Farwhat.com

[Red]

Yesterday we launched www.farwhat.com and some of you have already made some great comments about the site. Websites are ever changing critters, we'll probably change, add or remove things as we go (provided the designers don't throttle me), so feel free to continue commenting on the site. We may not use all the suggestions, but you never know what will help make the site even better.

This website was made to be an advertisement to non-fans. It's meant to reach out to new eyeballs -- eyeballs that have never seen Farscape before. We didn't want to overwhelm them with too much information, but we did want to give enough of a taste so that they have what they need to watch the mini-series this October.

We picked the domain "farwhat.com" because it's a rather intriguing name. It's a question, and hopefully it'll make some folks want to know what the answer is. The domain name is easy to remember, and the site is quick to load (the flash may take a few seconds longer, but the main page itself loads right quick), so it's a good site to pass around to others.

In order for this site to reach its audience, however, it needs you. You're the folks who are out there spreading the word about Farscape and the mini-series. Please feel free to take the link to farwhat.com and pass it around. Put it on flyers, on bumperstickers, on banner ads, on print ads, on anything else you can slap a URL on.

I put out a call for graphics for flyers, buttons, banners, stickers, etc, in the Eye Candy forum. So if you've got any ideas or things you want to post so other people can download them and print them out, please do.

Farwhat.com is another great tool for you to use in your advertisements for Farscape. :D

Thanks to everybody who helped make this fantastic site (particularly all of you who proposed ideas and who provided feedback through the whole design process). :D

[fermicat]

Looks great! I'll tell my friends....

[Bandana Girl]

I'll soon be adjusting my sigs on other boards.

[quartex]

As was suggested in another thread about this page, I think you should get rid of the flash animation. It's really slow and jumpy even on a faster broadband connection, and looks bad. I think a slideshow of cool shots would be a better way of showing some glimpses of the beauty of Farscape's visuals. I liked the picture of the farscape module in front of the wormhole that you used in the mockup of the page. But I find the flash animation annoying and distracting.

[Red]

Hmm, I like the flash animation and it loads almost instantly for me and seems to run smoothly. Scorpy808 went to a lot of trouble to make sure that the page itself loaded quickly for people on slower connections, so they don't have to wait for the flash to load if they don't want to. It's easy to move on to the content of the site.

[BaseLine]

I like the Flash animation. Looks neat. The entire site looks great. Except for one tiny thing: the page is aligned to the left and that results in a large black void on the right. I'd rather see the page centered or a border around the page.

[mgraylorn]

Flash isn't attached to my favorite browser, so I tend to ignore stuff that requires Flash. Fortunately you don't have to have Flash to see the rest of the website. That really annoys me when sites won't let me see them without Flash. I go elsewhere.

Just to see what quartex was talking about I opened the site in IE, which does have Flash. I thought it was a bit distracting to the rest of the site, and IMHO it didn't add anything for me. Others may think differently, but that's my opinion.

Other than the Flash business, I thought it was a great site!

[Red]

I don't know all the details -- Scorpy808 will have to fill in the blanks -- but because of the layers needed to create the inside pages, the only way to get it all to line up properly is to make the site line up on the left hand side.

[Jeff O'Connor]

Looks beautiful, everyone! One small thing I noticed, and I'm sure it's been brought up before but, oh well... eh-heh...

On the "Miniseries" link category, the link near the end for scifi.com/farscape is currently "scif.com/farscape" and it doesn't work needless to say. :D

Other than that, everything is brilliantly done. W00T, everyone, W00T.

[pk_killer]

Baseline, red

I didn't design the site of course, Scorpy did an amazing job, but I've seen that some people like the design better if it was centered (I personally agree) and thought there has got to be some sort of way we can get it do that. So this morning I tried tweaking Scorpy's code (forgive me Scorpy!) and I wanted to see if I could get centered with the div tags intact. I've tested it on a few browsers that I have access to at home and I think I found a work around.

I need people to test it out to see if the page will indeed work centered.

http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showpost.php?p=560498&postcount=80

thanks

[Coinean Crichton]

Most excellent site Red! Hats off to those who created it!

[BaseLine]

Works like a charm pk_killer :)

[AyuRocks]

It's very beautiful!

One minor gripe, could it be set so that the table that the website is on is centered? that way it won't look weird in 1024x768 or higher resolutions.

The flash is beautiful and the critics praise is great, some of them I had never seen before.

Thanks to everyone who helped to put this together - it's fantastic!

