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Selena

06-08-2004, 09:07 AM

WARNING - RANT FOLLOWS

I'm probably going to get lynched, but I have to get this off my chest ... I am really sick of the stream of threads that are either full of PK War spoilers or are whining about what the mini isn't going to be.

Where is the enthusiasm for the campaign we are fighting? I sometimes get the impression that many are of the opinion that this is it! PK War is the end of the story and there will be no more Farscape. PK War is NOT the end of the story. It’s the beginning of Farscape’s future!

Where are the hundreds of new FMD members who have signed up over the last few months? It's great to sign up, but it's even better to be actively involved. Yes I love to play the games, but I also am checking out the campaigning threads at the same time and we need the newbies to give us their ideas – we need their freshness and their new blood! Some of us are battle weary and need their enthusiasm to lift us up and inspire us.

Where are the great new ideas? We are a brilliant group and we're not brain storming like we were 18 months ago – and we should be. There are masses of us who are on school vacation wondering what to do with our time. This is an opportunity to get waist deep in the promotional campaign.

I get the impression that the majority of the work is being done by the same core group of "old faithfuls” who have been around since the beginning of this campaign. Now I may be wrong but I suspect I'm not.

The momentum at present is akin to a stalled vehicle being pushed up a hill by a bunch of old ladies.
We should all be 100% behind the campaigning and it should be full steam ahead as we have a very tiny window of opportunity that is rapidly disappearing. We sure can't leave it to Skiffy to handle, as we already know by their track record that they can't be trusted to do it.

I'm an idealist and so I'd like to see the whiners stop whining about what PK War isn't going to be and throw their full support behind the few who are trying to find new and creative ways of getting the info about the mini to as many new people as possible.

I'd also like to see the enthusiasm those who are posting the spoilers have, redirected into the campaign to get the word out. I for one don't want any more spoilers. I want PK War to wow me as the story unfolds on the screen.

I would love to see us mount a full frontal assault of campaigning unlike anything that sci-fi fandom has ever seen.

grinner

06-08-2004, 09:14 AM

what she said...

faustus

06-08-2004, 09:18 AM

one thread would have been sufficient

Digger

06-08-2004, 09:37 AM

It certainly is not the end! In every interview I have seen with Brian Henson he has said that if the mini does well he'd like to do more Farscape; theatrical movies, more miniseries or spin-off series. Every interview. The financing for the miniseries came about because people were impressed with the show and with the passion we showed for it. We need to keep up what we've been doing and do even more to give them a good reason to help finance future installments of Farscape, in whatever form it might take.

JrMissToughChick

06-08-2004, 09:43 AM

I am trying to remain optimistic. :D

tribsaint

06-08-2004, 09:55 AM

I-am-so-Johns-girl

06-08-2004, 10:11 AM

I love you Selena! :love2: :smooch: :hug2:
I was just checking out the new posts and thinking that a majority of the posts were OT and not campaign related with new ideas! I totally agree with your rant :applaud: :yes: At first I thought Angie's idea of the TV Guide ad was way beyond us but now I'm reconsidering it's merit. It may be money well spent if we can capture the interest of more Neilsen boxes? Lets get some more frelling eyeballs! :eye: :eye: :eye: :eye: :eye: :eye:

Girlie :curtsey:

JrMissToughChick

06-08-2004, 10:23 AM

Although I still would like to see them on talk shows :D

recklesshumor

06-08-2004, 10:47 AM

I agree. I'm working on the talk show front.

La Bomba

06-08-2004, 10:55 AM

I'm just staying away from the negativity...from every moan from any random fan, I've heard great things from the people behind the scenes that actually KNOW how it's going to turn out. So I'll let the mini speak for itself. :D

I must not be looking at the right threads, because everyone I've seen is totally stoked! I know I am.
You're right, Selena. All of us could be doing more to further the cause. I know for me it's harder now to focus on because we got the mini and the praise from Henson and company for inspiring them. It's easier now to just bask in our victory. I don't think we're as hungry for it as we were, collectively.
I will make a concerted effort to try to involve myself in at least one of our ongoing efforts. Money's tight and so is time, but I'm sure I can find something to do in some small way.
If you have any suggestions for me Selena, I'd be all ears. You know me better than most around here. I've looked before and been overwhelmed by the number of projects going on, so I've not gotten very involved up until now.
Hey, does a mailbox vigil count, Selena?;)

stellar

06-08-2004, 11:03 AM

I could go for some cheese.

grinner

06-08-2004, 12:00 PM

I could go for some cheese.
don't you dare look at my cheese, stellar... :grr:

Selena

06-08-2004, 12:45 PM

I must not be looking at the right threads, because everyone I've seen is totally stoked! I know I am.
You're right, Selena. All of us could be doing more to further the cause. I know for me it's harder now to focus on because we got the mini and the praise from Henson and company for inspiring them. It's easier now to just bask in our victory. I don't think we're as hungry for it as we were, collectively.
I will make a concerted effort to try to involve myself in at least one of our ongoing efforts. Money's tight and so is time, but I'm sure I can find something to do in some small way.
If you have any suggestions for me Selena, I'd be all ears. You know me better than most around here. I've looked before and been overwhelmed by the number of projects going on, so I've not gotten very involved up until now.
Hey, does a mailbox vigil count, Selena?;)

Mailbox vigilance always counts LaBomba :D You da man! .... da PR man!

MY gripe was over opening FMD each day and being flooded with either gripes about what the mini isn't going to be or yet another spoiler thread.

And there are many of us who hang out in the OTs cause we're "Out Of Our Minds" but we're not putting a lot of effort into coming up with creative ways to promote our favorite show. Last year in many of our game threads, we were also coming up with great ideas… the fan calendar for one. It wasn't till I got really involved in that project that it got my juices flowing again to really make a difference for Farscape.

Seeing firsthand the enthusiasm and excitement that our little project made at the Henson Company blew me away. I had no idea that it would be received like that. I expected a curt "yeah, a calendar ... ho hum .... you didn't infringe any copyrights ... okay, next!" … type of response, but it was so much more than anything any of us imagined. Frell ... :bowdown: Brian was enthusiastic over our fan calendar. :eek: It got me thinking that I had better get a little more enthusiastic over Farscape than I have been of late. It was the least I could do to thank him for everything he was doing for us.

So yes, we need to be having Farscape discussions and playing games and getting to know each other better because that creates a secure community that lets us feel at ease with each other. But, we also need to never forget that our main goal and purpose is to promote Farscape! And to promote it so well, that Henson has no other option left but to yield to the demands of the masses - Farscape to be continued.

Perhaps for those of us who are perplexed about which project we should get involved in, there needs to be a readily accessible list of the current active projects that are updated regularly with progress reports. Many projects are spread over dozens of threads that are hundreds of posts long. Realistically few of us are going to wade through them to find out what it's about and what's happening now. It would be nice to have the basics listed and a bit about where we are today with that project. I did that with the calendar and it's not easy to do. It requires 1 person to make sure the news is posted at regular intervals to keep the enthusiasm going.

It would be great too, to have the projects divided into “specialties” … by that I mean each of us have talents and great skills. But we’re all different. Some of us are fantastic at graphics, others are great writers, some are musically inclined, some can organize, others (like UTChick) are genius at PR. There are those who are great at sniffing out a bargain and getting great quotes and others can build anything out of a couple of toothpicks. We also have people like grinner who are our fact gatherers and archivers. There are lots of other talents too, but we don’t seem to have assigned tasks where we can focus our creativity and feel useful ... where we know without a doubt we’re making a difference.

Currently, it's hard to know where each one of us fits in – we’re all part of the Farscape family but some of us are sitting around idle while others are totally swamped with responsibilities. One could even get the impression because many of the projects sound similar that they are in conflict. But it's not a competition, it's a collaboration. We are not in a position to focus energy on turf wars ... we have little enough time to do the work that needs to be done. No creative idea that promotes Farscape can be dismissed all of them have merit and should be explored. We are a huge family that needs to be directed and if we’re not interested in participating then why are we here?

If I hadn’t jumped in at the deep end 3 months ago, we would still be wondering what’s happening with the calendar. I’m glad I did jump in because it was the right thing to do but it was also very scary. There are quite a few things I’d do differently if I could do over but all in all the experience has been rewarding.

I love Farscape and I am greedy enough to want more Farscape… a whole lot more Farscape. That can only happen if I put myself out a bit more than I’m doing now. I don’t know what the answers are, but I know that I personally, am looking for direction. I would like to be part of a team that says “Hell Yeah! We did that, and look what we did!” :applaud:

Anubis

06-08-2004, 12:50 PM

WARNING - RANT FOLLOWS

I'm probably going to get lynched, but I have to get this off my chest ... I am really sick of the stream of threads that are either full of PK War spoilers or are whining about what the mini isn't going to be.

Just wait till after the mini airs, this thread will be swarming with scapers (with compliments on the mini, complaints, theories, what's next for Farscape, blah blah blah) like shit on velcro.

I don't see how ANYONE can complain about the mini, I'm just glad we're getting more Farscape! And maybe a little greedy for more :D .

Khalida

06-08-2004, 01:00 PM

There too much of me boiuncing up and down to consider any negatives, im just so happy you have achieved this victory!!!!And trying to think so to be "new blood" and help, :rolleyes: but i get distracted by the scape DVD's...more so when 'revising'! :D
PK War is the end of the story and there will be no more Farscape. PK War is NOT the end of the story. It’s the beginning of Farscape’s future! Woohooo! & love rants :wingnut:

Jeff O'Connor

06-08-2004, 01:03 PM

Everything she said in the first post here

You go jirl.

Everything she said in the second post here

Again, you go jirl. I definitely spend more than two fair shares of a person's time in the OTs but I'm making sure to be as much a part of the campaign as possible, without hesitation. I'm busily thinking of ways in my mind and with my less-than-financially-paradise-oriented situation to get the word out, to do things that someone without much cash to donate to projects can do, to be the real communicator and Farscape-spreader of my community. When something big happens, like that kid at Best Buy the other day, I post it here. And I make sure to at the very least say "that sounds like an awesome plan!" to some of the campaign ideas spreading, whenever they happen. I'm a pretty good writer and somewhat-musically inclined so if the specialty concept became a reality, I'd love to join a couple of those classes in particular. I, too, send letters, and vote for our stars across the net, and all of that, as much as possible. I strongly suggest everyone here at least write a letter a week to someone that could be a potential advertiser of some sort, or a thank-you to the cast and crew, or something at least generally good for the campaign. That said, I'm all for any changes FMD may come upon in order to further enhance our strong-willed might as Scapers.

JrMissToughChick

06-08-2004, 01:08 PM

I am promoting the Mini on other non-Farscape boards :D

Mike0812

06-08-2004, 01:10 PM

Perhaps for those of us who are perplexed about which project we should get involved in, there needs to be a readily accessible list of the current active projects that are updated regularly with progress reports. Many projects are spread over dozens of threads that are hundreds of posts long. Realistically few of us are going to wade through them to find out what it's about and what's happening now. It would be nice to have the basics listed and a bit about where we are today with that project. I did that with the calendar and it's not easy to do. It requires 1 person to make sure the news is posted at regular intervals to keep the enthusiasm going.

I think that's a great idea Selena :) .

Mike

Edited to add: I think Jul has already done that here more or less link (http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22456)

stellar

06-08-2004, 01:34 PM

don't you dare look at my cheese, stellar... :grr:

That's what she said.

harveywhispers

06-08-2004, 01:43 PM

What Selena said!!!

I have not yet begun to fight....for more Farscape!!!

Enforcer

06-08-2004, 01:54 PM

I am thrilled about Farscape's imminent return. I want to do more to help. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm that bright. I can't think of anything else to help other than me telling everyone I know to watch the mini and I help them get caught up on the series by lending out my copies. Maybe we could advertise on billboards or something. How about an "infomercial"? We could have the cast and a bunch of fans going on about the wonders of Farscape! It could air on about 10 channels at eh same time. It works for the "Natural Male Enhancement" guys. Or we could get SciFi to quit airing crap and put Farscape on at a reasonable time, that doesn't change every couple of weeks, from the beginning of the series. They could advertise their doing this so that people know about it. I have already written letters and emails to SciFi about that. It's hard to get people to watch the show when they are run out of sequence and at times no one can keep up with. That's all I can think of.

Well at least Tremors is gone. But, "Boa vs. Anaconda"? I think I speak for all of us when I say....huh?

I think Selena has been here doing a lot of work and she can rant all she likes! I'm glad you got that off your chest. She's certainly been here longer than I.

justanotherFSlvr

06-08-2004, 02:04 PM

I've got a small, no-effort project going on my own Website that I originally reported on in the "I Have a Plan" forums about two months ago, with an update posted today. It's something that anyone with their own site could probably do, and involves emailing notice of the broadcast of the mini to interested parties immediately before the mini airs.

Here's the thread:

http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?p=469626#post469626

harveywhispers

06-08-2004, 02:15 PM

I am thrilled about Farscape's imminent return. I want to do more to help. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm that bright.

I think Selena has been here doing a lot of work and she can rant all she likes! I'm glad you got that off your chest. She's certainly been here longer than I.

Enforcer...

NEVER feel as though you have nothing to contribute to the discussion of potential projects! EACH of us has played/plays an integral role in the return of Farscape! Granted, there are those of us who seem to be doing a lot around the boards....but...for each of us there is 50 lurkers out there who talk/write/donate....etc to ensure that there is going to be more Farscape. We are the sum of our parts! We are a magnificent force!

The single most important thing that we can do is "Remain a Community". We must keep visiting our "homes", be they FMD or Kansas or Farscapeworld or the DOM! We must support one another! It is on this foundation that we have accomplished such an awe inspiring thing!

my rant off...

Selena

06-08-2004, 02:37 PM

I am thrilled about Farscape's imminent return. I want to do more to help. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm that bright. I can't think of anything else to help other than me telling everyone I know to watch the mini and I help them get caught up on the series by lending out my copies........
I think Selena has been here doing a lot of work and she can rant all she likes! I'm glad you got that off your chest. She's certainly been here longer than I.

It doesn't matter how long one has been here Enforcer. The point is, that each one of us has something special and unique to offer.
Those of us who have been here for ages, need those of you who have just shown up. We need your new ideas and your enthusiasm ... don't forget that all of us were new at some stage and all of us felt we "are not that bright". You are every bit as much Farscape as I am.

Get involved in the letter writing campaign or get involved in one of the other projects.
If you're just hanging around the house on vacation from school - have a Farscape marathon at your house. Invite a bunch of your school friends and have each person bring a pizza and serve imitation margaritas (non-alcoholic)

Ouroboros

06-08-2004, 02:54 PM

I live in Canada so I couldn't really get involved in any of the sci-fi letter campaigns and such. I'm thinking about writing a letter to the Space channel to make sure they get the mini and I did chew out YTV a few years ago via e-mail when they took 'scape off the air.

Most importantly though I've worked Farscape into my wargaming hobby. I've spent several hundred dollars of my own money and probably close to a hundred man hours personally sculpting, painting, glueing and decaling a peacekeeper army for use in 28mm scale wargames. I even scratch built tiny liknesses of Scorpius and Grayza as command models for said army. The army always draws attention when I take it out to clubs and stuff to play games with other people and when it does I always fill them in on Farscape and what a cool show it is. Most of the people that run in wargames circles are sci-fi fans so it's ussually an easy sell to get them to check out the show.

Screwing over my efforts however is the fact Space airs the show at 1pm up here when damn near everybody is at work.

Moks

06-08-2004, 03:04 PM

I've been getting people around here to check it out, but nobody wants to stay up till 1am to see it. I aim for Sunday, 11pm airings, even that is late though. By the time it's done, it's midnight, and lots of people have work and what not. Anyway, I lend out my tapes and DVDs often.

And it's just human nature to complain. You have to expect it. People will shut up as the date approaches.

Luckily, I'm Sebacean. :yes:

harveywhispers

06-08-2004, 03:38 PM

And it's just human nature to complain. You have to expect it. People will shut up as the date approaches.

Not a good enough excuse....those people fail to comprehend just how "unique" this accomplishment is...and that we HAVE to capitalize on it......not bitch about it.

RydraWong

06-08-2004, 04:02 PM

Folks, there's a whole thread here where people are suggesting ideas that don't require any organization or cash:

http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24069&page=1&pp=15

I think people sometimes get fixated on the big projects, but the grassroots buzz is just as important right now, if not more so.

Angus

06-08-2004, 04:24 PM

There's a list of current projects that stlscape does. It's always updated and has links to all the project threads and funds. It's in the "I have a Plan" forum.
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22456

faustus

06-08-2004, 08:56 PM

Ouroboros

06-08-2004, 09:45 PM

Will they even care though? I don't think I could get their channel up here short of an illeagal satalite hook up. I've got a legit one now and I didn't see it listed anywhere in the package deal pamphlets they sent me.

faustus

06-08-2004, 10:04 PM

the more people they know watch the show they have a hand in creating or brining to the screen. the more they know they can sell it to other channels in other countries.

K'Daryn

06-08-2004, 10:51 PM

I don't mean to bring any negativity, but I have been a part of many campaigns, not to mention seen many shows come back to sub-par results upon its return. Of course, we all think PK War is the dradest, but I can't forget that Babylon 5 returned only to bomb, which won't happen with Farscape. However, there are so many unknown variables, such as how well Sci-fi promotes the mini-series, how many people turn out to watch the mini-series, and what network or decides to continue Farscape.

I think Farscape's Ad in TV Guide helps Farscape's exposure, and every new fan we can get should help PK War. I want PK War to do well, please don't hate me. It's hard for me to be an optimist when you consider what's likely to happen. I figure PK War is either going to do a little below or just above what we need for more Farscape. All we can do is wait and make damn sure that we make as many new viewers, not to mention advertisers to give Farscape the exposure to guarantee more Farscape.

Mike0812

06-08-2004, 10:59 PM

grinner

06-08-2004, 11:00 PM

Babylon 5 failed because TPTB were actively trying to DUMB the show down. Which was something the JMS wasn't going to have happen. They wanted sex and other shite that had nothing to do with the story... but supposedly would bring in the voyuer type person.
FarScape is already different than that situation... because TPTB weren't trying to do that... because TPTB was Henson. That right there shoots your whole theory into the water. There was no compromising to a NETWORK.

harveywhispers

06-08-2004, 11:07 PM

Why does there need to be ANY N - E - G - A - T - I - V - I - T - Y!?

Why does there need to be any complaining?

Why does there have to be ANY jumping to conclusions that this will suck? Even the worst Farscape was 90(+)% better than all of the dren on television!

Why can't we all be frelling thankful!?

Why the can't all of the complainers/whiners just get to work?

*leaves the thread to get her butt busy on a variety of positive Scaperly things*

Mike0812

06-08-2004, 11:10 PM

And dude, you need to have faith in TPTB. In 4 seasons, I and I think most people here have not been disappointed or let down, on the whole, with the way the series has been handled. What makes you think that's gonna change all of a sudden?

harveywhispers

06-08-2004, 11:13 PM

faustus

06-08-2004, 11:17 PM

well all I have to say is we got a mini now it's time for more eyeballs then we'll get a movie, or a new show etc.

K'Daryn

06-08-2004, 11:20 PM

harveywhispers

06-08-2004, 11:27 PM

grinner:

It's not different because Farscape is Science-ficition, and Sci-fi has never done well when compared to reality TV. We really have to get enough viewers, and the Sci-fi channel has to kick major eema to make PK War successful. Even if Henson is behind the mini-series that doesn't negate the fact Sci-fi has control over what happens to Farscape. You also forget that Henson is trying to get more viewers of Farscape, and we haven't seen PK War to know whether Farscape has changed. Sikozu looks different, and Rygel is carrying J & A's baby. You never know what will happen to Farscape.

Again...even the worst Farscape is better than 90% of television.

Why would skiffy have bought the right to air it if they had no intention of using it to make money!?

Have you ever heard of a self-fulfilling prophecy....? Sounds like you have zero intention of allowing yourself to like the product.

Quit complaining....and start being productive...

Mike0812

06-08-2004, 11:33 PM

You never know what will happen to Farscape.

Isn't that the point? If you want consistent, predictable and safe, sorry to break it to you, but I don't think this show is for you...

Again, it's fun to speculate, but chill...no need to worry and freak yourself out about things of which A) you don't know about and B) you have no control over...

K'Daryn

06-08-2004, 11:45 PM

harveywhispers:

I have every intention of enjoying PK War, but every worry that we could do everything humanly possible and Farscape could be over. Sci-fi isn't out to make money, because the only reason they're airing the mini-series is because Henson got the money to pay for the mini-series, and it's damage control on the part of Sci-fi. Sure, they hope they make money, but it's dynamite PR to bring back a show that to everyone else should not have been cancelled. Look, I hope that PK War is a success, and PK War isn't the end...

Mike0812:

Oh, I'm into the inconsistent, unpredictable, and bizarre nature of Farscape. What I'm not into is 4-5 months of time to let my mind convince myself that something could go wrong. Not everyone gets Farscape like we do, and we have to hope that there are enough viewers watching PK War and Sci-fi does their part. It's hard when your favorite show is cancelled, and you don't know if you'll see your favorite show again even after it returns. I want to believe Farscape will not end with PK War.

Jeff O'Connor

06-08-2004, 11:49 PM

Oh, I'm into the inconsistent, unpredictable, and bizarre nature of Farscape. What I'm not into is 4-5 months of time to let my mind convince myself that something could go wrong. Not everyone gets Farscape like we do, and we have to hope that there are enough viewers watching PK War and Sci-fi does their part. It's hard when your favorite show is cancelled, and you don't know if you'll see your favorite show again even after it returns. I want to believe Farscape will not end with PK War.

If we have to "hope" Sci-Fi does their part, then lets do our best to make up for whatever it may be that they might "accidentally miss" during advertising.

K'Daryn

06-09-2004, 12:26 AM

Jeff O'Connor:

What do we do to fill in whatever Sci-fi misses in advertising? I've written over 2 dozen letters, which is small compared to most. I've bought every season except season 1 on DVD, which is on VHS. I tell everyone I know to watch the mini-series. What else can I do? Asking a pessimist to be optimistic is like telling someone who has an elephant right in front of them to ignore the elephant. Without any biases towards PK War, how do you realistically see PK War turning out? Good? Bad? Will there be more Farscape? The honest truth, not optimism, please. What you really think...

RydraWong

06-09-2004, 04:14 AM

What else can I do?

Dude, check out the links to ongoing projects and ideas that have already been posted in this thread. If you don't have any spare cash to contribute, there's even a whole thread full of ideas that don't cost anything.

Without any biases towards PK War, how do you realistically see PK War turning out? Good? Bad?

Gee, I think it's going to be appallingly bad. After all, Brian Henson, David Kemper and Rockne O'Bannon are complete idiots, as we know, and the previous 4 seasons were a total fluke. Give them a vast budget and total creative freedom, and inevitably you're going to get a turkey.

C'mon.

None of us have seen the mini. We don't know what it's going to be like. But we have every reason to think it's going to be good. Not only is it being made by the extraordinarily talented people who have not let us down for 4 seasons, but all the buzz from people who have seen it (like one of MediaSavant's contacts) says that it's something special.

How it's going to do in terms of ratings? I don't know. A lot depends on how SciFi promotes it - and how we promote it. But ratings aren't the whole deal - for example, Hallmark make a lot of their profits from miniseries from DVD and video sales. And Farscape sells very well on DVD.

I couldn't even take a guess as to whether we'll get more Farscape after this or not, and how far down the line that'll be if it happens.

But we've already got this spectacular miniseries that everyone said was impossible.

SabaceanBabe

06-09-2004, 06:28 AM

Yeah, what everyone else said!

As far as whether or not Skiffy advertises it... Well, let's just say that Skiffy is irrelevant. They are meaningless. They are merely the delivery system of our favorite dru-- er, show.

TV Guide, in their wonderful little article, said that Scapers are mobilizing to advertise the mini. If anyone wants a self-fulfilling prophecy, let it be that. Scapers are mobilizing to advertise the mini. We're going to advertise the hezmana out of it. We're going to bring more eyeballs to the mini and to the series in general.

If you have money, donate it to the projects of your choice. If you don't have money, get your friends and family to watch Farscape. Even if only 1 out of 10 is thoroughly hooked and starts showing it to their friends and family, it's still going to end up being one of those pyramid scheme things. :eek: If you have no friends or family, then hey. Print off some of mycattoldme's bookmarks and ask your local library or bookstore to have them at the counter. Or take a couple of big pieces of cardboard and some magic markers and make your own watch Farscape sign and parade around your local mall on the weekends.

Selena is right. We've lost some momentum and are starting to just rest on our laurels. We need to get out there and just do it. [/end Nike ad]

Selena

06-09-2004, 06:58 AM

... of course, we all think PK War is the dradest, but I can't forget that Babylon 5 returned only to bomb ...

Babylon 5 never returned! The 5 seasons of Babylon 5 were the entire story. JMS envisioned that from the beginning. That's why Sleeping in Light was the final episode in the B-5 story and the space station was blown up. JMS was the one that turned out the lights at the end.
What followed after that was a spin-off called Crusade which was frelled by TNT who told JMS where they wanted the story to go. JMS said no, he would not corrupt the story line to make it a space soap opera and thus TNT pulled the plug. Crusade did not bomb, it was pulled for valid reasons. I know this because I followed B-5 from the beginning and was a member of The Zocalo for 4 years. JMS often sent news to The Zocalo and he was the one whi spilled the beans about why Crusade was ending.

As for the rest of your commentary see my first post. I think I covered it there.

Selena

06-09-2004, 07:08 AM

Check this out folks ... this was from the previous year 2002 - 2003

The Padded Cell Award
Most dedicated SFS campaign write-in writer

And the winner is…
RescueFarscape ~ writing a postcard a day for more than 4 months

Is anyone else showing this kind of dedication?

Jeff O'Connor

06-09-2004, 08:45 AM

That is a lot of dedication.. yeesh, inspiring... :bowdown:

harveywhispers

06-09-2004, 09:00 AM

Commencing today ---

I will be writing one letter per day to a network/sponsor....etc to let them know that I am still here. Yes...it's been far too long since I wrote a letter too....

Jeff O'Connor

06-09-2004, 09:02 AM

Commencing today ---

I will be writing one letter per day to a network/sponsor....etc to let them know that I am still here. Yes...it's been far too long since I wrote a letter too....

I'll be doing the same, without hesitation. Last time I wrote one was last week, but before that it'd been almost two weeks. :O

Bandana Girl

06-09-2004, 09:48 AM

I haven't read the whole thread but I must say I have lagged on some of my involvement of the project. In the begining I did letter writing even though I was in Canada I still wrote Skiffy (although they probably threw out my letters). When BH said something about those letter writers, I got pretty ticked off since I was one of those letter writers. The reason I did write letters was because it was cheap and easy. Also back then it was VERY focused, usually on a small group of people to send to with a particular goal in mind. Now the letter writing is a bit spread out and it's more up to the fan.

I've swicthed more to donating to get stuff and going to cons and talking up Scape. Also, contributing crazy ideas to I have a plan and poster crawls. After I saw this I sent a postcard to space to ask them to buy the mini and remembered how easy letter writing was, so I'll get back into it. Susana even had a postcard of the month project, which I think helps emphasize the letter writing. I hope Susana can get it back up (I'll PM her) I really wish that the letter writing was more focused though. It makes it really easy to participate.

Maybe one week we could have a write in campaign to Skiffy to ask them to air it in the day, next week we could focus on like 2 advertisers. I remember I think Twich or Tiriel wanted to send in pacifiers for the next stupid thing that Skiffy did, I think we should say "keep the peace and air FS when the sun is up" (I ain't no good at catch phrases) we could send in pacifiers symbolizing this and ask them to be donated. Should I start a thread on this in "I have a plan"? (catch phrase, I need a catch phrase).

I'd like to emphasize to try I have a plan and post your crazy ideas. For goodness sakes we sent BRAS in the mail!!!! In clear envelopes!!!!! :shocked:

Bandana Girl

06-09-2004, 09:55 AM

I have also recently discovered how difficult it is to talk up FS on other boards. Especially without a sig

UnixWarrior

06-09-2004, 06:28 PM

Babylon 5 never returned! ...
Absolutely correct!

I too loved B5 (still do -- it paved the way for Farscape), and TNT was the reason Crusade ended when it did. BTW, I thought Crusade was pretty good and deserved better than it got, but maybe I just like space shows? ;)

As for the Legend of the Rangers mini-series, thats a different story ... :shrug:

Selena

06-10-2004, 10:52 AM

If you're financially strapped and can't afford to donate or even the cost of postage on a postcard here's something you can do that is totally free ... and it supports the stars and the show.

Vote on the polls

http://www.nationaleopinie.nl/polls/miss.php?dank=1

http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl?qid=1021

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/v...000/1647352.stm

There are a couple of threads that have all the placings that the stars are at. Yes it does make a difference - you'll be instrumental in helping keep Farscape's name and the stars in the lime light. That means you'll have to commit to voting every day. Some people find it just too much. But if you can't afford to be involved any other way then here's a way that you can make a difference for Farscape.

BaseLine

06-10-2004, 11:02 AM

That's why Sleeping in Light was the final episode in the B-5 story and the space station was blown up.

The space station is going to be blown up!!!???

MaveZ

06-10-2004, 12:16 PM

The space station is going to be blown up!!!???

Well, you dont need to watch Babylon 5 much to see the visions about the future.. Also about the future of station Babylon5.
The catch is, what future is the real one.
And that is one carrying force, what keeps this show so great.

Enforcer

06-10-2004, 05:40 PM

:D I still vote on all the polls, donate, and I still write letters and emails. I have not been able to work a con into my schedule. I work every other weekend and so far all of them have been on weekends I work. I do intend to go to one, however. I would love to go to the big one in Burbank because I have been to websites provided by FMD members who have nothing but great things to say about the whole event. From what I can gather, the entire cast is wonderful and there really seems to be a connection between the cast and the fans. If at all possible, I would love to get the gold pass! I am taking a new job in Raleigh, NC at a significantly increased salary so who knows!

Selena, I appreciate your comments earlier in response to my post. I said I wasn't that bright and you tried to make me feel better about that fact! :) I don't really think I'm dumb, it's just that the work you guys have done here at FMD and savefarscape has been so organized and so successful I just know I couldn't have done what you guys did. Your efforts got our show back. I couldn't believe it! I know we all play our role, but I recognize when I'm in the presence of greatness. I'm just glad that I discovered this movement, if you will, and can help in anyway possible.

You guys rock. :signbravo

scifinutter

06-10-2004, 08:52 PM

I know we all play our role, but I recognize when I'm in the presence of greatness. I'm just glad that I discovered this movement, if you will, and can help in anyway possible.

Can I get a Hell Yeah?!

I just want to say that if ever I'm down, all I have to do is come here and read about the achievements made so far, and the achievements that are still to come, and I feel much better. Scapers are just so special and unique and I am so proud to be one. Share the love, people!

God we kick ass.
*gone to have a yell and scream about how great we are*

faustus

06-10-2004, 09:00 PM

OK scifinutter help we wright into foxtell asking for the mini then

scifinutter

06-10-2004, 09:15 PM

Course we will. We'll get the Aussie contingent onto it! I'm still harassing channel nong about s4, but nothing. They're just too ashamed of themselves to admit that they stuffed up, IMO.

Was also thinking, I wonder if any other free-to-air stations may pick it up? Course not ch nong, but other stations. I think ch7 would be a really good home for Farscape. They have Stargate, and Buffy, and Angel (even if they're on at 11pm). The mini would make for good Saturday/Sunday night viewing.

faustus

06-10-2004, 09:26 PM

hang on I'll post in the OZ section of the forum

Selena

06-12-2004, 02:29 PM

The only way to get it on to your screens guys is to mount a huge write in campaign. I wish there was more we could do to help you but it's got to come from the home crowd. I was part of the Star Trek campaign many years ago and we diidn't have the internet then.

There are heaps of postcards etc on this site to help you write to Channel 7 or whoever you want to air the show. If just a couple of dozen people wrote consistently for a few months I bet they would take notice.

... there are 19,000,000 Aussies (even if a couple of us are overseas) ... surely there are a lot of Farscape fans in that group, you just have to find a way to network effectively.

Bandana Girl

06-12-2004, 05:06 PM

I met some Oz FS fans at a LOTR con.

faustus

06-13-2004, 01:49 AM

Selena

06-13-2004, 09:56 AM

Yes well, my son is partly responsible for that increase thanks to my grandson Ashley's birth last year. :D

JrMissToughChick

06-13-2004, 12:00 PM

We have a new forum YAY! :chex:

faustus

06-13-2004, 11:40 PM

you can dance
you can dance
everybody look at your pants :D

waltersgirl

06-14-2004, 12:21 AM

I am really sick of the stream of threads that are either full of PK War spoilers or are whining about what the mini isn't going to be.

Where is the enthusiasm for the campaign we are fighting?

that is the enthusiasm. they are celebrating their partial victory in a way that is common to fans. they geek about the show.

FRECKLEMYSTER

06-14-2004, 11:29 AM

we got our show back...
are we not happy????

Jeff O'Connor

06-14-2004, 11:30 AM

we got our show back...
are we not happy????

I'm frelling hysterically happy. That's the point. :rollin:

Selena

06-14-2004, 11:33 AM

I'm happy too but there's a heap of people who do nothing but whine about what PK War isn't going to be.

Bring on PK War and then let's get on with shooting the movies ... :joy:

waltersgirl

06-14-2004, 06:03 PM

I'm happy too but there's a heap of people who do nothing but whine about what PK War isn't going to be.

and that's also what fans do. and they're allowed to. just like there are fans who are endlessly optimistic and will brook no ill speak about their fave show, or fave characters or whatever. fans are fans. the announcement of the network showing the mini and the release of promo pictures is cause for celebration. and many fans are going to go back to doing what they do best...endlessly obsessing about the show. feel free not to participate. i don't. but don't expect them to stop simply because you don't agree. they have as much right to whine as others do to celebrate.