Be careful when u go get pizza

[Ka D'Argo]

Watch this clip it made my jaw drop. and the fact that everyone jsut watched pissed me off.


http://www.mjmorningshow.com/cc-common/feeds/view.php?feed_id=263&feed=/mainfeed.html&instance=1&article_id=16035

Let me know if the link doesn't work sometimes it doesn't
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[LiLOrion]

It worked, but I didnt have my sound on.

From looking at it (without sound), it seemed like the dude who got beat down said something to the woman cause she looked like she jumped the line. Notice how fast the employee jumps back behind the counter when her man comes in.

If I saw a big person beating on a little person, I know I'm not jumping in. Maybe, if I had a cattle prod in my back pocket. And by the way he pushed his own woman off him when she was trying to pull him out, something tells me ALL the guys in the store would have had to pounce on him to get him to stop.

Some people are just ignorant and others snap too damn easily. And if you put the two of them together, you'll get a fight.

[Ka D'Argo]

what happened was she cut line and he called his fiance' on the phone and told her that he would be a little late because someone jsut cut line. so she went crazy and told her bf and he beat the snot out of him. Totally wrong. It makes me really mad. We should be aloud to talk without having to worry about getting beat up.
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[LiLOrion]

what happened was she cut line and he called his fiance' on the phone and told her that he would be a little late because someone jsut cut line.


See...he was being ignorant.
Yes, she was being ignorant as well, but he didnt have to do what he did.
I betcha he keeps his comments to himself next time. Or at least looks out the door to make sure a big hulking dude isnt standing out there waiting to pounce on him.

[Ka D'Argo]

So what your saying is that if someone does something wrong, you shouldn't say something to get the message across because if you do you shouild be beat down?!? We all have the freedom of speech not the freedom of beating someone if they say something. How was he being ignorant, out of curiosity? She had no right just walking up in the line, and he had every right to say whatever he wanted to. I hope that guy goes to jail AND i hope the victim sues that guy for as much as he can get out of him.
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[AyuRocks]

Hell, I'd probably say the same thing. People are so incredibly rude and inconsiderate and sometimes, maybe if she didn't cut in line it wouldn't had to have been said. The only outrageous action here is her boyfriend beating this man.

Couldn't get the video to work, it only played sound :shrug:

[malachilenomade]

Pull out a gun, shoot all 3 of them dead, take their pies as well as yours and the world is a better place ;)

[Ka D'Argo]

Only Played sound for you? dangit! For some reason on this one site that i get all this stuff it doesn't work for some people.

But i agree. I am so outspoken when it comes to stuff like that I'm surprised I haven't been beat down yet. That kind of stuff just irks the crap out of me.
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[AyuRocks]

I'm the exact same way. So is my mom.

I'm the type of person that if I'm walking on the right and you're walking on the far left coming towards me, but won't move, I'd run into you before I move because I'm not on the wrong side. Those people at least get the shoulder for me.

[Ka D'Argo]

that is awesome yeah don't mess with the opinionated, we bite back!
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[kymom5613]

Ayu, I'm with you, hon...I have a real problem with people who feel entitled to bend/break rules to suit themselves. Same for those folks on the highway who'll zoom down the breakdown lane so that they don't have to wait in the line to get on the exit/entrance ramps...Makes me want to move my car over to stop them!!!
I am also one of those folks that will say something - had a lady get REALLY pissy with me in Wal-Mart (customer service counter)...Two clerks, one line, lady passes up all of us (5-6 folks waiting patiently), I say, "Ma'am, we're all in one line waiting for the next available person", I get the response, "Well, you don't need to get bitchy with me!" (or words to that effect) and this was in front of my children... She kept on until I asked her to stop, as she was making a real fool of herself...I guess by the looks on the other folks' faces, she realized what an a$$ she was looking like and left the store... By golly, I was waiting for 15 minutes & wasn't about to have some snot cut the line thinking she was in SO much more of a hurry than the rest of us!
I'm glad she didn't threaten me or anything, but I'm the type that has NO problem dialing 911 and just letting them listen if necessary. Plus, the monitors were on and I think she may have known she was being taped...

