The end of the World as we know it???

[grinner]

If you read this (http://www.bushcountry.org/news/may_news_pages/g_051604_assiebloke_end_world.htm) thread and this (http://www.bushcountry.org/news/jun_news_pages/g_060104_withheld_june_2004.htm) thread there is some thought that the world will be hit by a comet... and that the news is being withheld. If this is true... been nice knowing you all...

[Jeff O'Connor]

Well this sucks -- I live in Florida.

[stellar]

So... I don't get to see the mini?

Well that just sucks.

[mfa96]

Since thye are talking about the anti-christ, maybe just the Christians will get killed?

[grinner]

Urgent Weekend Report:

Is "Snowball" a Coincidence?

Executive Summary:

A supposed intercept of a U.S. military SSB radio transmission on 26 January of this year referred to a mysterious "countdown" to an unnamed event which (by the countdown) will occur around June 19 or 20 of this year. In the past few weeks, however, naval units worldwide have been putting to sea in unusual numbers, sufficient to cause us to revisit the original message to assess movements and adopt a watch mode going forward into the June 19-20 date area.

Details:



I was not planning on doing a special weekend report but four things happened that prompt me to share some speculation with you. The four items?

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Historical: I happened to think about the piece on "Snowball Net" which, if you might recall, was a supposed intercepted radio communication between U.S. military units that I posted on this site in March. Click here for the original link and scroll down to "For the Truly Paranoid..." http://www.urbansurvival.com/nl03262004.htm Here's what it said:



"Want to be paranoid about something akin to Planet X showing up before November? Here's a snip which I received by email yesterday - a bit aged, but interesting nevertheless:

A member of our ham radio club intercepted this transmission and shared it with a few of us. He made a digital recording of it. The transmissions took place on 1-26-04 staring at 0:5:00 UTC. The frequency was 11.176 mhz, USB.

The conversation is between SNOWBALL NET and another station. We assume SNOWBALL is the network operator.

Here is a transcript:

SNOWBALL NET: Snowball Net comms check. All stations, clock sync, (pause) impact at minus 146 days, 5 hours UTC. Standby for ACC link (could have been ACD).

Burst of digital data¦

Burrow: SNOWBALL This is BURROW (could be Burro as in donkey). You are not secure¦ repeat not secure ¦ go green ¦ go green ¦

Bursts of white noise follow for approximately 3 minutes.

Copies of this have been posted on several ham boards and have been sent to Popular Communications Magazine.

OK, so that by itself is curious, although the author may have been hoaxing (or breaking provisions of the Communications Act of 1933 rules about unauthorized disclosure of third-party traffic, but we'll assuming hoaxing, right? But now add a second data point to this, the odd story of British military cavers being trapped in Mexico reported at http://news.lycos.com/news/forms/printstory.asp?section=Science&storyId=840084


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Note: This link was valid at the time posted, but has been purged from Lycos!



This British military in Mexico caves story has us wondering what the military guys are doing in caves? And who packs in that much provisions that 5-days under is no big deal? And what are those "military notebooks" they are shredding? Say what?



If one was truly paranoid, they would look at the combination of the two events and synthesize that "Hey, something is causing governments all over the world to act like they know something very bad is about to happen to the whole planet and they are looking for caves (or building underground bases) to be ready to survive whatever it is that is coming (in June).



Easy enough to write off as a wild "mind game" until we recall how close the rock Toutatis will be in September (remember that Earth is within the margin of error on Toutatis orbital projections) and then there's this one:
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/japan-muses-c-04b.html Unknown, of course, is whether there is something else "out there" which has been captured by a government "blink lab" - we'd probably never hear about it if there was.



You don't know what a blink lab is? That's where NASA and other organizations take a picture of space, then take another picture of the same point in space a bit later. Whatever has moved (like a rogue planet or asteroid) can be readily seen by "blinking" between the two pictures...



No, we're not that paranoid about it, but we have been monitoring the Air Force 11.175 MHz USB frequency and wonder who the Burrow is...and no, it's not Barrow (as in Alaska)."

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Major Web Traffic Anomaly: The note from my colleague Cliff at www.halfpasthuman.com says it all:


"Link quote, "JUST WHY IS IT THAT Nearly our Entire Naval Fleet, have unprecedented orders to leave for the Oceans?

AND, they aren't alone. At least parts of Iran, Australia, China, France, India, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Vietnam are going too. Makes me want to find out where the British Navy is holing up these days. And what of the Russians? hmmm.... Does anyone ever stay home and protect their own borders anymore? Isn't that what they are supposed to be doing? Something is very, very fishy here!"

It turns out the Brits are putting to sea, too. More on that in a few moments....


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Contemporary Events: The pattern of navies putting to sea actually became evident in earlier this week when I casually mentioned that a naval force of most ships and more than 6,000 sailors was putting to sea from San Diego. I remember thinking at the time of coverage (last Monday, May 24,2004) "My how strange, to put 6,000 people to sea for what was reported as "training maneuvers" or action in the Gulf War, given how expensive fuel is and how much such things cost...not to mention how thin reserves are stretched."

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Personal: It was decided on Friday that because the business acquisition I am working on is at a 3-4 week hold while final details are ironed out, I've been given the "green light" to head back for Texas till sometime between July 1 and August 1. At that time I will presumably come back to L.A. and work on a permanent rather than week to week consulting basis. Why is this significant? Because usually, when the Universe wants to take care of me in some way I'm not bright enough to figure out for myself, odd doors open up...and this door gives Elaine & I a chance to finish off numerous projects at the ranch in the East Texas hills.

What Pieces Would Fit?



If it happened - out of some bizarre circumstance that there was indeed something "real" about the supposed radio interception - then what would we look for prior to an event such as an impact from something falling out of space? Here's my list, which you can compare with your own ideas about how you would prepare for such an event:

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I'd move as many ships out of port, with as many of America's finest on them, as I could. It's a know fact that a tsunami at sea is much easier to deal with than a tsunami that is running up against a relatively shallow area, which might include the outer continental shelf if the impact were large enough, or it might be big enough to literally empty the big bays of either coast (Puget Sound, San Francisco, San Diego) before running back in with a killer wave hundreds of feet high which would ruin urban areas. From the NOAA web site, here is a short introduction to the field, which I'm posting here because the student of tsunamis is well documented while the oceanic impact of boloid/meteor impacts is not:

* Source: http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/hazard/tsuintro.shtml
Database: http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/seg/hazard/tsrnsrch_idb.shtml

Tsunamis, commonly called seismic sea waves--or incorrectly, tidal waves--have been responsible for at least 470 fatalities and several hundred million dollars in property damage in the United States and its territories. These events are somewhat rare. Major tsunamis occur in the Pacific Ocean region only about once per decade. Therefore, it is important to learn as much as possible from the relatively short history available.

The preparation of this history was undertaken because of the evident need for an up-to-date and comprehensive compilation. The previously available history of tsunamis in the United States and environs was scattered through several regional catalogs, research papers, and unpublished works. The continued research of several people has improved these now-dated catalogs. The present history incorporated all works known to the compilers into a single, comprehensive volume.

"Tsunami" is a Japanese word meaning "harbor wave." It is a water wave or a series of waves generated by an impulsive vertical displacement of the surface of the ocean or other body of water. Other terms for "tsunami" found in the literature include: seismic sea wave, Flutwellen, vloedgolven, raz de mare, vagues sismique, maremoto, and, incorrectly, tidal wave. The term "tidal wave" is frequently used in the older literature and in popular accounts, but is now considered incorrect. Tides are produced by the gravitational attraction of the sun and moon and occur predictably with twelve hour periods. The effects of a tsunami may be increased or decreased depending on the level of the tide, but otherwise the two phenomena are independent.

Although there are warning systems for tsunamis occurring around the Pacific, including local and regional warning systems in Hawaii and Alaska, the risks from future tsunamis are still not fully known. Some events, such as that in Prince William Sound, Alaska, in March 1964, can be devastating over large distances. Even over short distances along a coast, the heights of a tsunami wave will vary considerably. An important part of the risk assessment is to gain a clearer understanding of the effects of past tsunamis.

Worldwide Occurrence of Tsunamis Tsunamis have been reported since ancient times. They have been documented extensively, especially in Japan and the Mediterranean areas. The first recorded tsunami occurred off the coast of Syria in 2000 B.C. Since 1900 (the beginning of instrumentally located earthquakes), most tsunamis have been generated in Japan, Peru, Chile, New Guinea and the Solomon Islands. However, the only regions that have generated remote-source tsunamis affecting the entire Pacific Basin are the Kamchatka Peninsula, the Aleutian Islands, the Gulf of Alaska, and the coast of South America. Hawaii, because of its location in the center of the Pacific Basin, has experienced tsunamis generated in all parts of the Pacific.

The Mediterranean and Caribbean Seas both have small subduction zones, and have histories of locally destructive tsunamis. Only a few tsunamis have been generated in the Atlantic and Indian Oceans. In the Atlantic Ocean, there are no subduction zones at the edges of plate boundaries to spawn such waves except small subduction zones under the Caribbean and Scotia arcs. In the Indian Ocean, however, the Indo-Australian plate is being subducted beneath the Eurasian plate at its east margin. Therefore, most tsunamis generated in this area are propagated toward the southwest shores of Java and Sumatra, rather than into the Indian Ocean.

