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Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 01:46 PM
Adjusters assess storm damage to West Edmonton Mall
Last Updated Mon, 12 Jul 2004 21:48:44
EDMONTON - Parts of the West Edmonton Mall will stay closed for an undetermined time as insurance adjusters examine the damage from a severe hailstorm Sunday.


Water gushes from what should be a drain at West Edmonton Mall

Mall general manager Gary Hanson said stores in most of the building were opening as usual on Monday morning, but the water park would open later in the day and the most badly damaged section of the mall will remain closed.

Hanson said it will cost millions to repair and clean up that section of the mall.

Sunday's storm damaged the roof and forced the evacuation of 30,000 people from the world's largest shopping mall.

Water was ankle-deep in parts of the 800-store mall after pipes on the second floor burst.

Tens of thousands of customers and employees streamed out into a flooded parking lot, where the water rose as high as waist level because ice from the hail had blocked storm sewers.

Kathleen Smith was in the mall's water park when the storm hit.

"The water was almost up to our knees in the change room, with raw sewage floating in the water," she said.

The mall's NHL-sized ice rink and indoor amusement park were flooded as sections of the roof ripped open under the force of the hail and pounding rain. Witnesses said they saw a waterfall flowing from the centre's second level.


FROM JULY 9, 2004: Alberta cleaning up from tornado

Elsewhere in Edmonton, five apartment buildings also had to be evacuated because flooding in an underground parking lot had forced gasoline from the tanks of submerged cars, causing a fire and health hazard.


Cars in Edmonton were almost submerged as ice blocked storm sewers.

Hailstones ranging in size from golf balls to baseballs left a frosty coating of slush on lawns and sidewalks throughout Edmonton. Many streets were impassable by vehicle, leading people to wade through knee-deep water under a darkened, green-tinged sky.

Jeremy Levy was one of the many motorists who were stranded.

"I'm in three feet of water and my car is not going anyplace," he said. "This is July, might I add. Welcome to Edmonton."


Slush on Edmonton's sidewalks

There were reports of flash flooding as well, including one report of a 15-metre wide wall of water in the city's Laurier Park. As the water began to rise, people were forced to climb on top of picnic tables, and garbage cans floated away in the flood waters.

Sunday's deluge was Edmonton's third major rainstorm this month.

Adding to the weather misery on the weekend, forecasters also warned people to be on the lookout for tornadoes after witnesses spotted funnel clouds in two locations northeast of Edmonton.

One touched down near Andrew. The other one, near Morinville, lifted a garage and moved it 200 metres. A local farmer also reported a grain bin missing.

On Thursday afternoon, a tornado swept through Grande Prairie, about 450 kilometres northwest of Edmonton. No one was injured, but a car was flipped, hydro poles snapped and shingles were ripped from roofs.

link (http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/07/12/canada/edmonton_storm_new040712)

Written by CBC News Online staff

I've gotten some pictures via email of the whitemud freeway (about 1/4 mile south of the mall).

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 01:47 PM
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Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 01:48 PM

grinner
07-14-2004, 01:51 PM
surfs up?

BaseLine
07-14-2004, 01:54 PM
Let's continue to frell the Kyoto protocol.

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 01:56 PM
That's NOT snow. It's HAIL! :eek:

grinner
07-14-2004, 02:00 PM
Let's continue to frell the Kyoto protocol.
whatever.

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 02:02 PM
Oh, and don't get me started on Kyoto. Bunch of bandwagon-jumpers who wouldn't know Earth processes if it bit them in the HEY HEY!

15 000 years ago, the volume of space where I'm sitting right now (on the 32nd floor of an office tower) was completely encolsed in Ice. The Ice Age didn't end because great-grandfather Ugg was driving an SUV.

Climate Change is a NATURAL process (it's what my entire job is based upon: figuring out ancient climate change/sea level changes and how they affect the way the rocks were deposited, so I can drill for oil and gas).

The issue is how much of the recent climate issues are natural vs man made. And we just don't have all the data in yet.

who45
07-14-2004, 02:03 PM
That's NOT snow. It's HAIL! :eek: :eek:

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 02:03 PM
But before this gets political,

MORE PICTURES!!!

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 02:04 PM
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AgentSun
07-14-2004, 02:05 PM
::hides under her covers::

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 02:05 PM
Last 3

VBKatLou
07-14-2004, 02:47 PM
Where's Edmonton?

And that's hail???!!! What did it do? Start freezing together? What's the temperature there?

(I thought it was ice from the rink when I first looked at it)

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 02:53 PM
Sorry about the size, it was the first one I googled...

http://www.watertoninfo.ab.ca/images/mapabbig.gif

SOURCE (http://www.watertoninfo.ab.ca/mapab.html)

Edmonton is the big red blob in the 'middle' (it's roughly on the same Parallel as Moscow --around the 54th.)

And putting the above map into context:

http://atlas.gc.ca/rasterimages/english/maps/reference/national/canada_eng.jpg

Source:Atlas of Canada website (http://atlas.gc.ca/site/english/index.html)

I-am-so-Johns-girl
07-14-2004, 03:08 PM
Wow Kurt....I'm speachless..... :eek:

Girlie :curtsey:

p.s. Do you live there????

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 03:10 PM
That's "home" but I'm in Calgary now.

BlackThorn
07-14-2004, 03:34 PM
Any good fishing at the mall now?

:duck:

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 04:09 PM
Not since they got rid of the Dolphins...

Clarsax
07-14-2004, 04:15 PM
That's NOT snow. It's HAIL! :eek:

:eek: Wow, hail? That must have been some storm.

Third EYe
07-14-2004, 04:59 PM
Canada looks small when you show it that way, you should have used the larger actual size map. make them find it themselves.

My brother has been traveling back and forth from Calgary to Edmonton for the last month or so, cause his counterpart up there got fired (jackass).

He hasn't mentioned any of this to me. I'm gonna call him.

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 05:02 PM
Hope it's not daily, or at least his company's flying him. It's a good 3 hour commute by car... :eek: (2.5 with a radar detector :innocent: )

As for the map, if people can't figure out where Maine and Alaska are, we're in for a world of trouble! ;)

Plus, the Alberta Map isn't quite accurate, but too lazy to find a better one (My place in Calgary, for example, is 1/2 mile east of the confluence of those two rivers SW of where the map has the "city" placed, but close enough! ;) )

Third EYe
07-14-2004, 05:09 PM
He was driving, if you can call his weaving from side to side driving. I've never been there, cause I'm lazy and , well there's no and, i'm just lazy. I hope to get up that way sometime. When i do, I'll be sure to bring a damned helmet.

Kurt_eh
07-14-2004, 05:17 PM
Wow, IMHO, Alberta drivers are a mite better than grinner's description of driving in Houston :eek:

Plus with all the provincial revenue from the Oil Patch (think texas north), our roads are the best in Canada!

Pick any direction and:

Y_u _a_ t_LL _h_r_ t_e _o_r_e_ i_!
_o_ c_n _e_ w_e_e _h_ b_a_d_r _s!