[Ka D'Argo]

I've actually done the highway thing before. There was a huge traffic jam one day and there was this punk that was slowly driving down the pull over lane so he could get to the front and i saw him coming in my rear view (plus i was already in a pissy mood) so pulled my car half on the road and half on the pull over lane. He was a real jerk and was yelling at me and beeping his horn but since traffic was at a stand still i just put on my emergency flashers and sat there laughing. I felt better after that
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[AyuRocks]

Ayu, I'm with you, hon...I have a real problem with people who feel entitled to bend/break rules to suit themselves. Same for those folks on the highway who'll zoom down the breakdown lane so that they don't have to wait in the line to get on the exit/entrance ramps...Makes me want to move my car over to stop them!!!
I am also one of those folks that will say something - had a lady get REALLY pissy with me in Wal-Mart (customer service counter)...Two clerks, one line, lady passes up all of us (5-6 folks waiting patiently), I say, "Ma'am, we're all in one line waiting for the next available person", I get the response, "Well, you don't need to get bitchy with me!" (or words to that effect) and this was in front of my children... She kept on until I asked her to stop, as she was making a real fool of herself...I guess by the looks on the other folks' faces, she realized what an a$$ she was looking like and left the store... By golly, I was waiting for 15 minutes & wasn't about to have some snot cut the line thinking she was in SO much more of a hurry than the rest of us!
I'm glad she didn't threaten me or anything, but I'm the type that has NO problem dialing 911 and just letting them listen if necessary. Plus, the monitors were on and I think she may have known she was being taped...

There is this one section of highway where the far left lane ends, and there's a HUGE sign on the overpass that says it ends, as well as a couple signs on the side that indicate that as well. EVERY time I'm there and there's traffic there are people that wait to the very last second to get over so they can effectively cut in front of everyone. Once I'm up to a good point I usually make sure I'm half in the lane that's ending and the one I'm actually supposed to be in to make sure jerks don't cut through. I mean, what's so special about them that makes their time so much more important than everyone elses? And dude, like 90% of the traffic I get stuck in is due to people's inability to merge correctly.. so those people end up causing the problem a lot of the times. I don't understand drivers who let people go in front of them that pull junk like that. I certainly wouldn't let a person that just zoomed in front of a ton of cars over in front of me.

Lines seem to always confuse people. I love it when employees will say something. I was at a best buy once and they had the one line/multiple checkouts system going and there was this guy that kind of weaseled over to the right of me. He looked kind of out of it or something so I didn't bother to say anything, but when the next clerk was free he ran up to her, and I just "tsked" really loudly and gave the back of his head the death stare. Thing is he got up to the counter and the clerk told him he cut in front of me and forced the dude back in line.

Oh, and I can't even count the number of times when I was younger that people just assumed that since I was a kid I couldn't POSSIBLY be in line and like 5 people would go in front of me. I think that's what all of this stems from...

[LiLOrion]

So what your saying is that if someone does something wrong, you shouldn't say something to get the message across because if you do you shouild be beat down?!?

Saying something politely to them - yes. They could very well be oblivious to the fact they are doing something "wrong".
Calling your fiance on the phone and talking loud enough so the other person can hear - again, only if there isnt a big hulking dude outside, or you think you can "take" the person if they jump you. :)


How was he being ignorant, out of curiosity? She had no right just walking up in the line, and he had every right to say whatever he wanted to.

They were both ignorant, she moreso. But there was another way of going about what he did, he chose to be ignorant right back. And I noticed she spit in the face of the employee. I'm figuring HE might have said something to her about butting in line. So either way, whether someone would have politely said something to her, or whether they chose to be ignorant about it and call someone up on the phone and talk all loud, she probably would be flipped out anyway and the big hulking dude would have come in and kicked some butt.


I hope that guy goes to jail AND i hope the victim sues that guy for as much as he can get out of him.

Absolutely.

[LiLOrion]

I'm the type of person that if I'm walking on the right and you're walking on the far left coming towards me, but won't move, I'd run into you before I move because I'm not on the wrong side. Those people at least get the shoulder for me.


My younger sister does that.
She also has been known to say, "Hello, f*cking move your cart out of the middle of f*cking the aisle. Youre not the only one in the f*cking store today"!

