Ghost Town

[grinner]

Ghost Town (http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/) or a Sunday drive thru Chernobyl.

[scrape_medic]

grinner that was fascinating...where do you find these articles?

its also very scarey, and she tells the event so well.

[grinner]

That one was on a Rally forum that I am a member of.

[who45]

I remember seeing a documentary about babies that have been born since the Chernobyl disaster, it was heart wrenching to see all the birth defects that they suffer from.

[BrowderChick]

All I can say is OMG..... I was reduced to tears reading this.

Thank You grinner for this article....

[grinner]

heavy isn't it? Oh the follies of man. :g2f:

[BrowderChick]

It scared me......

I live very close to a GE Turbine Plant here and I grew up right in the same town with a GE Plastics Plant. I think back now, what if that plant ever blew up? I dont know the chemicals in there...

[who45]

Originally posted by grinner
heavy isn't it? Oh the follies of man. :g2f: Yep you can say that again.

[DentArthurDent]

too bad she doesn't leave an email address. One wonders what demons she contiues to fight that send her to this place...and how it would be if more people would read the story...

[BrowderChick]

I can imagine what kind of health issues she will have later in life.

[DRD2001]

I read an excellent book about Chernobyl. It discussed what factors politically and scientifically led up to the disaster. Then it took you through the disaster and its aftermath minute by minute. It reported as factually as possible the stories of individuals effected and whether they lived or died. In some cases, they took you through the pain and suffering that they faced until they died. It tried to express to you how the people living near the plant felt and what they were thinking, so you could understand the climate. It was a very good book, not accusatory or finger pointing, but as matter of fact as possible.

[grinner]

It amazes me that the Firefighters that were the first responders weren't told what happened... and that they died within minutes of arrival.

[BrowderChick]

I saw that and the pictures told a thousand stories. Where are all these people buried? If they were there on the scene and died form this, whould it have been wise to bury them elsewhere?

[DRD2001]

Many people had no idea. Many people did heroic things to help save others, only to die later under agonizing conditions. Hospitals were overwhealmed and not prepared for anything even remote to what happened. That plus the general hygene and sanitary conditions people lived in didn't help either. One woman dropped a make shift sanitary product on the floor at the plant, brushed off the dust, not realizing it was radioactive, and used the product. She suffered radiation burns.

I wish I could remember the name of that book.

[grinner]

No, she said that they were buried at the premises. Probably in the cemetary.

[BlackThorn]

Me too, sounds like a good read.

I'd imagine, with that many deaths, the officials trying to cover and handle, and the problem of contamination, that most were cremated.

[grinner]

Originally posted by DRD2001


I wish I could remember the name of that book. this book? (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0393308146/102-5296590-2388932?v=glance)

[grinner]

Originally posted by DRD2001


I wish I could remember the name of that book. or one of these? (http://www.fetchbook.info/Chernobyl_Legacy.html)

[BrowderChick]

OK. I just thought that there were so many of them that died there. I also cant believe that people are living there as well....

[BrowderChick]

I would like to read that book too....

[grinner]

you should read Chernobyl, by Frederik Pohl. A very good speculative fiction take on the accident.

[who45]

writing that one down.

[grinner]

Originally posted by who45
writing that one down. I have that book. It is very interesting.

[who45]

Will have to try and find it next time I go to the book store.

[BrowderChick]

So what is the list of good books for this. I want something that is not like a text book but I also want pics and true faqs as well....

[grinner]

Originally posted by BrowderChick
So what is the list of good books for this. I want something that is not like a text book but I also want pics and true faqs as well.... check out the links that I provided.

[AgentSun]

wow. absolutely haunting. and this woman is brave enough to do something like it...but on another level, it's a way of remembering the past. people are so quick to forget this incident because it's in a history book and a lot of people died and we don't know all their names. but russia will never forget it and we shouldn't either. it effects all of us because we know about it. and it's sad that people are so quick to forget the people that died there and forget the wasteland it became...because they have never seen pictures or experienced it, because no one dared to go back there. she is so brave in going back and remembering these people and their lives. what struck me a lot was the comment about the laundry still hanging outside. that has been there for over 10 years...it's like time froze on that day and it's a peek into the past...it's better than any scientist 200 years from how can recreate.

and on page 21...the picture of the carving on the wall. that was so haunting...no one knows where these people went or what happened to them. most likely they died. but no one knows and it's so haunting to feel the past right where it was...in the blink of an eye, a whole area was wiped out...that first picture, of the carving on the wall that a couple made, that was tragic.