Tsunami Characteristics Most tsunamis are caused by a rapid vertical movement along a break in the Earth's crust (i.e., their origin is tectonic). A tsunami is generated when a large mass of earth on the bottom of the ocean drops or rises, thereby displacing the column of water directly above it. This type of displacement commonly occurs in large subduction zones, where the collision of two tectonic plates causes the oceanic plate to dip beneath the continental plate to form deep ocean trenches. Most

Subduction occurs along most of the island arcs and coastal areas of the Pacific, the notable exception being the west coast of the United States and Canada. Movement along the faults there is largely strike-slip, having little vertical displacement, and the movement produces few local tsunamis.

Volcanoes have generated significant tsunamis with death tolls as large as 30,000 people from a single event. Roughly one fourth of the deaths occurring during volcanic eruptions where tsunamis were generated, were the result of the tsunami rather than the volcano. A tsunami is an effective transmitter of energy to areas outside the reach of the volcanic eruption itself. The most efficient methods of tsunami generation by volcanoes include disruption of a body of water by the collapse of all or part of the volcanic edifice, subsidence, an accompanying or preceding the eruption. Roughly one-half of all volcanic tsunamis are generated at calderas or at cones within calderas. Submarine eruptions may also cause minor tsunamis.

Locally destructive tsunamis may be generated by subaerial and submarine landslides into bays or lakes. Lituya Bay, Alaska, has been the site of several landslide-generated tsunamis, including one in 1958 that produced a splash wave that removed trees to a height of 525 m. It also caused a tsunami of at least 50 m in the bay. The 1964 Prince William Sound earthquake triggered at least four submarine landslides, which accounted for 71 to 82 of the 106 fatalities in Alaska for the 1964 event. However, it is tectonic earthquake-generated tsunamis (those produced by a major deformation of Earth's crust) that may affect the entire Pacific Basin.

Other possible but less efficient methods of tsunami generation include: strong oscillations of the bottom of the ocean, or transmission of energy to a column of water from a seismic impulse (e.g., a deep-focus earthquake that has no surface rupture); transmission of energy from a horizontal seismic impulse to the water column through a vertical or inclined wall such as a bathymetric ridge; strong turbidity currents; underwater and above-water explosions. Several mechanisms commonly are involved in the generation of a tsunami (e.g., vertical movement of the crust by a seismic impulse or an earthquake, and a submarine landslide).

Our knowledge of tsunami generation is incomplete, because the generation phenomena has not been observed nor measured directly. However, studies of tsunami data suggest that the size of a tsunami is directly related to: the shape of the rupture zone, the rate of displacement and sense of motion of the ocean-floor in the source (epicentral) area, the amount of displacement of the rupture zone, and the depth of the water in the source area.

It is also observed that long-period tsunamis are generated by large-magnitude earthquakes associated with seafloor deformation of the continental shelf; while, shorter period tsunamis are generated by smaller magnitude earthquakes associated with seafloor deformation in deeper water beyond the continental shelf.

Once the energy from an undersea disturbance has been transmitted to the column of water, the wave can propagate outward from the source at a speed of more than 1,000 km per hour depending on the depth of the water. Because the height of the long-period waves in the open ocean is commonly 1 m or less and their wavelength is hundreds of kilometers, they pass unnoticed by observers in ships or planes in the velocity of its waves is reduced, and the height of each wave increases. The waves pile up on shore especially in the region of the earthquake source, producing a "local tsunami." Some dramatic examples of such local tsunamis include those generated by landslides or by volcanic eruptions, which have caused "runup" heights of 30 to 50 m in some coastal areas.

"Runup" is the maximum height of the water observed above a reference sea level. Two other terms may be determined from the runup value: (1) tsunami magnitude, which is defined (Iida and others, 1967) as

m = log2H and (2) tsunami intensity, which is defined (Soloviev and Go, 1974) as

I = log2(21/2 * H), where H in both equations is the maximum runup height of the wave.

If the energy produced by the generating disturbance is sufficiently large, such as that released by a major deformation of the crust in a trench area, the resulting tsunami wave may cross the open ocean and emerge as a destructive wave many thousands of kilometers from its source. The severity of a tsunami of this type--called a "remote-observed and perhaps cause damage throughout the Pacific Ocean Basin (e.g., the Chile tsunami of May 1960).

Radiation of a remote-source tsunami from the focus of an earthquake is directional, depending on the geometry of the seafloor in the source region. The source region for major tectonic earthquakes is usually elliptical, and the major axis is as much as 600 km long and corresponds to the activated part of the fault. The major part of the tsunami energy is transmitted at right angles to the direction of the major axis, both toward the near shore and along a great circle path toward the shore on the opposite side of the ocean. Thus, tsunamis in Chile have severe impact on Japan; and those in the Gulf of Alaska on the west coast of North America. Hawaii, which lies in the central Pacific Basin, is vulnerable to remote-source tsunamis generated both in the North Pacific and along the coast of South America.

The velocity (V) of a tsunami in the open ocean is expressed as the product of the square root of the depth of the water (d) and the acceleration of the force of gravity (g).

V = (dg)1/2 Because the speed of the tsunami depends on the depth of the ocean basin, the waves decrease in speed as they reach shallower water. The wavelength is shortened, the energy within each wave is crowded into progressively less water, increasing the height of the wave. The tsunami may increase in height from 1 m in the open ocean to more than 20 m during runup. Also, if underwater ridges are present, they may act as collecting lenses and further intensify the tsunami.

If the tsunami encounters a coastal scarp, the height of its waves increases. Because the long-period wave can bend around obstacles, the tsunami can enter bays and gulfs having the most intricate shapes. Experience has shown that wave heights increase in bays that narrow from the entrance to the head, but decrease in bays that have narrow entrances. Shores of islands protected by coral reefs commonly receive less energy than unprotected coastlines lying in the direct path of an approaching tsunami. Islands in a group may "shadow" one another reducing the tsunami effect. Small islands may experience reduced runup as the tsunami waves may refract around them.

A tsunami wave may break on the beach, appear as flooding, or form a "bore"(violent rush of water with an abrupt front) as it moves up a river or stream. When the trough of the wave arrives first, the water level drops rapidly. Where this occurs the harbor or offshore area may be drained of its water, exposing sea life and ocean bottom. This phenomenon may be the only warning to residents that a large tsunami is approaching. Fatalities have occurred where people have tried to take advantage of this situation to gather fish or explore the strange landscape. The wave returns to cover the exposed coastline faster than the people can run. Although there may be an interval of minutes--or perhaps an hour--between the arrival of waves, the second, third, or later waves can be more destructive than the first. Residents returning too soon to the waterfront, assuming that the worst has past, represent another kind of preventable fatalities.

While the NOAA site focuses on the idea of tsunamis being caused by undersea slippage of earth, the impact from a large scale extraterrestrial object would probably be similar, although the front of the wave would be "sharper" and move at a higher velocity.

* I'd stash things in caves

* I'd plan to get world leaders out of low-lying areas around event time.

[Selena]

Since thye are talking about the anti-christ, maybe just the Christians will get killed?

Nah! Wrong! We all get to be :angelgrin :angelgrin :angelgrin and watch the survivors grovel in the dust!

I wonder if they have 24/7 Farscape in heaven?
:think:

[Mazinkaiser]

Nuts, i'm gonna miss the Boston Con by a week. :eek: ;)

[Selena]

A member of our ham radio club intercepted this transmission and shared it with a few of us. He made a digital recording of it. The transmissions took place on 1-26-04 staring at 0:5:00 UTC. The frequency was 11.176 mhz, USB.

:rolleyes: I better go home and process my SETI @ home download :innocent: I've been procrastinating and I probably have another vital message.

[BlackThorn]

No, no, no . . . it can't happen on the 19th. That's Defect9's birthday, and the world isn't allowed to end until we've celebrated it. I forbid it.

[NYPinTA]

:lol The end of the world is coming and were all just pissed we won't be able to see the mini! That is so wrong!! :lol

[Jeff O'Connor]

I guess I'm the only one idiotic enough to be generally concerned right now...

[NYPinTA]

And I'll never make it to 5000 posts in time! Damn it.

[Jeff O'Connor]

And I'll never make it to 5000 posts in time! Damn it.

Heh... I guess I no longer have to worry about that. I am curious though... the areas mostly mentioned center in the Pacific and whatnot. I suppose if it hits, it'll be around there? Wow, I'm really taken in by this. That's probably a sign of my naivety but damn this sounds strange.

[Mazinkaiser]

:lol The end of the world is coming and were all just pissed we won't be able to see the mini! That is so wrong!! :lol

It's not wrong. It's the end of the world as we know it... and we feel fine. :D

[grinner]

I guess I'm the only one idiotic enough to be generally concerned right now...
uh... would I have posted it if I wasn't the least bit... concerned?

[NYPinTA]

So do you think it's true?

[Jeff O'Connor]

uh... would I have posted it if I wasn't the least bit... concerned?

Oh yeah, that's true. Duh. It doesn't seem like anyone else is taking this too seriously but then in times of crisis it's best to add some humor. This could be nothing, or this could be something. Hmm...

This could be the worst thing since reality television, or it could be... the worst lie since reality television.

[Selena]

I hear St Peter has a gigantic screen inside the pearly gates and the mini is going to be playing without skiffymercials!

Commentary by the stars will be live and all questions will be answered. Admission is free and they will sign all and any autographs which are also free.

[BlackThorn]

uh... would I have posted it if I wasn't the least bit... concerned?

If you were laughing your eema off, then yes, I believe you would.

[NYPinTA]

I like the way you think Selena! :hug:

[grinner]

So do you think it's true?
do a search on Naval Maneuvers... from all the news sources that I have read... there is an unprecedented amount ships being put to sea. Makes you wonder...

[Selena]

This can't be the end of the world because that isn't supposed to happen till about 2011 according to Nostradamus and a few others who seem to make a life work out of such things.


Relax folks if it is the end of the world there is not a thing any of us can do about it. If it isn't, then won't all the gloom and doomers feel foolish!

[grinner]

If you were laughing your eema off, then yes, I believe you would.
eh??? Maybe I am a mark for good end of world conspiracy theories... but by following a bunch of the links that were provided on those two threads... makes ya wonder the amount of coincidences...

[Jeff O'Connor]

do a search on Naval Maneuvers... from all the news sources that I have read... there is an unprecedented amount ships being put to sea. Makes you wonder...

It's really, really making me wonder... grinner, explain something for me (I'm not very much informed on things... eh) what would the ships be doing at sea in the Pacific... what would they do to stop the effects to the best of their ability, or... what?

[Mazinkaiser]

I hear St Peter has a gigantic screen inside the pearly gates and the mini is going to be playing without skiffymercials!

Commentary by the stars will be live and all questions will be answered. Admission is free and they will sign all and any autographs which are also free.

g_s, stop doing your happy dance!

[stellar]

Since thye are talking about the anti-christ, maybe just the Christians will get killed?

Nope... Jews go first.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. A comet less than a month away would be visible to the naked eye.

[grinner]

This can't be the end of the world because that isn't supposed to happen till about 2011 according to Nostradamus and a few others who seem to make a life work out of such things.


Relax folks if it is the end of the world there is not a thing any of us can do about it. If it isn't, then won't all the gloom and doomers feel foolish!
that is true. and if this does occur... I want to be dead as soon as possible. And if it doesn't occur... I don't want to die for a whole lot of years...

[grinner]

It's really, really making me wonder... grinner, explain something for me (I'm not very much informed on things... eh) what would the ships be doing at sea in the Pacific... what would they do to stop the effects to the best of their ability, or... what?
apparantly... it is safer for a ship to be at sea in deeper water. They can ride out storms better than by shallow water


Lastly, did you know that just about every major countries navy's will be at sea in June? Apparently, deep water is much more safe than docking in shallow water if strong waves are blown inland. Here are some comments from one of the forums along with some links for proof of what is going on.

Just why is it that nearly our entire naval fleet, have unprecedented orders to leave for the Oceans? AND, they aren't alone. At least parts of Iran, Britain, Australia, China, France, India, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Vietnam are going too. Makes me want to find out where the British Navy is holing up these days. And what of the Russians? hmmm.... Does anyone ever stay home and protect their own borders anymore? Isn't that what they are supposed to be doing? Something is very, very fishy here!"

Let's go through a list of which countries are putting navies to sea for the month of June. Take the U.S. naval group's departure from San Diego. What's the official story of the 6,000+ sailors leaving Monday?

(Norfolk) a local television station in Norfolk reports that a total of seven carrier strike groups are putting to sea in June - which if I'm not mistaken is an unprecedented move: "While the Navy won't say where the seven carrier groups are going, the carriers not already deployed are expected to be gone for only one to two months." Story (RealPlayer needed) at http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=1902088&nav=23iiNU2h (England) The British are also putting an unusual number of ships to sea during June. http://www.navynews.co.uk/articles/2004/0405/0004052601.asp Meantime, Channel 13 in Hampton Roads, VA reports in part that:

"Called "Exercise Blinding Storm" by the United States and "Exercise Rapid Alliance" by the U.K., the training will involve about 30,000 troops from seven nations in exercises off and on the coast of North Carolina. Dutch marines and French soldiers will take part, as well as a Peruvian submarine and contingents from Germany and Canada. The flotilla is expected to set sail Tuesday, with the two-week amphibious exercise scheduled to begin June 10. The British landing platform dock ship Albion has already arrived. It carried four Challenger II battle tanks — the British equivalent of the U.S. M1-A1 Abrams tank. The tanks will be sent ashore aboard the ship's new landing craft during the exercise. The biggest British ship — the aircraft carrier Invincible — also has docked with a crew of 1,050. " http://www.wvec.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D82SAKN80.html

Also look at this huge list of other recent deployments...

Carrier Group Leaves On Deployment
Ships Are Not Scheduled To Support Operations In Iraq
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/3339032/detail.html

HUGE NAVAL STRIKE GROUP IS DEPLOYED! Western Pacific
(1) Aircraft carrier Stennis (CSG)
(2) Guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Champlain (CG 57)
(3) Burke-class destroyer USS Howard (DDG 83)
(4) Guided-missile frigate USS Ford (FFG 54)
(5) Fast-attack submarine USS Salt Lake City (SSN 716)
(6) Replenishment ship USNS Rainier (T-AOE 7) Also
(7) amphibious assault ship Belleau Wood
(8) amphibious transport dock ship Denver
(9) amphibious transport dock ships Comstock
(10-11) Burke-class guided missile destroyers Preble and Hopper -- will depart next month.
(12) USS Tucson Departs on Western Pacific Deployment
(13) Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Russell

Also: USS McCampbell (DDG 85) departed May 5 for its first
deployment. The ship and its crew are headed to Southeast Asia in support of a Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) cruise. McCampbell will be conducting joint naval exercises with the countries of Singapore, Thailand, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines.

Also: Twenty Royal Navy ships, led by HMS Invincible, are heading
off to take part in the exercise called Rapid Alliance, which is taking place off the eastern seaboard of the United States.

Article: Marines Take off for Naval Exercise with U.S.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2918574

Mediterranean Sea Surface Strike Group deployment:
(14) Guided-missile destroyer USS Ramage (DDG 61)
(15) Guided-missile destroyer USS Ross (DDG 71),
(16) Guided-missile frigate USS Elrod (FFG 55)

USS John C. Stennis Strike Group Deploys for Pacific Operations:
Navy-Marine strike group leaves on 6-month deployment:
More than 5,000 sailors and Marines with the Belleau Wood
Expeditionary Strike Group will leave San Diego Thursday for
a six-month deployment in support of the war on terrorism
The amphibious assault ship Belleau Wood and the amphibious
transport dock ships Denver and Comstock will depart from 32nd
Street Naval Station beginning at 8:30 a.m. Thursday. "It is the
first time an expeditionary strike group will be commanded by a Marine general, according to the Navy.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/05/27/military/20_54_265_26_04.txt

"The Army begins a major staging operation today at the port to ship equipment to southwest Asia." Article: Army to ship vehicles overseas via Olympia:
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20040520/topstories/54346.shtml

Official explanation: Strike Group Deploys Early To Help Quell
Insurgency "The plan was developed to train naval forces for quick response to crises and in support of national interests."
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/militaryconnection/3351632/detail.html

Ford heads to sea Frigate's crew departs for 4 months
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/05/27/loc_ford001.cfm

USS Tucson Departs on Western Pacific Deployment
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13418

Surface Strike Group Ships Deploy From Norfolk
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13096

"coastal patrol ships Typhoon and Sirocco prepared to leave port at the Little Creek Naval Amphibious Base Friday to relieve two sister ships" http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=69752&ran=237692

ROTA, Spain (NNS) -- USNS Patuxent (T-AO 201) accompanied patrol
boats USS Typhoon (PC 5) and USS Sirocco (PC 6) on their journey across the Atlantic Ocean to Naval Station Rota, Spain, and arrived in port with the two PCs May 12.
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13328

[NYPinTA]

This can't be the end of the world because that isn't supposed to happen till about 2011 according to Nostradamus and a few others who seem to make a life work out of such things.


Relax folks if it is the end of the world there is not a thing any of us can do about it. If it isn't, then won't all the gloom and doomers feel foolish!


I never heard exact dates from the Nostradomus folks, but I do remember the Mayan's have the world ending on Dec. 23, 2112... I remember that because the 23rd is my friends birthday.

[Selena]

As an aside here ... I'm an Aussie - a West Aussie - and I know all abouth things falling from the sky - like SkyLab back in the 70's ... we watched and wondered while huge chunks of debris rained all over our west coast cities and countryside. :pissed:

On the up side - I won't have to make any more house payments :aok:

[Mazinkaiser]

we all have to go sometime right? We might get to out with a bang. The only things left will be Cher, cockroaches, and g_s.

[Selena]

:eek: Wow grinner ... you do realize that just leaves the USS Constitution guarding the entire US coastline!

[Mazinkaiser]

As an aside here ... I'm an Aussie - a West Aussie - and I know all abouth things falling from the sky - like SkyLab back in the 70's ... we watched and wondered while huge chunks of debris rained all over our west coast cities and countryside. :pissed:

On the up side - I won't have to make any more house payments :aok:

:wingnut:

[grinner]

yep... but that ship is also out to sea... if anything were to occur... it would have time to get far enough away.

[stellar]

:eek: Wow grinner ... you do realize that just leaves the USS Constitution guarding the entire US coastline!

Cuban invasion!!!

http://www.clanmage.net/fishing/images/Cuban%20Truck/capt.1059000823.migrants_truck_boat_mh106.jpg

[Jeff O'Connor]

This is making me more and more intrigued and curious, and paranoid, by the moment...

