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Pheonixphire
07-15-2004, 12:52 PM
Anybody have any speculation on how they reconstitute Aeryn and John? They were fragmented into thousands of sections of minute crystals when last we saw them. I really want to know how they explain this one! I am sure they will do it in grand Farscape style!
I know I would not want the job of putting them together piece by piece! The "healing" aspects of the ocean they were in could give the race that deatomized them a means of rejuvenating them. Okay debate, and give ideas people. I want to know what you all are thinking. :trans:

DamonAO
07-15-2004, 01:36 PM
I suspect that the aliens who di it to them retrieve them is some fashion just after the end of Bad Timing and reconstitute them for analysis.

Bargaintuan
07-15-2004, 03:51 PM
I think they will corporealize Harvey in the process, as a side effect. That would explain that clip from the teaser nobody can figure out. ;)

cro
07-15-2004, 04:50 PM
Well, there's the scene in the teaser where J&A are in the same pose they were in in the boat, surrounded by a groupd of people (including a Diagnosian, a Grunschlik look-a-like and a Qujagan), inside what appears to be a cantraption of some sort - so maybe they're reconstitued by the Diagnosian with the help of the Qujagan? You see them immediately drawing weapons as they light fades...

Anubis
07-15-2004, 05:15 PM
Maybe the Moya crew try to use wormholes to go back in time, who knows, either that or we could go for the obvious answer, the head-splitting aliens were talking about "analysis", they probably heard about the wormhole tech and just went after him.

I think that's probably the biggest question scapers have about the mini.

Kinda ironic how everyone's trying to get John and aquire the wormhole knowledge unsucessfully, than some aliens come out of nowwhere and "Schwoop" em for analysis just like that.

Col.Batguano
07-15-2004, 07:59 PM
I vaguely recall a "Doctor Who" episode (assuming it was Dc. who) where some one was beamed up but debris was left behind to make it look like they where disintegrated,
or the transmat beam proses left a residual debris behind that would make people think that the subject beamed up was dead.
I’m thinking along the lines from the episode "Eat Me", when Crichton was twinned by the Psycho on board the dead Leviathan who was twinning the former crew in order to keep a constant supply of fresh Brains.
well maybe they grabbed a sample of John and Aeryn's bio rhythms or how ever the twinning technology works and reconfigured them elsewhere in a controlled environment, where they could keep them captured, and also leave biological debris behind to make any companions believe they where dead .
when I first saw "Bad Timing", and John and Aeryn getting Zapped like that a vague memory from my child hood of seeing something like that before just clicked in my head, (I’m assuming Doctor Who) and since Farscape pays tribute to great Sci Fi of the past I just can’t help but think that.

I just know I’ve seen it some where before.

Quadrifoglio
07-15-2004, 09:57 PM
The worrying bit is that some of the crystals plopped down into the water. Maybe they get re-constituted sans a few minor bits that are lost at the bottom of that ocean! :)

Anubis
07-15-2004, 11:08 PM
I vaguely recall a "Doctor Who" episode (assuming it was Dc. who) where some one was beamed up but debris was left behind to make it look like they where disintegrated,
or the transmat beam proses left a residual debris behind that would make people think that the subject beamed up was dead.

Someone else on here said there was something on Star Trek: The Original Series or something similar where this happened, but the "particles" were the people's clothes, and the people were safetly transported somewhere else.

But Henson and co. always make it sound like their "reconstituted" in like every article referring to the mini, so I don't know what to think really.

*And what the hell is Doctor Who? I know it's a show but.....:gets ready for a slappin':

TheBladeRoden
07-15-2004, 11:56 PM
C'mon man! You don't know the WHO? I mean, c'mon, it's the WHO!

Bargaintuan
07-16-2004, 02:50 AM
I just had an awesome thought. If Harvey can be corporealized from John's brain, then so can Zhaan! She's shared Unity with both John and Aeryn, after all! :)

freckle
07-16-2004, 12:00 PM
CRO
thats the best theory ive heard, i'm with you on that one,i watched the teaser very carefully and your absolutely right it is the same pose.
what bothers me though is that they didnt seem all that bothered that they were about to be fired on,ok they were in lovey dovey mood,and aeryn had just been proposed too, but i suspect that aeryns previous comment, ' you and your timing' had deeper significance.i think she knew it was coming!

Col.Batguano
07-16-2004, 04:43 PM
Cro, I just saw the trailer at Syfy, (where I could pause it) and all though I didn't see a Diagnosian, the other guy could actually be Grunschlik defrosted, but I'm starting to go with your idea because Dargo is definitely there and when John and Aeryn draw there pistols only two guys on the end draw back at them,and Dargo, Grunschlik and the Qujagan, just calmly stand there, that tells me that some time has past instead of John and Aeryn being instantly beamed some where, and that J&A's arrival was prepared for.
just a word of caution though me and some friends where speculating like this about Star Wars Clone Wars based on what turned out to be a bogus trailer put out to throw everyone off.
but based on what I saw, I agree with you.

buckwheat the 16th
07-17-2004, 07:18 PM
perhaps the beam stole there "souls" and they were able to synthisize them back to coporial form. Because picking up the pieces and then getting them all back together in the right bodies seems like a pain in the @#$ (neck). But it is fiction so who cares!

chasa
07-17-2004, 08:41 PM
what bothers me though is that they didnt seem all that bothered that they were about to be fired on,ok they were in lovey dovey mood,and aeryn had just been proposed too, but i suspect that aeryns previous comment, ' you and your timing' had deeper significance.i think she knew it was coming!

I don't think she knew it was coming, I just think it was a comment on how they wanted to spend those last few moments. They realized that they were under attack (though I don't think either of them knew what was going to happen) and also knew that they didn't have time to make it back to Moya. So, rather than expending a bunch of energy on a vain attempt to escape, they made the most of that moment by spending it together.

And re the particles that fell into the water, I read some spoilery stuff (maybe in the SciFi chat with Henson?) about how those are handled...not sure if this spec thread is a good place to mention that, though!

grinner
07-17-2004, 08:55 PM
*And what the hell is Doctor Who? I know it's a show but.....:gets ready for a slappin':
evil, evil person. For shame. You don't know what the longest continuously running Science Fiction show of Television is? From 1963 until 1989, this show enthralled millions of people worldwide. The BBC website for Doctor Who (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/index.shtml).

Antrobus
07-17-2004, 08:55 PM
And re the particles that fell into the water, I read some spoilery stuff (maybe in the SciFi chat with Henson?) about how those are handled...not sure if this spec thread is a good place to mention that, though!

Well, it was posted in a thread here what Brian Henson said. I won't mention it, but anyone who wants to go back and read the transcript of that chat cancheck it out. There was the bit about the ring which would make BH's statement sound somewhat true. I have a feeling that we may not see that part, but it will be referred to in the early part of the mini

As for my thought, I think they'll just add water and refrigerate - like jello!

Doc Holiday
07-17-2004, 09:04 PM
I think that the Bad Timing aliens will reconstitute them andI thonk you will find their race to have a big part.

buckwheat the 16th
07-17-2004, 11:34 PM
I just had an awesome thought. If Harvey can be corporealized from John's brain, then so can Zhaan! She's shared Unity with both John and Aeryn, after all! :)

And why not Crais and Tayln as well, since Aryen was linked to them when she got the "finger of friendship".

CeRell
07-18-2004, 06:27 AM
Harvey is a non corporal being. Zhaan was flesh and blood. It takes just a few chemicals in John's Brain to recreate Harvey. Zhaan, would take matter.

Antrobus
07-18-2004, 06:43 AM
Miracle Grow?

scaperbuddy
07-18-2004, 07:14 AM
Maybe she never died. You never know with Sci-fi shows. I'm not convinced totally that she is. We never saw her body.

Tva
07-18-2004, 08:29 AM
I'm likeing the sound of this but am also sceptical, we seem to be going into the relam of having dehydrated powdered characters (just add water.).

Pheonixphire
07-18-2004, 12:25 PM
I like powderized forms of characters. They taste good and keep well. Then when you want the show to come back give them some water and they are the same as they were when you left 'em. Mmmm jello.

I dont know anything about Doctor Who either - that must be from ancient times ;)

Pheonixphire
07-18-2004, 12:27 PM
Oh and by the way can some one PM me the section of the chat that Henson alludes to how they make john and Aeryn out of crystals?

Col.Batguano
07-18-2004, 02:58 PM
Oh and by the way can some one PM me the section of the chat that Henson alludes to how they make john and Aeryn out of crystals?
Me too, Please.





I just watched "Bad Timing" last night, and alot of it backs up what Cro said.

Tva
07-18-2004, 03:43 PM
And me if you don't mind.

chasa
07-18-2004, 05:37 PM
I PMed the three of you. The excerpt deals with the issue of crystallized particles falling in the water, though, Pheonixphire, not with how they are reconstituted.

Pheonixphire
07-25-2004, 03:07 PM
Ahhhh so it is good grumpy old Rygel to the Rescue!?!?!