[KozmikBloo]

Bravo! Great work! Just in time for the October advertising blitz. Thank you!

[scorpy808]

cool ... if someone can check pk's link on mac and let us all know? I went ahead and applied the fix to all the pages (thanks pk! my brain don't work so good at 3am when i worked on this thing!)

[CrystalMoon]

The fix by PK Killer works great on my PC at work, which is set at the greater resolution. And I must say, now that most everyone is gone here at work and I can take a closer look at the site, it really is gorgeous. I love the way the characters change both on top and in the main text area each time you click on a new link.

On minor thing I found. On the links page, I didn't see a link to Farscape.com.

[NYPinTA]

I love the way the characters change both on top and in the main text area each time you click on a new link.


Me too... but I have one thing... and it could just be me... but do you think maybe when the new character that is in front of John and Aeryn at the top of the page, they should be scooted to the right just a tad maybe. It looks kinda funny only seeing the backs of both J and A's heads in the backround.

I mean this part:

[scape_sister]

Already got two replies, two from people who have never seen it and one from a scaper!

From newbies:

1. "Hi (me), I like the site, haven't seen the show as
of yet but will keep it in mind. We here in Arlington
Tx. mainly watch Home and GArden Television. Key word
here is watch, not do! But we do love to watch. I will
check it out... Take care and say hi to family... Love
ya (them)"

2. "Neat! I’ll try to remember to watch this!
thanks for sharing Far-out-girl!"

This from a scaper:

"I'm in love all over again!" (I second that!)

Fantastic Job everyone! :D

[pk_killer]

cool ... if someone can check pk's link on mac and let us all know? I went ahead and applied the fix to all the pages (thanks pk! my brain don't work so good at 3am when i worked on this thing!)

not a problem, glad to be help .. I knew if I thought about it long enough, the solution would present itself :)

hope it works okay on a MAC... hopefully it will

[AyuRocks]

Sweet :D It looks much better centered!

[Red]

It looks like it works on my Mac in OSX using Firefox. I'll try it in IE, too, since that was being evil earlier.

eta -- Looks good.

[Emeraldcity]

The site is really good. I really like the colors, it is really easy to read and easier to navigate. Kudos to everybody!! :D :D

[pk_killer]

hi Red,

what about Netscape and Safari on a MAC? Have you tried those?

I just downloaded Firefox for my PC today, pretty slick little browser...

[Red]

Safari's mozilla based, so it looks good there. But I have a strong loathing of Netscape (slower than molassas) so I don't have it installed on my machine. It also looks good on mozilla's Mac Camino build, btw.

[pk_killer]

cool well it appears most of the browsers are good... the changes look great Scorpy..centering really helps the flow better on bigger screens

[Clarsax]

It looks very cool.

[Eve11]

Oh, I liked astrogirl's blurb! Where did it go? Also, the link to the primer takes me to wfs.com forums...

ETA: The "making of" section is awesome!

[blue]

Its centered on my Mac with IE 5.1 now. Looks great.

One more quibble--when you click on the link to learn more of the story, it takes you to the Firescape section of FMD with lots of threads (with no intruction of what to do next). If you then click on the first thread, you get to a page suggesting that for a synopsis, do another click, which gets you to a primer page of watchfarscape with this as a first line:

"For those joining us midway through Season 4 (contains spoilers for episodes 101 - 411).

Farscape, Sci-Fi Channel's critically acclaimed story of a lost American astronaut on a living spaceship full of escaped alien prisoners, returns on January 10 with new episodes...."


now that is pretty confusing to new people. I emailed the site when it first switched over that maybe that paragraph should be updated for people just learning about Farscape, since we know it is from the distant past, but they won't know. Maybe now would be the time to update that text?

[StarsGoBlue]

hmm. the primer page was supposed to be updated before we linked it. oops. :D

will be fixed before too long. heh.

[Jul]

:O :lol

[uisceboo]

Well, I've already linked to it. :lol "Woot," anyway!

[Red]

No big deal. Like I said, websites are always changing, and this is why we have feedback. SaraD is also writing a season by season summary, but as folks all have real life, these things happen in their own time.

[StarsGoBlue]

:rolleyes: despite flagrant abuses of the words melted wax :eh: ... i'm on it. should be fixed some time tonight. unless i change my mind. :P


ETA: or unless the server decides to be a PITA, again. :rolleyes: we'll take care of it, though. ;)

[Tva]

Hey I love the site, and I've got some realy posative feadback from some of my mates. It's just the thing I need to close in with, on my scaping targets.XD

[Pip_The_Great]

I thought the 'Story To Date' section was really well written. Good job Silentspace. Everything looks great! really streamlined and professional, I'll start passing on the website!