[BlackThorn]

Yeah, joking is the scaper way of facing not-so-fun things. It is pretty interesting stuff, though. Kinda creepy.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Yeah, joking is the scaper way of facing not-so-fun things. It is pretty interesting stuff, though. Kinda creepy.

"This had better not influence the Sci-Fi Channel not to air the miniseries." *drumroll* :O

[NYPinTA]

Oh man... I knew I shoulda played hookey today! Not many days left to do that...

[Jeff O'Connor]

Oh man... I knew I shoulda played hookey today! Not many days left to do that...

Maybe I shouldn't go to school today myself... :O

[NYPinTA]

well, the end of the world is the best reason I can think of.... ;) That, or a Farscape marathon....

This was on MSNBC... but it's just a blub about something that happened in Washington state.... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5128433/

[Selena]

yep... but that ship is also out to sea... if anything were to occur... it would have time to get far enough away.

Are we talking about the same ship?

V The USS Constitution - the oldest commissioned US battle ship.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Oh dear.

[grinner]

Are we talking about the same ship?

V The USS Constitution - the oldest commissioned US battle ship.
yeah... I was kidding... being snarky

[Selena]

Check out this news story .... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5121072/ ... could it be? Nah too much of a coincidence!

[fermicat]

uh... would I have posted it if I wasn't the least bit... concerned?

Another motive is that it would be a catalyst for interesting discussion.

And you did, after all, post the John Titor thread. Hey, wouldn't he have mentioned a big comet/asteriod hit and lots of tsunamis? Seems like something that one would not forget.

[grinner]

Another motive is that it would be a catalyst for interesting discussion.

And you did, after all, post the John Titor thread. Hey, wouldn't he have mentioned a big comet/asteriod hit and lots of tsunamis? Seems like someone that one would not forget.
:innocent:ya got me. This is interesting though...

[grinner]

Check out this news story .... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5121072/ ... could it be? Nah too much of a coincidence!
well, considering most of the articles on the two threads were discussing that everything in space would be pelted... makes ya wonder if these blokes were told...

[BrowderChick]

I dont know what else to say about all this but if it happens then it happens....there isnt much that we can do about it. And here we are sitting behind our computers when we should be out spending our final days having fun and doing the things we didnt get to do before. I wont get all worked up over it because I guess that is just my way but seriously...there is nothing we can do. :dunno:

[NYPinTA]

well, considering most of the articles on the two threads were discussing that everything in space would be pelted... makes ya wonder if these blokes were told...
I was just wondering about that...
Maybe they are the Bruce Willis in this scenario... and they do know... hmm. :lol

[BrowderChick]

So basically if this news gets out and spreads even more around the world, there will be about 50 billion people out there on the 18th of June doing the horizontal mambo. :D Think of the population boom if the world doesnt end!

[BlackThorn]

:clap: BC!

[Jeff O'Connor]

50 Billion!? Whoa...

[grinner]

Thank ya... thank ya verra much... just need to TCB... ya know...

where's the Betty's... aw mama...

[scrape_medic]

I never heard exact dates from the Nostradomus folks, but I do remember the Mayan's have the world ending on Dec. 23, 2112... I remember that because the 23rd is my friends birthday.
Damn I thought it was 2012......spose I will have to keep making the mortgage payments.....:(

Why are the ships in the middle of the pacific, right in the path of the comet......where better to launch nukes at it.....:)

Ah, paranoia.....my friend.....I think :confused:

[Mike0812]

Mannnnn, couldn't it wait 'till after Farscape PKW :( Stupid, inconsiderate comet :irate: :pissed: Quick, where's Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck? Maybe we can blow them, uh, I mean the comet up?

Mike

[mfa96]

Nope... Jews go first.



I didn't think that's what they meant by "The Chosen People" :ewink:

[Jeff O'Connor]

I'm sure the comet will do whatever it can to convince the world to continue showing Farscape and whatnot before it unavoidably bursts into flames in our atmosphere and sadly, dies.

[RedKarma]

Ha ha! The last laugh is ours! Take that credit cards! So long student loans! And dare I say ("Dare, dare!") "At least I have a husband." (Airplane)

[BrowderChick]

Where is Moya when you need her to save the day? :D:D But then again everyone on board would be doing the mambo too. ...........Sheesh...where is my mind. :innocent:

[BlackThorn]

Mambo time, I say! :groove:

[Digger]

Mambo time, I say! :groove:
Hear Hear!!!

Well, one good thing about the end of the world, I won't have to deal with turning 40 this year.

[stellar]

Funny... I feel fine.

[Jeff O'Connor]

I'll never have to turn 20... wait... that's a bad thing...

[NYPinTA]

Damn I thought it was 2012......spose I will have to keep making the mortgage payments.....:(


You know, I think your right... it is 2012. But, is that really how you planned on dealing with you mortgage? ;)

[abbadon]

Funny... I feel fine.


Funny I dont ...Must be the lack of Rapid eye movement sleep

[Martincore]

Mambo time, I say! :groove:

aww... I don't have anybody to mambo with... right... I won't be back in a couple of days, gotta go find a dancing partner...

this reminds me of the Chris Cornell-song "Preaching The End Of The World" ... grat song btw...

[BaseLine]

We should've died about 200 times by now because of all the other doom scenarios. I bet this is also not gonna happen.

[Selena]

...........Sheesh...where is my mind. :innocent:
Virginia .... Pennyslvania???
:think:

[Selena]

Sheesh this means I'll miss Dragon*Con and my week in Orlando :pace:

[Selena]

.... repercussions and consequences if the world ends this month

You won't have to go to work or school
You won't have to do laundry, cook, do dishes, clean house or do yardwork
You won't have to pay credit card bills
You won't have to pay your taxes
You won't have to pay your student loan
You won't have to go to Alabama for 2 weeks to visit the in-laws
The trip you thought you couldn't take because it was too expensive - take it this week-end and put it on the plastic
You can put your feet up on the furniture becasue it won't matter if it get's scratched or scuffed
You can tell your boss (if you hate him) that he's a jerk :frellyou:
You could flatten Joe when he makes one of his noises or comments without caring
The cost of gas won't bother you
You can ditch the diet and pig out on food you've been avoiding
You can be promiscuous :lech: if you want to and not worry if you catch some horrible disease
You won't have to vote on any FMD polls
You can sell your Gold Pass to Burbank on eBay and :snicker: the jerk that buys it won't get to use it
You could :surf: some really huge waves when the tsunami comes in
You won't have to pay long distance and roaming charges on your phones
You won't care if the Stock Market crashes and wipes out your retirement savings
You can order all the Farscape DVDs and sets and any other shows you haven't seen, have them shipped overnight and start a movie marathon
You can stop taking your cholesterol and blood pressure medicine
You can mambo :groove: till the lights go out

Oh, and you may as well go buy a couple of clanedars ... they'll be shipped next week anyway, so you can at least enjoy them while you wait for the end.

I'm sure there's more

[Darth Buddha]

This is mildly intriguing.

I'm suppose I should be glad I will be far from the coast on the 19th & 20th, but if there is a strike of such magnitude I doubt life for the survivors will be good... or last very long. If it is a big hit, then for those who did survive: human, it's the other white meat! After all, very few folks live near where the food is grown these days.

I wonder. At 146 days out, could you really tell if something coming toward you would be a direct hit or a near miss? Especially something moving as fast as a comet (much faster than an asteroid).

Then too, wouldn't there be enough activity by this point to make preparations obvious? Surely there would be more than just ship movements? What else would a government do?

Would there be convoys carrying supplies to bunker sites?

Would there be cancellations of obligations by world leaders as we approach impact hour?

Wouldn't time on many other telescopes be hijacked to try to determine if it is going to miss?

If this is going to go down, I'd expect it to get out of the bag in the next week at the very most.

Of course I'll continue to rely on FMD's most reliable news source: The Demon Knight!

[Third EYe]

you will not necessarily see it with the naked eye yet. However, I'm quite confident that a meteor of earth destruction size is going to hit us anytime soon. I've been hearing about such events occuring every month for the past 20 years, and I'm not exagerating. Coast to Coast alone has a had a dozen or so hit this millenium alone.

If you don't look up, it won't hit you.

Besides, if it were true, I don't want to know, unless NASA makes those shuttles more affordable.

[Jul]

if this were true, wouldn't you think the military would want to recruit more women or make sure there were more on those ships in order to repopulate the world after the fact??

[Jeff O'Connor]

if this were true, wouldn't you think the military would want to recruit more women or make sure there were more on those ships in order to repopulate the world after the fact??

Yeah, but I don't think there's a general feeling that all shall die or anything, because after all the ships in the Pacific shows that there may well be an attempt on destroying the asteroid and whatnot... I think?

[grinner]

quoting from Scorpy808 over at Kansas... he knew where these were initially posted... and where I got them from as well. I really doubt this is going to happen... but if it does... oh well.
oby, don't feel bad, I was hording stuff for the big end-of-the-world-that-never-ended-up-happening-at-the-millennium !

As for this latest thing ... people like this guy who posted all this are seriously sick in the head. Usually, it's religious fanatics ... and when I read those first couple lines off that link about how this will all happen unless the "anti-christ" is revealed, it pretty much sealed the deal that's what this was.

Also, they mentioned Nostradamus several times ... agains, totall bullsh*t ... They tried to do a lot of "oohh COIENCIDENCE???" type of stuff by diggin up info pertaining to terrorism and trying to twist it into some mass disaster prepardness thing.

They try to confuse people with real info ... claiming that it's coded (I saw a direct link to the harvard.edu list of potentially hazerdous asteriods, without the header info of course, just a list of the data here: http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/lists/Dangerous.html

They also tried linking to a bunch of random SOHO (Solar and Heliospheric Observatory) animated gifs of the NEAT commet and a couple others. Those images were from 2002 and early 2003, NOT recently.

Also, a guy named Don Best came forward recently after finding out about this "story" as the "Aussie Bloke" plagerized the whole thing from him, starting from posts on another message board (Here are the two main threads that this information has been taken from:

Red Flags thread: 8660 reads: Started, 04/22/04

www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97263

Comets of spring: 15,000 reads: Started 02/15/04

www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91617)


I could go on ... but basically, it's a trying-so-hard-to-be-based-on-reality scam.

I check out a lot of the space sites semi-regularly so I'll post up some REAL info below ....

http://spaceweather.com/ - this is a fun site that explains what's going on out in space. They also have accurate and current info on NEO's/NEA's (near earth objects/astroids) right on their home page (just scroll down towards the bottom of the page)

Here (http://www.astronomy.com/Content/Dynamic/Articles/000/000/001/211viree.asp) you can read a story about the actual comment this nut case says he hitting the earth in a couple weeks.

You can also track the comet on the SOHO site: http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/

And of course, this site: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/

[who45]

Now this is one thing I don't have to stress over. I don't think it will happen. As many have pointed out, there have been many end-of-the world-as-we-know-it prophecies, so I find it hard to believe in this one. Besides, there are too many things I haven't done yet drat it.

[Digger]

Yeah, not everone will die. Some people will just hang out in the New York public library until a ship comes sailing down 5th avenue to pick them up.

Oh, wait, that's from "The Day After Tomorrow". Never mind.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Yeah, not everone will die. Some people will just hang out in the New York public library until a ship comes sailing down 5th avenue to pick them up.

Oh, wait, that's from "The Day After Tomorrow". Never mind.

Yeah... but... who knows. What a joke it'll be to the survivors if it happens.

[Third EYe]

if this were true, wouldn't you think the military would want to recruit more women or make sure there were more on those ships in order to repopulate the world after the fact??


This reminds me of Emo Phillips, in one of his routines, this girl he's had a crush on forever tell him that she would not sleep with him if he were the last man on earth. His response is

if I were the last man on earth, what makes you think I'd let you in line?

[abbadon]

Since thye are talking about the anti-christ, maybe just the Christians will get killed?

[Jeff O'Connor]

Oh my.

[grinner]

hey, anyone else think that this reminds them a little like the book 'Lucifer's Hammer'?

[Third EYe]

he he

[abbadon]

There's a lot to wade through here.....I'll get back to you.....Hopefully in time...

[Kurt_eh]

Appologies if it's a double-posting, but I'm too lazy to check :dunno: :innocent:

R.E.M.
http://www.paradise-engineering.com/quotation/itstheendoftheworldasweknowit.mp3

Great Big Sea (cover)
http://www.greatbigsea.com/themusic/audio/play7.mp3
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/clipserve/B000007OPC001004/1/102-4737049-1108131

That’s great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane -

Lenny Bruce is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -

world serves its own needs, don’t misserve your own needs. Feed it up a knock,

speed, grunt no, strength no. Ladder structure clatter with fear of height,

down height. Wire in a fire, represent the seven games in a government for

hire and a combat site. Left her, wasn’t coming in a hurry with the furies

breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trump, tethered

crop. Look at that low plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,

common group, but it’ll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves it's

own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the

reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright

light, feeling pretty psyched.



It’s the end of the world as we know it.

It’s the end of the world as we know it.

It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.



Six o’clock - TV hour. Don’t get caught in foreign tower. Slash and burn,

return, listen to yourself churn. Lock him in uniform and book burning,

blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle,

light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush. Uh oh,

this means no fear - cavalier. Renegade and steer clear! A tournament,

a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives

and I decline.


It’s the end of the world as we know it.

It’s the end of the world as we know it.

It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.



The other night I tripped a nice continental drift divide. Mountains sit in a line.

Leonard Bernstein. Leonid Breshnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs.

Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic,

slam, but neck, right? Right.



It’s the end of the world as we know it.

It’s the end of the world as we know it.

It’s the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine...fine...


(It’s time I had some time alone)

[Selena]

By abbadon
8 Beleivers
Modified on 25 Dec 0000, 03:12:23

What time zone was that?

[abbadon]

What time zone was that?

Judean people's timezone........Not the people's timezone of Judea......Splitter's..

[Third EYe]

let that be a lesson to ya

[Selena]

Here's a couple of other things ...

You will never find out what Marty was going to ask Holly on the beach that starry night
You won't know if Drake McKenzie falls afoul of Carlos the Peruvian Drug Lord.
You won't hear the jury's verdict in the Federal Government vs Willard Blake.
You won't meet all the FMD Scapers at Burbank this year
You'll lose your deposit at the Hilton
You won't find out who would have made it to the Superbowl in 2005
You'll miss the new Star Wars movie
You'll miss Farscape: Peacekeeper War
You won't see Ben ham it up at Burbank

[AgentSun]

and you will never find out what meatloaf meant when he said "i'll do anything for love...but i won't do that"

[grinner]

Snowball intercept (http://users.pandora.be/BuRn/SNOWBALL_intercept.mp3%5b1%5d.mp3)

[AxezCore]

Come now, think about this for a second... you've got several thousand proffesional astronomers around the world, not to metion the millions of hobby astronomers. There is no way in hell they could keep this kinda thing secret, not for a minute.

As for all the ships leaving port, election day is drawing near, maybe Bush and his warmongers plans some nice fireworks for the voters.

[grinner]

clearer version of Snowball (http://www.cottongraphicdesign.com/SNOWBALL_intercept.mp3)

[Scarran Raptor]

if and when I die, I hope to meet some of you in the afterlife, if it's heaven we shall celebrate together and if it's hell I'll be the guy running the Ironic punishment department and you're all invited for "celebrity torture tour" where we shove giant flaming mice up Michael Eisner's ass, throw rick Berman in a room full of klingons and strap Bonnie hammer and Shannen doherty into twin Aurora chairs set to "11"

[atlantagirl]

"Called "Exercise Blinding Storm" by the United States and "Exercise Rapid Alliance" by the U.K., the training will involve about 30,000 troops from seven nations in exercises off and on the coast of North Carolina. Dutch marines and French soldiers will take part, as well as a Peruvian submarine and contingents from Germany and Canada. The flotilla is expected to set sail Tuesday, with the two-week amphibious exercise scheduled to begin June 10. The British landing platform dock ship Albion has already arrived. It carried four Challenger II battle tanks — the British equivalent of the U.S. M1-A1 Abrams tank. The tanks will be sent ashore aboard the ship's new landing craft during the exercise. The biggest British ship — the aircraft carrier Invincible — also has docked with a crew of 1,050.

coughg8summitseaislandcough

[Jeff O'Connor]

Wow... what a popular discussion this is becoming... I wonder why. I mean it's not like the fate of the human race may rest on the validity of the issue or anything, people. Sheesh. [/sarcasm]

[grinner]

wha???

[Jeff O'Connor]

wha???

Eh, sorry if that wasn't very understandable... I've had a bad day and it only keeps getting worse... what I meant was basically "wow, a lot of people posted here. Obvious why though."

[Mazinkaiser]

You won't find out who would have made it to the Superbowl in 2005


Cowboys vs. Patriots.

Cowboys would have won 42-27, oh well, ;)

[alicat81]

and you will never find out what meatloaf meant when he said "i'll do anything for love...but i won't do that"
Hahaha! No kidding, what the hell wont he do?? someone needs to tell us.

[Third EYe]

Bears vs Raiders

Raiders win, whatever to zero, pure slaughter.

No I don't take medication. (why does everybody ask me that, and how do i make my voice do this?)

[alicat81]

Oh no, the Red Sox need to win a world series before the end of the world too. Damn, eh oh well, it was never gonna happen anyway

[grinner]

Bears vs Raiders

Raiders win, whatever to zero, pure slaughter.

No I don't take medication. (why does everybody ask me that, and how do i make my voice do this?)
sorry... but the Bears don't lose SuperBowls.

[alicat81]

Cowboys vs. Patriots.

Cowboys would have won 42-27, oh well, ;)
Hey yeah, where have the Cowboys been the last like 5 years? I dont remember seeing them. I remember the Pats in 2002, oh oh and in 2004, but no no Cowboys..... :rolleyes:

[Mazinkaiser]

sorry... but the Bears don't lose SuperBowls.

They need to get to another one first ;) Man, I'm gonna miss football :(

[Mazinkaiser]

Hey yeah, where have the Cowboys been the last like 5 years? I dont remember seeing them. I remember the Pats in 2002, oh oh and in 2004, but no no Cowboys..... :rolleyes:

Wait till next season :D





oh nuts there wont be one :(

[alicat81]

[QUOTE=Mazinkaiser]Wait till next season :D

For them to lose again, ok I will

[Selena]

Things that will forever remain a mystery ...
Why certain street lights go out just as you walk under them.
If the meaning of life, the universe and everything, really is 42!
Who really shot JFK.
If Jack the Ripper was a space farin' alien.
How they put the big ships in the little bottles.
Why a toilet only needs plunging when there's something nasty in it.
If there is sentient life on other planets, in other solar systems
How the Titans can win almost every game during the season and then lose the 4 vital games before the Superbowl
Why Bermuda grass grows better in a garden bed than in a well cared for lawn

[Mazinkaiser]

If there is sentient life on other planets, in other solar systems

I thought g_s answered that question ;)

[Selena]

g_s comes from another planet in another solar system :eek:

[Mazinkaiser]

g_s comes from another planet in another solar system :eek:

Its full of clowns, but he just wasnt funny enough.

