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Scaper_S
03-31-2005, 04:37 PM
LOTTERY RAPIST SET FREE

Lottery rapist Iorworth Hoare has been released from prison.

Hoare, who won £7m on a Lotto Extra draw, was jailed for life at Leeds Crown Court in 1989.


His catalogue of crimes included one rape, two attempted rapes and three indecent assaults.

The 52-year-old, formerly of Leeds, West Yorkshire, is understood to have been released on strict conditions under a life licence.

The conditions mean he will always have to meet probation requirements and could be taken back into custody if he breaches his parole terms.

Uproar at his winnings even prompted Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell to say she did not believe he should receive the money.

And it also led then-home secretary David Blunkett to say that in future prisoners would not benefit from lottery winnings, although this has not yet happened.

His victims said some of the money should be used to compensate those he had attacked.

A spokeswoman for Lottery operator Camelot said: "The only rules governing who plays the Lottery are that you have to be over 16 and you can't work for Camelot.

"It is a matter for the Home Office as to what rights prisoners have or don't have."

Link (http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13318524,00.html)

Things I note -

- There seems to be no such thing as life in prison
- When was he allowed out to buy a lottery ticket and who let him?
- Why hasn't Blunkett's promise to stop convicted criminals benefitting from huge lottery wins been actioned?

He has enough money now to buy and sell his probation officer - he'll be able to carry on where he left off - assaulting and raping with no-one to stop him. I doubt there'll be people with enough willpower to refuse his bribes. His whereabouts should be a matter of public record.

His victims should be allowed to claim against him for damages in the civil courts.

Spedoinkel
03-31-2005, 04:44 PM
Now this one is a bit sketchy. Not being from the UK my ideas will vary.
Are UK prisoner's still considered citizens? If so then why can't they partake in the lottery.
Victim's claims should be decided after the crime, not after he wins massive amounts of money. If claims are made before hand then this money should go to cover those, and court fees. But taking his money just because he now has it seems wrong to me.

Sure he can buy and sell his probation officer. He can buy all the whores he wants too. Unless that's illegal, then he goes back to jail.

grinner
03-31-2005, 05:56 PM
Heck, if OJ could buy a court... this guy appears to be about to buy a Probation Officer.

But, if he does go back to his past ways, why would you say that he has no one to stop him?

scrape_medic
03-31-2005, 06:34 PM
This guy will go on a sexual offenders list and looking at the way its gone in the past, he could have all the money in the world and he will never find peace in any town in the UK..I am guessing he might be tagged and his movements may well be restricted.

But the law is the law and if he had met the requirements of the Parole, then they have to release him. Mind having said that, that other peodophile idiot got out this week on parole, and had no remorse for his crimes for which he was convicted.

Spedoinkel
03-31-2005, 08:01 PM
Again I say something that some people don't want to here.
Just bringing up something I heard on NPR about...Huh, 8 or so years ago. Well I think it was NPR...I know it was the radio...SO, as asked I'm doing a search to see if I can verify this.

Digger
03-31-2005, 08:31 PM
Bill Clinton is on the sex offender list. I can't remeber the exact wording on the welcoming signs for the town he's living in but I think it's something like;

Welcome to [Inset name of town here]
Proud home of William Jefferson Clinton*


*Registered sex offenderProve it or delete it Spedoinkel.

StarsGoBlue
03-31-2005, 08:44 PM
and here i am again, big surprise, to remind everyone that inflammatory posting (including that which might relate to, wait for it, partisan politics) will not be tolerated.

proof or deletion--and a subsequent loss of privileges for violation of ToS, if i have to keep dealing with this dren.

Spedoinkel
03-31-2005, 09:27 PM
Hmm, can't seem to find not of Clinton being a registered sex offender on any of the state sites. Well, they don't have my father listed either.

But communites and towns are required to notify residents of a registered sex offender in the area, in accordance to Megan's Law.

Maybe the whole thing was a crack at how Clinton managed to avoid conviction for what he had done.

Whoo Irony!

AyuRocks
03-31-2005, 09:38 PM
Keep digging that hole deeper...

Spedoinkel
03-31-2005, 09:40 PM
Well, I think I've delved into the darker parts of my past enough for tonight.

Scaper_S
04-01-2005, 01:18 AM
There have been several incidents of criminals winning big on the lottery in the UK. My point about this was he was given life imprisonment. Life should mean life. The end. Not - 'can go out shopping to by lotto tickets, can get out after 15 years'. My guess is he'll have learnt enough inside about other (fraud) crimes to be able to use his millions to go undeground and no-one will know where he went.

If TPTB want to reassure the public and women that they will be safe from this man - they should inform & reassure us as to how he is being kept from harming anyone. Release from jail does not necessarily mean rehabilitated. Especially (like that paedophile King) they still think they have done nothing wrong.