[vikingscaper]

The site looks fantastic!! :woohoo: :aok: I haven't had a chance to explore it yet but I think that I will do that now.

[divinedaydreams]

I did some looking around and love what I saw.

One thing am I the only one that if you click on one of the sections the graphics at teh top have a split. Sorry don't know all the lingo for websites but go here and look at Braca...

http://www.farwhat.com/fanreviews.php

[Jul]

ddd - what browser are you using? I'm using IE and I don't have that split..

[divinedaydreams]

Ok here goes I have XP and I think I run IE. I also have the whole Yahoo stuff at the top. Not sure how to check what version of IE I have. I have noticed one other site that doesn't run right for me. Most of the others I've talked to about the other site, that have troubles with it say they have XP also. So might be my settings and I just don't know how or what to fix.

Any other XP users having the same problem?

[Jul]

well, i'm an xp user too.. that's so strange..

ETA: if you wanna check what version of IE you're running, click on help and then "about internet explorer"

[divinedaydreams]

6.0 something is the version.

Yep the other site the script runs over all the pics. Mildly annoying but since it happens so little I usually don't pay much attention.

[scorpy808]

divinedaydreams ... have you cleared your browser cache recently? we re-uploded the pages today to fix a few things ...

Also, if you see the "split" through any of the top pics, make a note of what critic quote is in the area to the right and let us know. It may be there is still one of those that is too long and therefore causing a small space to happen when it pushes the table holding the whole shabang down ;)

[divinedaydreams]

Ok how does one clear their browser cache?

[faustus]

looks awsome and has been mailed out to all my mates

[Throctukes]

The site looks great - but you could fix the majority of the browser specific problems by making the entire site xhtml 1.0 strict compliant (you can check this at validator.w3.org ). Reason being, if you do this, each flavour of browser shouldn't switch into "tweaks" mode (whereby it does whatever it thinks it aught to make the page look good), but will render the page as closely as it can to the strict standard, so it should have fewer brain-wrongs appearing. It's a good way of giving yourself a chance of working on any old browser.

p.s. Everyone stop using IE. Use Firefox.
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

[TalynLives]

p.s. Everyone stop using IE. Use Firefox.
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

I second that statement :) Especially for browsing forums, just middle-click on each thread you're interested in and have them all opened up in tabs inside your browser window ready to view at your leisure. Instead of in Internet Explorer having to click, come back, click come back or else opening them all in new windows, quickly cluttering the place.

[pk_killer]

while the tabbed feature is sweet and what I've tooled around in seems cool (nice import feature), Firefox is not going to replace IE. It won't support Active X controls so it will never completely get rid of IE. If anything on the site you are viewing contains Active X controls, Firefox completely ignores them...no warning, no alerts, nothing.

Its just a matter of time before the "evil" Microsoft steals that functionality and incorporates it into IE anyway :)

[mycattoldme]

Here's what the site looks like on a Mac with Netscape (6). The central text area is wider than it should be.

[TalynLives]

Its just a matter of time before the "evil" Microsoft steals that functionality and incorporates it into IE anyway

A LONG time, the next signifigant IE upgrade will come with Longhorn (ages away). No more IE updates are being issued for current Windows versions other than security updates.

I use Firefox as my primary browser and rarely had an issue with lack of ActiveX. It's very very seldom that I need Internet Explorer to view a site and they're usually the poorly designed highly interactive type.

[spocks2]

Somebody asked me if there was a linking graphic for the site, but I couldn't find one. Would it be possible to get one?

[scorpy808]

How to clear browser cache: http://www.jvmediadesign.com/info3.html

Also, spocks2, I'll be working on some banner ads and buttons for people who want graphics to link to the site and will post something about it when they're done.

[spocks2]

Awesome, thank you!

[pk_killer]

A LONG time, the next signifigant IE upgrade will come with Longhorn (ages away). No more IE updates are being issued for current Windows versions other than security updates.

I use Firefox as my primary browser and rarely had an issue with lack of ActiveX. It's very very seldom that I need Internet Explorer to view a site and they're usually the poorly designed highly interactive type.

wow... how far is Longhorn off? Maybe IE will become obsolete after all :)

ha ha

[divinedaydreams]

Cleared cache but still have the black line. However the line is not as thick with all the pics. So might be the quotes, correction definitely the quotes. Small ones leave a very small thin line.

[pkgrl]

Here's what the site looks like on a Mac with Netscape (6). The central text area is wider than it should be.

That's how it looks on my PC, too. Exactly the same as a matter of fact. And I have IE... the latest version. Is it supposed to be any different? As long as we can read it, isn't it okay?

[mycattoldme]

That's how it looks on my PC, too. Exactly the same as a matter of fact. And I have IE... the latest version. Is it supposed to be any different? As long as we can read it, isn't it okay?

Heehee...according to my own personal book of "good design" the left and right sides should align, but maybe scorpy's out to break the rules ;)

:D

[scorpy808]

divinedaydreams ... which quote is there when the line is the biggest? Thanks.

Don't look at me mycat ... that was PK's code to get the thing to center ;) PK? Any suggestions as to why that's happening? All tables are set to a specific pixel width.

Also, you guys who are seeing the wider midsection ... is it just one one page, or all of them? I've personally checked the site on:

IE6 (PC)
IE5 (Mac)
Netscape 7 (PC)
Firefox (PC)

and it's a-ok on all of those ...

[divinedaydreams]

The richness of the storytelling radiates...most of all, there's a humanity that's heart-rending."

--Diane Werts, Newsday

Then the New York Times and a few others are smaller and then

"'To Be Continued'...it's not just a phrase, it's a promise." --Matt Roush, TV Guide

Is giving me a skinny line.

[pk_killer]

Don't look at me mycat ... that was PK's code to get the thing to center ;) PK? Any suggestions as to why that's happening? All tables are set to a specific pixel width.

this "solution" was only a suggestion as I couldn't test it on every browser so it appears there are some that don't look correct. I'll take a look at it tonight, but since I can't reproduce the error it will be difficult for me to fix.

----------------------------------------------------

the more I look at this do we really need the fancy divs? What's wrong with just pushing the content down the page like watchfarscape.com site?

I assume the target on the screen resoluton is 1024X768? I see what you are trying to do to keep the bottom image strip banner up on the screen at all times, is that right Scorp?

@ 800X600, I can't get to the bottom content div scroll bar without scrolling the main window scroll bar

@ 1024X768, I can see the all the contnet, but I have to scroll the main window to see all the site at the bottom (bottom navigation and the copyright stuff is not visible). But to me, that isn't a big deal as long as I can see the content.

thanks

[pkgrl]

dd, I get the same black band... only on all the pages. And, yes, my cache has been cleared, Scorpy. :D It doesn't happen on the work computers, which run on a Windows network OS. I have XP (damn upgraded technology!) and I also run Internet Security which is the only thing that's caused me web problems in the past. Don't know what to make of that line....

It's right across Braca's face!!! :eek:

[scorpy808]

The skinny line bit, I'm at a loss. I can't reproduce that either. There's no logical reason why that should be happening ... other than some wonky thing in the IE that comes with XP or something. I dunno?

We can still only do so much on all of this stuff. I still think 100% browser compability is a pipe dream, especially on complex pages :(

[pk_killer]

I have to concur with Scorpy on that... an impossibe task..

[pk_killer]

dd, I get the same black band... only on all the pages. And, yes, my cache has been cleared, Scorpy. :D It doesn't happen on the work computers, which run on a Windows network OS. I have XP (damn upgraded technology!) and I also run Internet Security which is the only thing that's caused me web problems in the past. Don't know what to make of that line....

It's right across Braca's face!!! :eek:

I think I know the problem... (the quote text) what is the following setting pkgrl

Go to View / Text Size .... what is your setting?

I should be set to Medium

I can get the same effect you are if I max the text size to Largest

try that and let me know if that solves the issues

If this is the issue, Scropy you can fine tune the stylesheet to force the fonts as a pixel size no matter the text setting right?

pk

[pk_killer]

scorpy

http://www.beforethedog.com/tutoriali/tut1.htm

using this as a reference.. I've rebuilt my test page... please test

http://www.jillandnick.com/farscape/farwhat/test2.htm

[divinedaydreams]

I think I know the problem... (the quote text) what is the following setting pkgrl

Go to View / Text Size .... what is your setting?

I should be set to Mediumpk

Hey that did it for me. I had it on the largest setting. Thanks

The other site I go to also now shows up right.

[pk_killer]

Hey that did it for me. I had it on the largest setting. Thanks

The other site I go to also now shows up right.

If Scorpy can tighten up the stylesheet.. that shouldn't be a problem in the future for viewes... there are ups and downs to doing that but "locking" guarantees people will see it how it is supposed to look. Downside is for people who can't se the text at that size and like to view sites with larger fonts..

again its a matter of blowing up the site or letting the text get bigger....

pk

[blue]

One more little tweak--there's a typo in the critics quotes section--about halfway down -- the daily news one--- I think "themeare" on the second line needs a space to make it "theme are", and wellas on the third line also needs a space.
I noticed because the quote is expanded from what I had in critics quotes, and it was hard to read -- first my eye said to my brain "them ears?" :)

[Throctukes]

while the tabbed feature is sweet and what I've tooled around in seems cool (nice import feature), Firefox is not going to replace IE. It won't support Active X controls so it will never completely get rid of IE. If anything on the site you are viewing contains Active X controls, Firefox completely ignores them...no warning, no alerts, nothing.

Its just a matter of time before the "evil" Microsoft steals that functionality and incorporates it into IE anyway :)

The best way of making your computer less vulnerable to malicious attack is to stop using Outlook and IE. As for ActiveX it's historically been the source of a huge amount of security problems, and more to the point, does nothing that you can't do more safely with non-proprietary features. Don't fall into their trap! They make ActiveX, tell you that you need it, so you have to use IE. All lies. Microsoft aren't evil. They're just not very good.

[mycattoldme]

Also, you guys who are seeing the wider midsection ... is it just one one page, or all of them? I've personally checked the site on:

IE6 (PC)
IE5 (Mac)
Netscape 7 (PC)
Firefox (PC)

and it's a-ok on all of those ...


I played around a bit with the code and found that by removing all the extra spaces between the individual row and data cell code eliminates the problem in Net 6.


example: in the mid section the code looks like this - (tr) (td) if I eliminate the space between (tr)(td) everything lines up. Also remove spaces between your data cells - just for good measure. :rolleyes:

[pk_killer]

The best way of making your computer less vulnerable to malicious attack is to stop using Outlook and IE. As for ActiveX it's historically been the source of a huge amount of security problems, and more to the point, does nothing that you can't do more safely with non-proprietary features. Don't fall into their trap! They make ActiveX, tell you that you need it, so you have to use IE. All lies. Microsoft aren't evil. They're just not very good.

true.... but anything can be vulnerable to attack by exploiting weak points, Microsoft just has A LOT more of them!. Yes ActiveX(IE) and OutLook are vulnerable to attack, but most of that comes from people who don't know what they are doing. They download ActiveX prompts without really looking at them to see if they are safe and then accidently install viruses by viewing email attachments they receive from their friend who got a virus on their computer and is sending emails to everyone is the address book without them even knowing it.

With a little bit of proactive work and staying current with windows updates, they can prevent attacks on Microsoft products. I've never been attacked with either outlook or ie.

For what they provide and nice integration, to me, outweigh the problems. I'm not ready to give up and use something else just yet.

[pkgrl]

Well, it almost worked for me... now that black line is more of a hit and miss kind of thing. Sometimes it's there, and sometimes it disappears or gets fatter when I refresh.

Ah, I'll live with it. :D The site's not for me anyway... and NO ONE has the problems I have on my computer. ;)

[pk_killer]

pkgrl what happens if you put your text size to smallest under view / text size?

[pkgrl]

Stand by...

testing....



Ahhhh, nothing. But I can't read the reviews from the front page, 'cause they're too small. :freak2: But it's acting pretty normal now with the font size back at Medium, too. ;) Told you, nobody's computer acts as strangely as mine.

[scaper4eva]

sorry to be computer illiterate but where do you go to change the text size. coz i think i'm having the same problems.

[pkgrl]

If you're using IE, go to View then scroll down to Text Size and you should get a list of options. I remember changing mine a while ago because I have a small monitor. Try going to smallest size first, then back up to medium and see if the bar goes away.

[scaper4eva]

thanks it worked, i'm such a idoit it actually took me a few seconds to go "IE wha..?" but dont worry i got it in the end.

[kymom5613]

Beautiful site...Great work everyone!
Ginnie

[Bandana Girl]

OK I have something to ask. When you click on the farscape story it has a link to the Farscape primer at Watchfarscape, but if you click on it, it leads to the newbie message board here and then if you click on Red's sticky post, you will see another link to the primer. Is there anyway to link directly to the primer without going through the messageboard? I think it will confuse a lot people.

[Bandana Girl]

Oh um could you ad to the primer the last half of season 4?

[pkgrl]

OK I have something to ask. When you click on the farscape story it has a link to the Farscape primer at Watchfarscape, but if you click on it, it leads to the newbie message board here and then if you click on Red's sticky post, you will see another link to the primer. Is there anyway to link directly to the primer without going through the messageboard? I think it will confuse a lot people.

Good point, BG. I agree. The link from Farwhat.com should go straight to the primer here: http://www.watchfarscape.com/primer.php and NOT through the message board. I know plenty of people who would close the browser immediately because they don't like navigating message boards AT ALL, so if they were looking for a primer, they'd miss out.

[Red]

Yeah, we know the link doesn't go to the right place. If you scan back a few pages it's mentioned. We weren't able to update the link though because the FTP was being wonky. We'll get on it when we get a chance.

[blue]

posting this again because it might have gotten lost in the past and its an easy and quick thing to fix--it doesn't read well without fixing it.

Another little tweak--there are two typos in the critics quotes section--

about halfway down --in the daily news quote:

First "themeare" on the second line needs a space to make it "theme are"

Second "wellas" on the third line also needs a space.

I noticed because the quote is expanded from what I had in critics quotes, and it was hard to read -- first my eye said to my brain "them ears?" then it said "them ear e"? "the me are?"

[StarsGoBlue]

the primer is being edited--i'll finish it tonight, i was really tired and went to bed early last night--and up this weekend, if the stooopid server cooperates. :bballbat:

[pkgrl]

Yeah, I noticed those typos, too, blue. ;)

Coolio, Stars. I saw that it needed updating. Glad someone's on top of that. :lech:

[scifinutter]

The site is looking fan-bloody-tastic. Great effort on every front, congrats! I shall be plastering the addy in as many places as possible.

[scorpy808]

Just letting ya'll know that I re-uploaded the pages, fixed the spelling errors on the press section and fixed the link to the primer ;)

[blue]

YAY. The site looks really wonderful.

Is that expanded NY Daily News quote anywhere on the web? I'd like to put the expanded version in the critics quotes--Just want to make doubly sure (am I compulsive or what?) the "a delight" is repeated twice like that.

edit
compulsive? maybe. good speller? not so much.

[spocks2]

Scorpy, any luck with a linking graphic? Thanks!

[StarsGoBlue]

actually, we've had some really neat images offered to us, so we're working on a few different things... we've been working poor scorpy's fingers to the bone, it's only fair to give her a bit of a break! :hug:

[StarsGoBlue]

oh, and the primer's been edited and updated, too. ;) although... it does not appear to be up yet. :P

[Red]

It is so up.

eta ... for some reason there are two different versions of the primer showing up. :rolleyes:
Attempting to fix, or I'll nuke it, which is also a variety of "fixing".

[StarsGoBlue]

:P told you. i think it's leprechauns. see what happens when you tempt leprechauns?

[Red]

It reset to a default. Which is annoying. Because it was up, and I tested, and it worked, so there. I deleted the file and made a new one and now it should work for longer than 5 minutes.

[StarsGoBlue]

it SHOULD... but now all i get is a grey screen. is the URL still watchfarscape.com/primer.php?

[Red]

It comes up for me - http://www.watchfarscape.com/primer.php

[StarsGoBlue]

i get it when i click from farwhat.com, but then the URL is http://www.watchfarscape.com/primer.php%20

[Red]

It's the same thing. I get it from both urls. The "%20" is just an extra space at the end of the url in the tag.

[StarsGoBlue]

ah, and i get it when i type the URL in by hand now, too. maybe i was messing with it when you were working on it. ;)

thanks, o fearless leader. :aok:

[Red]

I got rid of that "%20"

[StarsGoBlue]

hey red, looks like i had a typo in the URL for snurcher's... should be just http://www.snurcher.com/

sorry! :rolleyes:

[cleverfox]

Very beautiful site. Well done.

[Red]

fixed the snurcher's link

[scorpy808]

I added the "extras" page (link is at the bottom of all the pages) and did up some quick banners. If anyone else wants to do some banners, feel free.

[pk_killer]

scorpy

did you look at that new div code I posted?

pk_killer

[destructogal17]

Hey,
i love the new site, its really pretty :D

with all these draft cards going around, it gave me the idea that maybe on the site, it has a sign up page. i know you can subscribe to the mailing list but i thought it would be fun if neebies could sign up to join the ranks as a peacekeeper and then get a certificate or something and links to peacekeeper merchindise or something.
it would also help us see how many people have visited the site.
whatcha think?

luv n hugs
mara
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