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Twich
11-13-2004, 01:24 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138489,00.html
Cops: Couple Sought to 'Sacrifice' Kids on Altar
Saturday, November 13, 2004
ROCHESTER, N.H. — A woman and her boyfriend are accused of plotting to sacrifice the woman's three children on a church altar (search).
Nicole Mancini (search), 29, and John Thurber (search), 35, were arrested at St. Mary's Church on Wednesday after workers said they heard the woman say she wanted to sacrifice the boys.
"We could tell this woman was not right," said church secretary Donna Landolfi. "She said, 'Let's go make the sacrifice."'
Mancini and Thurber were in jail Saturday on more than $25,000 bail. They were arraigned Friday on three counts each of misdemeanor child endangerment. Thurber was also charged with marijuana possession.
The children, ages 9, 7 and 2, were not harmed and were placed in state custody. Police said Thurber is the father of the youngest boy.
Police said Mancini told them that Jesus sacrificed himself for her, so she was going to sacrifice the boys to free her soul.
"Eighteen years I've been doing this and I've never come across anything like it," police Lt. Paul Callaghan said.
Mancini's attorney, Kimberly Shoen, said her client meant the children no harm.
"They were never tied to the altar, there was no blood, there were no constraints for sacrificial use," she said.
Linda Slamon, Thurber's attorney, said Mancini had been acting "irrationally" recently and Thurber accompanied her to the church to get her help.
"If anything, he was there to protect the children and protect Miss Mancini," Slamon said.
A judge ordered Mancini, of Farmington, to undergo a mental evaluation.
AgentSun
11-13-2004, 01:34 PM
wow. this woman is a nutjob. i dont know if the boyfriend was too, but it certainly seems he was an accomplice. poor kids...but they're better off without a woman like that.
DRD2001
11-13-2004, 01:51 PM
Police said Mancini told them that Jesus sacrificed himself for her, so she was going to sacrifice the boys to free her soul. So now, wouldn't it just be a case of her boys then being sacrificed for her soul. Then it would make 4 people whom she would be indebted to for her soul, and I don't know how she would ever be able to even that out. A more appropriate response would be to sacrifice her self, instead of her boys, to free her soul, not that I'm trying to advocate human sacrifices or that sort of thing.
AgentSun
11-13-2004, 01:56 PM
i think we've proven that logic is not one of this woman's strong points. nor is bible knowledge, because Jesus was the last sacrifice. He was called the sacrificial lamb because he was the last atonement for the sins of mankind. there was not an animal sacrifice after Jesus.
SpyderDan
11-13-2004, 03:16 PM
Wow, there's someone who should be locked up. Crazy people... :rolleyes:
Owlman
11-13-2004, 03:53 PM
Now they can link weed to child sacrifices...
BillFrugge
11-13-2004, 04:41 PM
When I read the article, I immediately thought of this post in another thread: http://www.watchfarscape.com/forums/showpost.php?p=606720&postcount=463
Clarsax
11-13-2004, 04:52 PM
Wow, there's a woman with some problems
trubador
11-13-2004, 05:02 PM
Not only is this woman a total nut case :loco: she, unfortunately, has the same last name is me. :eh: (No relation, thank God.) :g2f:
Shipscat
11-13-2004, 06:50 PM
Evolution in action.
AgentSun
11-13-2004, 10:41 PM
hahahaha that post was hilarious! thanks billfrugge.
this woman is nutso and we all agree she should be put in jail. now the question is, are inmates also qualifiers for being sacrificed?
RydraWong
11-14-2004, 03:44 AM
Actually, with a case like that, it's very likely that she does have a serious mental illness, e.g. schizophrenia or some other psychosis. She probably had no idea what she's doing, or sincerely believed that it was the only right thing to do. IMHO, in that case she needs to be in hospital, not in jail.
Defect9
11-14-2004, 07:21 AM
Actually, with a case like that, it's very likely that she does have a serious mental illness, e.g. schizophrenia or some other psychosis. She probably had no idea what she's doing, or sincerely believed that it was the only right thing to do. IMHO, in that case she needs to be in hospital, not in jail.
Dang. Schizophrenics have such strange logic. wait... I think I'm schizophrenic some days... at least that's what those voices keep telling me...
Seriously though, i agree that no mentally healthy person could have considered doing what she tried to do. no matter what she had, that deserves the slammer.
RydraWong
11-14-2004, 07:51 AM
no matter what she had, that deserves the slammer.
If she was psychotic, then no. She wouldn't have been in touch with reality, so she wouldn't have understood the nature what she was doing or been able to control her actions. In all probability, she truly and sincerely believed that she was doing the right thing for her children.
If that's so, she certainly needs to be locked up in a secure hospital where she can get treatment and be prevented from hurting anyone.
But I don't see the point in jailing someone for the results of a severe neurochemical illness which they can't control.
BlackThorn
11-14-2004, 08:02 AM
I don't see much difference between a secure hospital and prison. In one, you're locked up, have to worry about what the staff will do to you, and they make you take drugs. In the other, you're locked up, have to worry about what the inmates will do to you, and wish you had drugs. Either way, you're locked up, worrying about what people will do to you, and drugs are on your mind a lot.
Kathleen
11-14-2004, 02:07 PM
:roflmao: BT
This woman should undergo the psychological evaluation. I don't know if jailing her would be the right thing to do. How would that help her if she needs medical/psychological attention? If, however, they deem her to be "competent", then she should be fried. You don't do that to babies. Period.
AgentSun
11-14-2004, 02:51 PM
she should receive medical and psychological treatment, but you do not just rehabilitate a person like that...i don't even know if it's that possible to rehabilitate someone who was trying to sacrifice children.
RydraWong
11-14-2004, 03:15 PM
Well, if she does have something like schizophrenia, and she's responsive to medication, then she likely could be rehabilitated. This is a treatable condition - it's not the same deal as psychopathy.
If she is psychotic, the odds are that in her mind, she truly believed that she was doing the right thing for her kids, perhaps that she was saving them from terrible evil (there have been similar cases before). That makes her a very very sick person indeed - but not an evil one.
Fyodor
11-15-2004, 01:47 AM
I know that this news should be disturbing, but I find it hillarious as hell.
sacrifice them to Jesus.... :D :D :D :D :D
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