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so-much-4-sanity
03-19-2004, 03:29 PM
Ok, I've been rewatching Season 2 recently and one of the things that I love about it is Aeryn's strength and how John hangs onto it. Watching Claudia Black's performance over the course of the Trilogy is such an example of this. She knows her guy is loosing his mind, at this point she's the only one who knows about the chip, and she is strong for him (not in the least because she is a strong person), then we see her become more emotionally concerned about him which motivates her into action come the third ep of the trilogy. I was just curious what other people are thinking regarding the whole Aeryn/John relationship in relation to these eps?
Chi27
03-19-2004, 04:04 PM
I'll get back to you on that a little later. I was planning on re-watching those episodes tonight. :D
rinnicbob
03-23-2004, 11:24 AM
This trilogy is very powerful, and a seminal moment in what is to come for seasons 3 & 4. Her strength, her steadfast determination to save John, and his willing sacrifice are part and parcel of their growing relationship and the changes she's going through.
Ben Browder's performance is virtually matched in scope and intensity by Claudia Black's. Why she wasn't nominated for a Saturn, along with Ben for this season, is beyond me.
So much of Farscape's power is what is unsaid. Just watch Claudia's face at the pivotal moments in this trilogy. John's almost declaration of his feelings for her at the end of part 1, her "negotiating" with the mercenaries and her realization of what John's done to save Jothee in part 2, her "offering herself" to Crais in part 3, all are very emotional and very poignant, with precious little dialogue necessary.
How anyone can not love this show is beyond belief.
Nicola
03-23-2004, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by rinnicbob
This trilogy is very powerful, and a seminal moment in what is to come for seasons 3 & 4. Her strength, her steadfast determination to save John, and his willing sacrifice are part and parcel of their growing relationship and the changes she's going through.
Ben Browder's performance is virtually matched in scope and intensity by Claudia Black's. Why she wasn't nominated for a Saturn, along with Ben for this season, is beyond me.
So much of Farscape's power is what is unsaid. Just watch Claudia's face at the pivotal moments in this trilogy. John's almost declaration of his feelings for her at the end of part 1, her "negotiating" with the mercenaries and her realization of what John's done to save Jothee in part 2, her "offering herself" to Crais in part 3, all are very emotional and very poignant, with precious little dialogue necessary.
How anyone can not love this show is beyond belief.
:signbravo :clap:
Chi27
03-23-2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by rinnicbob
How anyone can not love this show is beyond belief.
You've said it so well in this sentence.
so-much-4-sanity
03-23-2004, 12:22 PM
I saw Liars, Guns and Money triology soon after the Look At The Princess trilogy, these were some of my first Farscape eps and its what hooked me on the show.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rinnicbob
[B]This trilogy is very powerful, and a seminal moment in what is to come for seasons 3 & 4.
Season 3 Spoilers
I'm glad you mentioned this because I've felt this way as well.
After the spilt when TJohn left with Aeryn and MJohn stayed on Moya we see the impact that Aeryn has on him and how he deals with things.
For the most part TJohn stayed "sane" and I think the love that developed between him and Aeryn strengthned him enough to sacrafice himself - "You make me a better person."
However, MJohn's situation was much less healthy. Aside from the obvious reasons for searching for wormholes, I think the obsessive aspect of MJohn's search is him throwing himself into something that helps him recenter. For so long Aeryn has been his center and his strength, as developed in Season 2.
Revenging Angel is powerful because you realize the whole time Aeryn has been away she has not been far from his thoughts, though he hasn't mentioned her since TFS. I think MJohn is still pullting his strength from Aeryn and its not until Fractures that his foundation is shaken.
Ironically, I think the lack of Aeryn in his life, coupled with his message from TMoya, is what causes him to adapt the "suicidal" mission of taking on the Command Carrier. What has he got to loose? This again puts him in hero territory, so I think its ironic that the positive and negative impacts of his relationship with Aeryn motivate him to make intense choices.
Obviously, her leaving him in DWTB sets up John's motivations in Season 4, which was setup by Season 3, which was developed in Season 2. I am amazed by the power the serielism gives the story line and how the writers are able to keep these threads through the seasons.
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