She's so pleasent. :)

I LOVE when she crosses paths with an angry black woman and starts talking shit right back at them when my brother-in-law isnt with her. I keep telling her, she doesnt have "I'm married to a black man" tattooed on her forehead. :lol

[AgentSun]

holy frell!

seriously though...Scarpino (the victim) might've said things a little loud, or he might've been a little bit rude...but the problem is, all of us would've done the same thing. the woman cut in line, the least we would've done is remark on the unfairness of it. the employee even said something to her about blowing up about a relatively small incident... she spit in his face. if that isn't overreacting, i don't know what is.

the victim isn't at fault here. he might've been vaguely rude but the woman cut in line. anyone else would've made a remark. plus, he was obviously frustrated and there was a big enough line to suggest that he was probably a little frustrated before the woman cut. he called his fiancee and told her it would be a bit longer.

i am surprised the employees didn't call the police right away. they might have, i don't know. but it didn't seem like they did. maybe i missed it. i think all the people in the pizza place were just as terrified. i mean, that was a very large man.

i was at the mall once and my friend and i were in a department store, trying on clothes. we're in a smaller fitting room area with only 2 rooms. we're both occupying one each and when we come out, there's this woman with 2 kids and a stroller with a third child coming towards us. she's wedged herself into the small fitting space, waiting for one of us to come out. i have my arms full of clothes and i didn't want to whack one of the kids (the little one was probably 5 or 6) and so i was trying my hardest to get out of her way and also not hit anyone with hangers.

so i get out of her way, and when i spot something else i want to try on, my friend and i return to the fitting room. the woman (her big stroller and her kids in the little hall) tells me that my friend and i can share the other fitting room. i look at her and in my mind, i'm like "what the crap are you talking about?" cause her tone was really rude. i'm frustrated as hell cause she's taking up all the space and she's refusing to relinquish a fitting room even though she's done (her kids are apparently holding it open for her) and all i needed was to try one pair of pants on.

i walk out of the fitting room a little frustrated and yes i mumbled some things under my breath, nothing obscene, but i was a bit rude. i was venting frustration...when my friend comes out of her fitting room i tell her what the woman was doing and i walk back into the little hallway to go into her room and the woman is there, fuming at me. she snaps and she starts yelling at me, going "you don't even know me, what the hell are you saying about me?! my daughter heard everything you said, who the hell are you to say this about me?!" and all i did was stand there and stare at her snapping, thread by thread, because i complained about her to my friend.

oh and my boyfriend and i experienced a jerry springer moment today...we were sitting at lunch and for some reason, our table ended up being populated by a bunch of black people. not being racist, so please don't misconstrue what i'm saying, but black people generally do have a reputation about them. the ones at my school, with a few exceptions, are loud and rowdy and the professors do not really appreciate those qualities. so there were these girls who sat down the next table section over and one of them starts being loud about another girl down further at the table and she stands up, walks over and yells at the girl down there. she goes back to her own section and she's like "why does she keep staring at me? i'm over here eating my lunch and she keeps staring at me and saying stuff about me" and people in a 3 table radius could hear her. this was at 11:30 am, the busiest part of the day for lunch. and people 3 tables away could hear her. her friend starts going "we're nice people, right? why do they have to do that to us" and all i can think is... "if you have to reaffirm with your friends that you're a nice person, i have to really wonder about that..."

[AgentSun]

oh have you guys seen this one, from the same website?

Teacher Pulls Chair from Student Refusing to Stand Up During Pledge of Allegiance (http://www.mjmorningshow.com/cc-common/feeds/view.php?feed_id=263&feed=/mainfeed.html&instance=1&article_id=16347)

the problem i have with this is that they aren't punishing the teacher. they suspended the kid who took the video because it was a violation of constitutional rights...i think the school is being lazy and disgusting.

[LiLOrion]

...so there were these girls who sat down the next table section over and one of them starts being loud about another girl down further at the table and she stands up, walks over and yells at the girl down there. she goes back to her own section and she's like "why does she keep staring at me? i'm over here eating my lunch and she keeps staring at me and saying stuff about me" and people in a 3 table radius could hear her. this was at 11:30 am, the busiest part of the day for lunch. and people 3 tables away could hear her. her friend starts going "we're nice people, right? why do they have to do that to us" and all i can think is... "if you have to reaffirm with your friends that you're a nice person, i have to really wonder about that..."


I know what you mean. There are people who will walk a few feet away and talk LOUD instead of walking up to and addressing directly the person they are talking to/about. Granted they are talking loud enough for the person to hear them (and anyone else in a 5 mile radius for that matter). Most times that I have been witness to this phenominon, it involved black women, my younger sister (or for a REALLY fun time - both). :D

This same phenominon is usually followed by repeating the same thing over and over and over and over again, quite LOUDLY of course. Like we didnt hear you the first 20 times you said it. :lol "You dont KNOW me!" is a favorite as is "You best shut-up!"
Its quite funny if youre arent on the receiving end, or trying to shut your little sister up who has a mouth as big as the Grand Canyon, but would get her a$$ whooped in a heartbeat.

[AyuRocks]

Saying something politely to them - yes. They could very well be oblivious to the fact they are doing something "wrong".
Calling your fiance on the phone and talking loud enough so the other person can hear - again, only if there isnt a big hulking dude outside, or you think you can "take" the person if they jump you. :)

They were both ignorant, she moreso. But there was another way of going about what he did, he chose to be ignorant right back. And I noticed she spit in the face of the employee. I'm figuring HE might have said something to her about butting in line. So either way, whether someone would have politely said something to her, or whether they chose to be ignorant about it and call someone up on the phone and talk all loud, she probably would be flipped out anyway and the big hulking dude would have come in and kicked some butt.

She already showed she had no regard for him or for being considerate when she cut in front of him. I doubt that him politely pointing out her mistake would have made much of a difference. Hell, wouldn't be surprised if she'd have told her boyfriend to beat his ass if he pointed out it politely, obviously she doesn't like having her mistakes pointed out to her.

[AgentSun]

bottom line, the woman was going to snap. it didn't matter who it was, the woman would've snapped. if it not the victim, then the employee because he said something too and would have even if the victim had not.

Most times that I have been witness to this phenominon, it involved black women, my younger sister (or for a REALLY fun time - both).

at the beginning of the school year there was this spat between these two girls who were roommates. it escalated and the RA's had to step in...the poor white girl RA's intervening in a spat between two black girls. wow. that was a rumble i was trying not to giggle at.

[MadWombat]

I do security for a club in Boston and you wouldnt believe how often this actually happens. there are many girls out there that do dumb stuff or start sh*t and make their guys try and finish it like this "lady" did. Men do it on thier own as well, but it surprises me how devious and scary some females can be.

probably about one or twice a weekend I have to bring a guy to the ground because he tries to go off on some other person that his girl started with first. Its like they think they have a bodygaurd or something and can do anything they want.

For some reason my friends girlfriend feels she can do the same thing while I'm hangin around with them. Shes ussually very reserved, but when I'm around she always seems to act a little rambunctious.

Now I'm not saying all girls are like this, I'm quite sure none of the fine females here would ever do such a thing as get thier man to beat someone up for them. but until your in the trenches like I am every week, you see the supposedly "weaker" sex is pretty far from.

[LiLOrion]

Its empowering to have a big man by your side. You feel invicible. :)

You wanna start something?!
Oh yeah?!
Aaahh!
Bobby go get him for me!
Yeah, you better run!
:lol

[AgentSun]

i think it's real empowering to have a gun by your side too. but it makes people do stupid things like wave around a gun when you don't know how to use it or don't know how to keep yourself safe from it. idiots have done a lot of stupid things...thats the nature of the darwin awards.

[BrowderChick]

Well it wouldnt work for me...sound was fine but the picture kept pausing. :dunno:

[Kathleen]

I was able to watch it just fine.

It's obvious that this woman was being a complete moron. She had no respect for any of the people in line nor for the employee behind that counter that she spit at when he said something to her.

As for the guy saying something to his fiancee on the phone, he had every single right to do so. I'm a loudmouth myself. My husband shushes me all the time because I speak my mind. It pisses me off to no end for someone to do something rude in public and not say "Excuse me" or "I'm sorry". How much effort does that take.

Also, like Ashley said, what makes those people's time more valuable than ours? My big thing is when I'm in the store and someone cuts in front of you when they SEE you've been standing there waiting. I'm the first one to step up and say "Umm. EXCUSE YOU. I've been waiting. It won't break your legs to stand behind me and wait your turn, too!!" I've pissed off some people doing that, and the hubby says I'm gonna get my ass kicked one day, but I'm not going to put up with people's rude, obnoxious behavior and be treated like I owe them something or that their time is more important than mine.

:shrug: Just my $.02 worth.

[Pip_The_Great]

wow, I don't know where you all are from... but around here, people are a little more laid back. I've only been in a semi-confrontation once, and it involved a drunk girl after a basketball game (such is life). I had gone to the grocery store with a friend of mine at about midnight. As I pulled into a spot, I realized that I had parked a little close, but since two girls were sitting in the car next to me, I felt like an idiot pulling back out and parking again. It was a tight squeeze and I tried as hard as I could to not have my door hit their car, but I inevitably ended up barely tapping it with my door. The girl had her window rolled down, and as soon as I got out, she's all like 'you hit my car.' I'd like to point out that her car was a p.o.s. and even if I had nailed her door you wouldn't have noticed, but trying to be diplomatic, I said 'well what do you want to do about it?’ meaning I would even go as far as to exchange insurance if she wanted to make that big of a deal about it. Instead, she took it as a threat and replied 'kick your ass...' However, at that time, she must have realized that she wasn't very well matched for the two of us, (I'm 5'11" and not exactly the skinniest girl you've ever seen) and never ended up doing anything. However, the whole time we were in the grocery store, I was praying that they'd be gone when we came out, and that I wouldn't find that my car had been keyed. Thankfully, they where, and my car was in the same condition it had been when I left it.

[malachilenomade]

oh have you guys seen this one, from the same website?

Teacher Pulls Chair from Student Refusing to Stand Up During Pledge of Allegiance (http://www.mjmorningshow.com/cc-common/feeds/view.php?feed_id=263&feed=/mainfeed.html&instance=1&article_id=16347)

the problem i have with this is that they aren't punishing the teacher. they suspended the kid who took the video because it was a violation of constitutional rights...i think the school is being lazy and disgusting.


I saw this on the news either last night or the night before and yeah... the school is going to enact a policy of REVIEWING all video taken by students at the school and is considering banning the units altogether, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO action is taken against the teacher, who was in blatant violation, caught on tape being in violation.... he gets off with nothing and the students get screwed. I didn't hear anything about violation of constitutional rights and from what the kids say, that teacher has anger issues to begin with. From what I saw of the tape on the news, I'm more inclined to listen to the students than some teacher with a power problem.

And the school board needs to be axed if they don't take issue with what the teacher did. Sure, teachers have to be tough on kids, but this eema was just being beligerant.

[Ka D'Argo]

I saw this on the news either last night or the night before and yeah... the school is going to enact a policy of REVIEWING all video taken by students at the school and is considering banning the units altogether, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO action is taken against the teacher, who was in blatant violation, caught on tape being in violation.... he gets off with nothing and the students get screwed. I didn't hear anything about violation of constitutional rights and from what the kids say, that teacher has anger issues to begin with. From what I saw of the tape on the news, I'm more inclined to listen to the students than some teacher with a power problem.

And the school board needs to be axed if they don't take issue with what the teacher did. Sure, teachers have to be tough on kids, but this eema was just being beligerant.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one. We don't know the extenuating circumstances. Al we have is a crappy video recording of what happened. He didn't touch one of the children, he pulled a chair out from one of them, but not in a violent way. The kid was not hurt but it did make him rise up. Now some people think that the kid was in the right because he shouldn't have had to stand because its his "right". But show some respect for our national anthem. But that is neither here nor there. The teacher did raise his voice to an almost scary level, but i have had teachers in the past that have done that, they have to control the kids they are in charge of. if these kids parents aren't able to teach their kids some respect than i say good for the teacher. I'm only 19 years old and it makes ME mad. the teacher did nothing that requires discipline, maybe a talking to about his voice, but the kids were disrespectful and there is something wrong with that. And i'm not an older adult that doesn't remember what it was like being in high school. I was one of those smart mouth punks that gave the teacher a lot of trouble. And honestly i was a jerk and i don't understand anymore why i gave them such a hard time. So on this one i think that it was good that the teacher didn't get in trouble.
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[LiLOrion]

Teachers when I was in school, I graduated in 92, were more or less allowed to be a bit "physical" for lack of a better word.

When I was in first grade, my teacher used to tape mouths shut (but the tape wasnt all that strong), smack you on the head or hands with her pen (that hurt like crap by the way), put us under her desk (it was dark under there), etc. **I really wasnt bad when I was in grade school, but it kinda looks that way doesnt it? :D Parents were also a bit different back then. If my mother would have been told by a teacher that I misbehaved, she would have punished first, asked questions later. Which she did a few times.

Now, everyone gets sued and parents think their children are angels. Even if you got them on video, most parents will take the: "oh, someone must have done something to cause him to act like that" rather than: "jeese, my kid has no self control. I should sit down and talk to them about that."

With regards to the flag. Throughout grade school, there were two or three kids that did not have to stand up and say the pledge nor stand for the national anthem. In my mind, it was no big deal. All they had to do was get notes from their parents. I cant remember what the reason was, but I think it was a religious one.

[malachilenomade]

Of all the schools that I've been to, I've never had a teacher go postal like that... and we've had some real jerk-offs in my classes... and I used to smart off to my Contemporary Issues teacher RELENTLESSLY (we were all convinced she's was giving it up to the football team), but she was an idiot... But NEVER had a teacher lose their marbles just because someone didn't stand for the pledge... that is going overboard, pure and simple.









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i was cleaning a dish and heard it, so i came out... what? shoes? f*** shoes! HAH! listen to this guy... shoes!!

Dane's hilarious :D

[Ka D'Argo]

but is it punishable? that is what you have to ask yourself. He did not harm anyone and it is his duty to keep those kids in line. He did nothing wrong.
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[AyuRocks]

Actually, shouldn't his duty be to teach? Not to act like their drill sargeant?

[Ka D'Argo]

sure, but have you ever tried to "teach" a class? I have seen both sides of the spectrum... the always quite, nice teachers that don't ever tell a child to stop and also the teachers that only tells kids to stop. And the one that was too much of a wuss to tell the kids to stop always got walked all over. Plus you have to wonder. what kind of class was this? was it a class meant for kids who were too much trouble to deal with so they give them to one teacher, causing him to have to be a drill instructor? because to be honest, i have never been in a class that was as bad as they were being. I don't know, these kinds of subjects are so delicate. nothing is black and white, there are things we didn't see or hear so we have to take that into consideration. But I can ask how can you teach a class when you can't get them to settle down?
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[malachilenomade]

was it a class meant for kids who were too much trouble to deal with so they give them to one teacher, causing him to have to be a drill instructor?

I have yet to see a school that does this, unless you're talking about detention, in which case they wouldn't have been playing the national anthem. Never seen a school that takes the (theoretically) bad kids and puts them in special classes.

[BrowderChick]

I'm the exact same way. So is my mom.

I'm the type of person that if I'm walking on the right and you're walking on the far left coming towards me, but won't move, I'd run into you before I move because I'm not on the wrong side. Those people at least get the shoulder for me.
So it was you at the mall that day. :nana: :lol

[LiLOrion]

I have yet to see a school that does this, unless you're talking about detention, in which case they wouldn't have been playing the national anthem. Never seen a school that takes the (theoretically) bad kids and puts them in special classes.


Down the street from my high school, they actually had a separate school for kids like that. I forget what the heck it was called. And granted, most times I walked by it seemed like the entire building was outside smoking....so I dont know how much these kids were actually learning or why they bothered putting them in a school of their own. They could have stood outside and smoked at the regular high school. :)

[BrowderChick]

I will let some people cut in front of me in line if its necessary. Like for example, a line at a restroom can be a mile long and if I see a woman with a small child thats doing the "dance" then I will let them go ahead.

I know people can be really rude and obnoxious on the road. Ive seen it but Ive also seen another view of that too. A friend of mine was on the way to the hospital and because of rush hour traffic used the turn lane to "cut" ahead. There was someone that wasnt all the way in the proper lane and they couldnt get through. That poor girl in the back seat ended up having a baby while sitting in line to get to the exit. It was nice that someone in a car nearby saw my friend get out and crawl into the back seat to help and they too got out of their car to help. We can all laugh at it now as the name they chose for the child had the initials of CAR. :) But at the time it was really scary because they couldnt get through.

There are rude people in the world and there are nice people in the world. If someone cut me off because they wanted to be a bitch about it then yeah, my mouth opens up. But if its for a valid reason and the person is cool about it then yeah go ahead. I guess I have too much patience. Ive let people ahead of me in a grocery line. I have 40 items and they have 15. Too many for the express lane and nothing major that would hold me up. Whats another 10 minutes? But I usually do this for the sweet little old lady behind me in line. Or if I see a mother with a couple of screaming kids. I know shes stressed out. Hell let her go ahead so others dont have to listen to that. :lol I guess it would take that rude person that would be the bitch while cutting to see what its like for someone to do that to them before they realize what they themselves have done.

[BrowderChick]

Where I live there is a school set aside for the really bad kids that cant be controled. But also in that school are classes for anger management and they also teach minor trades there too. It gives the kids a chance to try something to better themselves. I knwo in the school I work in there are kids that are really bad but being only an elementary school those kids are not ready for the disipline school. Im sure they will be there eventually though. But out of about 500 kids, I can say there are only about 10 that really need a firm approach. Two in particular are almost beyond hope. I feel sorry for these kids because this comes from their home life. When parents dont care, why should the kids. Ive personally handled these kids and one of them is slowly seeing that its better to just behave rather than get stuck not being able to hang with his friends. The other just doesnt care. But he will see when he moves up to the middle school where he will now be the low man on the ladder and the older kids are going to be pushing him around a bit. Maybe that will wisen him up. Maybe not. You can only do so much to help them to be better people when they grow up. But also, school rules are school rules. They are meant to be followed. If they are allowed to break these rules then the other kids will see that they can as well. Most of these kids need a mentor, not a drill sargent. Sometimes that can only make the rebel more. There are some that look for this type of disipline as well. Ive seen that they feel that its the only attention they can respond to.

[AgentSun]

I didn't hear anything about violation of constitutional rights

it was in the article that accompanied the video on the site.

i side with the kids mostly because a guy raising his voice like that and telling kids to shut up is scary and while it might cause students to be quiet, it's not the way to go about it. there are better ways of getting something accomplished. threatening detention, suspension, disrespect, something other than just pulling out someone's chair.

[Ka D'Argo]

Like the others that said it before me in Florida I know of at least two different schools that are especially for the "trouble makers". One is actually not too far from where i live.
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[Ka D'Argo]

than just pulling out someone's chair.

If you really looked at the video the kid was up by the time the chair was even in the teachers hand. teachers can't be afraid to take initiative to do his job and not always worry about the students "rights". I'm pretty sure making a kid be quiet is not violating his rights. and making him stand whether it be for a patriotic thing or anything else is not necissarily against his rights. If i were the teacher i would take all the chairs out of the room and teach my lesson with the kids standing, but i'm a jerk so thats my sick mind at work.
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[malachilenomade]

So it would be ok if the teacher brought a gun to school if the students are packing?

I just don't agree with it and that is not the way you teach... it's the way you try to force something down someone's throat. I'm dubious about the recording kid coming from a bad home because his dad is being pretty damned supportive of him in this.

[LiLOrion]

So it would be ok if the teacher brought a gun to school if the students are packing?

No, but it would be ok if the teacher brought a bulletproof vest to school if the students were packing. :lol


ETA: I just noticed you paraphrased me. How cute. :D Lets make me seem more like a stand up comic. How bout you add, "Try the veal" to the end of that. :lol

[malachilenomade]

how's that? :D

[LiLOrion]

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[AyuRocks]

I don't think the behavior of the kids on the tape in any way indicates that they were a "bad class". I just can't see a truely badass kid just walking out of the room instead of turning and slugging the teacher, it seemed like a relatively mature thing to do. Also, I think it's pretty indictive that the teacher may have been out of hand if a few students find it necessary to bring in a camera and record the teacher's behavior.

[AgentSun]

I agree with Ayu. it doesn't seem like this would be a random incident. if i saw a teacher that was out of hand and i knew the school administration either didn't know or wouldn't do anything about it, i would try and make sure that someone knew about what was going on, especially if i felt threatened.

[malachilenomade]

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