One of my best friends Just got killed in Iraq

[Owlman]

Around a dozen people from my high school graduating class have been killed, but Fred lived next door to me and was like a little brother. He was the only person ever to make me fall over with laughter. He had a week left before comming home, and was about to get married. I had planned to invite him and his wife to be to my apartment warming party.

He was killed in the helicopter crash that has been in the news. He saw a lot of combat and had survived Fallijua after several near misses. Why a short timer was out in combat patrol is beyond me.

Semper Fi and rest in peace brother, you sure as hell will be missed.

Got kinda drunk in his honor tonight, but I will get shit faced tomorrow, when me and all his friends get together.

I can't believe how fucked up this is. What makes it worse is that his step brother is dealing drugs out of his house!

The woman I love may have to go soon, and it makes it even worse

Anyone else lose someone close to them in the war?

Note to mods, this is not a political thread!

[StephX]

:(
Sorry to hear about your friend, Owlman.

[Judith]

I'm so sorry to hear about your friend.

[waltersgirl]

If you want to ban it, then honestly, fuck you.
i am, very deeply and sincerly, sorry that you've lost a friend. that comment however? right back at ya.

[Mazinkaiser]

:hugz: :hugz:

[scrape_medic]

I am sorry as well owlman......that is screwed......seems the good do die young

[Owlman]

i am, very deeply and sincerly, sorry that you've lost a friend. that comment however? right back at ya.

Appreciate it ;)

[janey_13]

:( :hug: :cry2:

[La Bomba]

Sorry to hear of the loss of your friend, Owlman.:(

[waltersgirl]

Appreciate it ;)

appreciate what? that i'm well and truly sorry that your friend died, or that i refused to let you take a pot shot at us for no reason?

[harveywhispers]

[Edited to remove request]

To all of the military families...

You are in the thoughts of the extended hw family.

[Owlman]

appreciate what? that i'm well and truly sorry that your friend died, or that i refused to let you take a pot shot at us for no reason?

I appreciate your support. Thank you.

[waltersgirl]

Crap...Can't we just stop fighting about this trivial shit?

To all of the military families...

You are in the thoughts of the extended hw family.

so if i told you to fuck off, completely from left field, you'd be cool with that?

[Nicola]

Can we just stick to the topic at hand.?

I am sorry this happened Owlman. :hug: A very hard thing to wrap your head and your heart around.

[La Bomba]

so if i told you to fuck off, completely from left field, you'd be cool with that?
C'mon. Yes, it was uncalled for, and you had your say. He even tried to laugh it off with you by winking.
He's upset, he's distraught, and understandably so. You made your feelings about the comment clear. Let it go.

[StarsGoBlue]

Look, guys. It's difficult when someone's suffered the loss of a loved one, and emotions run high.

But if someone's going to post about it, and wants to make sure it's not going to be a problem because of where it happened or what the circumstances were, then a mod is only a PM away. Ask before posting, avoid the nastiness and disrespect. Simple enough.

Owlman, I have two cousins in the army and a best friend who served in the Air Force. I'm very sorry for the loss of your close friend.

[blue]

I'm so sorry, Owlman.


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[ctheokas]

Sorry to hear about your loss, Owlman.

[Mike0812]

Sorry about your loss man :(

[Lord Loser]

Damn. Sorry to hear it. Remember the good times you had together, the rest isn't worth remembering. :beergood:

[StarsGoBlue]

[edited to remove quote]

And now I would like to request that if there is a problem with moderation, take it to PM and let Owlman have his thread. Thank you.

[harveywhispers]

[Edited to remove my attempt at preaching]

Now...

Back to Owlman's thread.

[Owlman]

Part of the reason for this post is for anyone who has lost someone (or has someone close over there) to have their say, in a non-political way. Kind of a place to pay tribute to our lost brothers and sisters. As a person with not much real family left alive, my "adopted" family is very important to me.

[Jul]

My remark was meant for all of us.

As a board, we all seem to have lost the ability to show each other respect. Telling someone to fuck off just isn't cool. It also isn't cool to have mods writing that they reserve the right to snark on people who don't share their opinion. I miss the mutual respect, and I think the lack of it is doing a hell of a lot of damage.

I fully admit that I have not shown a heck of a lot of respect lately. I am really going to try to fix that in the coming weeks/months.

*I don't remember the exact thread where a mod told another Scaper that they would snark, but it happened in the SG1 news stuff.*

Now...

Back to Owlman's thread.

hw, feel free to take your feelings about our mod to pm if you have a problem with it.

Owlman, I am truly sorry for your loss. My prayers are with you, your friend, and their family.

Now, I would appreciate it if you would remove the "fuck you" note to us in your original thread, as we've allowed you your spot to mourn, and would have allowed it without the curse in our direction. I'm going to chock your completely inapprorpiate comment up to being wasted and upset - and it's not a trivial matter. If he were wondering, he could have done what everybody else has done, pm and ask, as Stars has already mentioned, seeing as he's already posted a duplicate thread of this over at Kansas.

[Owlman]

Alright, its removed.

