View Full Version : Returning Character Speculation
Doc Holiday
06-15-2004, 11:26 AM
What departed characters do you wish to return for PK War and theories to how this would work? Discuss it here.
I personally want Crais AND Talyn.
Jeff O'Connor
06-15-2004, 11:33 AM
What departed characters do you wish to return for PK War and theories to how this would work? Discuss it here.
I personally want Crais AND Talyn.
I'd like to see Crais and Talyn come back, and inflict a great deal of damage on the Scarrans. I think Crais standing beside Scorpius and Sikozu would be very intriguing. I'm also one of the very limited people (that I know of) who seem to think Crais and Jool would make an interesting couple.
The Starburst could've blown Talyn into the nearby wormhole before he was destroyed by the explosion, and the Crais in the Unrealized Reality could've actually been our Bialar, trapped and thinking he was there and that's where he belonged, when in fact he should be back in the reality we know of and see. He could be delusional and caught up in the game, and seeing John triggers the happiness from seeing him in that way. He could break free, or, more plausably, going into that reality again for whatever reason, John could find him again, now knowing it's really "his" Crais, and rescue both him and Talyn.
Col. Kathryn O'Neill
06-15-2004, 11:43 AM
hmmm crais and jool as a couple... i think i've read a few fics where they've been paired together.. good match they worked well together in Fractures.. (go vote for that for sundays KFC chat (on kansas)
id love to see crais and talyn back as well.. and talyn well it would be nice to see what a full grown ship like that could do.. talk bout the fire power.. he'd be able to pack quite a wallop and put the scarrens in their place and perhaps high/first command as well.. which makes me wonder.. where is it located... on a planet or a ship?
Jeff O'Connor
06-15-2004, 11:54 AM
where is it located... on a planet or a ship?
Probably a planet, though perhaps a ship, but either way, undoubtedly deep within the heart of Peacekeeper Space... and the only time they've been there was on the very outskirts of it in Premiere, really.
Col. Kathryn O'Neill
06-15-2004, 12:08 PM
Probably a planet, though perhaps a ship, but either way, undoubtedly deep within the heart of Peacekeeper Space... and the only time they've been there was on the very outskirts of it in Premiere, really.
they were... i don't think it was shown.. it was a carrier group..
i know ive read fics and its a ship (in the company of ghosts (very good fic.. long and well wrote too)
but then i guess we'll find out :)
Jeff O'Connor
06-15-2004, 12:13 PM
I certainly hope so. My biggest desire in the future of Farscape, outside've lots on the Nebari, is to actually see High Command and the Scarran Hierarchy. The people we see are mostly puppets that play the role of puppeteers because they're smart enough to do it, but even Staleek, well, judging by comments, even the Emperor himself is just another member of the Hierarchy, to risk "Being judged harshly" as was said.
Darth Buddha
06-15-2004, 12:15 PM
I would never see Crais standing with Scorpius again. Nor with the likes of Sikozu.
More likely he'd grudgingly stand with Aeryn, D'Argo, and John (listed in order of what I think his preference would be!).
Jeff O'Connor
06-15-2004, 12:17 PM
I would never see Crais standing with Scorpius again. Nor with the likes of Sikozu.
More likely he'd grudgingly stand with Aeryn, D'Argo, and John (listed in order of what I think his preference would be!).
Oh, that's very true.
Col. Kathryn O'Neill
06-15-2004, 12:17 PM
i read too many fics... i want to know the history of the pks too... (and there's some good fics out there as well..)
Tayln
06-15-2004, 01:31 PM
I deffently have to say Princess Katralla with there child i havnt seen the ep for a while and cant remember wat attucly happened to her in the end and if she is still a statue!
Otherwise i think Gilina would be cool!!
Dangermousie
06-15-2004, 01:44 PM
I would love to see Crais again (and I did think he and Jool could have made a decent couple), but I also hope he won't come back, as FS had enough characters return from the dead.
Would love to see Zhaan. More probable than Crais (IMO) and I've always loved her character. Plus, it would be priceless to see everyone's reaction (especially Stark's).
Doc Holiday
06-15-2004, 03:05 PM
I would like to see Talyn and Crais be the spin-off. THye could show up in PK War and afer that Stark could join the gfroup as well as maybe Sikozku.
Doc Holiday
06-15-2004, 03:13 PM
As for Zhaan I would only want to see her if they were closing Stark's storyline.
scaperbuddy
06-15-2004, 03:37 PM
I would love to see Crais and Talyn return and have them fight the Scarans with John and Aeryn.
SP O I L E R
Maybe they escaped the command carrier before the explosion. I would also like to see Zhaan come back. There's been some hints about that too. Maybe as a spirit for her.
Lonewolf89
06-15-2004, 03:45 PM
I'd like to se Crais, Talyn, Jool, and, as remote a possibility as it maybe, Katralla. I wouldn't mind seeing Jack Crichton and Jothee in the mini, either. I still haven't made my mind up about Zhaan yet.
DamonAO
06-16-2004, 05:44 AM
I don't wan't to be a kill joy and I know the question was what would you like to see but
1.) Talyn and Crais blew up. Boom. They had pieces of him left which they brought to the burial ground but that was it. The only way I could see bringing him back in would be to extract them from an unrealized reality where Crais did not take the high road and sacrifice himself, perhaps selling out everybody else to save himself. That sort of thing. An "Oh by the way, they didn't really die, they were blown into an alternate reality where they eternaly sip tea with Zhann waiting for an opportunity to return and save the day" would cheapen act and the show.
2.) Katralla was to be left as a statue for 80 some odd cycles. That's why John didn't wan't to do it. Everybody he cared for or knew back on earth would be dead.
All that being being said, I wouldn't be averse to seeing Natira again. :evil:
That was one sexy Crustacean :lech:
SabaceanBabe
06-16-2004, 05:57 AM
I don't wan't to be a kill joy and I know the question was what would you like to see but
1.) Talyn and Crais blew up. Boom. They had pieces of him left which they brought to the burial ground but that was it. The only way I could see bringing him back in would be to extract them from an unrealized reality where Crais did not take the high road and sacrifice himself, perhaps selling out everybody else to save himself. That sort of thing. An "Oh by the way, they didn't really die, they were blown into an alternate reality where they eternaly sip tea with Zhann waiting for an opportunity to return and save the day" would cheapen act and the show.
2.) Katralla was to be left as a statue for 80 some odd cycles. That's why John didn't wan't to do it. Everybody he cared for or knew back on earth would be dead.
All that being being said, I wouldn't be averse to seeing Natira again. :evil:
That was one sexy Crustacean :lech:
POSSIBLE PK WAR SPOILERS -- READ AT YOUR OWN RISK
I've got to agree with you on point 1, here, but point 2 is actually possible. What if something were to happen to Empress Novia? Katralla and Tyno would have to be unfrozen early to take over the reins (or is that reigns? :ewink: ). I just watched LATP: the Maltese Crichton again last night, and there was a lot of stuff in it about the Scarrans and the PKs wanting the Royal Planet and the rest of the kingdom (or whatever its called). It really made me realize that even in season 2 they were setting things up for the war that was to come in season 5. Doesn't mean that the Breakaway Colonies will appear in the mini at all, just that it's a real possibility, imho.
DamonAO
06-16-2004, 06:12 AM
What if something were to happen to Empress Novia? Katralla and Tyno would have to be unfrozen early to take over the reins (or is that reigns? :ewink: ).
Your right, that could happen. I do however think we have to be realistic about how that would best serve the storyline on a miniseries that has is supposed to bring in new viewers. Bringing them into it could take up a lot of valuable time, time that could be taken in a season of programs but probably not here.
I suppose part of the story could revolve around the assassination of the empress and the premature transformation of katralla and the royal consort (old what's his name, oh yeah. Tyno.) As a prelude to the big conflict. But I kind of doubt it.
Aw damn, I'm sorry. I know this is just what people would like to see. I don't mean to be so argumentative.
Antrobus
06-16-2004, 08:22 AM
I'd like to see Furlow come back and try to steal John from Aeryn! ;)
As I said in another thread, maybe she'll do a drive by cameo in her dune buggy!! :drivin:
Jeff O'Connor
06-16-2004, 09:38 AM
As I said in another thread, maybe she'll do a drive by cameo in her dune buggy!! :drivin:
On a random desert-like world in the miniseries
*enter John and Aeryn, stepping across the dunes together, searching for... uhh... something*
*a dune buggy starts to come by; from dune buggy*
Furlow: Oh, hey Johnnie.
*dune buggy leaves*
Col. Kathryn O'Neill
06-16-2004, 09:50 AM
or perhaps aeryn shoots Furlow for the hell of it for making her suffer..
Jeff O'Connor
06-16-2004, 09:50 AM
or perhaps aeryn shoots Furlow for the hell of it for making her suffer..
Or perhaps Grunchlik and Furlow are lovers. Who knows.
Darth Buddha
06-16-2004, 09:52 AM
Is that ZHAAN in that picture?
O.K., check out these pictures (old news) but scrutinize the seventh picture, the character on the far right, partially sheilded by Stark.
http://www.farscapeworld.com/news/shownews.php?id=128
The color is wrong, but the face looks familiar.... am I seeing things here?
I'll try to check back this weekend to see what you folks think... Buddha needs a new pair of glasses?
Col. Kathryn O'Neill
06-16-2004, 09:53 AM
Or perhaps Grunchlik and Furlow are lovers. Who knows.
AAAAKKKKK!!!!! oh god Jeff that was a very bad joke
BaseLine
06-16-2004, 09:54 AM
Or perhaps Grunchlik and Furlow are lovers. Who knows.
Ugh, I so didn't need that mental image.
Jeff O'Connor
06-16-2004, 09:58 AM
Is that ZHAAN in that picture?
O.K., check out these pictures (old news) but scrutinize the seventh picture, the character on the far right, partially sheilded by Stark.
http://www.farscapeworld.com/news/shownews.php?id=128
The color is wrong, but the face looks familiar.... am I seeing things here?
I'll try to check back this weekend to see what you folks think... Buddha needs a new pair of glasses?
Anything's possible, Buddha... but to be honest, doesn't it look like the actress who played the nurse, Sebacean nurse, Vreena, in Prayer and WSS: Part One? She looked more to me like maybe a Qu'Jagan Priestess.
Jeff O'Connor
06-16-2004, 09:58 AM
Ugh, I so didn't need that mental image.
I aim to frighten. :aok:
Tayln
06-16-2004, 09:58 AM
Is that ZHAAN in that picture?
O.K., check out these pictures (old news) but scrutinize the seventh picture, the character on the far right, partially sheilded by Stark.
http://www.farscapeworld.com/news/shownews.php?id=128
The color is wrong, but the face looks familiar.... am I seeing things here?
I'll try to check back this weekend to see what you folks think... Buddha needs a new pair of glasses?
I think that is the women that looked after Aeryn in the ep 'prayer'!!
http://www.farscapeworld.com/gallery/10418/10418-056.jpg
Dunno her name?!?!
Col. Kathryn O'Neill
06-16-2004, 10:00 AM
well sounds like ya did your job.. now i cant get that image outta my head... er... yotz...
must go find some nice shippy j/a pics
Jeff O'Connor
06-16-2004, 10:01 AM
I think that is the women that looked after Aeryn in the ep 'prayer'!!
http://www.farscapeworld.com/gallery/10418/10418-056.jpg
Dunno her name?!?!
It was Vreena, as I said a moment ago... but the post was a good ways up there so I'll repeat. At least I think it was Vreena. She supposedly died in WSS: Part One, but if I really look back on it, I think her death was like... being hit on the head real hard? Of course, it could be a case of recycled actors, because she played someone in DALD, she could be playing a Qu'Jagan ally now.
Darth Buddha
06-16-2004, 10:02 AM
I think that is the women that looked after Aeryn in the ep 'prayer'!!
http://www.farscapeworld.com/gallery/10418/10418-056.jpg
Dunno her name?!?!
Isn't that woman DEAD (well, so is Zhaan)?
Jeff O'Connor
06-16-2004, 10:03 AM
Isn't that woman DEAD (well, so is Zhaan)?
Yeah, but wasn't her death just being hit in the head? Of course I could be remembering that completely wrong... but this actress has been in the show twice before; as sucky as it could be to think they'd let her face look remarkably similar, she could be a Qu'Jagan ally now in role.
Tayln
06-16-2004, 10:08 AM
Didnt she seem to know her stuff about aeryns baby, maybe shes back because of this?
Jeff O'Connor
06-16-2004, 10:19 AM
Didnt she seem to know her stuff about aeryns baby, maybe shes back because of this?
That was one theory of mine, yes.
SabaceanBabe
06-16-2004, 10:35 AM
I'm thinking it's the actress who played Vreena, now playing a Qujagan woman. But that's just me.
Jeff O'Connor
06-16-2004, 10:41 AM
I'm thinking it's the actress who played Vreena, now playing a Qujagan woman. But that's just me.
Well, that's my main theory anyway.
DamonAO
06-16-2004, 12:07 PM
I'm thinking it's the actress who played Vreena, now playing a Qujagan woman. But that's just me.
I think that is correct and by the way, I believe it was implied that she died of dermafolica. by implied I mean we see her laying there with sloffed skin, seemingly dead. Nobody actually declares "This woman has died of dermafolica".
faustus
06-17-2004, 03:01 AM
I think that is correct and by the way, I believe it was implied that she died of dermafolica. by implied I mean we see her laying there with sloffed skin, seemingly dead. Nobody actually declares "This woman has died of dermafolica".
I think shes dead
Doc Holiday
07-02-2004, 02:14 PM
Good topic to ressurect. ( Notto mention I am the author of it)
Jeff O'Connor
07-02-2004, 02:18 PM
"Durka Returns... Again"
My response to that would be something like this.
"How many times will this bastard return before Rygel actually attempts to regain his throne..."
Col. Kathryn O'Neill
07-02-2004, 02:27 PM
well durka did loose his head.. oh maybe he was a biloid and there's multiple copies of him
Jeff O'Connor
07-02-2004, 02:28 PM
Farscape Miniseries: Episode II: Attack of the Durkas
Doc Holiday
07-02-2004, 02:31 PM
Killer would be the Hynerian Empire fighting of a Scarren invasion.
Jeff O'Connor
07-02-2004, 02:39 PM
I'd love to see that.
Boron
07-02-2004, 10:16 PM
I saw the pic, and I don't think it was Zhaan. (or any form of her), as much as I would like to see it. I vote for a midwife type for Aeryn and the baby.
Doc Holiday
07-02-2004, 10:18 PM
I agree.
Craistine
07-04-2004, 01:16 PM
As much as I wish the return of Crais & Talyn (btw Iīm also a big fan of the Crais-Jool-couple-thing :hug2: ), I must admit that is not very plausible and wouldnīt match Farscape. I hope that at least Jool has more than one scene, Iīm very happy that she appears in the mini. :swing:
jirick
07-04-2004, 07:25 PM
Minor Spoiler
Didn't Talyn's parts from the explosion get put in the Leviathan graveyard after he blew up?
Jeff O'Connor
07-04-2004, 10:17 PM
Yup.
Boron
07-04-2004, 11:39 PM
One of the crew made a comment about how little there was, tho. The biggest part could be somewhere else??
soyarma
07-05-2004, 12:32 AM
I want Natira to come back. The actress vowed never to get back in that costume again, but maybe time has softend her outlook.
Boron
07-05-2004, 01:47 AM
Natira was cool. (and hot).
Craistine
07-05-2004, 06:31 AM
Natira was very awesome and imho this was one of the best Farscape costumes so far.
scaperbuddy
07-05-2004, 06:52 AM
I read that the actress Claudia Karvan who played Natira would consider coming back as a character that wouldn't be so high maintenance but definitely not as Natira. Did you know that the Oct/Nov 2002 issue of Farscape magazine did a five page article on the actress and the character Natira? It was their villians special issue. It had alot of pics of her.
Boron
07-05-2004, 06:59 AM
Awesome character. I guess I can't blame her about the costume, tho. Those things have to be uncomfortable. I think I read that Ben Browder was saying how hot the Scorpius costume was. He had to wear it for one of the episodes, or something.
scaperbuddy
07-05-2004, 07:24 AM
Miss Karvan did mention in the article that the costume was very hot and uncomfortable but she liked playing Natira.
Boron
07-05-2004, 07:28 AM
Beautiful costume, tho.
scaperbuddy
07-05-2004, 07:37 AM
Very nice costume and alot of work put into the costume by the designers and alot of work put into the character by Claudia. You ought to try to get this issue of Farscape if you are a big fan of Natira. I bought my issue off of Ebay. It is a very good article and alot of pics.
Boron
07-05-2004, 07:48 AM
Well, I admit I haven't read many magazines on FS, I've been getting most of my news from this board. I would like to read that, tho.
scaperbuddy
07-05-2004, 08:05 AM
This article is in the official Farscape magazine that was published by Titan magazines for twelve issues and was cancelled when the show was cancelled. The issues are all about Farscape, storylines, characters minor and big etc. I've learned alot by reading them I wish I knew about the magazine when it first came out so I could have collected them all. I found out when issue #10 was out. I am trying to get them off of Ebay now and they are great reading. I'm a late scaper.
Boron
07-05-2004, 08:09 AM
Yes, I was late too. I watched a couple of eps somewhere in the middle, and at first thought it was just too far out for me.
Later, I had more time, so I started watching it for something to do. Then I started getting really interested in the storylines behind the characters. Next thing I know, I'm looking for FS on the internet, and found it had been cancelled. I was mad. Found a link to this site and been here ever since. I get about all of my FS news and stuff from here.
scaperbuddy
07-05-2004, 08:54 AM
My Dad scaped me. I had to get caught up. He lived in Fla. My area didn't carry the Sci-fi channel at first so he and other relatives had to tape it for me and I also bought the DVDs. I had to watch it several times and I am still learning new things on this board. I really enjoy this board! When my area finally got the Sci-fi channel Farscape was into season four and it had just been cancelled. Sob Sob.
Boron
07-05-2004, 09:00 AM
This board made me go out and buy a DVD recorder, and then I bought Firefly and loved it, too. Of course it was cancelled after one season.
scaperbuddy
07-05-2004, 09:16 AM
I want get a DVD recorder but I can't afford one yet. I have seen a few episodes of Firefly. It was a good show. Isn't it coming out on DVD soon? I also saw a rumor somewhere where they were thing about making a Firefly movie. I read it in one of my mags somewhere.
Boron
07-05-2004, 09:29 AM
Yes, the entire season is out as a set. I bought mine off of ebay half.com
And there is a FF movie coming out. It will be tremendous too. Watch the entire series, then catch the movie.
scaperbuddy
07-05-2004, 09:58 AM
I will have to do that.
CeRell
07-05-2004, 05:20 PM
Ben was in the Scorpious costume several times as Harvey!John. I think they should let a few scapers in when they film the NEXT Farscape production and have us (we'd do it for free) hold portable air conditioning units on the actors :) Course we'd likely keep fainting from the sheer excitement.
faustus
07-05-2004, 09:34 PM
:thud:
CeRell
07-05-2004, 09:50 PM
So we'd need even MORE scapers to drag off the scaper bodies and even MORE to hold those air conditioners.....
faustus
07-05-2004, 09:58 PM
we'll have an scaper army to help
CeRell
07-06-2004, 06:09 AM
We'll have to disguise ourselves as Ozzie crew though....
Sunglasses might help ya think?
scaperbuddy
07-06-2004, 06:16 AM
You could try that.
faustus
07-06-2004, 06:41 AM
well I got the accent down
just let me do all the talking
scaperbuddy
07-06-2004, 07:56 AM
I can't do the accent. So you better talk. I'll pretend I have laryngitis.
CeRell
07-06-2004, 03:46 PM
I'll have to start working on a accent. Only...what accent do ozzie's from Sydney have? I've heard several different varieties!
faustus
07-06-2004, 07:57 PM
just dot try and sound like steve irwin you'll stick out like a sour thumb
I want to see Bekhesh come back. That bwoy kicks rear. :yes:
Boron
07-07-2004, 03:03 AM
Steve Irwin is proof that being insane can be profitable.
scaperbuddy
07-07-2004, 04:57 AM
Bekhesh was in Liars, Guns and Money wasn't he? What other episode was he in?
Boron
07-07-2004, 05:10 AM
Bekhesh was one of the mercanaries hired by the crew, wasn't he???
faustus
07-07-2004, 07:26 AM
yeap in the liars, guns and money trilogy
DamonAO
07-07-2004, 09:49 AM
Throne for a loss
Jeff O'Connor
07-07-2004, 10:57 AM
Throne for a loss
That's when he first came in. He was a bad guy then.
Yeah, Bekhesh was awesome. Such a bada$$, even when he went all holy and all that.
scaperbuddy
07-07-2004, 03:52 PM
Wasn't he the guy who said he didn't want any money at first and he was going to be holy and not kill people. John had to talk him into the mission.
MySideYourSide
07-08-2004, 01:52 PM
"Farewell my friends, and thank you for teaching me to kill again."
- Bekesh in Liars, Guns, and Money
scaperbuddy
07-08-2004, 01:58 PM
Now I remember
faustus
07-08-2004, 08:13 PM
"Farewell my friends, and thank you for teaching me to kill again."
- Bekesh in Liars, Guns, and Money
he said it so flipantly as well. I loved it
Doc Holiday
07-08-2004, 08:21 PM
Name's ASH... Housewares
Rakel
07-13-2004, 11:24 AM
I'd like to see Nerri. And Jothee. Jool too.
Craistine
07-13-2004, 11:39 AM
"Farewell my friends, and thank you for teaching me to kill again."
:lol
thatīs one of my favorite quotes from LGM! Thx for reminding!
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