or on the newscast most of the time... it just infuriates me. The press SHOULD be pointing that stuff out (and yes, I know, there are plenty of democrat sponsored lies as well).

And outsources has not changed so much in rate, but in type and quality of jobs lost. First we lose manufacturing, now we lose proefssional.

Our trade and outsourcing laws are grossly stupid (and again, we have both Bush & Bush and Bill to thank. Why it has to become partisan instead of just saying as a whole THIS IS STUPID, I don't know.

edited to add: I know you are mouthing it only because you wouldn't try to pull a fast one like that on your own... neither would I for that matter.

[DRD2001]

Ummmmm, I thought this thread was about TN.

Seriously, I don't like Bush, but no one here is ready to change their opinions one way or the other. We still have many months to go before elections. So can we just lay off Bush and Kerry for a while and just talk about how stupid local gov't is.

edited for rotten grammer.

[blue]

On her radio show recently, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance

The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura posted on the
Internet. It's funny, as well as informative

*****

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have
learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as
many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle,
for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to
be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of
God's Law and how to follow them.

1. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They
claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus
21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I
tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female,
provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine
claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify?
Why can't I own Canadians?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. The
passage clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to
kill him myself?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I
don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a
defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my
vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around
their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How
should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me
unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different
crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of
two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to
curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the
trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16.
Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do
with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable
expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again
for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your adoring fan,

James M. Kauffman, Ed.D.
Professor Emeritus
University of Virginia

[vacantlook]

OMG, blue, reading that was great. Several of the points in the letter I've known of for a while, but there were some that were knew to me. Either way, the way the various points of the letter were worded was hillarious. And for some reason, I find myself considerably proud that the letter came from someone connected to UVA was great.

:rollin:

[abbadon]

Well done finding that BLUE....
I think I shall keep a copy for the next time I have a theological disscusion with my "born again" work colleague who insists that the teaching's of the bible are to be taken literally...:rollin:

[Antrobus]

just talk about how stupid local gov't is.

Not all local government is stupid, but in most cases those in power at the local level reflect the attitudes of the general population of that area.

Most local governments(at least where I live) put their energy into trying to keep local taxes from spiraling out of control and are concerned with following state guidelines involving road maintenance, transfer station dealings, land and water conservation, schools, etc and don't get into social politics.

They're sometimes inept, but they tend to stay away from social issues. The bigger cities may get into that area, but not the small towns and counties.

I would imagine Rhea County has a lot more pressing matters to address than that of homosexuality!

[grinner]

Originally posted by blue
On her radio show recently, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance
Snopes information on this letter (http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp )

[mfa96]

I received that "letter" as an email a couple of weeks ago- and never thought it was an actual letter- that wasn't what was important. What was important waswas the message it conveyed.

[Frellster]

Such a law would be unconstutional. Besides I can see it now....

Bobby Joe - Ma, Pa. There's some'in I need to tell ya.

Pa - If ya tell us, will we hafta leave town.

Bobby Joe - I rek'in, we would.

Pa - Ma! We're sell'in the farm. Bobby Joes' one o them queers.

Ma - Are you sure, son?

Bobby Joe - Ah yup.

[Otto the Mild]

Originally posted by DRD2001
Ummmmm, I thought this thread was about TN.


Oh, yeah. Let's just ban Tennessee and be done with it. I think we can make a case based solely on country music, don't you? :whip:

I'll start putting up the fence. :fencing: Someone else get busy building the checkpoints. :wall:

[DRD2001]

Originally posted by Otto the Mild
Oh, yeah. Let's just ban Tennessee and be done with it. I think we can make a case based solely on country music, don't you? :whip:

I'll start putting up the fence. :fencing: Someone else get busy building the checkpoints. :wall: You can't ban TN. Selena and Midnight live in that state. Besides, it is a beautiful place with gorgeous mountains. But perhaps we can pick another state instead and relocate all the homophobes there. I nominate Nebraska. Any other nominations?

[grinner]

why Nebraska?

[StarsGoBlue]

Yeah... Antarctica has lots more space. ;)

[DRD2001]

I'm fine with Antartica. I just think more homophobes would be tempted more if they were allowed to stay within the US. If they went to Antartica, they'd pollute the land with 7-11 mini-marts and Target stores. Plus, they wouldn't be able to have green grass yards with picket fences.

[Darth Buddha]

How about death valley?

Perfect place for folks who don't get the gist of "Live and Let Live".... a policy of "Live and Let Die" is sort of justified for them, don't you think?

Originally posted by grinner
Snopes information on this letter (http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp ) As for you, grinner, you are STILL a beautiful human being!

[DRD2001]

Death Valley is in California, and probably a little too close to Los Angeles and San Francisco for their tastes.

[Darth Buddha]

Yeah, but they won't get far on foot...

Actually, I wish that more folks would realize just how many people around them are gay, and the fact that it isn't a "lifestyle choice."

Surely was a "choice" for me. I couldn't be gay if I tried.

I can't see how it would be a choice for anyone else...

[Otto the Mild]

Originally posted by DRD2001
You can't ban TN. Selena and Midnight live in that state. Besides, it is a beautiful place with gorgeous mountains. But perhaps we can pick another state instead and relocate all the homophobes there. I nominate Nebraska. Any other nominations?

Okay. We'll offer asylum for anyone who fears persecution. That should protect Selena and Midnight, as well as anyone who capable of figuring out that the square peg goes in the square hole (thus, the politicians will have to stay put).

[StarsGoBlue]

Originally posted by DRD2001
Death Valley is in California, and probably a little too close to Los Angeles and San Francisco for their tastes.

It is also far too close to me, and others like me who don't want THOSE PEOPLE living anywhere near us.
:ewink:

Antarctica, I say... let them eat snow! :rollin:

[Scarran Raptor]

hey here's an idea, let's give the homophobes and Bible-thumpers to the middle east, that way their insane religious zealots and our insane religious zealots can kill each other off

[Browncoat Serenity]

you would think during the election that people who supported civil rights, some thought things like stem-cell research would have mattered little
and those who supported gay rights may have picked up a few more votes, people at the hrcusa were unhappy on the direction the US is taking. Some have said one person's religious Declarations should not have become issues which influence the nation, the law and the voting process

[AyuRocks]

*cough* no politics.

bumping threads again?

[Browncoat Serenity]

No politics whatsoever...???!!??

I didn't know gay issues were part of politics, thought they were more a civil rights issue.

no posts with politics, I didn't realize standard had become so serious on this forum.

I'll remember not to post on such topics in the future

[StarsGoBlue]

read the sticky thread at the top of the forum, please.

NO. POLITICAL. DISCUSSIONS. ON. THE. BOARD.

if you can't discuss the issue without bringing politics into it, don't discuss it here. thank you.

[Frellster]

Oh, this is frelled.

[BillFrugge]

People have gone insane. Is it something in the water?

[LT Garrix]

Stars! They're back and cracking me up. LOL

[AgentSun]

oh to hell with it. how in the world did a thread from MARCH get dug up for another rehashing that didn't go well or anywhere in the first place??

screw it, let's all drink margaritas and eat pizza.

[pilot_lethina]

Before you post just remember this simple litmis(sp) test

If it involves values/beliefs it is political.

But back to TN, I can speak from personal experience (details I won't go into) that a majority of people still use the "N" word without a single thought.

On the Gay issue they will tell their own gay children they love them, but they are going to burn in Hell.

Does that give you a clue about the state of affairs in TN?

P.L.

[grinner]

:g2f:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/10/prwebxml168585.php

[StarsGoBlue]

oh to hell with it. how in the world did a thread from MARCH get dug up for another rehashing that didn't go well or anywhere in the first place??

screw it, let's all drink margaritas and eat pizza.

:highfive:

[AgentSun]

crap, now i have a craving for pizza. i guess mac and cheese from a box will have to do.