[StarsGoBlue]

huh. well THAT'S one way to get out of teaching summer school... :lol

[grinner]

huh. well THAT'S one way to get out of teaching summer school... :lol
:roflmao:

My buddy says I need to get a job... as I am spending way too much time on the interweb looking for weird stuff...

[LiLOrion]

huh. well THAT'S one way to get out of teaching summer school... :lol

One way to get out of going to summer school too! :aok: :D

[StarsGoBlue]

This (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/comet_bronzeage_011113-1.html) is a neat article. It doesn't have much of anything to do with the doomsday scenario that started the thread, but it is related. And much less hysterical in rhetoric. :D

[Madre Farbot]

Hi there everyone. Although I haven't read this thread in it's entirety I have been mulling over the words in both articles (links) given by grinner.

Ok, here is the punch part to the second article:

Aussie Bloke
5/29/2004
5:19 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#3

Ok...here it is. I AM DR GARTREL. Happy now? As for what I know....I've already told you. You want bloody details....you have them already. You want to know what will happen?...read the above posts. You don't believe me?...YOUR problem! YOU have brains...USE THEM....as I've encouraged you all to do all along!!! READ THE BLOODY SIGNS>>>>>>>but no...some remain flaming BLIND!!!! because they WANT TO. Wont change a thing. I am screwed now...cats out of the bag now...I am who I am....and who gives a ____. IM BLOODY ANGRY!!!!! DO you people have ANY BLOODY IDEA at ALL what it has been like for myself and others who have known about this for BLOODY TWO DECADES!!!!!!!! But no...WELL BUGGER IT ALL!!!!!! For those who have patiently waited for me I am truly sorry for not doing the expected. I told you all weeks ago exactly where and when...you have the details already. The reason? THINK about it!!! IF I had told you all back then that the information WAS in fact THE information you all wanted....the site would have shut down. I had to do it this way...the information has been out for over two weeks now...and the ptb can now do bugger all about it. I have been around them long enough to know how they think and what they would do...now they can do nothing. The times locations and eta of the cloud and objects has already been posted. NOW all you have to do is hope to hell that someone out there copied it. NOW...GET THE WORD OUT!!!! THIS IS LEGIT. FAREWELL TO ALL. SEE YOU IN ETERNITY.

Someone did some research on Aussie Bloke and found out that he is indeed who he say's he is, which makes the entire thread that I had sent you several weeks ago even more disturbing.* Here is the info that has been pulled about him:

http://www.imo.net/bib/metshw0.html
Bibliographic Meteor Database - Meteor Showers
GARTRELL G., ELFORD W.G. (1975):
SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE METEOR STREAM DETERMINATION
Austral. J. Phys. 28, 591-620

http://www.darksky.org/infoshts/is044.html
Olsson-Steel, D.I. & Elford, W.G., The Use of Radars in the Detection of In falling Space Debris International Dark-Sky Association -- Information Sheet 44 Astronomical Society of the Pacific Conference Series, Vol. 17 08/98

http://www.terrapub.co.jp/journals/EPS/abstract/5107_08/51070691.html
Meteor observations with an MF radar
Masaki Tsutsumi1, David Holdsworth2, Takuji Nakamura3, and Iain Reid4
1National Institute of Polar Research, Tokyo, Japan
2Atmospheric Radar Systems, Adelaide, Australia
3Radio Atmospheric Science Center, Kyoto University, Uji, Kyoto, Japan
4University of Adelaide, Adelaide, Australia
(Received August 19, 1998; Revised June 6, 1999; Accepted June 10, 1999)
Earth Planets Space, Vol. 51 (Nos. 7, 8), pp. 691-689, 1999 in the bibliography of the pdf: Steel, D. I. and W. G. Elford, The height distribution of radio meteors: comparison of observations at different frequencies on the basis of standard echo theory, J. Atmos. Terr. Phys., 53, 409–417, 1991.

I am going to leave your readers (if you decide to post this) with several links, and information that I have been able to pull about this "end of the world" scenario.* It is not just Aussie Bloke who is talking about these inbound comets, there are also some very disturbing signs happening which leads one to believe that either there are some incredible coincidences going on, or Aussie Bloke is right, and we will have "hell on earth" in June.*

By the way, here are the days and the events which are supposed to happen on them:

* June 8-9** Dust Cloud begins to reach the Earth and darkening of the skies.
* June 18-20* 1st impact
* June 24-25* 2nd impact
* June 27-28* 3rd impact of the "anomaly"
----------------------------

At first, like many normal people I guessed this was just another nut looking for some meaning to a perhaps sad and pathetic life. The more of the first article I read the more concerned I was becoming. But after considering this punch part of the second article it has dawned on me that this could be an incredibly well crafted ruse.

First of all why is that this "Aussie bloke" is being (so it seems) innocently introduced to these bunch of christians. I mean something like this that has been bottled up for so long, you'd really like to tell everyone. But, then again, if you were a responsible member of the scienticfic community you'd probably voice your concerns in a less vociforous manner, perhaps less of a ranting and raving manner.

Secondly, he finally annouces himself as, DR G Gartrel, but his narrator - for want of the propper word - has spelt his name as G. Gartrell.

Thirdly those links mean nothing to me. Ok, I haven't used my brains as this Aussie bloke would put it to do some serious research, but then again, if his original message was to allow people to prepare themselves, friends, and relations that they are going to face certain death, then why the blinking game. Nobody would be that cruel, and certainly, no one who has contributed stuff in journals could display that loudmouth irresponsiblility.... Or could they?

Incidentally, I heard on the news that there is going to be some kind of meteor shower on the 8th of June.... I think?

[fermicat]

Interesting article, Stars. Thanks for posting it.

[fermicat]

Incidentally, I heard on the news that there is going to be some kind of meteor shower on the 8th of June.... I think?

June 8 is the date that Venus transits the sun: http://www.transitofvenus.org/

[Madre Farbot]

Hey, thanks a lot there fermicat cat. I guess I'm just cream crackered from getting up really early in the morning and working almost non-stop without propper lunch breaks.I suppose I must have conflated both the online article and news article into one. Silly me again. I must be fahrbot. :rollin:

[Clarsax]

My only question is whether this website and its information is reliable. I've heard plenty of doomsday stories, particularly back in 2000 when almost everyone was convinced the world was going to end in some way with the coming of the new millenium. It seems a little strange because I have never heard anything about this from any other place. Well, I guess we'll all find out next week. If so, nice knowing you all.

[Poseidon]

Great read. I'm going to continue what I've always done. Come home from work, pop open a beer sit on my lawn chair and watch the sunset. If it happens I'll laugh my ass off because it's funny. I've spent too many years worrying about things that don't matter. If it doesn't happen I'll laugh my ass off because then I'll have to go back to worrying about things that don't matter. So either way it's going to get a big laugh out of me.

Here is a cool pic from Mars. The question, what is that bright light?

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/n/148/2N139514697EFF6104P1970R0M1.HTML

[BlackThorn]

Concerning this "Aussie Bloke" . . . Someone is apparrently claiming credit for this person.

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=3851

Posted By: Shiffee

posted on 2-6-2004 at 05:53 PM Post Number: 568940 (post id: 589634)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread51056/pg38

You are all to be commended for your exemplary performance these past several weeks. Your unwitting participation in BLIND SKIES has proven most informative, and quite frankly entertaining to many project members. To say that it got out of hand would be an exercise in understatement. We picked GLP precisely because it was out of the way, off the beaten path of usual internet surfers. It suited our needs perfectly. Unmoderated. Anonymous posting. We couldn´t have asked for a better testbed unless we had built it ourselves.

Rest assured, Elaine is in no way part of this. She is/was as unaware of the true nature of our experiment as the rest of you.

Our initial hypothesis was straightforward enough: Given the barest minimum of verifiable evidence, ordinary citizens of average to above-average intelligence could be duped into wholesale belief in a catastrophe scenario, provided there was ample corroboration from equally ambiguous, non-credible sources.

We never anticipated the myth spreading beyond the confines of GLP. When the conservative website, Bushcountry, picked up the story, we realized that our initial models had failed miserably to account for the ´word-of-mouth´ potential inherent in the internet. At most, we thought perhaps a few other fringe sites might get on board, but it´s obvious to us now that it´s only a matter of time before a mainstream media outlet syndicates this content, at which point the story will explode into something far beyond our ability to control.

In fact, it may already be there.

We should have spoken up sooner. This all moved so quickly, we just weren´t prepared to adapt to the monster we had unleashed.

For our own protection, because it´s becoming abundantly clear that civil/criminal litigation may result from this experiment, we cannot and will not identify ourselves, nor will we reveal any details that might readily be traced to us. We´re confident that using IP logs will prove frustrating for you, at best.

Because of the overwhelming success of this project, we will not be apologizing. You all behaved exactly as we had predicted, falling into 2 camps on either side of the issue. The believers held fast to every scrap of datum, whether it was credible or not. The non-believers grew frustrated and angry as their attempts to apply logic and reason were ignored. Anger and dissent grew and grew, and ultimately the entire story devolved into an unintelligible mass of contradictory assertions and accusations. We are acutely aware that even our own admission in this forum will be viewed as yet more hoax material, albeit more cleverly crafted and well-thought out than standard fare for these pages.

BLIND SKIES began with an idea. The now-legendary SNOWBALL INTERCEPT provided the impetus we had been looking for, the final piece of a puzzle that had been confounding us for the past 14 months. It was the perfect backstory for a disaster scenario that would be easily accepted. Few people have any real knowledge of astronomy. Fewer still know much about the socio-political environment that modern astronomers operate within, and when one of our members suggested using an invented Australian astronomer to further muddy the waters, we knew it was time to release.

To be honest, we have no knowledge of the validity and/or credibility of the so-called SNOWBALL INTERCEPT. We have no affiliation with it whatsoever. We only used its existence to further our agenda. That current world events have proceeded in such a way as to lend perceived credibility to our fiction is by no means our fault. Many of you fail to appreciate the power of coincidence. While we had anticipated that at least some activity in current events would affect the outcome of the project, we never expected nor modelled the possibility of so many "dots", as some of you have called them, coming together around our story.

We planted the seeds with NOTED & WARNED. Just enough credibility to whet your appetites. We did hire an astronomer to assist us with the final stages of BLIND SKIES, so that we could craft messages containing sufficient truth to warrant further investigation. Following up with AUSSIE BLOKE, we added fuel to the fire in the form of a fictional, curmudgeonly astronomer whose conscience had finally moved him to reveal the details of an impending catastrophe to a select group of forum visitors on an obscure website.

Some of you saw through the veil. Some of you, even after reading this, will continue to insist upon the reality of ´AB´. While we predicted that some people would continue to believe even beyond the scope of the project, we did not anticipate the enormous numbers involved. Because so many people remain convinced (and will continue to remain convinced, even after reading this), we elected to release this message as a means of covering our collective behinds from whatever legal fallout remains ahead of us.

We´ve told you it´s not real. We´ve provided you a credible, logical explanation as to why it isn´t real and given you some insight as to what its true purpose was. In our eyes, we have absolved ourselves of at least some of the guilt that is surely to be laid at our feet in the coming days and weeks.

AUSSIE BLOKE has taken on a life of his own here. Our last use of him was the ´vacation´ message. Similarly, NOTED & WARNED has not been used by us for several weeks, and yet forum messages continue to appear, ostensibly implying that they are from these purely fictional characters.

Many of you picked up on the PLANET X elements in our story, and that was intended, as well. There are already many believers in this (we are not among them), and they provided a reliable base group that we could reasonably expect to buy into our story relatively early on.

BLIND SKIES is not, as many have claimed, a ´PSY OP´. Although we have an affiliation with the government, our mandate was not intended to be any sort of disinformation campaign, mass brainwashing, or subliminal manipulation. We conducted a serious experiment to study the panic reflexes of a virtual community, and quite frankly the experiment ran away from us. AUSSIE BLOKE has now become our Frankenstein´s Monster.

We applaud the efforts of so many of you to find the ´facts´ behind the fiction. We were impressed by the fact that many people realized their lack of astronomical knowledge, and sought to follow AB´s advice and LOOK TO THE SKIES, and INVESTIGATE FOR YOURSELVES! We cannot say that we aren´t pleased with our role in inspiring a new renaissance in the field of astronomy.

Near Earth Objects are a threat to our planet, and someday perhaps there will be a scenario that closely matches what we created for BLIND SKIES. However, that day is not today.

We will continue to monitor these forums, along with many others, and we will continue to collect the data regarding your responses. Even the release of this message was factored into the experiment, however as we have already stated, we never anticipated releasing it to such a broad audience.

One interesting result that we had not considered was the various religous and prophetic threads that have spawned as a result of our experiment. One project member commented that it was encouraging to see that faith is not dead in the world.

And so, to you believers, I say be careful in what, and in whom, you place your faith and your trust. And, to you non-believers I say, continue to keep up the fight for truth and reason, because you are logic´s last line of defense.

With regards,

The Monitors

[StarsGoBlue]

And apparently, "The Monitors" is another reference to some movie... :rolleyes:

Maybe we should Scape these people, so they have something useful to do with their time... :D

[grinner]

:lol... this is hilarious. I was hoping it would end up being something like this. Almost as good as the stories about the time traveling dude...

[soyarma]

Think of the physics folks. Our happy little planet here whistles along at a good 30 kilometers a second as it whips around the sun. A meteor strike that would HURT but not wipe us out is a meteor of about 1 - 2 kilometers (right around a mile). Once you get a meteor in the 3 mile diameter range it would fracture the crust of the planet like your grandma's nice flakey pie being hit by a fork. That and it would make a wave that would wash over every continent.

So. If we are looking at an asteriod that is about 1 - 2, maybe 3 kilometers across and was coming at the earth, given that we are moving at 30 klicks a second we are talking about predicting an event 14 months in the future down to a 5 second range.

Even if it is a massive cloud of particles moving in towards the sun, and even if that massive cloud is larger than the earth then we are still within a minute or two of missing it if the calculations are off. If it is something that big we would be able to see it with the naked eye.

We are also in luck as this summer all the planets are in alignment. While that does cause interesting stellar phenomenon due to all the shifts in gravity, stuff comming in from outside the solar system (through the oort cloud... god - if it were moving DAMN FAST it would have come through the oort cloud about 30 years ago... back when we were postulating about the existence of the oort cloud (a particle cloud at the very very very very outer edge of our solar system - so far out that none of our probes have reached it yet)) would hit the larger outer planets first since they are essentially blocking for us at the moment.

Earth is actually very well set up to avoid being hit by large stellar objects. Our outer solar system is packed with massive planets that have immensely larger gravitational fields than ours - so much larger that our planet is not significantly larger than the size of some of their moons. Heck the Red spot on Jupiter is 3x the size of earth just to get some perspective. Even if stellar objects make it past the outer planets on some miraculous direct trajectory towards earth they still have to negotiate the asteriod belt without getting knocked off course, and then as a last resort our abnormally large moon blocks for us quite well.

so basically if it comes past jupiter and gets pulled one one thousandthd of a degree off - it'll miss us by hundreds of thousands of miles - if it were even heading right for us to begin with.

Just to beat the dead horse - assuming you had a gun that could shoot that far - it would be like firing a gun in LA and hitting a guy in London England - shooting west.

[Mike0812]

Just to beat the dead horse - assuming you had a gun that could shoot that far - it would be like firing a gun in LA and hitting a guy in London England - shooting west.

Could happen ;) :D Seriously, that's a pretty cool and logical way at looking at it. It's a pain in the ass, BUT, ya gotta love physics! Thanks for the info :)

Mike

[soyarma]

Oh, and about the ships at sea bit. Regardless of why they are moving them out, when storms come they make big waves that crash against the short which equals big waves crashing ships against the shore which of course is bad, lol.

I doubt that the number of ships going out right now is any notable ammount. I mean, when we took Okinawa(sp) in WWII we had over 100 aircraft carriers alone.

[grinner]

I understand all that... I just think it is funny that things like this keep popping up. As if we really could do anything to stop it from occuring if it did occur.

[soyarma]

yeah... even if we did run, where would we run to?

[grinner]

and why would we want to struggle to survive... hell, I have seen way too many survival movies... to want to go thru that... just let me die quick... or give me the resources to survive.

[grinner]

I am sure it is purely coincidence... that Deep Impact in on CBS tonight...

[who45]

Well, if anyone believes that this is going to happen, they should watch it and take notes,lol.

[BlackThorn]

grinner, I hate you. Everytime I see this thread I start singing that frelling song!!! :irate:

[grinner]

grinner, I hate you. Everytime I see this thread I start singing that frelling song!!! :irate:
kisses to you as well... :kotc:

[BlackThorn]

:hork:

:ewink:

[Lord Loser]

Should I be concerned? It's the 8th and the sky slowly went dark around here. In fact, it's totally black right now. Anyone else experiencing this?

[Jeff O'Connor]

Should I be concerned? It's the 8th and the sky slowly went dark around here. In fact, it's totally black right now. Anyone else experiencing this?

Oh no... what time is it over there LL????????????????????

[BlackThorn]

You see . . . there's this thing called Night . . . .

[Jeff O'Connor]

You see . . . there's this thing called Night . . . .

What is this night???????????? What is this night????????????? Tell me... tell me! :eek:

[generic_screenname]

Well, it's the 9th. I guess the end of the world as we know it already happened. But if you think about it, the end of the world as we know it happens all the time. The world is constantly changing. When they replaced the light brown M&Ms with blue ones, that was the end of the world as we know it. A third of the population didn't die, but it was the end of the world as we knew it.

[MrVesham]

Well... the spirit of the light brown M&M is still with us. I can rest comfortably with that in mind.

Say, anybody know why the moon looks so lumpy today? Movin' a little fast too.

Ahn, no bother.

[trubador]

Actually, it's June 19th or 20th (not the 9th & 10th). Which means 10 more days of worrying. :eek3:

[Kurt_eh]

"No boom (yesterday) boom tomorrow. Boom always tomorrow!"

[AxezCore]

Not sure if this has already been posted, but if it hasn't then here's a little nugget for you conspiracy theorists :D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3802865.stm

[Third EYe]

I think the real conspiracy is that this end of the world thing is a conspiracy in order to keep us calm and serene so we never know what hits us.

[Selena]

yeah but wasn't the sky supposed to turn to night on the 8th or something?

[Poseidon]

Wasn't it just darker and hazier? I think the night scenario begins on 18 after the supposed first hit.

[Selena]

How typical, I finally get a roof on my shed and some stupid meteor is probably going to land on it. :pissed:

[Martincore]

so, you didn't get a meteor-proof roof? How silly of you...

[Jeff O'Connor]

CaNnOt FiNd sERVeR!!!

[grinner]

so... any thoughts about tomorrow???

[fermicat]

so... any thoughts about tomorrow???

:yawn: TGIF?

[abbadon]

:yawn: TGIF?


Thank God It's FrellDay ?

[grinner]

:yawn: TGIF?
walked into that one... didn't it... :P

[trubador]

http://news.newspress.com/topsports/061504ufo.htm

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/meteor_washington_040603.html

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040612/sc_afp/nzealand_astronomy_040612220524

Hmmmmmmmmm....
:think:

[Kurt_eh]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001946256_webflash03.html

[mgraylorn]

City-Sized Asteroid to Pass Earth This Fall
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 06:30 am ET
03 May 2004

A minor rumor has hatched on the Internet that a large and deadly asteroid will strike Earth this fall. Bulletin board discussions cite a 63 percent chance of impact, while concerned readers have e-mailed SPACE.com wondering if it is true.

Astronomers know of no such impending doom.

The rumors are likely rooted in a real event, however. On Sept. 29, 2004 an asteroid the size of a small city will make the closest known pass of such a very large space rock anytime this century.

While not dangerous for now, asteroid Toutatis is incredibly strange. And scientists are quite familiar with it, having bounced radar off the tumbling stone on previous flybys to generate computer renderings of its weird shape and movement.

Toutatis looks something like a dumbbell hurtling awkwardly through space. It has a crazy rotation that makes normal days impossible. Scientists can't explain the shape or the spin, but they're eager to learn more in September when, during the close pass, even backyard skywatchers will be able to spot the asteroid.

Well known path

The orbit of Toutatis is pinned down with better precision than any other large asteroid known to cross Earth's orbit. Toutatis' 4-year trek around the Sun ranges from just inside the Earth's path out to the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. The asteroid visits us every four years.

This fall, it will zoom by our planet within a million miles, or about four times the distance to the Moon.

That's close by cosmic standards for an object that could cause global devastation. Toutatis hasn't been so near since the year 1353 and won't be that close again until 2562, NASA scientists have calculated. No other asteroid so large is known to have come so close in the past, though accurate tracking of space rocks is a fairly recent, high-tech skill that still leaves wide margins of error for many objects.

Toutatis is about 2.9 miles long and 1.5 miles wide (4.6 by 2.4 kilometers).

Many smaller space rocks have passed by much closer, well inside the Moon's orbit. Other asteroids in the size range of Toutatis have surely navigated that window, too, but were unseen in eras when the skies were not scanned so fully as today.

And throughout history, several asteroids and comets have hit the planet. In fact, an object the size of Mars hit Earth when it was very young, creating the Moon, scientists believe. But experts say the odds of a major collision in any year are extremely small. Any other near-Earth asteroid as big as Toutatis would almost surely be spotted decades or centuries before any possible impact.

The prediction of any such event would make huge news rather than small rumors.

Not dangerous, just bizarre

Asteroid Toutatis, officially numbered 4179, was discovered by French astronomers in 1989. Researchers can't predict far enough into the future to rule out Toutatis ever slamming into Earth, so it is listed officially as a Potentially Hazardous Asteroid. NASA says it won't hit for at least the next six centuries.

Meanwhile, previous close approaches have allowed intriguing radar examinations of one of the oddest things in space.

"The vast majority of asteroids and all the planets spin about a single axis, like a football thrown in a perfect spiral," explains Scott Hudson of Washington State University. "But Toutatis tumbles like a flubbed pass."

The result is a lack of anything resembling a normal day or night on the giant, pockmarked space rock.

Instead of a fixed north pole, Toutatis' axis of rotation wanders around in two separate cycles of 5.4 and 7.3 Earth-days. Stars seen from any location on the asteroid "would crisscross the sky, never following the same path twice,'' Hudson says.

More study planned

Steven Ostro at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory has, with Hudson, studied Toutatis via radar on previous flybys. Ostro told SPACE.com that the population of near-Earth asteroids -- hundreds bigger than 0.6 miles (1 kilometer) have been found in the past six years or so -- are now known to come in "a zoo of shapes." And there are other asteroids that don't rotate on a single, main axis.

"But Toutatis remains the only non-principal-axis rotator in the solar system whose shape and spin state are well defined," Ostro said. More radar observations this year will try to further refine the spin rate and orbit.

There is more to learn. For starters, scientists also can't yet say if Toutatis has a hard surface or a thick layer of loose dirt similar to the Moon.

"I'd very much like to know whether Toutatis' strange shape and ponderously slow, wobbly rotation are the result of collisional breaking apart or a gentle merger of the asteroid's two lobes, and when the responsible phenomena happened," Ostro said.

Answers to all these big questions might require an as-yet-unplanned visit.

"Because of the radar investigations, our physical characterization of Toutatis is the best we have for any Potentially Hazardous Asteroid," Ostro said. "But a spacecraft rendezvous could tell us a great deal more, and I would love to see this happen."

Looking both ways

On Sept. 29, backyard skywatchers on Earth can find Toutatis, providing they know where to look.

Toutatis won't be visible to the unaided eye. Ordinary binoculars should be sufficient for spotting it if the sky is clear and dark, says Alan Harris, of the Space Science Institute in Boulder, CO.

"However, to actually know what you're seeing, a small telescope would be useful," Harris says. That will allow you to detect the slow motion of Toutatis against background stars. The asteroid will appear as a point of light, much like a star. It is too far for surface details to be visible.

It's also interesting to ponder what Earth would look like form Toutatis. Ostro points out a simple relationship between the distance of Toutatis at this close approach and the size of the Moon. Toutatis will be four times farther than the Moon; the Moon is about ¼ the size of Earth.

"If you were on Toutatis and looked at Earth during the close approach, the Earth would look as large as the Full Moon does to us."

This article is part of SPACE.com's weekly Mystery Monday series.

[Kurt_eh]

Boom now?

[generic_screenname]

No no. Now it's been pushed back to the 28th. The dust cloud's great uncle died.

[Kurt_eh]

So it was on the 8th then the 12th then the 18th now the 28th?

Can't they make up their freakin' minds?

[Jeff O'Connor]

So it was on the 8th then the 12th then the 18th now the 28th?

Can't they make up their freakin' minds?

When it finally happens they'll have pushed it back past when it actually occurs no doubt.

[Kurt_eh]

Hey, if they can predict where Toutis will be 600 years from now, you'd think they could predict this rock a little better.

Kinda knocks the wind out of their sails, when they keep changing their mind...

[Kurt_eh]

Hmmm, even though I'm a westcoaster, it's now the 19th on the eastcoast.

methinks these folks are starting to lose street cred... ;)

[trubador]

:innocent: as the weekend continues to pass :innocent:

[generic_screenname]

Are we dead yet?

[Mrelia]

Is it supposed to hit Florida?
If it is, then the Monkey-god will be pissed.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Is it supposed to hit Florida?
If it is, then the Monkey-god will be pissed.


...and I'll be dead!

[Selena]

Well folks, today is the 21 st and this was all supposed to end yesterday - the 20 th - so either we're all dead and the future reality (after-life) is the same as our realized reality (real life) or someone was pulling our proverbial appendages!

[generic_screenname]

Remember, kids: no one has the right to touch you in your proverbial appendages.

[Darth Buddha]

We'll likely never know for sure.

Say there was a 25% chance of an impact... and we lucked out. Would that be announced after the fact?

Although if we had a near miss, I'd expect one hell of a light show to follow... isn't a comet usually accompanied by smaller stellar debris?

Somebody with more astronomy than me (one intro course years ago) want to chime in and set the record straight?!

[grinner]

I have the feeling that this was just a great big hoax... as I mentioned earlier. I don't believe these things... just post them because they are interesting.

[Selena]

I just find it odd that last week or the week before, when all "astronomical eyes" were scanning skyward at Venus, that no-one looked anywhere else and saw anything noteworthy to talk about in the astronomical community.

I also attempted to find stories in the Aussie news about the house sized meteor that supposedly fell near Sydney and spoke with my son on the weekend too an no-one knew anything about it.

One day people will actually beileve what scripture says which is that no-one knows the time and date when the world will end

[trubador]

:rockband::sing:"...and I feel fiiiiiiiine...."

[generic_screenname]

I hope when the world ends they don't turn the apocolypse into a reality show, because that would really take away from the whole thing.

[Mike0812]

Well, someone hasta make some money from it...

So long as the world ends after PKWars, then I'm good :) . I'm not being very demanding I think...

[Selena]

Believe me I tried ... I tried to point out that you may as well buy your ScaperJirl/GuyScape calendars before the world ended, but few people took me up on it.

To quote John Crichton from episode 1 ...
"What is wrong with you people?" :thud: