BEN JOINING STARGATE AS A REGULAR!!!!!!

[Twich]

http://www.tvguide.com/news/entertainment/

In The News: Stargate, Star Jones and More!
Wednesday, December 15, 2004
Ben Browder

OPEN STARGATE: We've got good news for fans of Sci Fi's Stargate SG-1 and great news for fans of Farscape: TV Guide Online has learned exclusively that when SG-1 begins its ninth season, Farscape hunk Ben Browder will join the long-running series as a regular. In the meantime, the show is continuing its efforts to hammer out a deal to keep erstwhile MacGyver Richard Dean Anderson (who has been with SG-1 since its 1997 debut) on board, at least in a limited capacity. Whatever happens when all the moondust settles, SG-1 returns to finish out its eighth season on Jan. 21, when it will take over the 8 pm/ET time slot to accommodate the addition of Battlestar Galactica to the net's lineup at 10. And although no reason for the cast shake-up was given, I'm pretty sure Elton John will explain it all to us shortly. How can we be so sure? Oh, keep reading; you'll see

[DRD2001]

Oh crap! I quit watching SG1 a long time ago. As much as I'd like to see Browder in other roles, I'm just not impressed with the stories.

[BaseLine]

Now we'll just have to wait for Moya to join the show, and the transition is complete. :devil: But this is great news. Now I only have to read up what SG-1 is exactly about.

[JadedLegend3]

I still have only have to say: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[cybergal]

Well, Claudia is going to be in an upcoming ep on SG-1, so who knows, maybe there will be some more Ben and Claudia together in our future. With Ben on board, we know the show will improve. I wonder what role he will play? Will he be a part of the SG-1 team? Maybe take over the slot left empty by the slowly fading out of the series Richard Dean Anderson?

All I can say is there is at least one smart person on the SG-1 production team for selecting Ben! :bounce:


Signed,
a CEO looking on the bright side of life!

[nhfearme]

Hey! What's not to like about Ben on TV??? We even got used to seeing him in Polyester :rolleyes: pants ;)

Ben and Claudia?? Hell Yeah! cybergal :cool: I could live with that. :)

Thanks for the great news Twich. :D

[Twich]

I believe we should write to Skiffy and thank them....is that appropriate?? What do you guys think?

And maybe some folks at Stargate??? Or is that...uncool in fandoms??

[soccerscaper]

This is exciting news!!! I had quit watching because it became so predictable. I'm hoping that Ben will get some input on new plots and maybe do some writing for the show! He could really shake things up and make it interesting! :D

[Crackers DO Matter]

I tried to start watching it when it 1st started ... couldn't get into it.

But with BB on board ... I be there !!!!!

( really just waiting for season 5 ... another mini ... movie ... music video ... )

[SabaceanBabe]

:thud:

[janey_13]

I've never watched it before, is it easy to jump into the storyline or do I have to NetFlix all the other seasons?

[Col. Kathryn O'Neill]

fairly easy... i didnt start watchin it at the beginin of the series and i caught on :)

:thud: maybe, just maybe he'll play the fourth SG1 team member, oh my MS and BB on the screen together... hehehehehehehe....

[cybergal]

It's very easy to jump into janey_13. No problem there whatsoever...

[pendragon]

Don't you people see its just a ploy to get Farscape viewers back to SciFi?! They know we were pissed off when they cancelled Farscape (some even boycotted SciFi all together), they know we will follow Ben and Claud anywhere they go (they just have to read two threads here: pre-order Ben's movie and pay for Claudia's) ... they also know that SG1 is nowhere as good as Farscape even at its best and now that it is fading ... I'm happy for Ben, I don't begrudge him the money and exposure, but I don't think we should thank SciFi. Would you thank the man for removing the bullet after he shot you in the heart?

[Bandana Girl]

Um I was kinda thinkung the same thing. I'm happy though that Ben has a steady job and he be in Canada. If anyone else wants to watch though, feel free.

[Nato]

Man, this makes my brain hurt.

On the one hand, Ben Browder is, well, awesome.

On the other, SG-1 is a turgid, boring mess of bad writing and incomprehensible plotlines.

... which I will now apparently have to start watching. And if they bring Claudia Black's character in as a regular...?

Dang. There are some seriously evil geniuses at work at the SciFi Channel.

-- Nato

[KevinTheWrench]

that's great news for Ben....he's joining like the best show on television, plus he'll work a bit with the one, the only, the most awesome RDA

congrats to Ben

Out...

[vhsiv]

As much as I'm happy for Ben, it only seems like an act of desperation, to pump some new energy into a fading franchise.

Two years ago, it was SG-1 vs. Farscape; now it's "Let's hire BB to pump some new blood into our fading franchise and get some of those Farscape viewers back. And its STILL the longest running Sci-Fi show on tv!!! Whoopie for us!"

[Antrobus]

How ironic.

Glad for Ben that he got work. This will certainly give him a bigger fan base!
(He'll have to sign even more autographs!)

Its interesting (and ironic) that a show that Skiffy bailed on (Farscape) had such good actors that they had to import them into one of their other shows.

At least the talent of Farscape is getting recognized even though the show seems to be elusive to most.

[ItsThatGuy]

SG-1 is now the best show on television? .......So THATS why i stopped watching most TV!

[amrcanpoet]

While I'm happy for Ben, I'm not sure even this bit of stunt-casting can convince me to watch this white-bread show.

I'm sorry, but Farscape just spoiled my perception of Sci-fi, and the only "sci-fi" show to capture my attention since Farscape was Firefly, and that show was a fluke of genius. No way I'll be watching Stargate...Sorry, Ben!

[Mike@Pilots Chamber]

Interesting.

[chasa]

Congrats to Ben on the new gig! :woohoo: Steady acting work is hard to come by.

I've never watched Stargate, but I'm sure I'll tune in at least occasionally to soak up some BB goodness.

[fandom]

I am certainly glad for him, but as for SG-1, I would be more excited if he were to join as a writer, as an actor there is only so much he can do with the material he is given.

[Digger]

I'm happy for Ben that he's getting some steady work, and hope that Claudia reprises her role again next year too. I haven't watched Stargate in a long time, but I suppose I will give it another chance next year. It's good to see that skiffy is keeping good relations with the FS people (Ben, Claud, and Rockne all working for them again). However, if the show sucks I won't watch it just for him. And I don't think this will preclude Ben doing more Farscape. A movie may take a year or more to get off the ground, and a second Mini might take that long too. Also, there was some talk a while ago about a FS spinoff in which Ben would be prominently involved. Ben's season on Stargate may be a prelude to that. SG1 will probably end after next year, leaving a huge hole in the schedule. If a new FS spin-off with Ben gets developed skiffy could then promote it to the Stargate crowd too. I hope it also means more exposure for him so that he gets even more work.

[MrX]

I went to tvguide.com, saw Ben's pic on the front page and my eyes lit up. I can't wait for Season 9 to be here now.

Though it would be nice to get to the second half of S8 first...

[jls2565]

I’m absolutely THRILLED that Ben will be on SG-1. :D :D
I started watching SG when it was on Showtime on a regular basis, then off and on again while it was on Sci-Fi. One main reason for the last 2 years I have not watched too much of it is because I missed the Farscape cast members, especially Ben :( It was hard to watch a sci fi show without them. So I will now become an avid watcher of SG-1 as long as Ben is there to see. :D OMG I CAN’T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!! I just called to tell my mom about the news!! :) Can ya tell I'm excited????? :)

This show has been on a long time. I hope that it has a few more seasons left in it as long as Ben will be there.

It’s going to be interesting to see the kind of character he will be playing. And what Claudia’s guest appearance character will be like.

I think at first it will be weird for me seeing them in a sci fi and not being JC or ASC.

My understanding is Claudia will be a guest at the end of season 8 and Ben starts as a regular with season 9?
Is this right? And when does season 9 start?
If this info was posted I must have missed it in all the excitment. :)

[Col.Batguano]

I'm sorry but I can't help but think, Ben, Claudia, why?
after Farscape both of them where looking at film careers, to me this is a step backwards,
I hope Ben isn't in this for long.
if they had to do Science Fiction TV again I would hope it would be something like the new Battle Star Galactica, that looks like a serious peace of drama, (which makes me think skiffy is going to can that one as well)
this irks and worries me, and it does smell like an evil scheme by skiffy.
SG-1 is nothing compared to anything let alone Farscape,
when ever I watch an episode I honestly feel like I haven't missed anything, even when I come in at the middle of an episode, and I don’t find myself itching to watch more, just the opposite actually.
Ben if you really do come to these boards and read our threads, please back out of this deal with the Devil, it really stinks of a skiffy ploy to shaft Farscape and her fans.
even if Ben is in it I still wont watch .

[AyuRocks]

Flame me if you want to, but THIS SUCKS.

[Jaina]

I'm very happy for Ben. Work is work, and I'm sure he's glad to be employed. I'll probably watch, because hey, Ben. I watched an episode of CSI:Miami for him, and for me, that's worse than watching SG-1. *g*

And really, this makes all the Michael Shanks jokes at Burbank even funnier...

Caitlin

[Digger]

Flame me if you want toNot while you're carrying that big damn gun Ayu :D
but THIS SUCKS.Why do you think so. Ben's gotta work. It's only one season. It could be good exposure for him, thus good for his career.

[AyuRocks]

I think Stargate is painfully unimaginative.

[Digger]

Agreed. But work is work. It's not like he'll be doing SG1 forever. And no actor ever goes an entire career without doing something, um, not as good as his fans hope for.

[cybergal]

Contrary to some of the negativity that I'm seeing, I think this is a brilliant move on Ben's part for several different reasons:

He got a job! He's working!
He'll be on a popular, well advertised series.
He gets more TV face time and therefore more recognition.
The extra recognition will get people to check out Farscape.
They get hooked on Farscape.
They buy the Farscape DVDs.
DVDs sales skyrocket.
Henson gets more money from the sales.
Producers are willing to spend money on a money making enterprise.
We get a Farscape movie because of this.
The movie is wildly successful because it gets Farscape and SG-1 fans into the theatres.
So we get more Farscape movies.


Hey, it works for me.....


I'm not going to place limitations on an actor for a choice that they made so they may to continue doing what they do best. Act. And making a hefty paycheck isn't a bad side benefit of doing the gig either. Also, this will give him some of the connections in Hollywood that he needs to have to be able to further his career and eventually be able to give his Aussie friends a leg up.

Why would anyone want to deny him that, especially if you say that you care about him as you do? I don't get it.

Who knows, maybe Ben being on SG-1 will bring some life back into the series before it goes away. Help it go out better and not boring. Rockne is writing for them again and Claudia will be a character on the show at least once if not more. So, I'll wait until I see the episodes before I pass judgment on it.

I've said before that I would support Ben and his film career, whatever he did. I meant what I said. I supported him for A Killer Within and the Behind the Scenes Charlie's Angels TVmovie. I love Farscape, but I refuse to place limitations on it's actors because of that love.

For example, what if we all said, "No Anthony and Wayne! You can't play music! You can only be D'Argo and Scorpius! or I'll never watch you again! <insert temper tantrum here>" Why would I want to deny them the pleasure of making music? So why would I want to deny Ben the pleasure of acting in another show?

If anything, when we do get more Farscape, and we will, this experience will just enhance Ben's performance because we know that he loves Farscape too.

[AyuRocks]

Why would anyone want to deny him that, especially if you say that you care about him as you do? I don't get it.

If didn't care about him then I wouldn't care what he did. Ever think that people might disagree because they think he could be doing things that are about 1000 times better than Stargate?

It may be a means to any end, but that doesn't mean everyone has to like it. I resent the implication that if you aren't behind it that you don't care aout the actor.

In the end, what can I do about it anyway? Nothing. So what does it really matter?

I hope wonderful things come out of it, but am I going to watch? No, because I think Stargate is painfully unimaginative. If by some mircale that changes, then sure, why not?

[BritAngie]

Stargate is okay. It's not Farscape but I don't think anything else will be. ;)

Just sooooo pleased it's a good gig for Ben and a high profile mainstream one too. It's only going to do him and Farscape good as will get new people realising what a fantastic actor he is and pondering what else he has done and start looking at Farscape.. :) What's not to like? :)

[NeilGartner]

Good News: We'll get to see Ben full time and maybe Claudia again. :D

Bad News: I am not crazy about the current state of Stargate where the writing and direction is getting weaker by the season. I just saw 'Grace' up here in Canada for the first time and it was CRAP! :yuck:

Worse Fears: No possible Farscape Movie until the end of the Ninth Season... at least. :irked:

Hopes: If Skiffy is hiring the Farsape crew, maybe they'll get Gigi, Anthony and Wayne to do an episode or two as well. :idea:

This situation may not be ideal for everyone but lets be happy for Ben and take any goods when it shows itself.

Neil

[cybergal]

Ever think that people might disagree because they think he could be doing things that are about 1000 times better than Stargate?


Maybe there just wasn't anything available that was a 1000 times better available for him to take at the time. We all know that Hollywood is a "A List" town when it comes to getting work there. All of the Farscape cast that have tried getting work in Hollywood have made comments on that specific problem. I think that this is his way to move up to the beginning part of the alphabet out there.


It may be a means to any end, but that doesn't mean everyone has to like it. I resent the implication that if you aren't behind it that you don't care aout the actor.

I didn't mean to imply that "you specifically" didn't care. I've just been reading so much negativity about this choice of Ben's, as an individual and an actor, that I just don't understand how people can abhor a show so much, that they would deny themselves watching it. Especially when someone who is supposedly their favorite actor is going to be on it, without even giving themselves the opportunity to give it a chance before passing judgment.


Maybe I'm just too forgiving of a person when it comes to TV series. Writers and actors change on these shows, which will inherently have an effect on what we get to see. I'm always willing to see what they changed to improve upon, or screw it up, before making up my mind.

Don't take what I said personal, as it's just me thinking out loud trying to understand people's thought processes on this. Guess I should have waited until people have had time to accept this new development before speaking out loud. Didn't mean to offend anyone....

[ItsThatGuy]

What all the people who think its a bad thing arent realizing is, despite the vast difference in quality of the two shows, Stargate is a much, much more well marketed and advertised show. I imagine he would like some mainstream exposure, and sadly a lot of people will watch whatever is shoved down there throat, regardless of quality.

[SabaceanBabe]

Contrary to some of the negativity that I'm seeing, I think this is a brilliant move on Ben's part for several different reasons:

He got a job! He's working!
He'll be on a popular, well advertised series.
He gets more TV face time and therefore more recognition.
The extra recognition will get people to check out Farscape.
They get hooked on Farscape.
They buy the Farscape DVDs.
DVDs sales skyrocket.
Henson gets more money from the sales.
Producers are willing to spend money on a money making enterprise.
We get a Farscape movie because of this.
The movie is wildly successful because it gets Farscape and SG-1 fans into the theatres.
So we get more Farscape movies.


Hey, it works for me.....


I'm not going to place limitations on an actor for a choice that they made so they may to continue doing what they do best. Act. And making a hefty paycheck isn't a bad side benefit of doing the gig either. Also, this will give him some of the connections in Hollywood that he needs to have to be able to further his career and eventually be able to give his Aussie friends a leg up.

{snip}

Who knows, maybe Ben being on SG-1 will bring some life back into the series before it goes away. Help it go out better and not boring. Rockne is writing for them again and Claudia will be a character on the show at least once if not more. So, I'll wait until I see the episodes before I pass judgment on it.

{snip}

If anything, when we do get more Farscape, and we will, this experience will just enhance Ben's performance because we know that he loves Farscape too.

Yeah! What she said!

You said that so eloquently, cybergal, that I really can't add anything to your words except my support. :D

If didn't care about him then I wouldn't care what he did. Ever think that people might disagree because they think he could be doing things that are about 1000 times better than Stargate?

No one doubts that you care about Ben. (Okay, maybe I shouldn't speak for everyone, but...) Personally, I very much understand that you feel Ben is lowering his standards. I don't see it that way, though. Stargate SG-1 is not the enemy, nor is it a bad show (and yes, I agree with you that it is sometimes painfully unimaginative). It is a high-profile sci fi show and will give Ben some really good exposure.

Maybe there are things out there that are 1000 times better than Stargate, but if they're not available, then what good does that do Ben or his family?

I visited Gateworld for the first time earlier today. I don't know what the thread talking about this looks like now, but when I looked at it, at 2 pages long, it was primarily Gaters wher are very excited about the addition of Ben to SG-1. They thought that he would bring new life and a creative spark to the show - in a nutshell and paraphrasing, they thought that Ben could make it be more.

Farscape broke a lot of traditional sci fi barriers (and it will again, dammit!) and maybe, just maybe TPTB at Stargate are hoping that Ben can bring some of that to SG-1. It's not like it's any big secret that Ben was a big part of the creative force behind Farscape. They have to be aware of that.

[vinity]

Hey this is a good thing. If they write him a bad part, He'll just rewrite it and if it brings SG fans into the Farscape world it will be awesome for the movie!

I've never been a SG fan but I'll certainly follow Ben anywhere, even if it's skiffy

[waltersgirl]

outfuckingstanding!

that sneaky bastard.

[malachilenomade]

Where there's a will, there's a way ;)

I have now officially posted in all 3 threads about this same subject :D

[tgoebel]

hmmm...not sure about this one. On the one hand it's great to see Browder get some "full time" work but on the other hand i have to agree that tre writing on Stargate has gotten a bit weak of late and with Anderson's case of happy feet (he seems to get them in the 8th year of series that he does) i've got to wonder if it just isn't a case of "you scratch our back" and we'll see what we "might" be able to do for you in the future. I would absolutly hate to see Ben Browder's career go the way of Adrain Paul.

Oh well we'll see i guess

[justanotherFSlvr]

Why would anyone want to deny him that, especially if you say that you care about him as you do? I don't get it.


Unfortunately, the very same people who resent Skiffy so much that they were dead set against PKW airing on SciFi, despite it being the most obvious and clearly best choice for Farscape, Henson and the cast.

[Spedoinkel]

:eh: SG steals our time slot, no they abduct our actors? It is a bit of a slap o' the face.

I am happy that the Farscape crew is getting work. I do enjoy SG, because it is slightly better than ST, which depends a bit too much on Deus Ex Machina. I can't watch Enterprise. But I think it wacky that Ben is going there. Not because SG is evil, which it isn't, not because SG is horrible, which it isn't, but because of the history between Farscape and SG's battle for attention.

[Pengu]

Well, it's really mixed emotions, mostly positive though. Ben is getting back on the screen and SG is ok, even if the show is half decent, not more.
Hopefully he'll make it better.
What I don't like is that fact that SG and FS was in competition for a long time with SG winning even though FS was a zillions times better, had better actors, better stories etc. And I also can not help but suspect that in some way Scifi is trying to get back all those viewers that lost all faith in them when they brutally just dumped FS.

And even if I had slim hope before this more or less permantly, at least for some years put all FS on ice.

I can just hope Ben makes SG worth watching...

[Ploppy the Kalish]

I'm sorry but I just can't help but feel betrayed. It feels like he's going to the enemy, you know. I mean I wouldn't have a problem with a guess appearance for a few episodes but JOINING THE CAST!?!?!?!

*Sigh*

The best thing that could happen is if his stint on Stargate intrigues people to check out Farscape.

The worst thing: he becomes so immensly popular on Stargate and that makes that show immensly popular and the general public will never know about Farscape and there will be no more Farscape because of his immense popularity on Stargate.

I don't know how to feel. I just don't think this can mean any good for Farscape. I mean can you imagine Stargate starring Ben Browder; next Farscape (insert title of next mini) starring Ben Browder. Who knows I just hope this doesn't hurt Farscape but congratulations Ben!

Hey does this mean we might see Fran on Stargate too?

[Davesnothome]

I can see how it came down!:

Stargate SG-1 prodicer: "Ben, come to the darkside! Join SG-1. We already have gained a hold on Claudia. All will fall into our hands! (heavy breathing))

Ben:"Okay,okay all ready! You've got me! Just stop with the Darth Vader imitation! It's creeping me out! Hey, Amanda Tapping looks pretty hot in leather! And I can finally kick Michael Shanks butt, if I feel like it!!!"

Dave

[Spedoinkel]

That a strong argument for Ben joining SG.

[Aeryn_chan]

I found interesting this news :D I think it's great for Ben, and I don't think it's bad for FarScape. I think that if Ben gets more popular, a lot of people who didn't know about him would be interested to know him better and to know in which series have worked (After being a Farscape Fan, I watched the episodes of Party Of Five in which appeared Ben, just after learn he worked there), so a lot of people will know about FarScape, and they'll find it's a great series.

And well, it's interesting to have him on screen again, it's curious, 'cause during this week in another forum we were discussing about Claudia on SG, and we thougth it would be great to have Michael Shanks and Ben in the same series, and well, today we've read this, and still we can't believe it, It's like if they read our minds :eek:

[Frell-n-Grok]

Ben has work!!! Yippee! :clap: :highfive: :thumbs:

That's a nice b-day present.