[BrowderChick]

Will do. Thanks for the book list. I will be checking them out this weekend.

[vikingscaper]

Looking at that was astounding. I didn't read everything because I am working on a paper right now but I did look at the pictures. It just looked very haunting to me and I think that I would be freaked out if I were ever to go there due to the silence.

[AgentSun]

reading that account, i decided to research a little bit about the children of chernobyl...poor kids, none of them even knew what was going on. and their poor parents didn't know how sick they were until they gave birth to deformed children and in that region, having a deformed child was looked down upon. so orphanages and hospitals were full of children that were left there by their parents, though most of them there now are orphans who are healthy but were left because the mother had no money.

i saw a picture of a deformed fetus...it scared the hell out of me. it was just twisted into a grotesque form and i had to immediately scroll away.

and then i saw a picture of a blind baby boy...tragic and incredibly scary. and there was also a picture of a really pale bald boy who was unsusually skinny...i figured it was cancer because cancer rates were really high for kids after chernobyl.

[DRD2001]

Thanks for the list grinner, but none of those books seemed familiar to me. I've got to clean house this weekend, so I'll keep an eye out for it and post it here or do more searching on Amazon to find it later.

[abbadon]

Fasinating read and some hauntingly amazing pictures....Thanks for sharing this grinner....

[DRD2001]

I think the book was called,
Ablaze: The Story of the Heroes and Victims of Chernobyl by Piers Paul Read.

[BrowderChick]

Adding to my list to check out at the book store. Thanks.....:D

[grinner]

18 years ago on this date... the Chernobyl Nuclear Plant exploded.

[AgentSun]

btw, the whole site is updated with new pictures from 2004.

[BrowderChick]

Thanks for the heads up.

[grinner]

there is now a paypal donation button for bandwidth costs

[DentArthurDent]

that is cool, I was going to write Elena snail mail to encourage her to figure out a way to do that... seems like maybe this is taking off... hmmm, imagine if they had some sort of guestbook, or a BB where people could in some way discuss... mmm, no maybe not. There'd prolly be too much political crap. I guess paypal and word of mouth are the best. How do we find out if paypal is legit? 'Cuz that'd suck MAJORLY if this turned into a scam...

AFD

[grinner]

That is a good question. I donated $5... but you have a good point.

[BrowderChick]

Does anyone know of any other sites on this subject like this one?

[Kathleen]

I've seen this site before. I looked all the way through it a couple of months ago. It's fascinating and tragic. I was amazed by some of the facts that I read, and how well she managed the English language. I plan on bookmarking this site. It may seem twisted to some people, but I find doing that helps keep the memory alive of those that sacrificed everything.

[AgentSun]

i have this site bookmarked too. it's an amazing journey and it's not something that can be readily forgotten or passed over.

[BrowderChick]

I just got done watching a program on the children of Chernobyl. This was filmed in the hospitals and homes where the children were abandoned. I cant quite describe what I was watching. There are no words for it. It has left me in tears and hearache for these babies. By saying babies Im saying that even the 13 yearolds are no more than infants. One little girl aged 4 has he brain growing on the outside of her head. I wish there was more that can be done. These families should be moved out of the region of contamination. They are not receiving any form of benefits that would even allow them to do so. This was so heart wrenching. I should not have watched it but I couldnt stop. The ending had American doctors performing surgeries for free to special patients that were able to receive these operations. Most couldnt get them because their conditions were inoperable. That part there made me feel alot better that there are programs out ther to help these children to survive. But some of these homes are not receiving enough funding to offer the care they need. I also learned that even today, birth defects from this radiation are getting worse as genetics are passed down. I dont know what the name of the show is but I will remember it always.

[scrape_medic]

Mods feel free to delete this post if you think it is too horrendous, but with all the talk over here about reintroducing Nuclear Power as the "only way to meet the demands for electricity" as opposed to poluting the atmosphere with "Harmful Emissions" and causing a greenhouse effect, or global warming or whatever (personally I think a better term is global climate instability)......I thought it may be a good time to remind ourselves why we were against it in the first place and why maybe we should just turn off a few lights and insulate our houses better......

do not click if you are sqeamish - picture of child affected by nuclear mutations (http://www.chernobylchildlifeline.org/sasha.jpg)

[BrowderChick]

Ive seen that and worse today watching that program. :cry2: