View Full Version : Teaser Spoilers and Speculation -- Serious Stuff! Don't Look!
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 09:37 PM
Okay, everyone else is using the other threads to say how much the trailer rocked (which it did) and how much they can't wait until October (which I can't either), but I want to get some serious fanatical discussion going on the frelling CONTENT of the trailer! Who's with me! Spoiler Virgins avert your eyes, this is serious business!!!
First, that close up of Scorpy . . . is it just me or does that look much more like Ben in his Harvey makeup than Wayne?
Also, in BOTH trailers they show what looks like Moya getting blown up by an energy beam in mid-starburst. :fear: :eek: :bawl:
Are y'all seeing this too? I've watched both trailers in slo-mo several times and those things jump out at me each time.
Digger
07-09-2004, 09:39 PM
Not so sure about Scorpy, but yeah it looks like Moya's taking another beating. Poor Moya. She needs a vacation.
Jeff O'Connor
07-09-2004, 09:39 PM
I agree with those comments... I got freaked by the possibility of Moya blowing up. But would they really show something like that happen on the teaser trailer months before the release? Oh wait, nevermind. :snicker:
BlackThorn
07-09-2004, 09:41 PM
I thought Scorpy looked like Scorpius, instead of Ben/Scorpy, but that's just me.
I did catch what looks like Moya getting slammed again. :cry2:
And as mentioned in the other thread, the shot of Crichton and Aeryn drawing their pistols looks like right after they've been put back together. They start in the same position they were in when they got "neutralized."
blueaeryn
07-09-2004, 09:44 PM
I thought Scorpy at first too, But.... Also, look at the one of Moya, sure looks like some sort of blast coming her way. Also, the pic of John and Aeryn. Eerily familar, like the tag of Relativity.
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 09:46 PM
Yes, I saw Moya getting hit yet again..... Poor Moya... :(
Also, did anyone notice that in the scene with J/A in each others laps, with the diagnosan.... Does anyone else look closely and it *appears* that Aeryn is pregnant in that scene. You have to look really REALLY closely because he abdomen is dark against John, but I could have sworn I saw a pregnant belly there.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 09:47 PM
http://www.showing247.com/farscape/images/PKwars_scorpy.jpg
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 09:49 PM
You're faster than me, BA. :lol
Adam L Garcia
07-09-2004, 09:50 PM
"The Saga Continues" vs. "The Saga Concludes"
These are a goood tidings my friends!
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 09:51 PM
Okay, I figured before there had to be some trips through the looking glass in this one, but now I'm sure (at least there better be!). We must be seeing some unrealized realities. Doncha think? Especially the whole TJohn stuff. Gotta be. Right?
blueaeryn
07-09-2004, 09:51 PM
Oh, and if this is Ahkna she sure looks different. Almost as if it isn't the same person. That can't be right, though. Sure it is just the make-up.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 09:52 PM
"The Saga Continues" vs. "The Saga Concludes"
These are a goood tidings my friends!
Oooh, good point! Henson must have put the trailer together. I would think SciFi would continue on with their "The Final Chapter" type dren.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 09:54 PM
Yep. That doesn't look like Francesca AT ALL (of course if I hadn't met Gigi I wouldn't have been able to pick her out without the makeup on).
I guess that must be Wayne as Scorpius but it sure does look like Ben to me.
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 09:54 PM
I liked how the only time you saw sci-fi's name was at the very end of the trailer and in really tiny letters.. :ewink:
Christiarc
07-09-2004, 09:55 PM
is it a UR Sikozu?
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 09:55 PM
And she's the right height for Francesca. I'm assuming that's the Staleek she's standing next to.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 09:57 PM
I think Sikozu has gotten in touch with her inner half-breed and gone over to the dark side (and perhaps been to New York for a new hairdo). ;)
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 09:58 PM
So.. umm.. has anyone else noticed that Aeryn looks pregnant in that one scene, or is it just my imagination?
blueaeryn
07-09-2004, 09:59 PM
Yep. That doesn't look like Francesca AT ALL (of course if I hadn't met Gigi I wouldn't have been able to pick her out without the makeup on).
I guess that must be Wayne as Scorpius but it sure does look like Ben to me.
Yeah, but even with Gigi, you can see her in there somewhere. Mostly around the nose and mouth. I looked back at some photos of Ahkna and that looks like a totally different person. The mouth is different. Of course, could be wrong.
BA
AgentSun
07-09-2004, 10:00 PM
QUICK! someone tell me what commercial break it comes on during the SG1 premiere! i missed it but SG1 is showing again now, so after what commercial break does the trailer come on?!!
waltersgirl
07-09-2004, 10:00 PM
So.. umm.. has anyone else noticed that Aeryn looks pregnant in that one scene, or is it just my imagination?
ohmigod, Aeryn's pregnant???????????
blueaeryn
07-09-2004, 10:02 PM
So.. umm.. has anyone else noticed that Aeryn looks pregnant in that one scene, or is it just my imagination?
I don't think so. If you look close the Diagnosin is over to the left and the person who looks like Grunshlik is to the right of him. D'Argo is over to their right as well. I think that is when they get brought back from crystal state. Notice, Aeryn is sitting on John's lap, just like they were when they got zapped. I think they put them back together, and then have to deal with the fact that they didn't get the baby back as well. Have to go through something to get the little tyke inside Aeryn.
BA
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 10:02 PM
:confused:
Did I say something wrong?
AgentSun
07-09-2004, 10:04 PM
no kathleen you didn't. the threads relating to the teaser are obvious spoiler spots, so i think anyone in here would expect spoilers.
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 10:10 PM
Oh, okay. I just thought, because of waltersgirl's comment, that I had maybe said something I shouldn't have. It threw me off guard. :(
*slinks back behind the :wall:
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:13 PM
Don't worry Kathleen, wg's just messing with you cuz so many people have freaked about spoilers and she has a particularly wicked sense of humor. :ewink:
AgentSun
07-09-2004, 10:15 PM
i just downloaded soyarma's mpg...
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
any idea what time it'll air in october? cause um...i NEED to go home for this. is this like a weekend thing or what? cause i'll be at college...
oh, and yeah it did look like francesca. the mouth is the same. actually it kinda looks like the mouth on my avatar.
Digger
07-09-2004, 10:16 PM
WG was just joking Kathleen. No need to go hide. Have you seen Bad Timing?
If not, read no further.......
Because we all know by then that Aeryn in preggers.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:17 PM
Okay I have to admit it because I have only seen Bad Timing twice :rolleyes: but I don't remember Aeryn sitting in John's lap in the boat (which seems a highly unlikely position for people to be in in a boat if you ask me). In fact, I thought John was kind of kneeling when he gave her the ring and then they were just holding on to each other when they went all crystally.
It's hard to tell from the angles that they show, but from the still it does kinda sorta look like Aeryn could be showing in that pic, but then that would mean it couldn't be immediately after they "decrystalize" or whatever they do to put Humpty and the missus back together. I may need to go watch the trailer a few dozen more times . . .
:joy:
Digger
07-09-2004, 10:18 PM
any idea what time it'll air in october?I think it's been determined to be October 17 (Sunday) and 18 (Monday) at 9-11 EST.
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 10:18 PM
Yes, I've seen all of the episodes. I started watching with the Premiere, and was a closet scaper for a long time. I'm not now, obviously, but I thought I screwed up by not putting in spoiler space. Good to know it wasn't serious. Thanks ya'll for letting me know how it stands.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:19 PM
Monday? Where was that posted? When I saw the Sunday schedule I just figured it would air on consecutive weeks at the same time.
SaraD
07-09-2004, 10:21 PM
I love spoilers. I do. I could read the whole script for the mini and it wouldn't take one jot, not one iota of pleasure away from watching it for the first time. There's such a huge difference between hearing what's going to happen and seeing how it all comes together. Of course I respect other people not wanting to hear about spoilers, but I just don't get it. Bring 'em on, say I.
I'm downloading the teaser now and watching it frame by frame. Is that Grunschlick, or just somebody of the same species? I was hoping never to run into him again, to tell the truth. And if that is the scene where J/A get reconstituted, how do you explain the gun in his hand? Weren't their weapons left behind in the ashes in the boat?
Digger
07-09-2004, 10:21 PM
No need for spoiler space in this thread I think Kathleen. Just look at the title, and the first post. I only added spoiler space because I was unsure from your reaction if you knew she was preggers of just speculating, in which case you might not have seen BT.
blueaeryn
07-09-2004, 10:23 PM
Okay I have to admit it because I have only seen Bad Timing twice :rolleyes: but I don't remember Aeryn sitting in John's lap in the boat (which seems a highly unlikely position for people to be in in a boat if you ask me). In fact, I thought John was kind of kneeling when he gave her the ring and then they were just holding on to each other when they went all crystally.
It's hard to tell from the angles that they show, but from the still it does kinda sorta look like Aeryn could be showing in that pic, but then that would mean it couldn't be immediately after they "decrystalize" or whatever they do to put Humpty and the missus back together. I may need to go watch the trailer a few dozen more times . . .
:joy:
After John proposed, Aeryn climbed on his lap and he pulled out the ring and put it on her finger. I remember because when Aeryn manuevered to sit on his lap she made a little half laugh and tilted slightly as the boat rocked. It is a great scene.
~Nikki
07-09-2004, 10:23 PM
Chiana's makeup looked a bit different to me, but maybe it was just me.........
Digger
07-09-2004, 10:23 PM
Monday? Where was that posted? When I saw the Sunday schedule I just figured it would air on consecutive weeks at the same time.I'm not sure where I saw it. It may just be speculation because skiffy initially posted the date at October 18, then changed it to October 17.
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 10:25 PM
OH yeah, I knew she was pregnant!!!! I love the mini pics of her being all pregnant and holding the pulse pistol... I think strong women who remain strong and don't take sh*t, even when pregnant, are sexy as hell!!
Digger
07-09-2004, 10:25 PM
After John proposed, Aeryn climbed on his lap and he pulled out the ring and put it on her finger. I remember because when Aeryn manuevered to sit on his lap she made a little half laugh and tilted slightly as the boat rocked. It is a great scene.Really? I could have sworn they were both standing up when they got freeze dried.
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 10:26 PM
From what I've seen, the mini will show for 2 hours on Sunday night and then the concluding 2 hours on Monday night.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:27 PM
Ah, okay. Well hopefully the October 17th is right and won't change (although I wouldn't bet the farm on it).
Everyone's makeup looks different (honestly I think they made Anth's head look smaller :lol ) but Ahkna (presumably that's Ahkna) looks extraordinarily different. Chi has cool kinda cat-like eyes. Apparently she's developed the ability to see while her eyes are still "whited out".
SaraD
07-09-2004, 10:27 PM
I repeat: what about the guns? They got left behind in the boat, and in the scene in question, John's got one in his hand. Right?
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:31 PM
You're right. They are certainly drawing their weapons. I wish I had some screen caps of Bad Timing because I just don't remember the last scene well enough (I'll correct that after I pick up 4.5 at Best Buy).
Perhaps the QuJagan crystalization can be reversed but it takes a Diagnosan to bring the recrystalized people "back to life" and before they were re-animated someone put their weapons back in their hands or holsters -- whoa, that's why I don't write fan fics.
And that certainly looks like the original Grunschlik but we haven't seen any good close-ups so it hard to tell.
blueaeryn
07-09-2004, 10:32 PM
Here is the pic. Yeah, they have their guns because they shoot them. Maybe D'Argo put them next to the dust for them to have when the got turned back.
divinedaydreams
07-09-2004, 10:34 PM
Ok anyone else notice that there are actually two trailers.
One starts with John and Aeryn talking the other is just music. I can't tell what else is different as everything moves so quickly.
SaraD
07-09-2004, 10:36 PM
I just remember the gun in the ashes, near the ring. I'm hoping somebody picked up the ring at some point.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:36 PM
They had a lot of the same stuff in them but yes, they are different. I particularly like the one with the boat at the beginning.
I WANT A LONGER TRAILER!!!! 3 MINUTES!!!!! I WANT A 3 MINUTE TRAILER!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
okay, I feel a little better now
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:37 PM
Rygel has the ring in his hand in one of the released promo shots (which makes perfect sense because you know he would have snurched it).
blueaeryn
07-09-2004, 10:38 PM
Here is the screen cap from BT.
AgentSun
07-09-2004, 10:38 PM
::sob::
SaraD
07-09-2004, 10:39 PM
you're absolutely right, Rygel would have snurched the ring. I hadn't noticed that he had it in any of the promo picks, but I'm off to have a look.
isn't this exciting? It's like a ... treasure hunt.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:39 PM
I'm sorry, I know this is extraordinarily superficial and ridiculously girlie, but THANK GOODNESS THEY CHANGED AERYN'S HAIR! (I hate that 4th season wig.)
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:40 PM
aeryncrichton pointed it out in a post on Kansas a week or so ago. It's the sort of "official" looking pic of Rygel.
blueaeryn
07-09-2004, 10:42 PM
I'm sorry, I know this is extraordinarily superficial and ridiculously girlie, but THANK GOODNESS THEY CHANGED AERYN'S HAIR! (I hate that 4th season wig.)
No, I totally agree. Aeryn's hair in season four was awful. The wig looked off and took away from CB's features. Her hair looks awesome in the promo pics.
BA
AgentSun
07-09-2004, 10:46 PM
yeah it does...it looks a bit fuller, a bit more natural...a lot more flow and bounce to it, a little bit of wave.
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 10:46 PM
I love Aeryn's look in the pictures. And that picture.. :cry2:... such a beautiful shot!!!! I wish I had the money to pick up the season box sets. I don't own a single Farscape dvd. Finances just won't allow it right now. Perhaps for my birthday.
AgentSun
07-09-2004, 10:47 PM
the season 1 box set is (at the least expensive) is 90 dollars at deepdiscountdvd.com and that's new...i don't buy used.
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 10:48 PM
yeah it does...it looks a bit fuller, a bit more natural...a lot more flow and bounce to it, a little bit of wave.
a little less like a horse's tail. :rolleyes:
AgentSun
07-09-2004, 10:52 PM
exactly.
blueaeryn
07-09-2004, 10:53 PM
Here are a couple of more screen caps.
faustus
07-09-2004, 10:54 PM
talk about a teaser trailer no story was imparted yet we've gone nuts trying to figure out what the frell's happening
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 11:00 PM
Well, to be fair, it's not that hard to make us go crazy. :hypno: :drool: :drunk:
faustus
07-09-2004, 11:03 PM
we allready are
Well, to be fair, it's not that hard to make us go crazy.
Well, I know I'm already completly tinked. My first reaction to the promo was "oh my god, they really did make it", because, yeah ... two years and finally new Farscape. It's almost hard to believe. :lol
Kathleen
07-09-2004, 11:13 PM
Okay, ya'll.... With all the excitement of the trailer being shown tonight for the mini, I just wanted to remind everyone to go and vote in the various polls. Go here -- http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?p=496753#post496753 and click on the links to vote. It's easy, only takes a few minutes and it'll help boost our people up in the polls!!!
On the nationalopinie (sp) one, after voting for the ladies, click on Polls up at the top and then on Mister to vote for our men. It's not in english, but it's pretty self-explanatory. Ben is currently at #22, and the others on down in the poll, but I'd love to see Ben take over the #21 or even #20 spot tonight!!! So please go vote!!! :D
OK, my views:
That Moya shot, where it looks like she might be getting blown up, that's definitely a CGI clip that was used in "Into The Lions Den - Part 1". Remember, when she tries to starburst, but the PKs catch her before she fully immerses? I'm sure it's the same CGI clip. (They do it a lot in Farscape, use CGI from other episodes). I say this with such certainty, because I'm in love with the ITLD duo, and have watched them several times since they aired a couple weeks ago. And when the teaser aired, I recognized it instantly. Farscapetv.com doesn't have the pic to back me up here, but I'm like positive on this.
Scorpy looking like Scorpy/John, that's Scorpius all right, but he doesn't look the same as he did during Season 4. Look at the promo pics. I always thought he looked somewhat odd. Different, just a little bit off. I worry that after the year, there's different make-up artists, who couldn't quite match the look. Even if they do have the entire make-up staff back, I don't think Scorpius looks exactly like he did. He's like...paler, and less pointy. He looks kind of uncomfortable in it.
That's my take on both those questionable issues, but I've been way wrong before. :dunno:
atlantagirl
07-09-2004, 11:36 PM
OK, my views:
That Moya shot, where it looks like she might be getting blown up, that's definitely a CGI clip that was used in "Into The Lions Den - Part 1". Remember, when she tries to starburst, but the PKs catch her before she fully immerses? I'm sure it's the same CGI clip. (They do it a lot in Farscape, use CGI from other episodes). I say this with such certainty, because I'm in love with the ITLD duo, and have watched them several times since they aired a couple weeks ago. And when the teaser aired, I recognized it instantly. Farscapetv.com doesn't have the pic to back me up here, but I'm like positive on this.
That's entirely possible. I was thinking it didn't look like an energy "weapon" blast -- which you would expect to be more focused. So a immobilizer pulse or energy net type thing (I totally don't remember what they used in ITLD) would make sense. Again, it could be an unrealized reality clip or a memory (or simply recycling -- they did spend a lot of money I couldn't really blame them if they pulled a "Chekov in front of the viewscreen" shot out of the vault).
waltersgirl
07-10-2004, 12:28 AM
:confused:
Did I say something wrong?
no Kathleen. sorry. ;)i was being sarcastic from all the huge spoiler/no spoiler discussions.
MediaSavant
07-10-2004, 12:35 AM
talk about a teaser trailer no story was imparted yet we've gone nuts trying to figure out what the frell's happening
That's one of the best definitions of "teaser", I've ever seen.
SaraD
07-10-2004, 12:48 AM
I'm sorry, I know this is extraordinarily superficial and ridiculously girlie, but THANK GOODNESS THEY CHANGED AERYN'S HAIR! (I hate that 4th season wig.)
hell yes. And the way they fiddled with her eyebrows. She looked (and acted) like a drowned puppy for a lot of season four, very dampened down and forlorn. I was thinking about this too because in the teaser, when John says 'will you marry me' she's still got that look on. I'm hoping she'll be back to normal in the mini and that they'll explain what the heck was going on with her in S4.
Spedoinkel
07-10-2004, 12:56 AM
We must be seeing some unrealized realities. Doncha think? Especially the whole TJohn stuff. Gotta be. Right?
What TJ stuff?
Nice teaser.
I don't know how many of you are precognative, but I get the feeling that about half the people here will be pissed off by the mini.
freebd99
07-10-2004, 01:01 AM
I like that Aeryn draws John's pulse pistol and John draw's Aeryn's pusle pistol. How fitting.
faustus
07-10-2004, 01:05 AM
I like that Aeryn draws John's pulse pistol and John draw's Aeryn's pusle pistol. How fitting.
right now how many times have you seen the trailer? I think you might need to go outside get some sun. I'll take over ;)
LiLOrion
07-10-2004, 05:20 AM
Well, I know I'm already completly tinked. My first reaction to the promo was "oh my god, they really did make it", because, yeah ... two years and finally new Farscape. It's almost hard to believe. :lol
I have no idea what "tinked" means, but the part after that...I said the same thing to myself. :D
Kathleen
07-10-2004, 08:48 AM
I would venture to guess, but I would think that "gone completely tinked" would mean that she has had one too many passes into la-la land----a few fries short of a happy meal----a sandwich short of a picnic..... I don't think it's permanent, but you never can tell with these sorts of things. Let's just say I HOPE it's not permanent! :D
As for the trailer, I just can't seem to get enough of watching it. I'm beginning to wonder if there is something off with me. I'm putting off going to work so that I can watch those precious 30 seconds just one.. more.. time!!!
stlscape
07-10-2004, 09:01 AM
I have no idea what "tinked" means, but the part after that...I said the same thing to myself. :D
Chiana said it in one of the episodes, meaning "Are you crazy?" Sorry, don't remember which episode or to whom it was directed.
atlantagirl
07-10-2004, 09:10 AM
I don't know how many of you are precognative, but I get the feeling that about half the people here will be pissed off by the mini.
Ha! Do you honestly think that ANYONE here is going to be pissed off by the mini even if nothing is as we "envision" it? All we want is Farscape . . . only Farscape. . . ;) Whatever they give us we will love and we will want more Farscape . . . MORE FARSCAPE. And if we are pissed off it will be in that "throwing stuff at the TV" way that only our fiendish friends at Farscape can accomplish and we will LOVE THEM for it. :hypno: :love: :encore:
RomCen
07-10-2004, 11:50 AM
That's what I said when I first spotted the trailor. Was yelling Oh! Oh! Oh! and jumping up and down, pointing at the TV. My hubby thought I was having some kind of fit or something.
I downloaded OboeCrazy's capture (thank you very much!) and I've watched it about six times. It doesn't look to me like Moya is getting hit so much as starbursting from a weird camera angle.
All's I can say is MORE! I WANT MORE!!!!!!!
Jellyfish
07-10-2004, 12:58 PM
What do you think is going on with D'Argo... in one scene he is sitting bloodied and in a bad way 'Boromir' style shooting a Charid in another he is fighting a ruling Scarran and then there is a scene where Chiana holds up his Quilta Blade as if in tribute.
I hope he makes it OK.
TINemo
07-10-2004, 01:54 PM
You people are amazing. So much detail from an almost sublinimally fast promo clip--or actually two, one even shorter. I have not reseen the promo, can't seem to download it, but I didn't see one tenth of what you're writing about. In the still promos over on Farscapeworld, Aeryn is definitely very pg in one with PK maternity leathers?????
If we can get this much discussion from 15 seconds or so of ad, imagaine the whole four hour mini. I hope scifi is aware of the stir they created with that little bit of air time. It can only help our cause.
SaraD
07-10-2004, 01:56 PM
they clunk down and then something like a parachute billows after them. -- early in the teaser. I'm wondering what they meant to communicate with this bit.
atlantagirl
07-10-2004, 02:00 PM
What do you think is going on with D'Argo... in one scene he is sitting bloodied and in a bad way 'Boromir' style shooting a Charid in another he is fighting a ruling Scarran and then there is a scene where Chiana holds up his Quilta Blade as if in tribute.
I hope he makes it OK.
I've watched the trailer in slow mo a few :rolleyes: times now and I believe the scene that you're interpreting as Chiana holding up D'Argo's quaalta blade is the same one that I interpret as Chi passing cabling up to someone. She's definitely holding something irregularly shaped and flexible (not like a quaalta blade). I think she's on Moya and they are patching something.
atlantagirl
07-10-2004, 02:01 PM
they clunk down and then something like a parachute billows after them. -- early in the teaser. I'm wondering what they meant to communicate with this bit.
Whoever it is, s/he appears (to me) to be wearing a leather duster like Crichton or Aeryn.
atlantagirl
07-10-2004, 02:04 PM
You people are amazing. So much detail from an almost sublinimally fast promo clip--or actually two, one even shorter.
Amazing. . . that's a really sweet way to put it. ;)
Don't worry TINemo, we didn't get that much detail in one viewing. I think a goodly number of us have slow mo'd frame by frame through both promos now quite a few times (and enjoyed every nano-moment again and again). :lol
Jellyfish
07-10-2004, 02:16 PM
Amazing. . . that's a really sweet way to put it. ;)
Don't worry TINemo, we didn't get that much detail in one viewing. I think a goodly number of us have slow mo'd frame by frame through both promos now quite a few times (and enjoyed every nano-moment again and again). :lol :roflmao: Yes I've watched it frame by frame several times now and might be guilty of over analysing!!! Its several nano-episodes!! :cloud9:
We'll just have to wait and see....
SaraD
07-10-2004, 02:45 PM
I personally think that DK was involved in putting it together. I'm sure he chuckled the whole time, knowing full well that we'd be pouring over it frame by frame like a crowd of obsessed film school geeks (of course, the shoe does fit, and it's already on my foot). Who else would throw things in there like those feet, and a maybe pregnant Aeryn, and images that move so fast that you're not sure you saw them -- until you slow it down? DK, is my guess.
atlantagirl
07-10-2004, 02:47 PM
I'm not sure what I'm seeing even when I slow it down. They were extraordinarily sneaky on this one. :ewink:
I've watched the trailer in slow mo a few :rolleyes: times now and I believe the scene that you're interpreting as Chiana holding up D'Argo's quaalta blade is the same one that I interpret as Chi passing cabling up to someone. She's definitely holding something irregularly shaped and flexible (not like a quaalta blade). I think she's on Moya and they are patching something.
I think it is the Qualta blade. I don't have the equipment get a screen capture, but I have it paused at the exact moment she lifts the object up, and it really looks like D'argo's Qualta blade. I think she's bringing it up to stab something that's laying below her. Hope it's not a dying D'argo.
atlantagirl
07-10-2004, 02:55 PM
Chiana said it in one of the episodes, meaning "Are you crazy?" Sorry, don't remember which episode or to whom it was directed.
At least in:
A Bug's Life (to D'Argo)
Lava's a Many Splendored Thing (to Sikozu)
probably others as well.
freebd99
07-10-2004, 05:06 PM
right now how many times have you seen the trailer? I think you might need to go outside get some sun. I'll take over ;)
I agree it's a great day in NYC. I've been slowwwing it down and playing over and over. It's just great to have NEW scape. We're all nuts for the show. Only for FARSCAPE!!
freebd99
07-10-2004, 05:08 PM
Chiana is about to kill someone with D'Argo's blade. Sloooww it down enough and you'll catch it.
:)
atlantagirl
07-10-2004, 07:14 PM
Y'all may be right. I've watched it frame by frame many times now and it's just too hard to tell exactly what I'm seeing, but it could be the quaalta blade (which seems to have been "reforged" since S4 and is a brighter color).
harveywhispers
07-10-2004, 10:07 PM
'Kay...not gonna read everything..just want to point a couple of things out....
1. Moya & Pilot were alive in Rock's story "Horizon's" (at least I believe both were).
2. Brian said anything that did get out (re: plot) was most likely a deliberate attempt to mess with us. Killing Moya & Pilot sure looks like something that they would throw at us to get us off the scent of the plot. Remember....we don't call the people evil genious(s) for no reason.
Spedoinkel
07-10-2004, 10:54 PM
Yeah Moya and Pilot were both there. Though Pilot had gotten a new humanoid bodyfrom the Builders, so he could walk around on his own and even leave Moya.
harveywhispers
07-10-2004, 10:57 PM
Yeah Moya and Pilot were both there. Though Pilot had gotten a new humanoid bodyfrom the Builders, so he could walk around on his own and even leave Moya.
Thought so :)
Spedoinkel
07-10-2004, 11:01 PM
Of course, from some of the spoilers we've heard, it may no longer be cannon.
Moya & Pilot were alive in Rock's story "Horizon's" (at least I believe both were).
What's this?
Scratch that. Got it.
Ouroboros
07-10-2004, 11:56 PM
An interesting thing I noticed is that toward the end of the trailer in one scene it looks as if D'argo is fighting hand to hand with Staleek. I wonder what that's going to be about.
Spedoinkel
07-11-2004, 12:03 AM
What's this?
In the last issue of Farscape magazine was a short story written by Rockne called Horizons. It is in his veiw how Farscape ends. Not the season or series fanally but the complete end of the story. It takes place about 200 years in the future.
atlantagirl
07-11-2004, 10:42 AM
I don't think Rockne ever intended Horizons to be canon so I wouldn't look to it too closely when trying to decide what could and couldn't happen in PKW.
I also wouldn't be surprised if all the clips from the teaser take place in the first half hour of the mini. :P
Has SciFi re-aired the teaser since SG-1? SciFi plays such crap (and it's sooo long between commercial breaks) that I haven't wanted to sit down and watch anything long enough to tell.
stlscape
07-11-2004, 11:40 AM
I also wouldn't be surprised if all the clips from the teaser take place in the first half hour of the mini. :P
This being Farscape, all the clips might even take place before the opening credits! :shocked:
atlantagirl
07-11-2004, 12:13 PM
:fear: :faint:
Oh, and if this is Ahkna she sure looks different. Almost as if it isn't the same person. That can't be right, though. Sure it is just the make-up.
In the words of Aeryn: "It's the hat." It seems to be furthe back on the head and shorter in hight. (or this may just be me.)
And looking at it i'd put my money on the shots being fired at Moya, being some sort of imobiliser.
Just to speculate when J&A where cristalised we saw some of them droping in to the water, could this have an efect on them when there re-asembled.
Marc.
(I apologise for the spelling.)
Spedoinkel
07-11-2004, 09:31 PM
Yeah I wondered about the bits that fell. Did they have to go fishing for those?
divinedaydreams
07-12-2004, 12:21 AM
I think someone mentioned Rygel being the logical choice to go get the pieces.
divinedaydreams
07-12-2004, 12:44 AM
Ok I have a feeling that everyone is way off on the person coming down from the ceiling in the trailer. If you look here at the pic and with a certain beloved priestess in mind I think you might see what I do.
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26072&page=1&pp=15
Go down to like the third posting and its the one they think is John coming down.
Spedoinkel
07-12-2004, 01:48 AM
Of course Rygel is the logical choice, he's aquatic.
dzynz
07-12-2004, 03:14 AM
What is this about T-John?
SabaceanBabe
07-12-2004, 06:48 AM
Ok I have a feeling that everyone is way off on the person coming down from the ceiling in the trailer. If you look here at the pic and with a certain beloved priestess in mind I think you might see what I do.
http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26072&page=1&pp=15
Go down to like the third posting and its the one they think is John coming down.
You know, that billowing *fabric* (not leather) sure did look blue to me...
Jeff O'Connor
07-12-2004, 10:35 AM
Hmm... maybe...
divinedaydreams
07-12-2004, 11:14 AM
Great way to make an enterance and I do remember rumors and maybe something with Virginia's name as a possible cast member.
blueaeryn
07-12-2004, 11:40 AM
What is this about T-John?
Some are bringing up T-John because in some of the promo shots John has a a wound then scar where T-John had one. I don't think he is coming back, I think John is just getting a scar he was always supposed to have.
Anyway, that would cheapen T-John's sacrfice. I think John is becoming the complete John again. He will get all the memories of John Crichton and the physical attributes as well.
BA
La Bomba
07-14-2004, 08:33 AM
I have no idea what "tinked" means, but the part after that...I said the same thing to myself. :D
It's a Farscape word. I heard Chiana use it last night when I was watching Fetal Attraction. As you've probably already guessed, it means 'crazy' or 'nuts'.
ETA: Sorry, didn't read all the replies before posting this.
grubosch
07-14-2004, 10:14 AM
I also though the same thing about Ahkna looking different. Of course a change in the make-up would have that effect, but it could very well be a different actress.
grubosch
07-14-2004, 10:17 AM
Oops. Sorry about posing a page one reply. Should'a looked ahead a bit. Lol!
La Bomba
07-14-2004, 10:17 AM
You know who it looked like to me? The actress who played the bone-eating creature in "bone to be Wild". Does the same actress play Ahkna?
stlscape
07-14-2004, 10:28 AM
You know who it looked like to me? The actress who played the bone-eating creature in "bone to be Wild". Does the same actress play Ahkna?
Yes she does. Ben's wife, Francesca Buller played M'Lee (Bone To Be Wild), Ro-Na (Look At The Princess trilogy), Raxil (Scratch N Sniff), and War Minister Ahkna.
La Bomba
07-14-2004, 11:24 AM
Thanks, stlscape! I thought I had read that somewhere. It's definitely her, then. Her makeup has just been altered. Look at pics of M'Lee and then the new PKW Ahkna pics. Same person under that makeup.
lobsteronmyhead
07-14-2004, 11:34 AM
Re: Ahkna
The image of Ahkna from the teaser looks different from the Ahkna in the pic that was released last month. Maybe it's the quality of the screen cap, or maybe it's just me ;) , but in the teaser she looks younger, somehow; softer, or something. Does anybody else think that?
: loby
La Bomba
07-14-2004, 11:38 AM
Yes, that's what made me think of M'Lee. M'Lee looked young as well, and she looks a lot like M'Lee in the trailer.
CeRell
07-14-2004, 03:52 PM
We need the mistros to post a side by side pic of 'old' Ahkna and 'new' Ahkna...
Re: Ahkna
The image of Ahkna from the teaser looks different from the Ahkna in the pic that was released last month. Maybe it's the quality of the screen cap, or maybe it's just me ;) , but in the teaser she looks younger, somehow; softer, or something. Does anybody else think that?
: loby
Yes I think there two different charcters.
If you look at there foreheads one seems to have ridges and the other not.....
The markings are also different.
http://img69.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Tvachi/SCIFI_1709.jpg
http://img69.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Tvachi/pkwteas1-018.jpg
atlantagirl
07-14-2004, 07:40 PM
Better living through Botox. Those both appear to be the same character to me.
Look at the markings on the forehead, there are two extre dashes ether side on the one below.
(just to say first pic is one of the spoiler ones, second is from the teaser.)
atlantagirl
07-14-2004, 08:12 PM
Yes, I see them, but I believe it's just an idiosyncracy of the makeup. If you look at Zhaan's makeup from episode to episode you'll see that it's never exactly the same twice. The change in this makeup is not something an average viewer would notice over the course of a 4 hour mini-series (most people won't compare screen caps side by side to see if there are subtle differences ;) ). So until the mini-series airs and we possibly find out otherwise, I'm going to assume both of those pics are Ahkna and that that's Francesca behind the makeup. :D
grubosch
07-15-2004, 08:01 AM
Yeah,... leave it to the DEVOTED to notice any minor change. Thanks for posting the side-by-side comparison. She doesn't look as different as I originally thought. Man!! I don't want to wish away the summer, but I CANNOT wait til October.
Imlego
07-16-2004, 04:59 AM
Why haven't anyone noticed this? I think it's clear that John is holding something in his hands and Aeryn's protecting the same thing with her hand and body - is it the baby?
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dani.fernandez-moure/pkwteas1/pkwteas1-023.jpg
lobsteronmyhead
07-16-2004, 05:08 AM
:eek: Holding BABY??!!?? Hmmmm..... the picture's pretty good, for being a frame from the teaser - but still I can't be sure what it is - of course, now that you mention it, I DO see him holding something. If I give myself a few minutes, I can probably convince myself that it is, indeed, the baby.
Wow - great eyes, Imlego!!! :)
: loby
Sponge
07-16-2004, 05:28 AM
Oh, and if this is Ahkna she sure looks different. Almost as if it isn't the same person. That can't be right, though. Sure it is just the make-up.
As fgar as I'm aware, it is Ahkna. Does look a lot different, I agree. I'm just glad they gave her a better hat this time - the Series 4 one was horrible. I quite like the new look.
SabaceanBabe
07-16-2004, 05:55 AM
That pic looks more to me like Aeryn is returning fire from someone off screen and that John had his hands up in a reflexive defensive move, after being startled by the shot that Aeryn is returning. It doesn't look to me like John is holding anything or that there is anything there on the other side of Aeryn's pulse pistol.
But that's just me. :shrug:
As fgar as I'm aware, it is Ahkna. Does look a lot different, I agree. I'm just glad they gave her a better hat this time - the Series 4 one was horrible. I quite like the new look.
I would just like to point out that both those pics are from the mini. one a teaser one a spoiler.
Spedoinkel
07-16-2004, 02:14 PM
I would have to agree with SabaceanBabe
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