[RydraWong]

Stars, is the ban specifically on dragging party politics into things (which IMHO is pretty reasonable), or is it a ban on discussing any issue that could conceivably be construed as "political"?

The latter would seem pretty sweeping, since it'd effectively be a ban on discussing gay issues, civil rights issues, feminism, discrimination, education, employment, housing, healthcare ... most topics under the sun, in fact.

I'd assume/hope that the latter is not what the mods intend here, especially since it would effectively ban many Scapers from discussing large chunks of their daily lives, but I'd really appreciate some clarification.

[Judith]

Stars...that's WORSE! FIVE of them? Ewwwww...creepy undulation.

[Judith]

screw it, let's all drink margaritas and eat pizza.


Heh. That was my dinner Thursday. :D

[StarsGoBlue]

Stars, is the ban specifically on dragging party politics into things (which IMHO is pretty reasonable), or is it a ban on discussing any issue that could conceivably be construed as "political"?

The latter would seem pretty sweeping, since it'd effectively be a ban on discussing gay issues, civil rights issues, feminism, discrimination, education, employment, housing, healthcare ... most topics under the sun, in fact.

I'd assume/hope that the latter is not what the mods intend here, especially since it would effectively ban many Scapers from discussing large chunks of their daily lives, but I'd really appreciate some clarification.

i suggest you ask wg or red or jul about particulars, but what i think was meant (and what i thought i said, but maybe i didn't, or maybe it was in the governor thread) was that issues can be discussed, as long as they aren't banned or include party politics---including personal opinions regarding the same.

we've been able to talk about hot-button issues here without dragging political party platforms or rhetoric or public figures into the mix before... i don't see why we can't do it still.

for example, grinner posted a link about stem cell research. that was fine, because it wasn't a slam against any particular political affiliation or ideology.

and i wouldn't think there is anything that precludes someone from sharing an opinion, per se, as long as the language isn't inflammatory...and sometimes reminders are posted in a thread because a pattern of behavior is starting that needs to be redirected before it crosses the line. ;)

i'll ask for more clarification when when people come online. :)

[TheBladeRoden]

I do note how much the board has slowed down since politics was rebanned after the election

[grinner]

for example, grinner posted a link about stem cell research. that was fine,
also because I didn't make any comments, one way or another with regards to it. I found the link a couple days ago when I really wanted to argue about Stem Cell Research... but I left it alone for a couple days. When it was again brought up, I just posted the link.

[waltersgirl]

Stars, is the ban specifically on dragging party politics into things (which IMHO is pretty reasonable), or is it a ban on discussing any issue that could conceivably be construed as "political"?

The latter would seem pretty sweeping, since it'd effectively be a ban on discussing gay issues, civil rights issues, feminism, discrimination, education, employment, housing, healthcare ... most topics under the sun, in fact.

I'd assume/hope that the latter is not what the mods intend here, especially since it would effectively ban many Scapers from discussing large chunks of their daily lives, but I'd really appreciate some clarification.


the former, Rydra.

emphasis mine.


I do note how much the board has slowed down since politics was rebanned after the election

this is a board that exists to support and try to ensure the future of Farscape. it's not a board about politics. and politics hasn't been banned. there is a moratorium on the discussion of politics until folks can demonstrate by their posting actions that complex subjects can be discussed in a rational, adult manner. so consider threads like this a testing ground.

and can we not go back months and bump controversial threads just to stir it up please? thanks.

[RydraWong]

the former, Rydra.

Thanks for the clarification! :)

[waltersgirl]

you bet.;)

[AgentSun]

i think TheBladeRoden was referring to the slowness of the OT forums..the board itself has not slowed down much, especially with PKW speculation everywhere. but in the OT's politics has affected it.

[waltersgirl]

i think TheBladeRoden was referring to the slowness of the OT forums..the board itself has not slowed down much, especially with PKW speculation everywhere. but in the OT's politics has affected it.

yes, i know what he was referring to.