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Kaiwaz
03-29-2004, 08:25 AM
Hey, did anybody else notice that in UR there is a scene where Crichton is onboard a command carrier w/Bracca as his second and Sikozu as a spy? Of course you did...
Anybody else notice that if you replace Crichton with Scorpius that you get EXACTLY where we're left at the end of Bad Timing? The "what happened last time" could VERY WELL mean when Scorpy trusts Sikozu at the end of Bad Timing.
In BT Crichton tells Sikozu she made a bad play backing Scorpy... wouldn't it be ironic if it were SCORPY making the bad play? Plant the big obvious fake clue up front (Scorpius behavior in seasons 1 & 2, plus him at the beginning of 3), and then throw in the subtle clue about the real traitor when nobody is paying attention (Sikozu).
Anybody else think that when Sikozu seems all upset by Scorpy's Scarren side in Twice Shy she's maybe just playing to the way he wants her to react?
Of course, she helped kill lots of Scarrens in "We're So Screwed", but we also saw Scorpy tell the emperor he was a loyal spy of the Scarren imperium... perhaps that was a clue not to Scorpy's motives, but a general "heads up" that things aren't what they seem?
Perhaps Sikozu is a "sleeper" agent... acting in all ways like she is against the Scarrens until her true master orders her to turn. The fact that she's a biloid adds to this even more: her programming may have to be activated.
Nessus
03-31-2004, 07:01 PM
You definitely make a good point. I always felt that Sikuzo came off suspiciously eager and opportunistic when she first met up with Scorpy, like she almost couldn't believe her luck at meeting up with such a high level PK.
Also, since there's this highly organized underground resistance faction within the Kalish, who's to say that their ambition ended with the annihilation of the Scarren race. I mean, if you're gonna wipe out the most powerful race in the universe, why not take out the second and be that much closer to ruling the universe?
I think the Kalish would have played a larger role in season 5, but I'm sure we'll get some answer in the mini.
JrMissToughChick
03-31-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Nessus
. I mean, if you're gonna wipe out the most powerful race in the universe, why not take out the second and be that much closer to ruling the universe?
Then someone should tell them to go after the Nebari ;)
lost in space
03-31-2004, 10:46 PM
With all that said do you think there is a prexsisting relationship between Scorpious and Sikozu. He is quite familiar with her and very much trusting of her.
Kaiwaz
04-07-2004, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by lost in space
With all that said do you think there is a prexsisting relationship between Scorpious and Sikozu. He is quite familiar with her and very much trusting of her.
It's possible... I think they have the typical man woman relationship:
Sikozu sees Scorpy can do something for her (get her past all kinds of PK security)
Scorpy sees something he can do to Sikozu (ahem... you know what I mean).
Scorpy is not the warm, mushy type... but he has been around Crichton & company to realize that their strong affinities for each other make them stronger. To those who think he's a hardline rationalist (which, by the way, he's not): Taking Sikozu as his lover is wise strategically, so it's a luxury he can allow himself.
In other words, I think Scorpy already would know if she was a traitor, but he's not letting her on to the fact that he knows (?) Make sense?
buckwheet the 16th
04-10-2004, 12:56 AM
She could be a spy...
But the way she came on board was very haphazard. She ran into chriton by running away from those "whaler" people. And if she was a spy wouldn't she have helped Axicor (or whatever his name is) in "I shrink.." instead of being taken prisoner? The Real Koreshi would have let her help capture John, because they wouldn't have needed her as a prisoner since there was no ransom for her by the Peacekeepers.
Too much of a conspericey for me to accept. But hey what do I know!? Farscape always suprizes me, so we'll just have to wait and see.
evilnos_unholy
04-15-2004, 09:34 PM
I think scorpius will in fact outsmart sikozu, you can never stop watching this guy, he has a villanous intelect, and is sort of sadistic, I believe sikozu will be the surprised one at the end when scorpius shoots her between the eyes...
labingi
04-17-2004, 01:41 PM
Kaiwaz’s observation that John and Scorpius occupy analogous positions in those UR and BT scenes is intriguing, and it does sound like the sort of thing that might well have some significance in Farscape.
That said, I’m going argue against Sikozu-the-Spy, and I’m going to do so based on character concerns rather than potential plot points (if that makes sense). For the writers to make Sikozu a spy and cast her relationship with Scorpius in the light of an opposition rather than alliance (whether he’s on to her, using her, taken in by her, whatever) would move both characters’ arcs radically backward.
It would essentially destroy Sikozu as a potentially sympathetic character almost entirely. (I know a lot of people don’t find her sympathetic now, but a lot do, and she is played in S4 as more or less a member of the team, the “good guys.”) Making her a “bad guy” does not seem to be the usual Farscape way. The tendency--and it’s a good one--seems to be toward making characters more sympathetic: Crais, Scorpius, even Grayza get progressively complexified, and thus easier to feel for, as the series goes on. The big exception I can think of, Braca’s betrayal, was a fake-out. And if they’re going to do that sort of fake-out, it seems likely that they’ll do it in the direction of people being better than you think (as with Braca), not worse. (At least as far as major, regular characters go.)
As for Scorpius, his relationship with Sikozu--if we read it as genuine--is set up to be one of the huge turning points in his whole life, quite possibly the first time he’s ever had a positive interpersonal relationship with someone that is not almost entirely based on utility (though there is a lot of utility in their relationship). If that’s all a fake-out, and he’s really just waiting for the spy to make her move, all that development is gone. If he’s really taken in by her, it would be just tragic and probably make his character even less open to actual interpersonal interaction. It would push him away from being able to work productively with John (or anyone who considers things like personal loyalty and friendship to be important in forming strong alliances). Serious backward motion.
You all raise some interesting logical points about where we might see evidence that Sikozu is not trustworthy, not what she seems. If those points, in fact, are meant to be there, I can only say I sincerely hope that her deceptions are complexifying, “good guy” deceptions, like her hiding her bioloid nature to protect other Kalish. I would personally be hurt if they just made her “the spy,” and my impression of Farscape is that the writers are more sophisticated than that when it comes to developing their major characters.
jerseygirl
04-18-2004, 09:32 PM
"That said, I’m going argue against Sikozu-the-Spy, and I’m going to do so based on character concerns rather than potential plot points (if that makes sense). For the writers to make Sikozu a spy and cast her relationship with Scorpius in the light of an opposition rather than alliance (whether he’s on to her, using her, taken in by her, whatever) would move both characters’ arcs radically backward."
I gotta go with you there. Also, I have always felt that a recurring theme throughout FS is that of redemption. Virtually every character has had the opportunity to redeem himself or herself in small or large ways, from Chiana to Crais. Even Scorpy has shown tantalizing signs, although we're not aware of his true motives. We've seen that Scorpy finds Sikozu genuinely attractive, while she seems to have the hots for him too. (Hey, remember that only the PK's seem to have that racial-purity thing. Interspecies dating seems to be pretty well accepted.) And as you point out, the tendency is to make characters more complex and sympathetic, not move them the other way.
One delightfully subversive element for me is the Scorpy/Braca relationship. On one of the DVD commentaries, someone (I don't remember who) mentioned that they decided to play that undercurrent of latent eroticism between the two. Just kind of put it out there and leave it. Going with that, it could easily seem that Braca is jealous of Sikozu. And who know where that could lead...
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