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Harveylives
04-07-2004, 06:01 PM
Size does matter
Prominent penis gives cold-dwelling mammals an edge.
5 April 2004
MICHAEL HOPKIN


A lonely life in the cold means males make the most of sexual encounters.
© Digital Vision



A study of animals across the world has confirmed what many men have long suspected - a large penis can be a recipe for success in the mating game.

The value of an impressive organ depends on the terrain, however. Animals at high latitudes tend to benefit more from being better endowed than species in more hospitable climes, according to Steven Ferguson of the Freshwater Institute in Winnipeg, Canada, and Serge Larivière from the Delta Waterfowl Foundation in Portage La Prairie, Canada.

The researchers compiled data on the size of the penis bone, called the baculum, in 122 carnivorous mammal species that have this feature, collected from around the world. They then looked to see whether the bone's size correlates with factors such as the temperature that the animal lives at, or the latitude of its home.

Those living at polar latitudes have a longer baculum relative to their body size than their tropical counterparts, the authors report in the journal Oikos1. This is probably thanks to the differing mating strategies that come into play in different climates, the researchers say.

Bone of contention

Animals such as elephant seals (Mirounga), for example, which live at more pleasant, lower latitudes, tend to live in large colonies. Males fight against each other for access to females, with the winners collecting a harem. This kind of mating behaviour can cause selection for such things as large body size, which helps the males to win physical fights. These seals can weigh up to 2,300 kilograms, but have relatively small baculums compared with similarly sized animals.

Walruses (Odobenus), however, which live in the frozen Arctic, weigh less, at up to 1,700 kilograms, but have a baculum that can reach up to 60 centimetres in length - one of the largest members of any mammal in both absolute and relative terms.

The hostile Arctic landscape supports few individuals, so walruses tend not to come into contact with each other very frequently. This means that sexual encounters are few and far between, and males don't fight directly with each other for mates as often.

So males with a greater chance of inseminating their sexual partners might win the evolutionary race, says Ferguson. In this case, he thinks that means a larger sexual organ.

Longer penis bones may ensure that the male's sperm is inserted closer to the egg, says Ferguson. So a well-hung male is more likely to succeed in becoming a father. "What counts is which sperm get into the female's egg," says Matthew Gage of the University of East Anglia, UK, an expert on sexual competition.

Other researchers have in the past proposed alternative explanations for the difference in baculum size between the two animals. Some say that a shorter penis might reduce the risk of bacular fracture, for example. Elephant seals mate on land, whereas walruses mate in the water. The land-romping creatures might be more at risk of broken bones, leading to smaller members.

But fracture can happen in the water too, says Ferguson. He thinks that differences in behaviour due to latitude is a more likely explanation for the size difference.


References
Ferguson, S. H. & Larivière, S. Oikos, 105, 255 - 267, (2004).


© Nature News Service / Macmillan Magazines Ltd 2004

Kurt_eh
04-07-2004, 06:10 PM
Allow me to introduce myself. I'm fron CANADA! :D ;) :lol

B Sharp
04-07-2004, 06:14 PM
Kurt, isn't Calgary south of most of Minnesota, New York....?

just askin'... ;)

scrape_medic
04-07-2004, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Kurt_eh
Allow me to introduce myself. I'm fron CANADA! :D ;) :lol may I refer the above poster to the bragging thread
:lol

who45
04-07-2004, 06:17 PM
And so it begins:lol

stellar
04-07-2004, 07:13 PM
I am from the deep south.

Hey!!! :(

Mrelia
04-07-2004, 07:19 PM
Useless trivia time!

Baculum is the Latin word for "stick".

And I thought the similarity to Scott Bakula's name was humerous before...

vikingscaper
04-07-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by B Sharp
isn't Calgary south of most of Minnesota, New York....?

Calgary is completey north of Minnesota and New York.

Scarran Raptor
04-07-2004, 08:05 PM
I may be from Miami....but I got Boston and NY blood...and my ancestors came from Russia....and that's COLD

Kurt_eh
04-07-2004, 09:29 PM
The only state north of calgary is Alaska ;)

Statistical Information about Calgary
Population: 904,987 (2002 Civic Census)
Latitude/Longitude: 51.7 Deg N / 114.13 Deg W
Elevation: 1140 meters / 3740 feet

Way farther north of the 49th...

Kurt_eh
04-07-2004, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by scrape_medic
may I refer the above poster to the bragging thread
:lol

:innocent: :lech:

trubador
04-07-2004, 10:30 PM
Isn't there something about the size of a person's nose in relation to the size of their... :innocent: ?

Kurt_eh
04-07-2004, 11:03 PM
As I mentioned before, :lech:

Nicola
04-07-2004, 11:15 PM
Well Kurt, my husband Ken would like to point out that Red Deer is even further north than Calgary.

I'm just sayin..... :innocent:

Kurt_eh
04-07-2004, 11:18 PM
But I grew up in Edmonton, which is farther north than Red Deer ;)

Frellster
04-08-2004, 01:55 AM
OK, um - hate to break the news to you, but though seals and walruses have baculum (or oosneks as the eskimos call them) - humans don't. No penis bones! Havn't ya'll noticed there's no frell'in bone in there. Blood, erectile tissues sure, but no bone. Now, unless your name is D'argo you can't brag about this particular anatomical feature.

abbadon
04-08-2004, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Harveylives
Bone of contention




Hey I got one of those too...:spin:

stellar
04-08-2004, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by Frellster
OK, um - hate to break the news to you, but though seals and walruses have baculum (or oosneks as the eskimos call them) - humans don't. No penis bones! Havn't ya'll noticed there's no frell'in bone in there. Blood, erectile tissues sure, but no bone. Now, unless your name is D'argo you can't brag about this particular anatomical feature.

Party pooper.

Kurt_eh
04-08-2004, 09:05 AM
There was an old ep of Letterman where he had a marine biologist.

IIRC, she had a walking stick that was somewhat unusual, and Dave asked to see it. She handed it to him, and he examined it closly, asking specifically what kind of walking stick it was.

When she told him it was a baculum, the damn thing flew nearly half-way across the studio! :rollin:

NebariNookiee
04-08-2004, 09:15 AM
They call me Cuban Pete
I got ten pounds of hangin' meat
And the girls sing "Boom boom chicky boom!"

They call me Cuban Pete
Mine lays half way cross the street
And the girls sing "Boom boom chicky boom!"

Hey there Senorita
Would you like a big burrito?
It’s so very nice – so full of spice

Enjoy my big banana
Down at the cabana
I’m as hard as metal
Just ask Fred and Ethel
:bluenana:

stellar
04-08-2004, 09:22 AM
Are those the correct lyrics to that song?

NebariNookiee
04-08-2004, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by stellar
Are those the correct lyrics to that song?
Does it matter? :lech:

stellar
04-08-2004, 10:13 AM
To the copyright holder it does.

I-am-so-Johns-girl
04-08-2004, 11:35 AM
I'm not touching any of this with any kind of pole.:roflmao:

NebariNookiee
04-08-2004, 11:38 AM
Pole??? :lech:

trubador
04-08-2004, 11:40 AM
Wrong thread. :innocent: