Tv Guide Mini Spoilers

[scaperbuddy]

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Tv Guide the June 13th 2004 issue mentioned that On page 45 , "Dearly departed Zhaan ( Virginaia Hey), the much missed blue priestess, may resurface."

Also on Page 45 it mentioned, " The lilliputian tyrant, Rygel XVI, becomes unexpectantly pregnant- with Aeryn's baby!"

This article is on pages 44-45 and was written by Ileane Rudolph in this week's Tv Guide. It has 4 pics . So thanks Tv Guide and Ms Rudolph. Also there is a cute pic on pg. 5 of the table of contents of John and Aeryn getting cozy. So there are 5 pics.

[Roland]

Rygel gets pregnant? :eek3:

[Digger]

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Tv Guide the June 13th 2004 issue mentioned that On page 45 , "Dearly departed Zhaan ( Virginaia Hey), the much missed blue priestess, may resurface."

Also on Page 45 it mentioned, " The lilliputian tyrant, Rygel XVI, becomes unexpectantly pregnant- with Aeryn's baby!"

This article is on pages 44-45 and was written by Ileane Rudolph in this week's Tv Guide. It has 4 pics . So thanks Tv Guide and Ms Rudolph. Also there is a cute pic on pg. 5 of the table of contents of John and Aeryn getting cozy. So there are 5 pics.Zhaan coming back - hmmm, and we'e gonna be meeting Ginny in a couple of weeks at Escapade!

Rygel getting pregnant?!?!? - :spew:

All in All - Woo Hoo! Can't wait to get my copy in the next day or so!

[BaseLine]

Rygel pregnant!? Zhaan getting back!? I still have to wait for at least six months!?

[Mike@Pilots Chamber]

I think I echo everyone else's sentiments here when I say - Rygel pregnant?

[Ploppy the Kalish]

Rygel getting pregnant and Zhaan coming back. Hmmm.. a little hard to believe but I'm ok on Zhaan coming back.

[scaperbuddy]

It says Rygel gets pregnant unexpectedly with Aeryn's baby! It also has a pic that isn't labeled but I think it's Akna with Rygel and it says, "Is this any way to treat a pregnant potentate? A Scarran warrior holds Rygel VXI captive"

[I-am-so-Johns-girl]

Is the issue on the stands yet? Can I go out and buy some today??? :groove:

Girlie :curtsey:

[MySideYourSide]

Maybe... something happens and they need to move the baby out of Aeryn for some reason or another. It would explain why we see Claudia in varying degrees of pregnancy in the new promo pics.

As for Zhaan, there's a plethora of ways she can be reintroduced (she certainly wouldn't be the first character to come back from the dead). My money's on her returning in some flashback or non-corporeal way (like in John Quixote and UR).

[scaperbuddy]

I got mine in the mail today. I would think it would be on the stands soon since it starts Sunday. Its worth buying.

[scaperbuddy]

Your theory about the pregnancy makes sense. Maybe its for the safety of the baby since the Scaraans want it so badly. There was a pic though with looked like Akna and Rygel.

Zhaan could come back as a spirit. You know we never did see her ship explode. We assumed she died.

[scaperbuddy]

This article also mentions the mini will air in October for four hours.

[MySideYourSide]

This article also mentions the mini will air in October for four hours.
Yes!! We only have to wait four (give or take) months!
WHOO!! :D

[scaperbuddy]

Sounds good to me. When Sci-fi mentioned in its article December Iwas depressed. This makes me feel better! :sun:

[MySideYourSide]

Talk about "Good timing" (ha ha... ha). October is a whole lot better than December. People aren't going to be distracted by the holidays, and network sweeps won't be in full swing yet.

A little off-topic, but I'd be willing to bet money that Skiffy will pack the Mini with endless barrage of ads for the new "Battlestar" series. I mean, it was alright, but it wasn't that good (and the stupid cliffhanger at the end was really just... um... stupid).

But, back to Farscape (I really only mention "BG" because it means there's definitely hope for some kind of Farscape after the mini, whether it's another mini or something else), I'm definitely going to pick up some extra copies of this week's TV Guide. With a little bit of luck, I can use it to recruit some new scapers.

[atlantagirl]

Well, Rygel serving as a surrogate for baby Crichton might explain the pic with Aeryn looking worried over Rygel and him tossing his cookies (he's got morning sickness, HA!).

At Collector Con last year Ginny said 2 things about the mini:

1. "They've got us all on waivers" or something to that effect which indicated to me that she might be in it, and

2. That she'd "NEVER be willing to wear the blue make-up again" which made me think that unless they accommodated that she wouldn't appear as Zhaan even in flashbacks.

Of course, Ginny says A LOT of stuff ;) , so I took it all with a grain of salt. :D

BTW, here, at least, TV Guide generally hits the stands on Tuesdays. I'm bummed mine didn't show up in today's mail. :pout:

[AyuRocks]

Ohoh oh..

about Zhaan...

Spoilers ...erm.. .maybe.. .



Someone at the Burbank asked someone (Ginny? Rockne?... not important) if Zhaan would be coming back.. and Ricky (who was always in the audience) turned and looked towards the rest of the audience and mouthed "unrealized reality"... big.. big enough for me to see what he said.

Tell me I'm not the only one who caught that....


Ashley

[Digger]

I just thought of something. Didn't Rockne's story in the the last FS Magazine say that Rygel helped Aeryn deliver her baby? I's say this certainly qualifies as "help" :lol

[BritAngie]

The whole tv guide article has been posted at kansas here. http://forums.scaperoute.com/kansas/index.php?topic=17161.0

[Jeff O'Connor]

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There were some throw-around statements made during the chat with Brian Henson about Rygel's aquatic nature allowing him to go find the pieces of John and Aeryn in the beginning. It was a big joke to most but I always took it fairly seriously like a few others, and that might explain some accidental situation happening fairly early on, I don't know. It also explains the new pic (possibly) of Aeryn over Rygel who is spewing something out of some sort, as atlantagirl said.

[AyuRocks]

AHHHHHHHHH!! That pic... OMG OMG.. I need to get TV Guide.. NOW!

[Ploppy the Kalish]

Is That Picture What I Think It Is. Is That The...
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The Wedding! Omg Omg Omg Omg Omgomgmgogmogmmogomgogm Can"t Frelling Wait!

[Athlantis]

hehe poor Rygel, now he has to feed four stomachs (assuming he's not having twins!) well that would explain why in the pics Aeryn appears pregnat in some of them and in others she has flat stomach. Zhaan comming back????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ah!!!!!!
so wonderful news!!! thanks for the info

[Digger]

Hey, with the possibility that we might have Zhaan coming back (even if only briefly) will that mean the Pisher officially has no reason to live? I mean if he can't complain that Zhaan's not in the mini, what's left for him to bitch about?

[Athlantis]

Is That Picture What I Think It Is. Is That The...
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The Wedding! Omg Omg Omg Omg Omgomgmgogmogmmogomgogm Can"t Frelling Wait!

what picture????? where's the url where where where wherererererere...sorry got carried away, anyway... :rolleyes: where's the pic???

[AyuRocks]

The whole tv guide article has been posted at kansas here. http://forums.scaperoute.com/kansas/index.php?topic=17161.0

Piccy is there :D:D:D:D:D:D:D BIG SPOILER

Ashley

[Athlantis]

thank you thank you!!!!

[Red]

will that mean the Pisher officially has no reason to live?
*snerk* :lol

[AyuRocks]

Pisher was glemphy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tedbragg1]

Well, y'know some fish and aquatic mammals use the male to bring the babies to term...makes sense, actually.

Bet Ryge didn't like it too much...

How the FRELL do they pull this one off?!? Funny. Strange, but typical of FS.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Pisher was glemphy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed. :rollin:

[Red]

Pisher was glemphy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
amen, sister

[angel8]

Did anyone read the part of the article (Possible spoiler)



























that Ben Browder could star in a spin-off? What does this mean? Will eveyone else not be on it? Or only certain people? Ahhhhh!!!! (Not that I wouldn't take a spin-off).

[MySideYourSide]

Well, they need to throw Rygel a baby shower now!
But what do you get for the Dominar that has everything? :shrug:

Wow, that pic from TV Guide is awesome! Stark is, of course, standing to the side looking perfectly creepy. It looks like a good ol' fashioned "Black Leather" PK wedding. ;)

[Jeff O'Connor]

Did anyone read the part of the article (Possible spoiler)



























that Ben Browder could star in a spin-off? What does this mean? Will eveyone else not be on it? Or only certain people? Ahhhhh!!!! (Not that I wouldn't take a spin-off).







Maybe only certain people, or maybe just the miniseries will bring so many changes (like no longer having Moya or something else tragic, or something, whatever it be) that it would call for a new title to a show that hasn't had new episodes in some three years anyway, not counting the miniseries, and projecting into the future where it would start.

[MySideYourSide]

Considering Farscape's tendency to do radical things, a "happy ending" for Crichton and Aeryn would definitely warrant some big changes in order to send things back into chaos. A spin-off might be a real possibility...

[angel8]

Yeah, something tragic. That is what I am wondering (and slightly worried) about.

[fermicat]

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That picture of Crichton and Pilot got me worried.... Pilot looks so incredibly sad. Makes me wonder why.

[MySideYourSide]

Well, a tragedy would cetainly let them write Zhaan back in...
Hmmm... Ginny could also return as a new character, of course...

You know, spin-off possibilities would make for some really interesting fan fic over the next few months...

[MySideYourSide]

That picture of Crichton and Pilot got me worried.... Pilot looks so incredibly sad. Makes me wonder why.
But can you honestly remember the last time Pilot was really happy? ;)

[Jeff O'Connor]

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That picture of Crichton and Pilot got me worried.... Pilot looks so incredibly sad. Makes me wonder why.

I wonder if anyone on this board in their right minds has enough courage to actually say it... what would warrant the two of them together like that, what one person could possibly fall, to have the two of them separate, away from the rest of the team for a moment, to share, but a moment, together... and how perhaps John Crichton could "go on" into a spin-off show... I... oh my...

[Digger]

Well, they need to throw Rygel a baby shower now!
But what do you get for the Dominar that has everything? :shrug:
I'm sure he's appreciate a nice big plate of Hynerian Marjules.

[Digger]

I wonder if anyone on this board in their right minds has enough courage to actually say it... what would warrant the two of them together like that, what one person could possibly fall, to have the two of them separate, away from the rest of the team for a moment, to share, but a moment, together... and how perhaps John Crichton could "go on" into a spin-off show... I... oh my...Don't even go there Jeff. I'm not sure I could take it.

[MySideYourSide]

I wonder if anyone on this board in their right minds has enough courage to actually say it... what would warrant the two of them together like that, what one person could possibly fall, to have the two of them separate, away from the rest of the team for a moment, to share, but a moment, together... and how perhaps John Crichton could "go on" into a spin-off show... I... oh my...
That would almost be not shocking enough. After all, Aeryn's already died. Twice.

[angel8]

This is going to drive everyone crazy (but in a good way) for the next few months. After living through the Angel ending, I would believe anything (bad or good) at this point.

[Farsight]

Well, they couldn't really continue the same Farscape series, since other networks wouldn't want a 5th season of a show, and they'd be crazy to ever put another series on SciFi. Additionally, a Farscape spin-off would probably cost too much for a tiny network like SciFi to afford. A spin-off would give them a good chance to start fresh, with familiar characters and places, but a new story that the uninitiated could jump in on w/o confusion. IMO, it's the only realistic way Farscape could return to TV in series form.

Saying the spin-off would feature "Crichton in command" makes me think the miniseries may finally force him to pick a side, when the s**t hits the fan... :)

[AyuRocks]

I was just thinking that.... why make a live action spin-off instead of more of the original?

This is all starting to freak me out.

[chani]

I wonder if anyone on this board in their right minds has enough courage to actually say it... what would warrant the two of them together like that, what one person could possibly fall, to have the two of them separate, away from the rest of the team for a moment, to share, but a moment, together... and how perhaps John Crichton could "go on" into a spin-off show... I... oh my...

I think i just figuered out something else, which I don´t like either.... :eek:

... and what I am not going to say... :eek:

[Hmpf]

I am pretty sure at least one or two of the crew will die (come on... it may be the end of the show, for all the writers know, and they *do* like to shock us!) - but I don't for a second believe Aeryn will die. Yes, the writers love drama and tragedy... but they are also shippers, and Rockne's story in the magazine betrays a desire for a happy ending of sorts for John and Aeryn.

Just because the article says a spin-off might be led by Ben Browder does not mean Claudia Black is not going to be in it. (Nor does it necessarily mean that none of the other characters is going to be in it - they might integrate one or two or three, who knows.) She hasn't exactly been getting a lot of work recently, so it's not as if they had to write her out due to inavailability, and I am sure TPTB know she's one of the main attractions of the show.

[Leviathan]

Oh my gosh, major spoilers indeed! Rygel carries A&J's baby??!! LOLOL!! How the heck is that gonna work? :eek: Hope it doesn't come out lookin' like him! :rolleyes: If it's true, that is a huge spoiler. I wonder why they were able to tell us??

Oh, and a picture of the wedding! A leather wedding!! I think my heart is about to burst! I can't take much more awesome FS news. wait...who the hell said that... yes I can.

And I just love the part about the possible spin-off with Ben in command. :love: I'm all for that, as long as Claudia is in it too. Heck, even if Claudia isn't in it, I'm there. ;)

[Hope]

Henson did say the mini should tie up the loose threads from the previous seasons, but he also said it would end with new threads opened up. Maybe those new threads will be the what he calls a spin off. It could have the same characters but a different theme. Maybe no more Crichton running from his enemies, but something all new. :cool:


Hey! It sounded like a good idea earlier. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Mike0812]

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There were some throw-around statements made during the chat with Brian Henson about Rygel's aquatic nature allowing him to go find the pieces of John and Aeryn in the beginning. It was a big joke to most but I always took it fairly seriously like a few others, and that might explain some accidental situation happening fairly early on, I don't know. It also explains the new pic (possibly) of Aeryn over Rygel who is spewing something out of some sort, as atlantagirl said.

Hmmmmm, http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/headscratch.gif perhaps as Rygel was collecting the "pieces", he accidentally swallowed Baby Sun-Crichton...

Seriously, IF this is true, it would be a cool, typical Farscape twist, where nothing is as it seems, and a seemingly ordinary event like a pregnancy becomes extraordinary-FARSCAPE Style...Bring it on, I say :cool:

Mike

[Mike0812]

Did anyone read the part of the article (Possible spoiler)



























that Ben Browder could star in a spin-off? What does this mean? Will eveyone else not be on it? Or only certain people? Ahhhhh!!!! (Not that I wouldn't take a spin-off).

I don't think it means anything much at this point...it's all just speculation and possible options. In any case, I personally don't think it would change much in terms of the characters or the stories. Maybe it will just be repackeged differently, with a different theme and/or tone. After all, one of the major themes in Farscape was about John trying to get back to Earth (which took more or less 4 seasons). Since that's more or less resolved, the other major theme involves him making a life for himself, his family and friends in the UTs.

And I seriously doubt that anything is gonna happen to Aeryn or John. The writers, producers, actors are all SHIPPERS. I don't see that changing in any practical level. Threatened, for sure, tested, hell yeah, but I doubt anything permanent. All JMHO, of course :D

Mike

[Digger]

After all, one of the major themes in Farscape was about John trying to get back to Earth (which took more or less 4 seasons). Since that's more or less resolved, the other major theme involves him making a life for himself, his family and friends in the UTs. Good point Mike. And such a series could be written to be more episodic, which Networks generally like better than long ongoing arcs.

[Martincore]

right... at the moment, with all the photos at farscapeworld and the article in TV Guide, "spoiler" just doesn't seem to cover it any longer... omg!
I'm just thinking, with all this stuff they have already told us, they must really have some goodies waiting!

[DRD 1812]

Hee! Spoilers, yay! Rygel being preggerz? Now that is something I want to see.

[Antrobus]

Well, y'know some fish and aquatic mammals use the male to bring the babies to term...makes sense, actually.

Do I smell a Noranti "plan gone wrong" here?

[scaperbuddy]

The article also said Sikozu and Scorpy are bonded. That's no real surpise. The article also gave us Scapers credit for bringing the show back! I hope everyone is out getting Tv Guides.

[K'Daryn]

Okay, I don't care if Rygel carries J & A's kid, as along as the child returns to Aeryn before the child arrives. I couldn't see Rygel giving birth to Aeryn's child. I'm sorry but I don't think that will fly or even work. I don't think they would say Zhaan might come back, and she doesn't. I can't think of how Zhaan would return, but Zhaan's return would be awesome. I wish that we knew whether it was December or October! Which is it? Anyone know?

[MySideYourSide]

Sik and Scorp are bonded, huh?
Hmmm... based on Sik's new look, it looks more like bondage... ;) (Sorry, I couldn't resist).

[AyuRocks]

Erm... did you look at the pictures of Aeryn?

[Red]

October, K'Daryn

[MySideYourSide]

Erm... did you look at the pictures of Aeryn?
We definitely see several varying degrees of pregnancy (including what looks like "not pregnant") in those Aeryn pics.
There's one where she might be in labor, but she might also just be in a lot pain...

[scaperbuddy]

This article says the mini will be in October. If you think about it. We never did see Zhaan's ship explode or anything so she could come back. Her ship just disappeared right? They probably are in bondage. Haha!!

I would think Rygel would only carry the baby temporarily. Looks like Akna captured him in that one pic and he was preggy in that pic.

[scaperbuddy]

Aeryn does look like she is in different stages of pregnancy in the pics.

[MySideYourSide]

Rygel definitely looks like he put on a good deal of weight in some of the pics, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was carrying the baby.
We saw Zhaan sorta disperse, but that was about it. We also know to characters like her and Stark, their corporeal forms aren't particularly important in the long run. We also, also know that the Leviathan deity (Guyheanu, or however you spell that) entrusted Moya's security in Zhaan (during the LATP trilogy).

[AyuRocks]

I realize that, but if one is going to speculate (which at this point is all we can do).. seeing her normal in one pic that appears to be in moya before fighting, looking over rygel, and big in one where she's toting around a gun (battle)...one appears to come before the other...

Anyway.. as I've been saying all along to a stream of questions basically impossible to answer.. OCTOBER.. PATIENCE...

[scaperbuddy]

I think it's very possible the way Zhaaan departed and given the being she was for her to come back. Rygel did look big that pic. Looks like Akna is patting or feeling his belly.

[Angus]

We also know to characters like her and Stark, their corporeal forms aren't particularly important in the long run.
Well, that's not quite true, I don't think. Stark and his people are incorporeal, however Delvians are pretty much, you know, plants, so pretty much solid and corporeal. I would guess that if we see Zhaan it'll be in a flashback, or maybe an unrealized reality.

[MySideYourSide]

I'm thrilled the mini's going to be in October, but it means we should really see more Farscape reruns on Skiffy starting very, very soon (and we are, but it would still be really nice to see those 11:00 p.m. CDT eps to return, or something else in the evening like that). And, by July, we should start to see the occassional promo on Skiffy.

Of course, knowing Skiffy's track record, I'm not sure we'll see either of those things happen when they should. I've seen plenty of ads for Five Days to Midnight in the past couple of weeks, but I didn't see much before that. They should (hopefully) realize that PK War is worth a whole lot of hype and promotion. If it's successful, it means that Skiffy may get more Farscape (in some form) in the future.

[faustus]

um huh? that's it TV guide must die!
hollly Frell

[Angus]

Tom Vitale said they weren't planning on airing Farscape at anything like a reasonable hour or in order prior to the mini, so there's no real hope there.

[MySideYourSide]

Well, that's not quite true, I don't think. Stark and his people are incorporeal, however Delvians are pretty much, you know, plants, so pretty much solid and corporeal. I would guess that if we see Zhaan it'll be in a flashback, or maybe an unrealized reality.
I see your point (although I'll mention that Banniks are corporeal, but Stykera aren't), but considering the power of Zhaan's spritual side, I think she could come back if necessary.

[scaperbuddy]

Perhaps also they will have more daytime rotations as well. I'm sure they would show season 4 episodes close to the mini air time to set up the mood and catch people up.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Tom Vitale said they weren't planning on airing Farscape at anything like a reasonable hour or in order prior to the mini, so there's no real hope there.

That's really, really stupid of them.

[MySideYourSide]

Farscape's been on the Daytime rotation a couple times in the past few months, and the frequency could definitely pick up.
But, it seems like Skiffy is much more concerned with promoting "Battlestar Galactica" (which won't even air until 2005!) than Farscape (two links on the SciFi.com homepage versus zero).

[scaperbuddy]

Maybe the goddess or Moya's makers will bring Zhaan back. Maybe she never really died and she went somewhere and healed. We never saw her dead body.

[AyuRocks]

I'm hoping so. I've got people that have been telling me that they'll watch it during summer vacation. I sent them the schedule ATM and there is like one daily rotation, and the rest are at 3, 4, or 5 in the morning. I don't care if they put it in "prime" but geez, at least have more daily rotations!

[scaperbuddy]

July 1st there is an 8 hour daily rotation. That's one for starters! That's eight episodes. Maybe august will be better.

[Digger]

That's really, really stupid of them.Write them and tell them that, like I did. But in a good way. Don't emphasize the stupidty. Emphasise how showing FS at better times leading up to the mini will get more people interested in the show. The more people who become interested, the more will watch. And that means better ratings. And that means more Advertising Revenue for skiffy. It's to their advantage, in other words, to show FS more to maximize their profit on the miniseries.

[Angus]

although I'll mention that Banniks are corporeal, but Stykera aren't
No. that's not right. Baniks have energy forms, Stykera are Baniks that can cross souls over to death.

Edited to say that I take that back. I can't find any place that specified one vs the other. Stark says that his is corporeal form is just containing his true self, but I don't see quite where he specifies that that's as a Stykera vs a regular Banik. Can you point out to me where that is?

[AyuRocks]

Huh? All I'm getting for July first 3 unnamed episodes 3am-6am..

July 2nd it says daily rotation at 8am... but that's it for the daily rotations until July 29..

[Jeff O'Connor]

Write them and tell them that, like I did. But in a good way. Don't emphasize the stupidty. Emphasise how showing FS at better times leading up to the mini will get more people interested in the show. The more people who become interested, the more will watch. And that means better ratings. And that means more Advertising Revenue for skiffy. It's to their advantage, in other words, to show FS more to maximize their profit on the miniseries.

Yeah, I know... trust me, I'm very communicative and friendly in any form of contact I have with just about anyone, no matter how much I may emphasize the stupidity of this particular situation. Guh... it ticks me off though. I plan on writing to them soon.

[Angus]

But, it seems like Skiffy is much more concerned with promoting "Battlestar Galactica" (which won't even air until 2005!) than Farscape (two links on the SciFi.com homepage versus zero).

Skiffy owns Battlestar Galactica. It doesn't own Farscape. :dunno:

[scaperbuddy]

The daily rotation is July 2nd at 8am you're right. i got my dates mixed up. I'm sorry. It's been a long day. You know, I didn't even like Battlestar Galactica. At least not the new one anyway.

[AyuRocks]

How long is it going for? It only lists one episode.. usually it'll list them all

I'm hating the schedulebot right about now ...grrr...

Oh yeah, and I'm not to fond of the schedulers either!

[scaperbuddy]

In John and Aeryn's wedding pic, Aeryn doesn't look like she is pregnant. Maybe it is the angle.

[faustus]

No. that's not right. Baniks have energy forms, Stykera are Baniks that can cross souls over to death.

Edited to say that I take that back. I can't find any place that specified one vs the other. Stark says that his is corporeal form is just containing his true self, but I don't see quite where he specifies that that's as a Stykera vs a regular Banik. Can you point out to me where that is?
only some Baniks are Stykera.

[MySideYourSide]

No. that's not right. Baniks have energy forms, Stykera are Baniks that can cross souls over to death.

Edited to say that I take that back. I can't find any place that specified one vs the other. Stark says that his is corporeal form is just containing his true self, but I don't see quite where he specifies that that's as a Stykera vs a regular Banik. Can you point out to me where that is?
According to SciFi.com/farscape, Stykera are capable of existing in noncorporeal forms. Regular Baniks are just considered a subserviant slave race.

Edited because I didn't see your edit when I posted:
Yes, the "Lifeform Encounters" section of Skiffy's Farcape site specifically says that Stykera can exist in noncorporeal forms, not all Baniks.

[Angus]

only some Baniks are Stykera.

Yes. I know.

According to SciFi.com/farscape,
Oh. So never in an episode, then?

[scaperbuddy]

It looks like the rotation for July 2nd is 8hrs long because I just flicked over to the Sciffy schedule and it lists Farscape at 8am and Roswell at 4pm. So that means the rotation will last 8hrs. The names of the episodes aren't there though.

[AyuRocks]

Thanks! :D I was just looking at listings for farscape...

That site sucks >.<

[scaperbuddy]

You're welcome. I usually just type in Farscape too. But sometimes I look at the daily schedule. I watch Star Trek too.

[faustus]

Oh. So never in an episode, then?
yes in season 1 when John and Stark were in the cell in the gammik base Stark told him what he was.

[Angus]

yeah, I remember the episode and he talks about the banik slave race and how they can hide thoughts, but he doesn't talk about being an energy being. He does that in The Ugly Truth, but even then he just says that he's an energy being but he doesnt' specify if that's because he's specifically Stykera. That's all. I couldn't remember him specifying in an episode.

[faustus]

your going to make me watch it again

[scaperbuddy]

I need to watch it again too. I'm lost about the Stykera part.

[SabaceanBabe]

Well, that's not quite true, I don't think. Stark and his people are incorporeal, however Delvians are pretty much, you know, plants, so pretty much solid and corporeal. I would guess that if we see Zhaan it'll be in a flashback, or maybe an unrealized reality.


Hmmmm.... But, if you think about it, if you put a piece of a plant (like a leaf) in water or dirt, it'll sometimes sprout roots and become a full-grown, full-blown plant, just like the original. So, if a big enough piece of Zhaan...

I'm just sayin'... :D

[SabaceanBabe]

In John and Aeryn's wedding pic, Aeryn doesn't look like she is pregnant. Maybe it is the angle.

You're right about her not looking pregnant, but I think they're right at the beginning of the mini, on Qujaga, and she just isn't far enough along to show.

But that's just me. Your mileage may vary.

[Athlantis]

Question: what do you think the baby's last name is going to be??? cause Talyn's last name wasn't Sun, it was Xhalax's, there for Aeryn Sun. So I'm wondering will Aeryn accept the baby's last name is Crichton or for the matter, will John accept having his child and not giving him his last name????
just wondering cause as far as farscape last names go, it would be Baby Sun and NOT Baby Crichton

[faustus]

they might name it jack

[scaperbuddy]

Aeryn has been learning human customs maybe she will take Crichtons last name to please him. Who knows? She was trying to learn English to make him happy and fit in.

[RydraWong]

Or maybe he'll take her last name to please her! It could go either way ...

[faustus]

or it could be called Crichton-Sun or Sun-Crichton

[scaperbuddy]

This could be intersting. I hope they tell us her name after she marries.

[Athlantis]

This could be intersting. I hope they tell us her name after she marries.

I'm with you! I'd preffer Aeryn keeps her name though.
As for who pleases who I think it'll depend on who is mad at who in the mini (not trying to sound pesimist but as all of you know TPTB always finds a way to keep them appart and at the end...well not ALWAYS AT THE END, reunite them)

[Digger]

I vote we name him Ploppy. Ploppy the baby. Or something.

Well, someone had to say it!

[faustus]

thank you D'argo

[jerseygirl]

It's all good...all good. But for me, one of the most exciting tidbits was the mention of BB starring in the possible spinoff. More John Crichton! Gimme more John Crichton!

[Digger]

thank you D'argo :D

[Athlantis]

I vote we name him Ploppy. Ploppy the baby. Or something.

Well, someone had to say it!


LMEO:lol
one of the best bloopers ever! :rollin:

[faustus]

It's all good...all good. But for me, one of the most exciting tidbits was the mention of BB starring in the possible spinoff. More John Crichton! Gimme more John Crichton!
well if John is on a new show I'd expect Ms Sun to be there as well

[Nicola]

Aeryn has been learning human customs maybe she will take Crichtons last name to please him. Who knows? She was trying to learn English to make him happy and fit in.

Well, taking your husbands last name is not a universal earth custom. There are plenty of cultures that don't do that.

And don't forget - they won't be living on earth, they will be living in the Unchartered Territories. I imagine that if the topic even comes up Aeryn and John will do what is most convenient at the time... not what the audience would want them to do.

Farscape never does that.

[faustus]

all I see is that JC and AS will keep there own names.

[Nicola]

And that will probably be what is most convenient at the time :D

[faustus]

Bingo, give the young lady the fluffy dog

[Adam L Garcia]

I highly doubt the topic of whether Aeryn will keep her name will come up. I do hope the name the baby (if its a boy) J.T., (Jack Talyn) after both there fathers.

Adam

[faustus]

what if it's a girl?

[blueaeryn]

Come on, if it is a girl her name has to be Hope.

BA

[faustus]

that is an awsome name

[Adam L Garcia]

Hope.

That makes sense.

But we'll find out in Oct.

[Kalliope]

well if John is on a new show I'd expect Ms Sun to be there as well

Exactly. I can't even imagine the new show without Aeryn.

[blueaeryn]

You know, I was thinking about he wording of that statement. Brian Henson said with Browder in command. You could take that as John Cricthon, but how could you call it a spin-off when Farscape began as a story about John Crichton being shot through a wormhole. After I thought about it, I got to thinking that maybe Brian meant Browder in charge of the whole production.

BA

[AyuRocks]

hmmm.. cool! like maybe an executive producer credit or something? I'm liking that better..

you know.. I'm still really wishing that they'd do an anime! Jeff and I talk abou that for a bit the other day.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Exactly. I can't even imagine the new show without Aeryn.

Honestly, I can. I just don't think it'd too very well.

You know, I was thinking about he wording of that statement. Brian Henson said with Browder in command. You could take that as John Cricthon, but how could you call it a spin-off when Farscape began as a story about John Crichton being shot through a wormhole. After I thought about it, I got to thinking that maybe Brian meant Browder in charge of the whole production.

Well that's always possible, but Browder has recently mentioned "John Crichton is the role of a lifetime" (I don't think it was that exact statement but something to the effect) and "I'd be a fool not to continue with him." So I sort've doubt it since it seems as if there's mention now even by him about continuing the Crichton character.

you know.. I'm still really wishing that they'd do an anime! Jeff and I talk abou that for a bit the other day.

Yeah. Our concept was for something that wouldn't diviate from the story but rather be a one-season, 26-episode-esque type thing that lots of animes do -- and since the first and second seasons aren't nearly as episode-by-episode as the majority of the third and fourth with every single element, my idea was for an anime based throughout either of the two seasons, involving some stand-alone, one-episode adventures not huge enough to impact the story so that it'd be in keeping and whatnot.

[blueaeryn]

Yeah, but he could do both couldn't he?

BA

[Adam L Garcia]

I don't think there'll be a spinoff. A movie is more likely. If Serenity does well, it'll be assured. I wont see Serenity, cause I hate Whedon, but let me tell you this: once the miniseries blows the ratings out of the water, and Serenity does well in the theatres, they'll be a rush to pick up sci-fi TV properties to create new franchises, and we'll see a Farscape film in the near future.

[CeRell]

The last I heard was that it was more likely the mini would be sent out to the big screen...Has a TV movie ever been taken to the big screen? That would be so Farscape...but I'm hoping/praying that it'll be all new material...

[so-much-4-sanity]

yeah, I remember the episode and he talks about the banik slave race and how they can hide thoughts, but he doesn't talk about being an energy being. He does that in The Ugly Truth, but even then he just says that he's an energy being but he doesnt' specify if that's because he's specifically Stykera. That's all. I couldn't remember him specifying in an episode.

In HM, when Stark talks about being a Banik, he mentions that what makes him a slave is also what makes him special to Scorpy and he indicated that it was his mask and that he was able to hide thoughts and emotions. In TUT we learn he is made up primarily of energy and his corporeal form is just one of many forms. It isn't until the LGM trilogy that we begin to learn about him being Stykera, that he in tune with the dying and that he can cross people over who are "on the verge". We've never seen another Banik on the show so there's no real evidence that all Banik's are energy beings or not; however, Stark's character development seems to indicate that Banik's all where masks, so why where a mask if you don't have to keep your energies in check?

Of course, this may be a consistency problem. They may have decided to enhance Stark's uniqueness as they brought him on as a major player, as opposed to a two ep character in Season 1.

[Athlantis]

what if it's a girl?

I vote for Xhalax! (though I dout if it's a girl she is going to be named with it)
with all the "You live for me".

[Jeff O'Connor]

I vote for Xhalax! (though I dout if it's a girl she is going to be named with it)
with all the "You live for me".

Talyn, the ship, gave Moya more sense of purpose and made Crais a complete man.

Xhalax, the daughter, gave John and Aeryn Crichton a reason to live for tomorrow.

Beautiful, simply beautiful.

[Athlantis]

Talyn, the ship, gave Moya more sense of purpose and made Crais a complete man.

Xhalax, the daughter, gave John and Aeryn Crichton a reason to live for tomorrow.

Beautiful, simply beautiful.

You think? :D
not to mention it also represents the daughter-mother relationship Aeryn never was able to have with her mother, therefor, a new begining and new chances.

[Doc Holiday]

THis is fantastic news. Rygel situation is going to be frelling hilarious. October is also great. Cannot wait, I just wish that skiffy would play seasons 3 and 4.

[faustus]

for the new show. I see it being the John and Aeryn show on moya. going around making things right.

now for the name of Xhalax for J&A Daughter! It'd be an intresting choice, Aeryn would be reminded of her mother all the time, so that'd make he a better mother.

[Darth Buddha]

A thought, Digger... while we oldsters probably can't get away with this, some of the new folks could probably plead for one complete rotation so they can "catch up on all they missed" as late comers to Farscape. That'd suggest new eyeballs (which in the case of newbies to the site, is probably true).

[jay]

Nothing against a feature film or a spin-off series, but are those the only options available? I guess by this point a fifth season would be too much to hope for, but when Peacekeeper War brings in strong ratings, doesn't anyone else think that The Sci-Fi Channel would consider another mini-series? Personally, I would prefer to see the series continue in this manner. And, here's why. First, Sci-Fi has had some success with mini-series over the last few years; and though they may not own Farscape, it's still their premier pride and joy. Second, the mini-series format wouldn't drastically alter the premise or the way the story is presented as opposed to a feature or a spin-off. Finally, if three more 4-hour mini-series and a 6-hour mini-series were made over the course of the next two or three years (and added to Peacekeeper War) that would equal a season's worth of episodes. The next best thing to a fifth season.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Nothing against a feature film or a spin-off series, but are those the only options available? I guess by this point a fifth season would be too much to hope for, but when Peacekeeper War brings in strong ratings, doesn't anyone else think that The Sci-Fi Channel would consider another mini-series? Personally, I would prefer to see the series continue in this manner. And, here's why. First, Sci-Fi has had some success with mini-series over the last few years; and though they may not own Farscape, it's still their premier pride and joy. Second, the mini-series format wouldn't drastically alter the premise or the way the story is presented as opposed to a feature or a spin-off. Finally, if three more 4-hour mini-series and a 6-hour mini-series were made over the course of the next two or three years (and added to Peacekeeper War) that would equal a season's worth of episodes. The next best thing to a fifth season.

Although things look very gloomy for a fifth season, if there's one thing Farscape has taught me, it's this. "Never say never."

Although I highly doubt it, Peacekeeper Wars could become a bridge between two seasons of the standard show for all we know. :shrug:

[faustus]

I personally think that season 5 is gone farscape will not continue as before. There will either be a new series or Brian has been talking about a feature film.

[Jeff O'Connor]

I personally think that season 5 is gone farscape will not continue as before. There will either be a new series or Brian has been talking about a feature film.

I agree. I'm just saying that there's always a sliver of a chance that everything in the universe that seems highly unlikely could happen. I'm just a weirdo. :shrug:

[faustus]

well we did get more farscape. I guess anything can happen :D

[Jeff O'Connor]

well we did get more farscape. I guess anything can happen :D

I'm just a big buff on the whole "Unrealized Realities" concept, the theories behind it stemmed since well before Farscape, is all. :D

[faustus]

interesting concept

[Darth Buddha]

We'll see... will the fan base be so active to get yet MORE Farscape in any form as it has been to date?

Will FMD be able to move things toward a new goal, or will backbiting from places high and low disapate the inertia gained thus far? Will a new site arise if the mods of this forum aren't up to the challenge?

Would the fan base be as excited about a spin-off as they were about closure to the original series?

Time will tell.

[RydraWong]

Nothing against a feature film or a spin-off series, but are those the only options available?

It sounds right now as if Brian Henson and the creative people on the show would actually prefer to go for a feature film or spin-off.

Judging by interviews and chats, they basically used the planned season 5 arc for the miniseries, so now they're looking to go off in different directions.

And there's something else worth considering - which is that doing a feature film, or a spin-off series that could go to a different channel, would be far less dependent on SciFi's whims. Henson's and Hallmark got the miniseries made completely independently, without having a US buyer upfront - they wouldn't have been able to do that if they were making "season 5".

[Doc Holiday]

Zhaan back is cool. I only wish that Talyn and Crais would return.

[DamonAO]

It sounds right now as if Brian Henson and the creative people on the show would actually prefer to go for a feature film or spin-off.

I think that those people still holding out hope for a new season farscape as in season 5+ need to rethink the plausability. Who would pick up said show and why would they wan't to pik up a series that was the flagship show of another network? I think it's pretty clear that SciFi isn't interested.

[jay]

Well, I'm sure Sci-Fi's interest could change if the ratings are good enough.

[Athlantis]

Well, I'm sure Sci-Fi's interest could change if the ratings are good enough.

Agree. It is a fact Farscape was very expensive and since the rating weren't AS HIGHT AS SCI-CHANNEL WANTED IT TO BE if by some chance the mini gets a high ratings (which IS going to happen) there's a good chance they reconsider the option

by Doc Holiday
Zhaan back is cool. I only wish that Talyn and Crais would return.

You are SO not the only one!!!

[Nicola]

We'll see... will the fan base be so active to get yet MORE Farscape in any form as it has been to date?

Will FMD be able to move things toward a new goal, or will backbiting from places high and low disapate the inertia gained thus far?

[snip]

Would the fan base be as excited about a spin-off as they were about closure to the original series?

Time will tell.

I really hope so.

[Adam L Garcia]

I'm still gonna argue that there will be more likely a movie than a spinoff.

Farscape without John?

Nah.

Adam

[Adam L Garcia]

UNLESS, of course, the spinoff is just a new chapter in the story of John. THEN there would be a spinoff.

However a movie would just be frelling awesome.