I shall do the happy dance of joy! :bgb: :crazydance: :crazydance: :banana:

:boogie: :boogie: :boogie: :groove: :groove: :groove:

:joy:

:djdisco:

[The Keeper]

fairly easy... i didnt start watchin it at the beginin of the series and i caught on :)

:thud: maybe, just maybe he'll play the fourth SG1 team member, oh my MS and BB on the screen together... hehehehehehehe....

Hehe...I'll get confused as to which one is which! lol. Just kidding, but they do have a lot of the same features...

*is excited*

[Lost Like Me]

Way to go Benny! I'm so glad he's got a steady gig. There are a whole lot of talented UNEMPLOYED actors out there. He's a level headed guy, and I totally trust his judgement on what's best for his career and family.

I've only watched SG-1 a few times, so I can't really judge it. If it's bad now, he can only make it better, cause that's what he does. Maybe as part of the deal he'll get to write a few. He'll get to flex those acting and writing chops, which will make him better at both. It's hard to improve in your craft if you're sitting on your couch waiting for that 100 times better gig. More exposure can only be a good thing. If the show sucks, that will make him stand out more as the only good thing on it.

I'm thrilled for you Ben. Congrats to you and the fam. Gotta feed those growing kids! :)

[CaptainZoom]

Not very good news, as far as a new Farscape series on The Scifi Channel goes. They just divided up the Farscape fanbase. Some are very happy that Ben has a good job, thoughtful fans know a divide and conquer ploy when they see it.

Claudia Black has a guess starring role but not a reoccurring role on Farscape, MGM’s Stargate-SG1 producers will not want two Farscape stars on Stargate-SG1.

I posted some addresses to snail mail for Farscape, most Stargate fans told me Farscape was dead, so there was nothing they could do about it. Same story when I posted under my usual handle 'dvo47p' asking for email support for a version of Battlestar Galactica based on TOS.

The Scifi Channel has just pulled of a Farscape TV series ending coup. Concentrate on a movie, TV is not a very good option for Farscape as long as Browder is on Stargate-SG1.

[kellialwyd]

I understand how people who feel bitter about SG1 still being around while Scape was axed soooo before it's time. To those people let me add my voice to others who are saying this is a good thing for Ben, a good thing for Stargate, and a good thing for Farscape. It is bound to pump new life into SG1. Ben gets a paycheck. New people may check out Farscape because of Ben. There are some Danielites who are concerned that Ben's entry will be a threat to Michael. To that I say pshaw. Ben is no thief. He will add to the show not take away. Here, here. More BEN !!!!!

[eleuthera]

Here's hopeing Ben brings some excitement to SG1. I have tried many times to watch it and just couldn't. Managed about 15 minutes at most, got bored and switched channels. With Ben in it I'll definetly give it another shot. I thought I read that Rockne will also be associated with it.

All I really wanted was a 5th (6, 7 .....) season of Farscape. But if SG1 can be re-energized (maybe just energized - don't think it had much to start with)
I'll take it. Oh, I do so miss those weekly doses of Farscape.

[RebeqNova]

Good news for me I guess. Shanks and Browder being two of my favourite men in Sci-Fi. And both in the same show.

I guess I like SG-1. I think I prefer Atlantis at the moment - what with it being quite new n'all.

Still - maybe this is just Sci-Fi showing faith in the Farscape actors? I dunno.

This makes me almost as cheerful as I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue's new season starting on the radio this week.

[joesway]

Wow, this makes me feel so conflicted. On one hand i have enjoyed watching the inferior stargates and i really liked BB on farscape. The combination of 2 positives should be a good thing, BUT.... On the other hand this is such obvious Pandering by Sci Fi. They are exploiting Scrappers weakness for Ben to raise the ratings of the inferior show which helped run farscape off the air. I hate feeling manipulated, so now i don't want to watch a show which i would have watched had they not added one of my favorite actors.

aside from that i see 2 other downsides to ben going to SG1
1) Although anywork for Ben is good work, a lead role on sg1 will probably lock ben into this typecast for good. If only there were a TJ hooker spinoff for him :P
2) More success for the Stargates lowers the likelyhood of Sci Fi seriously entertaining the idea of creating more farscape or a spin off. Then again if BB drove the ratings way up Executives might see that as a reason to make more Farscape although i dout Sci Fi would break up a show that was getting higher ratings.

I'll probably compromise and just Download the new episodes as not to reward Skiffies evil tatics.

[Kent]

Flame me if you want to, but THIS SUCKS.

I AGREE with you , this is the worst thing to happen to Farscape. With all the talk of SG-1 around here I wil have to seriously restrict my trips to FMD. I am VERY happy Ben got a job but on SG-1?!?!?!? That show is the biggest pile of dren ever. Oh well. Just my $.02.

[el-halo]

:< i'm disappointed. stargate is a terrible show and i hope it doesnt have any negative effect on any possible farscape future.

i guess it is silly to keep dreaming of more farscape seasons, but i have to hang on to something :D

[J.Crichton]

I look at it this Way..
Ben is working, Ben is getting a paycheck, Ben is happy.
So lets be happy for Ben, and like someone said in another thread "if Ben doesn't like the story he can rewrite it " lol. So what if he is on SG1, Ben can make it better. It's no differant than if he went to...oh say BSG:TS I mean hell The man has SERIOUS Skills, Actor, writer etc. Given the leway he can turn "scare tactics" in to an award winner

my 2 cents

[Nirtia]

Hi All,

It has been a while since I have posted here. Sorry about that but I got busy with classes. However, I heard this news today and it demanded my attention and a response.

I am in conflict as well. I happen to be a fan of both shows. I feel they both have wonderful storylines and superb actors. I give you Talyn John's death scene with Aeryn As well as, Stargate's season 7 eppy lifeboat and Michael Shanks performance as evidence to that fact. I admire good talent and I have seen nothing more than that.

I am glad for Ben and that he is getting work. I don't know what the outcome will be yet or how it will affect the future of either show.

I will say this: It will cross over a lot of fans of both shows. That in itself is worth gold.

Scifi fans are loyal and true: Lets support our faves no matter what venue they take.

Wishing Ben Browder a very smooth transition into the Stargate World and great success here on out.

[FieryHands]

Wishing Ben Browder a very smooth transition into the Stargate World and great success here on out.

Amen! I'll be eagerly awaiting season 9.

[Isabel]

But, there will be no leather pants. :(

I'll still watch, though.

[The Keeper]

But, there will be no leather pants. :(



Well you never never know...

Hope they give us SOME sort of leather.

[tribsaint]

I'm happy that Ben is finding work and all, but I don't think I can support him on SG-1. I get the sinking feeling that this is just a ploy to get ALL of us over to the "dark side" (as mentioned earlier...not that SG-1 is evil, but an overall horrid show). Skiffy lost a lot of Scapers when they got rid of Farscape, so it just seems a lot like "Hey, let's get the sexy man in leather on our other show to get them to like us again." The channel wants us, but not the show we support and fought for. I can't be bought out to watching a show that I personally abhor just for extra Ben screen-time (as much as I love him!).

A few guest episodes, I could stomach without thinking that something's up. Now, I'm certain there is. I just sincerely hope that Ben can bring his talent to that show and pick it up from the steaming pile of dren it's been lying in.

[AyuRocks]

^^ Agreed.

I just remembered.. I couldn't watch even if I wanted to - I don't get the SciFi channel :D

[Col.Batguano]

If didn't care about him then I wouldn't care what he did. Ever think that people might disagree because they think he could be doing things that are about 1000 times better than Stargate?

It may be a means to any end, but that doesn't mean everyone has to like it. I resent the implication that if you aren't behind it that you don't care aout the actor.

In the end, what can I do about it anyway? Nothing. So what does it really matter?

I hope wonderful things come out of it, but am I going to watch? No, because I think Stargate is painfully unimaginative. If by some mircale that changes, then sure, why not?

Ayu, you're not alone,

Ben is shooting himself in the foot - for the love of God its a show where the leading man for about 8 years was "Richard Dean Anderson" the Grim Reaper of acting Careers.
in order for Ben to fit in he is going to have to act below his standard, and that is what Skiffy will promote, not his work in Farscape.
I just prey Ben has a sharp Lawyer and a good escape clause in his contract, because I seriously doubt skiffy or SG-1 would let him go even for a little while to do a Farscape movie.

[buggabboo]

or it could posssibly be that ben was the best man for whatever role he auditioned for and they decided, "what the hell, we'll employ this guy. sound good? good."

[tribsaint]

I guess we can agree that anything is possible, right?

[sbz]

Hey all. You know, I just felt inclined to add my two cents after reading all the posts. And I have to say that I can't really understand a lot of your attitudes. Perhaps it's because I was a SG-1 fan before I ever fell in love with FArscape and as such I didn't have to go through the pain of losing the show (I came to Farscape, oh... 2 years ago?) and don't have the association between Stargate's success and Farscape ending that you all seem to.

As such, I find a lot of your attitudes petulant, and not at all in support of a previous comment about Sci-Fi fans being loyal and "sticking together". You all are passing rather extreme judgements on a show that most of you said yourselves you haven't watched (at all, or an entire episode). That's totally the wrong way to judge a show, and I'll prove it to you. When Farscape first came out, or at least when it first reached SPACE here in Canada, I saw about 15 minutes, probably less, of the middle of Bone to Be Wild. My immediate impression was "What the Hell is this stuff? It's terrible! The acting is like.... cardboard. It's not worth my time!" And I changed the channel or left the room. Two summers ago, after the cancellation and during the summer rerun drought I was bored and turned on Farscape cause it was the only thing on. It was Exodus from Genesis, and I had missed the opening bit. However, I watched the entire thing, then the next couple weeks watched more episodes and then I went and bought season 1 on DVD. I now have the entire series on DVD and have seen every episode at least twice (I scaped my sister) and seen my faves dozens of times. So, snap judgements on TV shows are usually really inaccurate.

Farscape and Stargate are two vastly different shows, I don't think anything will ever be as *different* and even risque as Farscape was/is. As such, there isn't anything wrong with Stargate as far as I'm concerned. It's a fairly normal sf show, with I think a good main plotline (though, I haven't seen much of the seventh and eigth season cause after Sg-1 changed to MGM the airing got all messed up in Canada) and good actors - if you doubt that, like someone said earlier, watch Lifeboat and Shanks's acting skills just clobber you. I hardly think it's fair to compare the two shows, they are not AT ALL alike.

Having said all this, we should be overjoyed that Ben has work and not lambast his decision to be EMPLOYED! Our opinions are insignificant. It's his life and his career. Finally, I'd just like to ask... does Skiffy have any stake in Sg-1? Does it contribute $ to the production? Do they have power in deciding the coming and goings of actors? If not, I don't see how you all can say it's a ploy by SKiffy to attract Scapers if they have no say in who comes on the show - they're simply the channel that airs it.