[Pip_The_Great]

I'm sorry for your loss.

[divinedaydreams]

Sorry Owlman. Please take it easy and be sure to take a taxi tomorrow or stay where you all are meeting up. I'll light a candle for your friend.

I know one of the scariest times in my life was when my husband was over there during the beginning of the war. I had many sleepless nights. He came home and doesn't talk much about it. I only get snips here and there about being shot at and the conditions. I also have a brother who keeps requesting to go over again and again. He was home for a while for training but could be there now. We don't get a lot of news on his movements if any.

[aeryn]

Very sorry for your loss, Owlman. :hug:

[BillFrugge]

My deepest sympathies.

[stellar]

I'm sorry too Owlman.

[zahncrelnik]

Condolences on the loss of your friend, Owlman :hug:.


I would like to say "THANK YOU!" to all of our soldiers:helmet:. Thank you for caring
enough about democracy :us: and the world to stand up and fight for those
beliefs. Your efforts are appreciated! Thank you. :hugz:

[who45]

Sorry for the loss of your friend Owlman.

[NYPinTA]

Wow. So so sorry Owlman. :( :hugz:

[mgraylorn]

Its hard to lose someone to the stupidity of war (any war), especially when that person has survived almost to the point of coming home.

But, keep in mind that your friend thought he was doing something important and gave his life for something he believed in. You have to respect his decision, even if you don't believe in it (and I have no idea whether you do or don't, nor is this a request for you to answer that question).

So honor your friend's memory for the sort of person he was, and remember the positive impact he made on your life.

[Clarsax]

Wow, that's awful. I'm so sorry. :hug:

[Owlman]

Thanks for all the posts.

[BaseLine]

I'm very sorry for your loss.

[fermicat]

I am so sorry to hear that you lost a good friend.

[JadeScape]

I am so sorry for your loss Owlman.....:hug:

[jespere]

Owlman, I'm sorry you lost such a close friend, as well as so many of your classmates. I'll light a candle, too.

[Johnsgirl727]

Owlman, my deepest heartfelt sympathy for your loss.:hug:

[grinner]

:beer:

Drink a few, remember the good times... and always keep him in your heart.

[DRD2001]

Owlman, I was so sorry to see this post. I know you've talked often about your close friends, especially some of those in the military. I haven't lost anyone myself during this conflict, but my uncle is there, currently helping to train police forces. I worry a lot and hope for the best. Drink to the memory of your friend, and don't be afraid to let yourself grieve. :hug:

[Antrobus]

So very sorry! :(

[Col.Batguano]

Hey Owlman,
sorry for your loss,
to have had such a friend who would do such a job and make such a sacrifice, has got to be something special in your life.
to say thank you to your friend would be a gross absurdity and insulting gesture.
so in a clumsy attempt to convey gratitude and condolence, all I can say is...
Semper Fi, and I have got to believe that God has a special place close to him for such brave hearts.

[Col. Kathryn O'Neill]

:hug: my dear owlman, remember the good times you had with your friend... allow yourself to greive for his loss, my heart and prayers go out to all who have lost someone in the war :)

[Owlman]

We laid him to rest today. Really great ceremony. Good rememberance.

I had this song stuck in my head during the services, especially one line:

pantera - cemetery gates

Reverend, reverend
Is this some conspiracy
Crucified for no sinsAn image beneath me
Lost within my plans for lifeIt all seems so unreal
I'm a man couldn't half feel this worldLeft in my misery

The reverend he turned to me
Without a tear in his eyes
It's nothing new for him to see
I didn't ask him why
I will remember
The love our souls had
Sworn to make
Now I watch the falling rain
All my mind can see
Now is your (face)

Well I guessYou took my youth
I gave it all awayLike the birth of aNew-found joy
This love would end in rage
And when she died
I couldn't cry
The pride within my soul
You left me incomplete
All alone as the
Memories now unfold.

Believe the word
I will unlock my door
And pass the
Cemetery gates

Sometimes when I'm alone
I wonder aloud
If you're watching over me
Some place far abound
I must reverse my life
I can't live in the past
Then set my soul free
Belong to me at last
Through all those
Complex years
I thought I was alone
I didn't care to look around
And make this world my own
And when she died
I should've cried and spared myself some pain
You left me incomplete
All alone as the memories still remain

The way we were
The chance to save my soul
And my concern is now in vain
Believe the word
I will unlock my door
And pass the cemetery gates

The way we were
The chance to save my soul
And my concern is now in vain
Believe the word
I will unlock my door
And pass the cemetery gates
Gates
Gates

[StarsGoBlue]

:hug:

[harveywhispers]

:hug:

[kymom5613]

Owlman, I'm praying for you and the rest of his family - I have a cousin over there as well, and I worry about him every day. I was in the Army from 83-85 and there weren't any conflicts going on then (I thank God!), but knew well & good that the possibility was always there. Semper Fi to your "brother", and I'll light a couple of candles as well, one for him, one for you.
sending hugs as well,
Ginnie

[BrowderChick]

:hug: