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AgentSun
08-06-2004, 06:44 PM
i think i should've added a poll...

Baseball concentrating attention on Northern Virginia, Washington
By RONALD BLUM, AP Sports Writer
August 6, 2004

NEW YORK (AP) -- Major league executives planning the move of the Montreal Expos have spent most of the past two months concentrating on the bids of Northern Virginia and downtown Washington, a top baseball official said Friday.

Baseball met again Thursday with the Northern Virginia group, according to the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The other areas that have submitted bids -- Las Vegas; Monterrey, Mexico; Norfolk, Va.; Portland, Ore., and San Juan, Puerto Rico -- have not officially been eliminated, but baseball has not devoted as much effort in recent weeks to examining their proposals, the official said.

Two high-ranking team executives, also speaking on the condition of anonymity, said this week that the choice pretty much had been narrowed to Northern Virginia and downtown Washington.

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Commissioner Bud Selig repeatedly has said he does not want to harm the Baltimore Orioles, who play about 40 miles from the capital, and the team executives said those statement have put renewed focus for some owners on the bid by Northern Virginia, which has proposed building a stadium in Loudoun County near Dulles International Airport, about 60 miles from the Orioles' Camden Yards ballpark.

Orioles owner Peter Angelos has opposed moving the Expos to either area, saying in June that ``another major league baseball franchise in close proximity would result in two mediocre franchises from a competitive standpoint.''

The executives said it remains unclear which bid has the most support. The move will not be put to a vote when owners meet in Philadelphia on Aug. 18-19, and Selig has not set any timetable for a decision other than to say he hopes the team can move for the 2005 season.

Brian Hannigan, a spokesman for the Northern Virginia group, declined comment on Thursday's meeting.

If either Northern Virginia or Washington is chosen, plans call for the Expos to at first move to downtown RFK Stadium, former home of the expansion Washington Senators. A new ballpark wouldn't open until 2007 or 2008.

But if Northern Virginia's bid wins, a lease would have to be negotiated for RFK with the D.C. Sports and Entertainment Commission, which controls and operates the ballpark. That could become a sticking point.

``I've told major league baseball that the sports commission will not foreclose the possibility and will, if asked, discuss the matter with the Loudan County folks,'' sports commission chairman Mark Tuohey said. ``But it must be understood that the issue of RFK would have pretty stringent financial and nonfinancial terms that would have to accommodate D.C. United, which would be our primary tenant.

``If a Washington franchise is awarded, we would use off of our resources, and we will have the full cooperation of Major League Soccer to make two Washington franchises work smoothly. With another team from another area, those considerations would be different.''

William Collins, who wants to buy the Expos if Northern Virginia's bid wins, didn't think an RFK lease would be an obstacle.

``We've already negotiated two leases with the stadium over the years,'' he said. ``The leases were very fair, almost to the point of being very favorable.''

Once the location for the Expos is chosen, baseball will push forward on soliciting bids to purchase the franchise, which was bought by the other 29 teams from Jeffrey Loria before the 2002 season. Collins and Fred Malek, who has pushed for Washington's proposal, could find themselves competing against other groups -- or each other.

``I don't think any of my partners would make that investment downtown,'' Collins said.

source (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpa2lpNnFzBF9TAzk1ODYxNzc3BHNlYwN0 bQ--?slug=ap-exposmove&prov=ap&type=lgns)

i'm not sure whether they realize just how much worse traffic would be for residents, if they were to do this in loudoun county, near dulles airport, a mere 15 minutes away from me. oy! i don't mind a baseball team...i think i might mind a baseball stadium.

grinner
08-06-2004, 07:05 PM
Um, I don't think that there can be a team in DC. Since DC is 60 miles from Baltimore, I am surprised the ownership isn't threatening so sue everyone. If I were Peter Angelos, I would be against this most vociferously.

AgentSun
08-06-2004, 07:08 PM
the bid on the stadium is either for No. Va or DC. the team would be in DC. as far as i can tell, the only dispute is where to build a stadium, not where to put a team...

grinner
08-06-2004, 07:11 PM
No, Bud Selig said he WANTS the team in the DC area. Angelos can still screw the deal as he has the right of FIRST REFUSAL for the 100 mile radius of HIS Franchise. There have been at least 2 attempts to put a team in the DC area that he successfully defeated. Since MLB owns the Expos, Selig thinks he can place the team anywhere he wants. He is going to LOSE... as in his Contract with MLB, Angelos can refuse to accept a team within the 100 Mile radius.

shadowshiv
08-06-2004, 07:13 PM
Since I am Canadian, I do NOT like this potential move. Before the strike in 1994 the Expos had great attendance. Everyone said "If baseball goes on strike, I will not watch another game.". Well, the people of Montreal did just that. Now, the attendance is horrible. I don't blame them for not showing up. Maybe if everybody did what they said they were going to, the salaries would not be as high as they are. :(

AnnieBW
08-06-2004, 07:16 PM
I'm an Orioles fan, and I live halfway between Baltimore and DC. I'd happily support a National League team in DC or NoVA, and so would many others. This area is so large, it can easily support two teams. New York, Chicago, the San Francisco Bay area, and the Los Angeles/Anaheim area do. We're at least as large of a media market as SF/Oakland is. We also support two NFL teams. Besides, Angelos is an a**hole! He claims that "people in Washington aren't really baseball fans." Yet they travel long distances to support HIS team!

Honestly, I would probably choose an Orioles game over a game in Northern VA, because of where we live and where our loyalties lie. But that doesn't mean that I would entirely rule it out. It's just that it takes me at least an hour to get to the Dulles Airport area, and there's no public transportation out there. But there's a lot of people on the other side of the Potomac that feel that it's a pain to go to Orioles games. So, bring it on!

bubblez
08-06-2004, 08:24 PM
Great idea. 9 more guys in DC with bats...

vikingscaper
08-06-2004, 08:32 PM
If I remember correctly, Washington D.C. had two chances with baseball teams. The first time was with the Senators but they ended up moving to Minnesota and became the Twins. The second time with a team also failed and that team also ended up moving. I honestly have no idea how a baseball team would work in D.C. or in Northern Virginia but if they think that it would work out, then go ahead and move the team there. Now, if they were trying to move the Twins, I would be totally against that. Leave the Twins alone!

Saajak
08-06-2004, 08:41 PM
vs is right. DC had two prior opportunities to host a MLB team and failed miserably. The Twins and the Rangers are the result of these endeavors. Does anyone have any other valid options to host a MLB team?