Now, I think that's everything. I'll finish by saying these were my observations and experiences and I don't mean to offend anyone. I'd watch BEN on SKiffy if I got the channel.

SBZ

[harveywhispers]

If didn't care about him then I wouldn't care what he did. Ever think that people might disagree because they think he could be doing things that are about 1000 times better than Stargate?

It may be a means to any end, but that doesn't mean everyone has to like it. I resent the implication that if you aren't behind it that you don't care aout the actor.

In the end, what can I do about it anyway? Nothing. So what does it really matter?

I hope wonderful things come out of it, but am I going to watch? No, because I think Stargate is painfully unimaginative. If by some mircale that changes, then sure, why not?

Hey ayu...

I just want to throw my support in with you. Had I the opportunity earlier in the day, I would have kept my thoughts confined to what is apparantly the somewhat skeptical thread. Instead, I fought what I thought was a lone battle in a thread of the pro-SG1 type in strategizing.

===

I apologize to anyone I have pissed off today, but we are all entitled to our own opinions. Mine is simply that I have trouble seeing how this is such a great thing for a campaign that is losing clarity in what it is doing. Feel free to flame me for that, but we are all floundering about just what our new direction/directive is. I just don't see how pretending to get stoked over a show I have never liked is going to provide me any clarity on where the TC Scapers should go.

Sadly, unless there is a sharp turnaround, a lot of people are going to view the shift to SG1 as the death knell for the campaign. To them, one of the "big names" going to SG1, indicates that he doesn't see a Farscape future any time within the forseeable future (people like solid realities & don't want to deal with the abstract). Is it right that it could/would be viewed as such? To be honest, I don't have a clue. However, there are people out there who will say "heck...Ben Browder just signed on for a season of SG1...'s all over". It sucks that people will/do feel that way, but we have to be prepared to combat it with more than..."well...Brian said see you in the theatre". Heck, he could have meant he would/could see you in the theatre down the street (not that I think Brian is stalking us). We need to be able to give some kind of solid answer as to what we are doing, what we know and what effect we can still have.

There are people who wonder how/why I know what the average guy is thinking...I am the average Scaper...I talk to the average Scaper...I have a group full of average Scapers...All it takes is some listening.

[AyuRocks]

Sadly, unless there is a sharp turnaround, a lot of people are going to view the shift to SG1 as the death knell for the campaign. To them, one of the "big names" going to SG1, indicates that he doesn't see a Farscape future any time within the forseeable future (people like solid realities & don't want to deal with the abstract). Is it right that it could/would be viewed as such? To be honest, I don't have a clue. However, there are people out there who will say "heck...Ben Browder just signed on for a season of SG1...'s all over". It sucks that people will/do feel that way, but we have to be prepared to combat it with more than..."well...Brian said see you in the theatre". Heck, he could have meant he would/could see you in the theatre down the street (not that I think Brian is stalking us). We need to be able to give some kind of solid answer as to what we are doing, what we know and what effect we can still have.

Dang. Never even thought about that.

::is even more in the dumps about this::

[harveywhispers]

Dang. Never even thought about that.

::is even more in the dumps about this::

Dude..
Not trying to make you down. This is just one aspect that I, as leader of the TC Scapers, am seeing come to the surface already. It just means that we have to be prepared to combat the reality of the situation.

[AyuRocks]

Oh no, I agree with you, just something I hadn't really considered. I know you weren't trying to get me down, it's all good :D

[Fyodor]

I actually quite like SG1, and knowing that Ben is gonna be on it makes me want to watch it more.

[vikingscaper]

I was going to stay quiet on this topic but I felt like I had to say something.

I am happy that Ben has a regular role once again which means more money to help support his family with. On the other hand, I do not like Stargate at all. I tried to watch it back when it was on Showtime and I did not like it then. I tried to watch it on syndication and I did not like it then. I tried to watch it on Skiffy pre-cancellation and I did not like it then. I will try to watch the first episode that Ben is in but if I do not like it, I will not watch just because he is in it.

This is all that I am going to say about this issue. If you would like to know more of my feelings, feel free to send me a PM.

[StarsGoBlue]

:dunno: People are going to interpret this as they choose. If they convince themselves it's the end of the campaign, that's what they'll believe... but that doesn't mean it's the end of Farscape.

People have come and gone since the cancellation. That doesn't mean it's a good thing; it's simply a fact. People have participated in the campaign as they felt inspired to do; they'll continue or not as they choose.

I have to respectfully disagree with the suggestion that it means there's no direction or focus to the campaign. I'm an average Scaper too, and I know other average Scapers. None of them have implied that they think this is it for Farscape because Ben's taken a role on SG. There's balance in reaction to the news; it's not all feast or famine.

We're not going to all agree on whether or not this is good news. There will be dissent, because not everyone likes SG and feelings run high about Skiffy's involvement. But that doesn't mean, because someone disagrees, that they are necessarily targeting any individual poster or posters. They're just stating their own personal opinon, like everyone else does.

Heck, over on the SG board it sounds like the same situation. Some people are happy, others are mad, a lot are uncertain and maybe worried. We aren't in this alone, by any stretch of the imagination. :)

vs...it sounds like you and I both tried the same SG strategy... it just didn't appeal to me. But I'll give it another shot when Claud and Ben are on. ;)

[Under A Dying Sun]

can i get a HELL NO?!!

[AyuRocks]

I don't think it's the end of the campaign, but it may complicate things a bit... :shrug:

can i get a HELL NO?!!

Perfect!

Anywho... I don't think I can stand to think about this anymore, let alone talk about it. Too depressing. I think I'm out.

[Jul]

A Hell No to what?? I think this situation has great potential :D

[Pip_The_Great]

hummm, as many before me have said, mixed feelings on this whole thing. I used to watch SG, and actually still enjoy the first couple of seasons. Tried to watch the season8 opener, and found it really dull. If there is talk of RDA leaving, and Ben joining, I suppose one could think that the show might change tactics (hopefully for the better)
I to feel betrayed by the whole thing, mostly because Skiffy gave Farscape the boot and then shifted those resources to Stargate. It sucks that Ben and Claudia are working for the show that a lot of Scapers view as being substandard, but I suppose you take what you can get.
I'll tune in for them, but as I've posted in another thread, if it sucks, then I'll turn to something else.
Mostly, I hope that this doesn't tear the scaper community appart. It seems there is a lot of tension here, and I would hate to see this wonderful place fall apart because of SG1 & Skiffy.
I suppose we could look on the bright side. At least he didn't join the newest season of VH1's 'Surreal Life'

[Jul]

the funniest thing about these 4 threads is that there's a distinctly different flavor on each thread.. this one being the most down in the dumps about this news :lol

[BritAngie]

I have to say I'm stunned by the negativity. It's fine to have an opinion love or hate, like or dislike Stargate but to suggest that it will mean no more Farscape is silly I beleive! Stargate like every other show has a long hiatus between seasons which means that the cast can do anything else they like during that time. I mean look at Claudia-she put off her honeymoon to do the mini. Where there's a will there is a way! Also when CB was doing Farscape she did Pitch Black and that vampire movie who's name escapes me. I trust Ben's judgement and those of his agent into making sure he has a good deal on this. Also I can't see the Stargate tptb being so selfish as not to allow Ben a few eps off to do something else if need be. Other actors have done it in series.

I can only see more Ben on tv-so more curious fans getting hooked by our Mr B's acting talents and then looking at other things he's done.

I mean guys-the show was cancelled and we got a HUGE mini series. We laugh at the word "impossible". :D

[Jul]

I mean guys-the show was cancelled and we got a HUGE mini series. We laugh at the word "impossible". :D

AMEN BA!! :hug:

[Col.Batguano]

I apologize to anyone I have pissed off today, but we are all entitled to our own opinions. Mine is simply that I have trouble seeing how this is such a great thing for a campaign that is losing clarity in what it is doing. Feel free to flame me for that, but we are all floundering about just what our new direction/directive is. I just don't see how pretending to get stoked over a show I have never liked is going to provide me any clarity on where the TC Scapers should go.

Sadly, unless there is a sharp turnaround, a lot of people are going to view the shift to SG1 as the death knell for the campaign. To them, one of the "big names" going to SG1, indicates that he doesn't see a Farscape future any time within the forseeable future (people like solid realities & don't want to deal with the abstract). Is it right that it could/would be viewed as such? To be honest, I don't have a clue. However, there are people out there who will say "heck...Ben Browder just signed on for a season of SG1...'s all over". It sucks that people will/do feel that way, but we have to be prepared to combat it with more than..."well...Brian said see you in the theatre". Heck, he could have meant he would/could see you in the theatre down the street (not that I think Brian is stalking us). We need to be able to give some kind of solid answer as to what we are doing, what we know and what effect we can still have.

There are people who wonder how/why I know what the average guy is thinking...I am the average Scaper...I talk to the average Scaper...I have a group full of average Scapers...All it takes is some listening.



harveywhispers - (for the record) I don't believe Ben would ever give up on Farscape.
My concern is for the Career of an actor I am a very big fan of, and how money and the politics of show business can really screw someone out of a career.
also I am Hoping if Ben should get into trouble, (which I am cautiously optimistic he can avoid) his fans will be there for him, I have no doubt there will be a theatrical release of Farscape and Ben will be in it, I'm just hoping that it will not happen at the point of a loaded Lawyer.
also Ben is a great artist who I would love to see in other endeavors and SG-1 is just so Bleh, I don't see it as something that will put his career in a direction where I will get to see him Shine again.
I have faith in Ben, he has been a positive cheer leader for Farscape and even doing a season of SG-1 I am certain he will be still,
I just don't trust the industry that canceled a popular TV show and lied out it's but to justify it, and I am worried that he might have made a bad judgment call, just because he wishes to please his science fiction fans.
But I do share your concern, it doesn’t take much to sway some ones opinion, especially when it is about something cherished, the reaction has a tendency to assume the worse.
I have just been patiently waiting for the word on the Farscape Movie, till then I was just in idle mode.
we should start doing some cheer leading and at the very least start needling Ben, Claud, Anthony, Rocko, and DK about what to expect from the movie.

I just don’t want my Favorite actors to make a career changing mistake because they thought they where pleasing there fans.
if they do good, work we will be there.

to the Fans of SG-1 I hope to God you are right, but I seriously Doubt it for one big reason.

Richard Dean Anderson
- AAAAAAAAUUUUUUUGH!!!!! :eek4:

[divinedaydreams]

The following is my opinion and not directed at any particular individual or group. It is based on my observation of the general feeling of this thread. AKA don't take it as a direct attack against you if you read it.


Ok I think people are getting a bit confused here. Farscape is bigger then any one actor or actress. The campaign is bigger then that. Ben has a life, with Farscape only being a part of that. To think that he should make is career decisions on if it will be good for Farscape and the campaign is wrong. Others have said it and I'll say it again he has a family to support and work is work. Every actor has done work that we would rather not have seen them do. Tom Hanks in Castaway comes to mind.

The campaign will survive!
Ben is good in everything he does!
We will get more Farscape!
Ben will be involved in more Farscape!

Time is the only telling factor that will give us answers. Untill tomorrow becomes today please keep an open mind.

[waltersgirl]

wow. you guys are outta control.

[malachilenomade]

I just don't get it.... I do not understand.... Here is a group of people so closely following what the cast does and one of the cast gets a position on what is now one of the most popular sci-fi shows on the air today and people are pissed!! :rolleyes:

What is the damned deal?! You want them to work, but ONLY on what you want them to work on?! It doesn't work like that.

If you dislike Sci-Fi Channel for cancelling Farscape, bear in mind, that was a business decision and like it or not, Sci-Fi is a business and a business needs to make money to stay in business. Farscape was an expensive production. I'm not pleased that it was cancelled, but I understand why it was done and I hope that we see more of it in the future (be it mini-series or movie) and I don't believe we've seen the last of it. If I were you, I'd be a little more pissed at Sci-Fi for the C-level movies they produce, which they crank out one a month.

You don't like SG-1 because of the writing. Well, I can't say anything about that because that's a matter of opinion and frankly, I've never seen a SG-1 episode from start to finish, though I do catch 15 to 30 minutes of a lot of the episodes here and there.

But people are mad that Ben is going to SG-1 because Farscape and SG-1 were "in competition for ratings?!" No they weren't. Being in competition for viewers would mean they were on the at the same time, which they weren't.

Ben is an actor. Pure and simple. SG-1 is a show and as a show it requires what? Actors.

I've seen in the 4 threads about this people using phrases like "going to the enemy" and "I feel betrayed." About what?! Just because you don't like the show, Ben is supposed to do solely what you want him to do? SG-1 isn't "the enemy," it's just a show and while the writing may not be as good as Farscape or others, that doesn't mean that there is no room for improvement... in fact, since everyone says that the writing is bad, I'd say there is AMPLE room for improvement and here is a chance for that.

But let's just all be pissed because Ben is an actor who's not working solely on Farscape... Good Lord... :rolleyes: I didn't see people jumping up and down with rage when it was announced that Claudia was going to be on the show with the possibility of being a reoccuring character.

If you hate the decision, then don't watch the show. Simple as that. But it was a wise move on everyone's part:
Ben is back on TV in an ongoing series
Sci-Fi knows that bringing Ben onto such a series will get more viewers from Farscape because people will watch just because he's on there
It gets Ben name back out into the open and makes him more visable to the industry, which could spell more outside work for him.
With Ben's resume, there's a serious chance that SG-1 will improve given his input and experience

But no... be pissed... "going to the enemy".... "I feel betrayed"... Lord... :rolleyes:

[blue]

"We need to be able to give some kind of solid answer as to what we are doing, what we know and what effect we can still have. " - HW

We could not do any of those things for most of the campaign, starting at the point of the cancellation. People fell into despair in waves several times during that year, and there was very little hope--we seemed to be on a Quixotic mission--there were only Tiriel's bouncies saying "We Will Get Our Show Back" in her signature, and once, a lovely post about positive visualization and how it can work, that I reposted maybe half a dozen times in the darkest moments, mostly to inspire myself to not give up hope. We had nothing solid. We had actors saying it was dead. We had no reason to believe we would succeed--most of the industry thought not. Why do we now NEED to have solid answers? We had none before and yet we caused money to come to make the mini. That is how it has to work again. This is going to work in our favor, if it brings more publicity to Farscape. Ben getting more eyes on him WILL increase interest in more Farscape. The more successful an actor, the more funders see money possibilities coming back to them if they fund projects the actor may be in. Ben wants more Farscape. All the actors do. Better for more Farscape if they become more famous in the world, then if they stay unemployed waiting...

We never had solid answers as to what we were doing, what we knew or what effect we might have--we just had a terrible determination to not give up no matter what--
I don't just want a Farscape movie--I want more Farscape series, dammit--visualize that--visualization works!

[Bandana Girl]

Sci-Fi knows that bringing Ben onto such a series will get more viewers from Farscape because people will watch just because he's on there


I think that's what people feel betrayed about. Although Farscape and Stargate weren't in competion there was a perception that it was FS vs. Stargate. Even as a foreigner whose seen a couple of ads, it kind of seemed Skiffy favoured one over the other. :rolleyes: . To me it seems as if Skiffy is now using Farascape which they cancelled, uh to force something down people's throats. I can't believe that skiffy wouldn't think they were trying to split peoples loyalties, or 'play' people. To be honest in that aspect I feel used. Also to the average person who just watches TV and dosen't read interviews or involve themself in fandom, it may look like Ben gave up on Farscape.

I think it's pretty clear to us how Ben feels about Farscape :D. I don't think anyone should question that. I didn't waver on that. Also, Ben has kids and frankly, food, clothing and a happy safe secure life for those kids is far more important then Farscape or Stargate (and fans of both, sorry to break it to ya). Also another bit of honesty is there are people who watch Stargate who've never heard of Farscape. Heard of something called exposure? This is an extremely positive thing. Even if you don't watch Stargate (like me) and someone starts talking about it, and they mention the new guy. Perfect segue to,' Well he actually did star in his own show call Far...'. Ben is actually making it very easy for us to scape people. :disco: (I love ya Ben :D )

Also, this is an incredible oppourtunity for Ben to make more connections with people in the entertainment industry. (More connections always a good thing). Not to mention this would help his career. So, for those who don't think this is a good thing and you feel betrayed, give it some time and think it over (I did this at work). Do not give up

Although I can't trust Skiffy, I know I can trust Ben :aok: You should be able to trust Ben too. :D

[MediaSavant]

wow. you guys are outta control.

Indeed.

Like BritAngie, I was stunned by the negative reactions yesterday and to wake up today to.

As I said, "upthread", the odds of a movie have not decreased by one digit because of this news and there are a lot of good reasons expressed by many that it could actually increase them.

Did they cancel the release of the PK Wars DVD for January?

Did the plans to syndicate Farscape next September get canceled?

I don't understand why having Farscape's lead actor get more visibility changes any plans you might have had to support those two Farscape events.

I...just...don't ...get it.

[malachilenomade]

I think it's pretty clear to us how Ben feels about Farscape :D. I don't think anyone should question that. I didn't waver on that. Also, Ben has kids and frankly, food, clothing and a happy safe secure life for those kids is far more important then Farscape or Stargate (and fans of both, sorry to break it to ya). Also another bit of honesty is there are people who watch Stargate who've never heard of Farscape. Heard of something called exposure? This is an extremely positive thing. Even if you don't watch Stargate (like me) and someone starts talking about it, and they mention the new guy. Perfect segue to,' Well he actually did star in his own show call Far...'. Ben is actually making it very easy for us to scape people. :disco: (I love ya Ben :D )

Also, this is an incredible oppourtunity for Ben to make more connections with people in the entertainment industry. (More connections always a good thing). Not to mention this would help his career. So, for those who don't think this is a good thing and you feel betrayed, give it some time and think it over (I did this at work). Do not give up

Although I can't trust Skiffy, I know I can trust Ben :aok: You should be able to trust Ben too. :D

Like BritAngie, I was stunned by the negative reactions yesterday and to wake up today to.

As I said, "upthread", the odds of a movie have not decreased by one digit because of this news and there are a lot of good reasons expressed by many that it could actually increase them.

Did they cancel the release of the PK Wars DVD for January?

Did the plans to syndicate Farscape next September get canceled?

I don't understand why having Farscape's lead actor get more visibility changes any plans you might have had to support those two Farscape events.

I...just...don't ...get it.

Exactly! :yes: Both exceptionally good points and that's exactly what I'm talking about. This actually helps us out, if you stop and think about it. It can be used to our advantage :yes:

[Nessus]

I was pretty flabbergasted when I read the news a few minutes ago. I didn't bother to read this whole thread, but I can fathom a guess at what some of the reactions were. My only beef is that I'm gonna have to watch this crap religiously now, gonna have to fill up my netflix que with all the previous DVDs to get caught up on the story. But of course I'm absolutely jazzed that Ben is getting more work on a high-profile(genre-wise at least) tv show. Knowing sciffy though, theyll probably cancel SG1 before Ben actually gets on the show.

[Twich]

I think it's an exceptionally good thing. (Warning...never watched Gate...never been a Gater. Only watched the movie and enjoyed it. Hubby's an on and off again watcher...so keep that in mind as I explain myself.)

I've heard people comment on how Skiffy are trying to inject new life into a dying show. Isn't that extremely complimentary to Ben? That they believe he could do that? I think it's cool that they think he might be able to 'help' a dying show.

I also have heard people say Skiffy's trying to woo us back. Isn't that also extremely complimentary? If that's the case, it would mean Skiffy WANTS us back. (Which we all knew...like DUH. We're your core fanbase...goobers...) That, to me, means that we have made some sort of an impact.

All in all, if they feel BB might add ANYTHING to the show...including viewers, I think it's a good thing. And I'm with the folks who believe that more exposure for Ben just can't be a bad thing. This is a show that not many people would have to say "Nope. Never heard of it." I hate to say it, but I *still* get "Far...what? Where is it? Show about Fire Fighters?" Stargate has name recognition AND a nice fanbase. If Ben can get *any* of those folks to start following him too, then he will be even more 'employable' than he already is now.

Also, this doesn't preclude Ben doing more Farscape. There are breaks when you're filming a television show. If there weren't, *no one* on television would be in any movies. You think that if a chance to don the black leather pants rolled around Ben would honestly say "No. Sorry. Can't." OR...that *our* PTB would NOT work around HIS schedule? Come on!!!

And where the heck is all this negativity coming from? You are all making horrible judgments on something that isn't YOURS to judge. The man that we all love and respect made a choice. He's made good choices....and we've supported him in those choices. YOU have NO idea what might be "behind the scenes" of this choice. YOU are not privy to those details. And to publicly come on a board that has ALWAYS pushed the positive aspect of things and diss all over him (for the choice) and the show too.

(Warning...Twichie rant coming) :irate:

You're all sitting here petty and pissy and COMPLAINING that our lead actor just got a JOB! A REGULAR JOB! A job on a FRELLING WELL KNOWN SHOW! No matter what you think of the show...(No..it's NOT Farscape. It never WAS Farscape. And it never WILL be Farscape. Even if Claude gets added too! It's a different show...with a different premise AND a different attitude about things than Farscape was.) you should be sitting here frelling CONGRATULATING Ben on getting a job. A job that will, btw, put him 'out there'. No more "Who's Ben Browder? What's he done? Far...what?" We can tell people he's now on Stargate. It gets him MUCH more recognition. Stargate is STILL in syndication. I catch it weekends on my local Fox channel and my local UPN channel. That puts him out there even more!! Imagine a network that plays Stargate and Farscape together...TWO HOURS of Ben in front of someone's face. It's just MORE people to notice him.

You're sitting here griping...complaining...and it does no good. I see nothing that we've worked so hard to accomplish. We've worked hard to be professional. Supportive of 'our' stars and their 'new' jobs. We've worked hard to be an audience that Skiffy WANTS BACK. And now you're bitching that they've hired our favorite actor *just* to get us back.

Decide what you want folks. You want Skiffy to say "We were stupid. We shouldn't have alienated them. We want them back?" They DID. They frelling put the miniseries back on the air. AND they've now got Ben on their network again. How much bigger can you get than that?? In the beginning (just for those who weren't here) Skiffy said we would go away. I believe the quote was two weeks. They'll all be gone in two weeks. Now, two years later they've had to put a NEW Farscape on (which THEY said would never happen) AND they've hired Ben Browder back...possibly to entice us BACK to the network. I thought we were going away in two weeks?

I'm embarrassed by all of this. Honestly. How many Gaters do you think came (or are coming) to check out what we thought? No. You don't have to like the show...but you can be respectful and gracious while expressing that opinion. I have seen some of that...but not nearly enough.

We've strived since day one to be positive about things. We refused to promote a boycott. (Negative.) We've ALWAYS encouraged people to be on the positive side...send thank you notes. Send letters that are NICE and respectful.

Get over it folks. It's not your decision. He's not YOUR actor. And if you really care about him, support the choice he's made. Watch the show or not. That's your choice. Do you have to LIKE the show? No. Not at all. Do we have to PRETEND to like the show? No. But we can express our opinions without being nasty, degrading...and destroying the good will we've worked two years to grow and maintain. Go somewhere else and be pissy. This is where we maintain some civility.

Those are just my opinions...but again...not a Gater. Never watched. Will now.

ETA: My opinions are mine. They do not reflect the opinions of the staff, management, or website at Watchfarscape.com.

[Devnull]

This isn't april fools day is it? =O

Good thing is that stargates story is so simple compared to Farscape, you will get it all in 5 episodes :) I guess I'll have to watch it more than once a year now. Ben will not make it difficult to watch im sure.

[eleuthera]

Ben in SG1 = End of Farscape? NO, I don't think so.
Ben in SG1 = More exposure for Farscape = more fans = more possibilities
Ben in SG1 = Saddness, loss of 5th season dream in the immediate future


I'm not a fan of SG-1. Never could get into it. Seemed dull, routine, boring, expectable. But with a new member, one who is a good, smart actor and can really contribute on the story line side the SG-1 world is looking brighter. I'll give it another shot.

As for the fan movment losing its direction - I hope not. Next focus - Farscape The Movie. What can I do to help?

[J.Crichton]

I got a feeling Momma's blue eye'd boy Ben, even tho he'll have to take a supporting roil on SG-1, will take over and become the lead in about half a season. With the fan base he carried/s on Farscape, it should infinatly increace with his roll on SG-1. I mean dren, this could bring a huge veiwer following to Farscape from viewers who never heard of Ben and want to see his other work....then BOOM a quadrillion more 'scapers !! and the rebirth of Farscape on what ever station or media !! (how's that for Optimisim!)

[eleuthera]

Amen!

[Dominar of Action]

I'm embarrassed by all of this. Honestly. How many Gaters do you think came (or are coming) to check out what we thought? No. You don't have to like the show...but you can be respectful and gracious while expressing that opinion. I have seen some of that...but not nearly enough. Amen. Fine for everyone to have opinions, both good and bad (heck, I'm not a fan of SG-1 myself), but this is an opportunity to show others what Scapers are made of. Besides, this is Ben's career, not ours. He's an intelligent guy who understands how things work in the business. He also is the only one who knows what *his* career goals are. If he felt taking this role was good for him, who are we to question it??

It doesn't affect Farscape one bit, except to perhaps gain additional exposure for it among a new audience. The possibility of a 5th season passed away a long time ago. The future for Farscape is movies (TV or theatrical) or perhaps a spin-off series. Having Ben on SG-1 does not affect any of those in the least.

As Twich said, we should be proud of Ben that the producers of SG-1 felt he could bring some new energy and spark to an aging show. We should be proud that most people (outside of this thread) are ecstatic with the news.

And I would like to be proud of the fact that Scapers can voice their thoughts in a manner that does not trash another show or those who love that show as much as we love ours.

:aok:

[Teraad]

Just a quick question for those who feel that working on SG-1 will spell the end of any future Farscape project. What if the job that Browder accepted was on another show like Lost or Battlestar Galactica, or even a new, unknown show? Would that doom any future Farscape projects because Browder "gave up on Farscape"? If that attitude were carried further, it would seem that Browder getting any job would spell disaster for you. So maybe for those who think this, it would be better for Browder to remain unemployed until a future Farscape project comes into being.

[el-halo]

While those who are so quick to get on the soapbox and chide us who are disappointed with the turn of events, remember that just as Ben is an Actor, we are Fans of Farscape. It's nothing personal. No one would begrudge someone from being gainfully employed.

But that still doesn't mean we'll watch Stargate, and that still doesn't mean we wish he were employed elsewhere. It's just not something we have a whole lot of control over ;)

[Jonah_H3X]

YAY!!!!!!!

woot...wow, this is such good news, its exciting!

Ben is a great actor, and stargate is Skiffy's most heavily advertisted show (Even though i think they'll swamp us with Battlestar ads). Excellent exposure.
I think he can become quite the movie star, he's got the look an the fans. With us behind him, i don't think there's anything he can't do ;)

I think it would be cool if Claudia's character met Ben's at some point :)...or better yet, bring on board the Farscape writers ;)...oo ooo...bring on simcoe,
lots of people haven't seen much of him without makeup ;)...


OOO!!

New spin off idea : SG3: Battle for Earth. The evil egyption pod aliens wage war on earth, and the SG3 team (all other teams are dead), hop from gate to gate, trying to regroup, and retake the planet.
Team Leader : Ben
Smart Chic : Claudia
Tough Ex-Egyption Baddie : Simcoe
Comic Relief : an Alien crafted from the Henson Workshop ...he heh he.


sigh...how soon till the farscape movie hits theatres now? I'd say we have a good chance of this happening if fandom keeps it up :)... just like what happened with Star Trek.

--Jonah H3X

[JadedLegend3]

Reposting this from another thread on this same subject:

First and foremost Congratulations Ben!!! This is wonderful news for you and your career! Rock on, dude!

Secondly, good God people! If you only want the actors to do Farscape, then you don't really want them to act. You want them to be typecast. We all would love if there was nothing but new Farscape on TV 24/7, but is that really what you want for the actors? To not get any recognition beyond Farscape?

And yes, I agree that SG-1 has gone downhill lately and that once a rabid-gater, I have stopped watching. But did anyone ever consider that maybe Ben would bring some much needed improvement to the show??? We keep saying what a fabulous actor he is (and he IS!!! ), so why couldn't he change SG-1, or any current running show, for the better?

We need to just collectively say, "This is great news!" and be thrilled about it. IMO.

[rylett]

ben on stargate SG-1! excellent news! great show. i am a fan and i do watch every week. looking forward to claudia's episode as well.

[Pheonixphire]

This is awesome. I can't wait. Stargate SG-1 has become my favorite on air show since the airing of the Peacekeeper Wars. I can't wait to see Claudia's Episode as well. Just to see my favorite actors and actresses again is wonderful. I was sick one day and caught an episode of Beastmaster on Scifi that had both Claudia and Anthony playing in it. That made my day!

Browder will be a great character to have added and I look forward to the twist that he will put on the show and on his character.

[tedbragg1]

Hee...that 'Michael Shanks' funny business at the con was just a prelude. Amazing how subtle they are, eh? We NEVER saw THIS coming. :banana:

[Adam L Garcia]

if ratings skyrocket because of browder, you can bet your eema Farscape the movie is around the corner!

[Enforcer]

I will give the show a chance with Ben in it now. I never liked it before.

[writersbloc]

Just a few thoughts:

We don't really know what's going on here. There may be an infinite number of motivations playing out with everyone involved. Ben has a highly visible new job on a top-rated genre show. GOOD FOR HIM. Really. I loved STARGATE back in the day, before I was rerouted to the FARSCAPE universe. Yes, SG has grown a little tired over the years, but those things happen. Ebb and flow. The basis is, they have a solid, name-recognized show with solid actors and fans, and a spin-off to boot. Looks like SFC is receptive to franchies series. Good.

Come to think of it, Snarky RDA and Snarky Crichtion aren't too far removed, character-wise. Maybe Ben's new character will be Jack's brother, or sumthin'. :dunno: Point is, none of us will know until we see the show. I will watch, if only out of a highly developed curiosity factor. Ben learned a thing or two in the last four years. I'm betting he goes in there and blows everyone's doors off.

As far a FS's future...Ben has said numerous times he is back on board for any more FarScape. Good for us. Apparently, a movie is next up. Those things take time, and in the mean time, Ben needs to not only feed his family but also feed himself creatively. I would imagine that a regular role on STARGATE, playing a different character in the same genre, could do nothing but bring richer texture to any future John Crichton adventures Ben is asked to play. One of the problems with marketing FS was that simply no one had ever heard of it. We all admit that. And Ben has mentioned in interviews how he was afraid he was hurt by being basically 'removed' from the business those four years in Oz. So, who would have seen the quality of his work for those four year? Other genre shows. And now he has a job offer. He has honed his craft over those four years, and now he has the chance to play in a sandbox that will get him *visibility*, a syndication hog. Nothing bad there.

No matter what has gone on the past, SFC has indicated they are willing to play ball with FS. Tom Vitale up front at comicon, his presence (rep-ing sfc) with the creative team, spoke volumes. He didn't have to do that. What if SFC would like to play in the new FS movie sandbox? What if they want more minis? What if they are receptive to a potential spin-off that would presumeably star Ben? This is just business, gang. THEY know it. They can live with it, aren't put-off by it in the least.

For Ben to be on SG, pulling in new and old audiences, making connections and realigning himself in any way possible with the new owners of SFC (can we say Universal Studios?)...I can't see where that is a bad thing for anyone involved--least of all the future of FarScape. Have to ask myself, how much easier would it be to sell a FS spin-off series to SFC if the lead was an actor who had *and was* pulling the series cart for them in a successful way? The writers have said they would like to do something totally surprising, coming from a completely different direction. Maybe this works into that. Maybe it doesn't.

We just don't know. :blindfold



JMHO.

[justanotherFSlvr]

(Warning...Twichie rant coming)


And a good rant it was.

I think we sometimes identify so closely with the show, we forget those involved have a life to live outside of Farscape. No actor can pass on steady work to hold out for something that may or may not happen in the future. I can't believe the concept of "betray" even enters into this thread.

That said, I can actually see only good things for Farscape in this. As so many have pointed out, the exposure BB, and in turn Farscape, will get from this at a time when FS is in syndication is extremely valuable. If a Farscape film comes along, BB will indeed have time between seasons of Stargate. Also, Stargate cannot go on forever--television series rarely go beyond ten seasons--so perhaps SG has a couple left. If another FS series comes along, it would probably be late '05 or sometime in '06 before it got underway, even if Ben was not doing Stargate. And because of Stargate's age, I doubt if Ben even has a contract that exceeds two years--they may even be going year by year at this point.

For those who don't like this move because they're holding a grudge against either Skiffy or Stargate, well--a grudge was a poor argument when there was opposition to PKW airing on SciFi, and it's even a poorer argument now. It's time to broaden some horizons and look beyond such trivial matters: We won. Let's celebrate it graciously.

(Edited for spelling & punctuation.)

[Lost Like Me]

I'm really saddened by all the negativity. I only pray that Ben isn't reading any of this stuff cause I'm sure he'd be hurt by the "betrayal" stuff.

I always thought the goal of the campaign was to Scape as many people as possible. Maybe that changed. I must have missed that thread. So we shouldn't be happy about possibly Scaping loads of people who are already fans of the genre. Okay. :shrug:

By the way, Twich, you rock!

[Aurelie]

And really, this makes all the Michael Shanks jokes at Burbank even funnier...

Caitlin

OOO... What jokes, can you share? ;)

And about BB joining SG1's cast, it's... I don't know, weird. But our BB's got a job, so let's be happy for him and for us! And I do like SG1. :)

[Digger]

Sadly, unless there is a sharp turnaround, a lot of people are going to view the shift to SG1 as the death knell for the campaign.Wow. I thought we were supposed to be smarter than that. And really, what's Ben supposed to do? Sit on his ass for as much as a year while Brian gets the funding together for a movie? Guh. Just think. Ben will now start going to cons both for FS and for Stargate. All those new fans just waiting to be made, and made into scapers. His taking a role on Stargate bothers me less and less since I first heard about it yesterday. My only concern is that he not get typecast as only a sci-fi actor. I want to see him (and Claud, and Gigi, and Wayne, and Anth, and Lani) in all kinds of roles. Even the dreaded sitcom. I think Ben and Claudia in particular would rock in a well written comedy. As would Anth.

[ukscapee]

Lost like me, i agree with you. surely we want to see Ben working. i don't care where he does it, at least we'll see him. Stargate has never interested me but i WILL watch it for ben. that will raise the ratings, which means Ben has pulling power which means he will get better work. After all he's not in the show bis just for the love of Farscape. There is no betrayal. there is no letting down :rolleyes: . so everyone should rally behind him and support Ben and crew in whatever they choose to do. :box:

arta

[Bandana Girl]

The more I think about it the more positive I get. But I can also see how people will initially think of it as something else. Just take some time to think it over.
For those of you who weren't there in the begining, there was noooooooooooo direction except for writing letters, Friday 2 do lists, and Tiriel's bouncies. It only grew after skiffy tried to ignore us. It grew into sending bras, writing advertisers (they didn't see that coming :ewink: ), and then it just snowballed from there. But for the first year I tell ya, we were flying blind. Everyone including several actors of the show said Farscape wasn't coming back, but it did. Whether you watch SG1 or not, this is a good thing. Like Twich said, they thought we would go away in two weeks. Now they are casting their flagship show (I think) to attract us. That is basically a 180 degree change in attitude by Skiffy.

Everyone read in red what's in my sig :D

Edit to fix spelling.

[Delaron]

I for one liked farscape not so much for its sci-fi, but for its characters, and how they were all drawn. The Character of John seemed so much like a Ben Browder able to do all those things hes always wanted to do or say, and therefore it came out as natural. I have only seen (in my view) a few 'natural' actors who don't seem to need to act, but just be themselves. As a basis of comparison for my 'natural' I nominate Michael J Fox.

I am happy to see new blood on the aging sg-1, I watched it on showtime and liked the show. I think it has its place in shows, not the same as farscape, not trying to be, and trying to do its own thing. It was more technical 'present' day science fiction, as apposed to farscapes minnow in large pond transplant type of deal. Each has its own world to inhabit.

I think the success of Ben on SG-1 is in how his character gets to be played. If hes allowed creatively to be himself, or if hes given a role that he can't get into... The entire show of farscape allowed his character to work well, very well. SG-1 on the other hand doesn't have the same feel as farscape for that type of character. As an example, the running hallway scenes that are always prevelant, versus the static shot that SG-1 usually employs, stay in scene, dont do much running around with camera following you. Sure there is much action, but it always seems to be shot in the same area, no real running around, no natural action, just cut scenes.

What does this all mean for ben getting on sg-1? I think mainly if hes allowed his own type of character, the type of character that hes used to playing in farscape, melded into a SG-1 world (more in line with a wacky RDA character, but more free wheeling) it would work well. the SG-1 characters don't seem very animated emotionally. They all seem technically proficient in every aspect they deal with, but emotionally, the characters don't go up or down. its a very even keel show to me.

I personally have not seen Ben in much other than farscape, but I love farscape, and his character in farscape, so naturally I like Ben in what I have seen. I haven't seen his other work so can't comment on his range of character abilities. But I will enjoy watching his new work in SG-1, even if I have to tape it to play it later.

Now, if claudia could get into atlantis as a re-occurring roll, instead of both on one show, that might work...although atlantis seems like a wicked retread of the same tired storyline with new faces, and I don't think its as good *sigh*, but I like watching SCI-FI of all types, and will even watch atlantis...

Course scifi just pooched it even further with a pretty bad EARTHSEA, so go figure on how they intend to grow thier channel when the author even says it was quite bad and so off the book its not funny.

GO ben, heres to something working out anyway

[Delaron]

As a side note, while it may seem a rippoff of farscape as characters go, I think the happy havoc caused by lets say a senior officer transplanted into SG-1 command structure with RDA wanting less and less shows under his belt...with a John Chriton style commander from a farscape universe, telling the stoic, staid SG-1 Team how its gonna be, and have them look at him blankly thinking who the heck is this wacko? and then start talking about it in monotone after hes gone. Then having him eavesdrop on one of those conversations and burst in laughing, and creating more merry mischief with whatever he would do...I can see the potential to stir the hornets nest up quite nicely. But alas, it would be wrong on a few levels. *sigh* but it would be fun to dream eh...

[Prospero]

Well, I have this mixed feelings about this "regular cast"-thing too.
Of course I love to see Ben on the screen - hey, I watched one ep of CSI:Miami and some eps of this crappy fantasyshow "Beastmaster" plus "Pitch Black" because I'm interested in the actors and their work.
But I don't think I'll watch one single episode of SG-1, sorry, Ben. There are frontiers I don't want to cross and SG-1 is not my kind of show. But perhaps there is a chance to see more of Ben on conventions and that kind of stuff. (Even here in Germany. *hinthint*)
Ad Astra

[Devnull]

To all the whiners I say again to you:

Ben needs a job

Farscape's likely future has been said to be a movie.
If they are working on a movie, they will not even start shooting likely until after that season of stargate is done. It takes forever to get a script and then get things rolling into place.

This will get Farscape more fans, when all the stargate folks look up ben on imdb, they will check out Farscape.

[harveywhispers]

Everyone...

Honestly, I suck.

Yesterday, I made the mistake of letting my lousy couple of weeks shade my response. I also allowed my own uncertainty, regarding direction/where to focus direction, get the better of me. I was voicing some honest concerns, which even people here had written to me about. The sharp turnaround I spoke of was just a renewall of what we are all about (not the actors dropping employment), as new people sometimes wonder which direction we are going in. I thought that I was doing the right thing. I apologize for pissing anyone off.

Again..I suck.

[AnnieBW]

{{{harveywhispers}}} That's okay. We love you anyway!

[AnnieBW]

I agree. Ben needs a job. Was this move in the works during the Burbank con? Possibly, but I doubt that Ben could have said anything - even if he wasn't superstitious and didn't want to jinx things. Perhaps the whole "Green Lantern" rumor was a trial balloon to see how fans would react to Ben in a different role? Perhaps the SG-1 people talked to him as far back as Comic-Con? We'll never know.

All I can say is that, in the entertainment industry, ANY paycheck is a good one. I'm ecstatic for Ben, and I'm happy that he's going to come in and breathe some new life into the very tired Stargate franchise. From what I understand from hearing Chris Judge at a convention, the working environment there is much more laid-back. I'm hoping that, once he gets into the swing of things up there, they'll let him write an episode or two. Chris Judge has written a couple, and they've been great. That's probably another reason why Ben wanted to join that series - the freedom to write episodes.

[writersbloc]

Course scifi just pooched it even further with a pretty bad EARTHSEA,

Feh. So true, Delaron. Even my husband (not really a sf hound) noticed. It was...bad. Too bad. I'm sure they dropped a bundle on it. Or, maybe some liked it. :dunno: I wanted to....

[StephX]

I'm pretty happy about this news. I'm not a rabid SG-1 fan or anything. I catch it from time to time (mostly reruns). Yeah, it can be a bit predictable. Yeah, it could be better.

I think letting Ben have his hands on this show could do a lot to improve it. I'm going to give this a chance. The man is such a great talent. Even if they don't give him a ep. to write his presence has to help SG-1 in some positive way.

[Pengu]

Well, Ben will make SG better - fact
Ben deserves this - fact
More exporsure for Ben - fact

BUT
What it still also will do is
Any Farscape production will be pushed far into the future -fact
The is no denying it. And for me hope has been a key issue.
Hope that farscape will be given a new chance, that it will continue in one way or another.
So it is positive news in all kind of ways, but in one way which I care about...
The near future for farscape is more or less known now, at least with Ben.
No use believing anything else.

Oh, one other bad thing... I'll have to get more into SG ;)

[Red]

Any Farscape production will be pushed far into the future -fact
That is most emphatically not a fact.

There is no Farscape project in pre-production right now. Pretty much the only way that Ben's Stargate filming would interfere with any future Farscape projects would be if there was a Farscape project in pre-production, or the later stages of money deal making. And there is no current Farscape project at such a stage.

Stargate films during the late spring to early fall. There is virtually no way that a Farscape movie will be ready to film by this summer. If they're in early pre-production by this summer, we'll be lucky. That has absolutely zero to do with Ben's appearance in Stargate, and everything to do with timing, script writing, fund gathering, and the demands of pre-production.

[The Keeper]

This is just my opinion, but I reckon if there was going to be anyone, anyone at all to replace one of the original SG1 team members, I couldn't of picked anyone better for the job than our Mr Browder.

Ok so maybe I'm a bit biased because I love both shows, but seriously, when Corin Nemic's character replaced Daniel Jackson on SG1 for like a season, I have to say, I wasn't impressed, but now knowing that Ben is going to come onto the show, possibly replacing or becoming a regular cast member, I have no problem with it. Bring it on, I say.

And good on Ben for getting more work. Spread the Scaper love!

[Frell-n-Grok]

I'm hoping that, once he gets into the swing of things up there, they'll let him write an episode or two. That's probably another reason why Ben wanted to join that series - the freedom to write episodes.

I was thinking the same thing. It would be very cool for Ben to be able to write more.

[Shipscat]

Don't beat yourself up, Hw. There's nothing wrong with expressing uncertainty and it doesn't mean you suck!

When you've been busy climbing up hill for a long time it's hard to take on anything that looks like it might add to the burden or make the climb steeper.

Give yourself a break!

[Adam L Garcia]

That is most emphatically not a fact.

...

That has absolutely zero to do with Ben's appearance in Stargate, and everything to do with timing, script writing, fund gathering, and the demands of pre-production.

I'm going to back Red up on this. As a filmmaker my self let me just say that it sometimes takes years for a film to get made.

Example: My current film has been in preproduction since September, and wont film until April, the earliest. The first draft of the script was written over TWO years ago.

Take into account films like Star Wars, it takes 3 years for one film to come out. From conception screen it takes alot to make a movie, ESPECIALLY a sci-fi action film. They can easily schedule production in between production of SG-1. Michael Chiklis filmed Fantastic Four this summer and still doing the Shield.

If anything this will SUBSTANTIALLY increase our chance of a Farscape movie. Why? Because when SG-1 ratings shoot up when Ben joins the show, people in charge will take notice and see that our boy brings audiences, then they think: hmmm... Henson wants him to be in that Farscape movie, maybe we should make that happen....

So there you go. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop turning this into a negative. While SG-1 isn't the greatest scifi show ever, it is a chance for Ben and for Farscape.

Adam

[harveywhispers]

I'm going to back Red up on this. As a filmmaker my self let me just say that it sometimes takes years for a film to get made.

Example: My current film has been in preproduction since September, and wont film until April, the earliest. The first draft of the script was written over TWO years ago.

Take into account films like Star Wars, it takes 3 years for one film to come out. From conception screen it takes alot to make a movie, ESPECIALLY a sci-fi action film. They can easily schedule production in between production of SG-1. Michael Chiklis filmed Fantastic Four this summer and still doing the Shield.



When I had made my worst case whine, as to it taking four years to see something on the big screen, it was the 3(ish) years between Star Wars films I was using for my guessing guide. I knew that there was a real life version of what I had said, but feeling like dren had me reaching for that example.

[JrMissToughChick]

I'm not gonna comment other than the fact that I know and I read the thread.

[UTChick]

I think it's a good move for us. Obviously, Ben thinks so. It's his opinion that counts. From Farscape's perspective, it'll increase the viewer ship, definetly. It will certainly help increase Ben's name recognition - that's great for Ben & Farscape.

Sg-1 isn't Farscape - by a long shot, but's it's a nice story wrapped in a pretty package. I enjoy it - although I haven't watched it for a season or two - but like the soaps, I 'm sure I'll pick it up & not have to question much (that's difference between Farscape & SG-1). I do own most of SG-1's dvds.

I just think the name recognition for Ben will really help him in other roles. He said that was an issue with him being down in Australia for 4 yrs - he was out of the loop. This will help put him back in. The more he does - is great for him & for Farscape.

Even better - You know Brian would schedule the movie around the SG-1's hiatus - so it won't interfere with movie ( we know we're getting one!!!)

Congrats to Ben & as others have said - Trust him - He's not just another pretty face, there's smarts in there, too!!!

[waltersgirl]

I just don’t want my Favorite actors to make a career changing mistake because they thought they where pleasing there fans.

how little you think of someone you speak so highly of. do you honestly believe that he would base a career choice, and the stability of his family, on what his fans would think? that is unbelievably self-absorbed. are we gonna make his mortgage payment? buy them groceries? take care of the kids' tuition? i thought not. so why don't we all let Ben worry about Ben's career choices and simply be happy that a working actor found work...and in a genre that can also help the future of a project that is dear to his heart and ours.

[jerseygirl]

I've tried and I've tried to like SG-1 but I have failed utterly. There is just a cheese factor that I can't get beyond. Maybe it's just me. THAT SAID...BB will go far in raising the level of quality and I will give it my best and then some to get into it. Hezmana - I'll watch it even if I can't stand the rest of it! I'm thrilled for Ben that he's got another regular gig. I work in theater and I'd say about 5% of all the actors I know are employed at any one time. So three cheers for him. And the thought of Ben and Claudia together on SG-1, well...all I can say is, 'nuff said!

[MrX]

I personally kind of like Stargate (it's nice when a show's characters have a sense of humor, unlike Trek) and this will probably make it even better.

[waltersgirl]

I've tried and I've tried to like SG-1 but I have failed utterly. There is just a cheese factor that I can't get beyond. Maybe it's just me. THAT SAID...BB will go far in raising the level of quality and I will give it my best and then some to get into it. Hezmana - I'll watch it even if I can't stand the rest of it! I'm thrilled for Ben that he's got another regular gig. I work in theater and I'd say about 5% of all the actors I know are employed at any one time. So three cheers for him. And the thought of Ben and Claudia together on SG-1, well...all I can say is, 'nuff said!

it's popcorn fluff, and if you don't take it too seriously it's fun.

[Kalliope]

I can hardly wait to see "Prometheus Unbound" episode with Claudia, but she's the only reason I'm going to watch it. SG-1 is on HBO here in Poland, they've just finished 6-th season, I tried to watch some eps, but after 5 minutes or so I changed the channel...

[rylett]

We've got good news for fans of Sci Fi's Stargate SG-1 and great news for fans of Farscape: TV Guide Online has learned exclusively that when SG-1 begins its ninth season, Farscape hunk Ben Browder will join the long-running series as a regular.

excellent news! i like, and watch, both shows. ben is smart. he will do well.

[Nirtia]

Hey all. You know, I just felt inclined to add my two cents after reading all the posts. And I have to say that I can't really understand a lot of your attitudes. Perhaps it's because I was a SG-1 fan before I ever fell in love with FArscape and as such I didn't have to go through the pain of losing the show (I came to Farscape, oh... 2 years ago?) and don't have the association between Stargate's success and Farscape ending that you all seem to.

As such, I find a lot of your attitudes petulant, and not at all in support of a previous comment about Sci-Fi fans being loyal and "sticking together". You all are passing rather extreme judgements on a show that most of you said yourselves you haven't watched (at all, or an entire episode). That's totally the wrong way to judge a show, and I'll prove it to you. When Farscape first came out, or at least when it first reached SPACE here in Canada, I saw about 15 minutes, probably less, of the middle of Bone to Be Wild. My immediate impression was "What the Hell is this stuff? It's terrible! The acting is like.... cardboard. It's not worth my time!" And I changed the channel or left the room. Two summers ago, after the cancellation and during the summer rerun drought I was bored and turned on Farscape cause it was the only thing on. It was Exodus from Genesis, and I had missed the opening bit. However, I watched the entire thing, then the next couple weeks watched more episodes and then I went and bought season 1 on DVD. I now have the entire series on DVD and have seen every episode at least twice (I scaped my sister) and seen my faves dozens of times. So, snap judgements on TV shows are usually really inaccurate.

Farscape and Stargate are two vastly different shows, I don't think anything will ever be as *different* and even risque as Farscape was/is. As such, there isn't anything wrong with Stargate as far as I'm concerned. It's a fairly normal sf show, with I think a good main plotline (though, I haven't seen much of the seventh and eigth season cause after Sg-1 changed to MGM the airing got all messed up in Canada) and good actors - if you doubt that, like someone said earlier, watch Lifeboat and Shanks's acting skills just clobber you. I hardly think it's fair to compare the two shows, they are not AT ALL alike.

Having said all this, we should be overjoyed that Ben has work and not lambast his decision to be EMPLOYED! Our opinions are insignificant. It's his life and his career. Finally, I'd just like to ask... does Skiffy have any stake in Sg-1? Does it contribute $ to the production? Do they have power in deciding the coming and goings of actors? If not, I don't see how you all can say it's a ploy by SKiffy to attract Scapers if they have no say in who comes on the show - they're simply the channel that airs it.

Now, I think that's everything. I'll finish by saying these were my observations and experiences and I don't mean to offend anyone. I'd watch BEN on SKiffy if I got the channel.

SBZ

Well said SBZ. They are two horses of a a different color FS and SG1. I enjoy both immensly. Why not? And yes yes yes Michael Shanks' performance in Lifeboat is astounding. Ben's performance in daedalus (forgive I don't remember the whole title) is dead on brilliant. Looking forward to seeing all my favorite actors on the same show. Its a cornicopia LOL


Nirtia

[Adam L Garcia]

Can someone explain to me why some people are upset by this?

[JrMissToughChick]

Can someone explain to me why some people are upset by this?
the only real reasons i was upset (not as bad as some but I do have a bad feeling anyway) were the fact that John Crichton is like THE space hero... Ben will no doubt not be playing the lead charcter with the 8 years the rest of the cast have been on. It's also another Scifi show so he'll be playing another space hero (I don't care what you say he so should be a system lord or something) stargate is going into its 9th season... I think that's about it.

[Bargaintuan]

I think there's a good chance Ben's character will take over SG-1. It would be a great thing for the show to have someone new come in and shake things up a bit, sort of like when John Sheridan took over Babylon 5. One of the stronger aspects of Stargate SG-1 has always been the interaction between the SGC and the government. A fresh, military face, forced on the SGC from outside, would help freshen the show up a bit, especially if he were in command.