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AgentSun
08-29-2004, 07:15 AM
about time...


Eateries Push for Obesity Suit Protection

Sat Aug 28, 4:33 PM ET
By IRA DREYFUSS, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Bills to protect restaurants and food companies against lawsuits by people who claim the meals or snacks made them fat are moving ahead in the states like hamburgers passed out a drive-thru window.

Measures known as "cheeseburger bills" bar people from seeking damages in court from food companies for weight gain and associated medical conditions, including heart disease and diabetes.

Supporters say the proposals shield businesses from having to pay to defend themselves against frivolous suits. Opponents contend the claims often are valid and ought to be heard in court.

Two cases against McDonald's accused the company of causing obesity in thousands of children. In dismissing the cases last year, U.S. District Judge Robert Sweet in New York said consumers ought to know that eating lots of fast food can make them fat and that they cannot ask courts to "protect them from their own excesses."

That ruling has not stopped lawyers from holding conferences on how to win such claims. Also, the possibility of a legal defeat haunts the food industry, whose leaders say they should not be held responsible for people's eating decisions.

Many lawmakers agree.

So far this year, a dozen states have enacted laws against such suits, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

A Washington state law prohibits people from suing food manufacturers, sellers and advertisers based on claims arising from people's weight gain, obesity, or related health conditions.

The law, backed by the state restaurant association, keeps the responsibility for eating where it belongs, said Democratic state Rep. Patricia Lantz.

"It was so common sense," said Lantz, a trial lawyer who heads the House Judiciary Committee (news - web sites) in her state. "Most people don't see any reason to impose liability for an individual's inability to push himself away from the dinner table."

Similar bills have won approval in other states. But efforts at passing a national shield have faltered in Congress.

One bill, sponsored by Rep. Ric Keller (news, bio, voting record), R-Fla., was passed by the House. A second, sponsored by Sen. Mitch McConnell (news, bio, voting record), R-Ky., is before a Senate Judiciary Committee subcommittee.

The prospects that a ban will pass are not good because time is running out on the congressional calendar and lawmakers are facing re-election in November.

The issue is politically charged. Republicans say companies need protection from greedy lawyers. Democrats say that the courts should decide whether the cases are worth hearing.

Some consumer advocates also oppose the laws. "These cheeseburger bills are shameful efforts to deprive the public of the right to have a day in court if they feel they have been aggrieved," said Michael Jacobson, executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest.

Class-action lawyers will find ways around the state laws, and big fast-food companies could be their targets, predicts John Banzhaf, professor of public interest law at George Washington University.

Banzhaf, who favors the suits, said companies could be vulnerable for failing to tell customers how much fat is in their food.

"Is it a shoo-in? No," said Banzhaf, who helped mastermind suits against the tobacco industry. "But if we pick our plaintiffs carefully, the guy who eats there every day, we can make our cases stick."



i think this is something that should happen....restaurants' food should not be responsible for anyone's obesity. they are responsible for it.

who45
08-29-2004, 07:27 AM
I agree, the resturants and fast food industry should not be held responsible. Now days, at least down here where I live, most resturants and fast food places carry a choice of healthier items. People just need to educate themselves on what is considered healthier food wise.

Third EYe
08-29-2004, 07:43 AM
Can I sue Budweiser for being a drunk? People who try such lawsuits should get jail time.

Rhys
08-29-2004, 07:51 AM
This is good - the only exception should be if a restaurant misrepresents what is in their food (e.g. claiming it has less calories than it does, or something like that), which would already be covered by other laws.

(For example, Third EYe, you could sue Budweiser for claiming to be a "beer". :) )

Rhys

BaseLine
08-29-2004, 07:52 AM
Can I sue Budweiser for being a drunk?

No, but you can sue them for putting horse piss in a bottle.

Third EYe
08-29-2004, 07:53 AM
(For example, Third EYe, you could sue Budweiser for claiming to be a "beer". :) )

Rhys


Hmm? I'm calling a lawyer......

scaperbuddy
08-29-2004, 08:10 AM
If people could sue restruants then they could sue the cany makers and so on and so etc. I am chubby and it's my own fault for eating too much junk. Others should hold their own selves accountable and get educated. Most people know. I am a nurse and work around alot of overweight people and they admit they know how they got the weight on. I've offered information to those who don't about good nutrition and exercise.

LT Garrix
08-29-2004, 09:26 AM
Some consumer advocates also oppose the laws. "These cheeseburger bills are shameful efforts to deprive the public of the right to have a day in court if they feel they have been aggrieved," said Michael Jacobson, executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest.

Class-action lawyers will find ways around the state laws, and big fast-food companies could be their targets, predicts John Banzhaf, professor of public interest law at George Washington University.

Banzhaf, who favors the suits, said companies could be vulnerable for failing to tell customers how much fat is in their food.

Okay, fastfood didn't have fat and calorie contents available until something like 8 or 9 years ago, if I recall correctly, but still... Anyone remember the Simpsons eppie where Homer was trying to gain wait? Dr. Nick said that if it turned the paper clear you should eat it to gain wait because it was high in fat.

I think these laws are good. People should be held accountable for their own eating habits. Come on, half the stuff there was deep fat fried and anyone that's cooked a hamburger at home knows they are greasy and high in fat unless you spend the extra bucks on the low fat cut, which no resataurant would do.

Just sickens me that people feel the need to sue because they are overweight from eating fast food. A diet that comes in shades of brown is not healthy.

Rhys
08-29-2004, 09:39 AM
When you get right down to it, people don't want to sue because they feel they've been wronged, they want to sue because it looks like a quick payday - and I don't mean only in this case.

Yes, there are legitimate lawsuits out there, but there are far too many that are not, and we all suffer. Insurance costs go up, which means the price of the product goes up, or companies decide it's just not worth doing business...

Unless, of course, we want to move towards 90% of the population being lawyers. :-/

Rhys

Mike0812
08-29-2004, 10:11 AM
Okay, fastfood didn't have fat and calorie contents available until something like 8 or 9 years ago, if I recall correctly, but still... Anyone remember the Simpsons eppie where Homer was trying to gain wait? Dr. Nick said that if it turned the paper clear you should eat it to gain wait because it was high in fat.

I think these laws are good. People should be held accountable for their own eating habits. Come on, half the stuff there was deep fat fried and anyone that's cooked a hamburger at home knows they are greasy and high in fat unless you spend the extra bucks on the low fat cut, which no resataurant would do.

Just sickens me that people feel the need to sue because they are overweight from eating fast food. A diet that comes in shades of brown is not healthy.

Well said LTG. That was a good Simpsons ep :D. Having struggled with my eating habits over the years, I know that nobody forces me to eat the crap that I eat. It's all me, usually a reflection of my state of mind. It's really quite simple, YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT. I think it's ludicrous for people to blame the restaurants for their own particular poor eating habits. It's enough that we're gonna have to pay for the enormous health care costs that are associated with unhealthy lifestyles...

Darth Buddha
08-29-2004, 10:33 AM
Depends, now, folks. There have been schools in the past that have given contracts for school lunches to fast food chains... a kiosk for Pizza Hut, a kiosk for McDonalds, etc. I think most of that ended a good while ago... but were there still some in place, then we'd be on that slippery slope.

Clearly protection against frivolous lawsuits is needed. That does not mean that all such lawsuits would be frivolous.

Moreover, you'd be surprised at how little some folks know about nutrition. My former sister-in-law was age 25 and AMAZED at what she learned about carbohydrates, proteins, etc. She had no clue prior. Or a buddy of mine who is quite bright in most things whose doctor told him to eat real peanut butter to get his good cholesterol up. He at a Jif PB&J breakfast and lunch every day... not realizing that most name brands aren't real having replaced all the natural peanut oil with transfats. To assume that general knowledge of such things is high enough to fend for oneself is not valid. Consider all our highschool dropouts in this country... or don't their veins mean anything?

Most of these things can be answered by better labelling (which, unfortunately, the Bush admin has stopped in its tracks - I really don't see that this is a Republican/Democrat issue, so I don't get why).

To me this is a good case study. About the time you think anything is clear black and white, you can assume you are probably missing something.

I even worked a year and change in the food industry... AS AN ADDITIVES & OILS ANALYST and I'm sure that I am missing LOTS!